Baseball rules question

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » May 17th, 2025, 1:56 am

Another baseball rules question

Saw an interesting baseball play the other day that I haven't seen before during a college game:

Bases loaded, two out and two strikes on the batter. Runner on third breaks for home in a steal attempt while the pitcher is starting the wind up. The pitch appears to be a strike, but it hits the runner as he's sliding across home plate and bounces up to the backstop. The home plate umpire makes no call (not a strike call, not a safe call)

What is the correct call?

Is it strike three ( if it was a strike)? Does the run count? Is it a dead ball, or can the other runners advance? Was it a pitch or an attempt to throw the runner stealing home out?

trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » May 17th, 2025, 2:23 pm

I have to think it's a steal and the run counts, not a dead ball

QuackAttackAggie · Post by **QuackAttackAggie** » May 17th, 2025, 2:51 pm

Yossarian wrote:Another baseball rules question

Saw an interesting baseball play the other day that I haven't seen before during a college game:

Bases loaded, two out and two strikes on the batter. Runner on third breaks for home in a steal attempt while the pitcher is starting the wind up. The pitch appears to be a strike, but it hits the runner as he's sliding across home plate and bounces up to the backstop. The home plate umpire makes no call (not a strike call, not a safe call)

What is the correct call?

Is it strike three ( if it was a strike)? Does the run count? Is it a dead ball, or can the other runners advance? Was it a pitch or an attempt to throw the runner stealing home out?

First they rule if it was a pick off attempt or a pitch. If a pitch and a strike, he's out. If that's out 3 the run didn't score. If it's out 1 or 2 he scored and it's a dead ball.

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Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » May 17th, 2025, 5:02 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
May 17th, 2025, 2:51 pm

Yossarian wrote:Another baseball rules question

Saw an interesting baseball play the other day that I haven't seen before during a college game:

Bases loaded, two out and two strikes on the batter. Runner on third breaks for home in a steal attempt while the pitcher is starting the wind up. The pitch appears to be a strike, but it hits the runner as he's sliding across home plate and bounces up to the backstop. The home plate umpire makes no call (not a strike call, not a safe call)

What is the correct call?

Is it strike three ( if it was a strike)? Does the run count? Is it a dead ball, or can the other runners advance? Was it a pitch or an attempt to throw the runner stealing home out?
First they rule if it was a pick off attempt or a pitch. If a pitch and a strike, he's out. If that's out 3 the run didn't score. If it's out 1 or 2 he scored and it's a dead ball.

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Is it a strike if the pitch doesn't cross the plate? I think by definition, a pitch has to cross the plate to be ruled a called strike.

If it's strike three (there were two outs at the time), can the batter run to first because the catcher didn't field it cleanly? If that is the case, the run would still score and the other baserunners can scan advance. Is it interference on the guy stealing home and preventing the catcher from receiving the pitch?

In the video I saw, the pitcher didn't appear to alter his delivery and to me. It looked like a pitch rather than a play on the runner stealing home. There was just no signal or rule from any umpire during the play.

QuackAttackAggie · Post by **QuackAttackAggie** » May 17th, 2025, 6:52 pm

Yossarian wrote:
QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
May 17th, 2025, 2:51 pm

Yossarian wrote:Another baseball rules question

Saw an interesting baseball play the other day that I haven't seen before during a college game:

Bases loaded, two out and two strikes on the batter. Runner on third breaks for home in a steal attempt while the pitcher is starting the wind up. The pitch appears to be a strike, but it hits the runner as he's sliding across home plate and bounces up to the backstop. The home plate umpire makes no call (not a strike call, not a safe call)

What is the correct call?

Is it strike three ( if it was a strike)? Does the run count? Is it a dead ball, or can the other runners advance? Was it a pitch or an attempt to throw the runner stealing home out?
First they rule if it was a pick off attempt or a pitch. If a pitch and a strike, he's out. If that's out 3 the run didn't score. If it's out 1 or 2 he scored and it's a dead ball.

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Is it a strike if the pitch doesn't cross the plate? I think by definition, a pitch has to cross the plate to be ruled a called strike.

If it's strike three (there were two outs at the time), can the batter run to first because the catcher didn't field it cleanly? If that is the case, the run would still score and the other baserunners can scan advance. Is it interference on the guy stealing home and preventing the catcher from receiving the pitch?

In the video I saw, the pitcher didn't appear to alter his delivery and to me. It looked like a pitch rather than a play on the runner stealing home. There was just no signal or rule from any umpire during the play.

No there's a rule specific for this situation where they judge if it would have been a strike. It's a dead ball so he'd be out.

The ump in your clip didn't know the rule and called a do over if it was the jomboy video.

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Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » May 17th, 2025, 7:09 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
May 17th, 2025, 6:52 pm

Yossarian wrote:
QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
May 17th, 2025, 2:51 pm

Yossarian wrote:Another baseball rules question

Saw an interesting baseball play the other day that I haven't seen before during a college game:

Bases loaded, two out and two strikes on the batter. Runner on third breaks for home in a steal attempt while the pitcher is starting the wind up. The pitch appears to be a strike, but it hits the runner as he's sliding across home plate and bounces up to the backstop. The home plate umpire makes no call (not a strike call, not a safe call)

What is the correct call?

Is it strike three ( if it was a strike)? Does the run count? Is it a dead ball, or can the other runners advance? Was it a pitch or an attempt to throw the runner stealing home out?
First they rule if it was a pick off attempt or a pitch. If a pitch and a strike, he's out. If that's out 3 the run didn't score. If it's out 1 or 2 he scored and it's a dead ball.

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Is it a strike if the pitch doesn't cross the plate? I think by definition, a pitch has to cross the plate to be ruled a called strike.

If it's strike three (there were two outs at the time), can the batter run to first because the catcher didn't field it cleanly? If that is the case, the run would still score and the other baserunners can scan advance. Is it interference on the guy stealing home and preventing the catcher from receiving the pitch?

In the video I saw, the pitcher didn't appear to alter his delivery and to me. It looked like a pitch rather than a play on the runner stealing home. There was just no signal or rule from any umpire during the play.
No there's a rule specific for this situation where they judge if it would have been a strike. It's a dead ball so he'd be out.

The ump in your clip didn't know the rule and called a do over if it was the jomboy video.

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Yes. I got a kick off of the "do-over" call. At game speed, something like this would really throw an umpire for a loop if he didn't know these obscure rules. I think the home plate ump got stage fight and cruise.

Coloraggie · Post by **Coloraggie** » May 19th, 2025, 10:02 am

Yossarian wrote: ↑
May 17th, 2025, 1:56 am
Another baseball rules question

Saw an interesting baseball play the other day that I haven't seen before during a college game:

Bases loaded, two out and two strikes on the batter. Runner on third breaks for home in a steal attempt while the pitcher is starting the wind up. The pitch appears to be a strike, but it hits the runner as he's sliding across home plate and bounces up to the backstop. The home plate umpire makes no call (not a strike call, not a safe call)

What is the correct call?

Is it strike three ( if it was a strike)? Does the run count? Is it a dead ball, or can the other runners advance? Was it a pitch or an attempt to throw the runner stealing home out?

I think there is two things you would need to consider:
1) Did the runner touch home plate before being hit by the ball. If he touched home plate before the ball hit him then the run counts.
2) If the runner didn't touch home plate first was he in fair or foul territory. If he was in fair territory I'd say that he is out on runners interference before the ball crosses the plate. Thus no run and the batter in the box comes up again next inning with a 0-0 count. If he is in foul territory then the run should count and the ball is in play, batter should stay there but other runners can advance.

I may be wrong.

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