Next weekend according to Jeff Goodman. I don't know if it is in Corvallis or Logan, but it will be a good test. Oregon St will be good this year and have one of the top front courts in the nation led by Tres Tinkle.

Unlike most of you, I am excited for this basketball seasos. I like this team and think they finish much higher than 8th (though the loss of our starting center hurts).

What exactly is “much higher than 8th”?...

6th?


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Top 3-4. MWC is pretty deep with likely top 100 teams this year (7 top 115 last season, including us).

We need to take care of business in OOC as a conference for once to get a chance at 3 bids, but I'm not sure who outside of Nevada has a real chance at being a top 30-40 team, maybe SDSU. Us, SDSU, Boise, UNLV, Fresno will all be top 50-100 teams so the MWC will be pretty close 1 through 6, with both CSU and Wyoming likely being top 100-120 teams as well.

MetsJetsAggies wrote:Top 3-4. MWC is pretty deep with likely top 100 teams this year (7 top 115 last season, including us).

We need to take care of business in OOC as a conference for once to get a chance at 3 bids, but I'm not sure who outside of Nevada has a real chance at being a top 30-40 team, maybe SDSU. Us, SDSU, Boise, UNLV, Fresno will all be top 50-100 teams so the MWC will be pretty close 1 through 6, with both CSU and Wyoming likely being top 100-120 teams as well.

Can you explain your optimism? I would like to share it. If this team is a top 50-100 team, that would make them an NCAA bubble
team or NIT team. I don’t see it.

bpd wrote:Next weekend according to Jeff Goodman. I don't know if it is in Corvallis or Logan, but it will be a good test. Oregon St will be good this year and have one of the top front courts in the nation led by Tres Tinkle.

Unlike most of you, I am excited for this basketball seasos. I like this team and think they finish much higher than 8th (though the loss of our starting center hurts).

The loss of our starting center is the least of our worries. Dargenton is better anyway and I can't imagine Stall being worse than Janicek.


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bpd wrote:Next weekend according to Jeff Goodman. I don't know if it is in Corvallis or Logan, but it will be a good test. Oregon St will be good this year and have one of the top front courts in the nation led by Tres Tinkle.

Unlike most of you, I am excited for this basketball seasos. I like this team and think they finish much higher than 8th (though the loss of our starting center hurts).

I agree, sick of hearing MWC is a 1 bid league forever.


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ineptimusprime wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:Top 3-4. MWC is pretty deep with likely top 100 teams this year (7 top 115 last season, including us).

We need to take care of business in OOC as a conference for once to get a chance at 3 bids, but I'm not sure who outside of Nevada has a real chance at being a top 30-40 team, maybe SDSU. Us, SDSU, Boise, UNLV, Fresno will all be top 50-100 teams so the MWC will be pretty close 1 through 6, with both CSU and Wyoming likely being top 100-120 teams as well.

Can you explain your optimism? I would like to share it. If this team is a top 50-100 team, that would make them an NCAA bubble
team or NIT team. I don’t see it.

Prob best back court in the MWC. 1-4 we are gonna be lethal and athletic with additions of Brown, Isby, Miller and Henson.

Big question will be post defense with 6'6 Brown at the 4 and us being thin at the 5 with our biggest guy being a Freshman, we MUST master a zone defense. We are going to have to score score score this year but I think we have the horses for it

IMHO, a 3 guard offense should be used this year as that is where the strength is and teams doing that with talented guards can be successful.


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Isby led us in scoring against Oregon State with 27 pts. Dargenton went 7-7 with 16 pts. If those two can be really productive. Things are looking good this year!!

I thought that was the intra-squad scrimmage and the Oregon State scrimmage is next week.

usufan5477 wrote:Isby led us in scoring against Oregon State with 27 pts. Dargenton went 7-7 with 16 pts. If those two can be really productive. Things are looking good this year!!

You have an eye into the future.


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My fault. It was the intr-squad scrimmage. Still good to see these guys playing well.

...against each other.

usufan5477 wrote:My fault. It was the intr-squad scrimmage. Still good to see these guys playing well.

I hear we lost. We suck.


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The defense was stifling........ its going to be a fun season, just hope we improve.

I hear Barnaba has a really nice shot...

aggies22 wrote:

AggieDude wrote:I hear Barnaba has a really nice shot...

He was a big get for Northwest Nazarene this off season.

Wish we would've pulled out all the stops to keep him here.

aggies22 wrote:

AggieDude wrote:

aggies22 wrote:

AggieDude wrote:I hear Barnaba has a really nice shot...

He was a big get for Northwest Nazarene this off season.

Wish we would've pulled out all the stops to keep him here.

He probably was told he had to buy his own shoes.

And here I thought we learned our lesson the first time.

AggieDude wrote:

aggies22 wrote:

AggieDude wrote:I hear Barnaba has a really nice shot...

He was a big get for Northwest Nazarene this off season.

Wish we would've pulled out all the stops to keep him here.

We'll miss his presence on the bench.

MetsJetsAggies wrote:

ineptimusprime wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:Top 3-4. MWC is pretty deep with likely top 100 teams this year (7 top 115 last season, including us).

We need to take care of business in OOC as a conference for once to get a chance at 3 bids, but I'm not sure who outside of Nevada has a real chance at being a top 30-40 team, maybe SDSU. Us, SDSU, Boise, UNLV, Fresno will all be top 50-100 teams so the MWC will be pretty close 1 through 6, with both CSU and Wyoming likely being top 100-120 teams as well.

Can you explain your optimism? I would like to share it. If this team is a top 50-100 team, that would make them an NCAA bubble
team or NIT team. I don’t see it.

Prob best back court in the MWC. 1-4 we are gonna be lethal and athletic with additions of Brown, Isby, Miller and Henson.

Big question will be post defense with 6'6 Brown at the 4 and us being thin at the 5 with our biggest guy being a Freshman, we MUST master a zone defense. We are going to have to score score score this year but I think we have the horses for it

Very solid young backcourt with a bright future. I really feel that we are 1 piece away from having a very very good team. A solid post presence like a Gary Wilkinson, Tai Wesley, etc. or anybody that can freaking just rebound a ball and put it back in would really change this team. I’m just worried that that piece might not come in enough time to utilize how great of a group of guards we have...

Aggs&Jazz12 wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:

ineptimusprime wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:Top 3-4. MWC is pretty deep with likely top 100 teams this year (7 top 115 last season, including us).

We need to take care of business in OOC as a conference for once to get a chance at 3 bids, but I'm not sure who outside of Nevada has a real chance at being a top 30-40 team, maybe SDSU. Us, SDSU, Boise, UNLV, Fresno will all be top 50-100 teams so the MWC will be pretty close 1 through 6, with both CSU and Wyoming likely being top 100-120 teams as well.

Can you explain your optimism? I would like to share it. If this team is a top 50-100 team, that would make them an NCAA bubble
team or NIT team. I don’t see it.

Prob best back court in the MWC. 1-4 we are gonna be lethal and athletic with additions of Brown, Isby, Miller and Henson.

Big question will be post defense with 6'6 Brown at the 4 and us being thin at the 5 with our biggest guy being a Freshman, we MUST master a zone defense. We are going to have to score score score this year but I think we have the horses for it

Very solid young backcourt with a bright future. I really feel that we are 1 piece away from having a very very good team. A solid post presence like a Gary Wilkinson, Tai Wesley, etc. or anybody that can freaking just rebound a ball and put it back in would really change this team. I’m just worried that that piece might not come in enough time to utilize how great of a group of guards we have...

Same. We really are 1 post player like those you mentioned from being a tournament team. Tough to put that much pressure on a freshman in Stall but he at least looks like he can hold his own at 6'9 240, offense won't be there but all we need is some tough D and rebounds. Dargenton has a chance to grab 7+ rebounds a game too but he's not a 5, and he's even kinda small for a 4.

We are gonna have to utilize our strengths to make up for our lack of size in the post, and I hope we learn to play a good zone. We looked better in zone last season too I thought

So did this game actually happen?

Teams can't talk about it

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Rules changed 2 years ago. You are allowed to give results and box score.

How did the scrimmage go?

JonnyCienPesos wrote:

usufan5477 wrote:My fault. It was the intr-squad scrimmage. Still good to see these guys playing well.

I hear we lost. We suck.


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We didn’t lose & the only one who sucks is their coach


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aggies22 wrote:

AggieDude wrote:

aggies22 wrote:

AggieDude wrote:I hear Barnaba has a really nice shot...

He was a big get for Northwest Nazarene this off season.

Wish we would've pulled out all the stops to keep him here.

He probably was told he had to buy his own shoes.

lol Barnaba was awful, he couldn’t play defense to save his life & every 3 he took was a brick. He benefited USU in no way


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MetsJetsAggies wrote:

Aggs&Jazz12 wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:

ineptimusprime wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:Top 3-4. MWC is pretty deep with likely top 100 teams this year (7 top 115 last season, including us).

We need to take care of business in OOC as a conference for once to get a chance at 3 bids, but I'm not sure who outside of Nevada has a real chance at being a top 30-40 team, maybe SDSU. Us, SDSU, Boise, UNLV, Fresno will all be top 50-100 teams so the MWC will be pretty close 1 through 6, with both CSU and Wyoming likely being top 100-120 teams as well.

Can you explain your optimism? I would like to share it. If this team is a top 50-100 team, that would make them an NCAA bubble
team or NIT team. I don’t see it.

Prob best back court in the MWC. 1-4 we are gonna be lethal and athletic with additions of Brown, Isby, Miller and Henson.

Big question will be post defense with 6'6 Brown at the 4 and us being thin at the 5 with our biggest guy being a Freshman, we MUST master a zone defense. We are going to have to score score score this year but I think we have the horses for it

Very solid young backcourt with a bright future. I really feel that we are 1 piece away from having a very very good team. A solid post presence like a Gary Wilkinson, Tai Wesley, etc. or anybody that can freaking just rebound a ball and put it back in would really change this team. I’m just worried that that piece might not come in enough time to utilize how great of a group of guards we have...

Same. We really are 1 post player like those you mentioned from being a tournament team. Tough to put that much pressure on a freshman in Stall but he at least looks like he can hold his own at 6'9 240, offense won't be there but all we need is some tough D and rebounds. Dargenton has a chance to grab 7+ rebounds a game too but he's not a 5, and he's even kinda small for a 4.

We are gonna have to utilize our strengths to make up for our lack of size in the post, and I hope we learn to play a good zone. We looked better in zone last season too I thought

We definitely need to utilize our strengths. Taylor is definitely underestimated, he’s by far the best defensive player on the team. He’s always covered up for everyone else and the only “big” who knows what help defense is, but when he’s the only one boxing out the 4 needs to rebound if he’s not gonna do anything. The teams has definitely lacked in defense the past couple years since Duryea has become coach, hopefully it’ll have improved this year. We have players that are ball hogs & play offensively well, but they lack in defense which is just as important. Stall seems slow & isn’t the best shooter, hopefully he’s able to help out the team this year down low, otherwise Taylor is going to be all alone playing defense while Stall & Dargenton get the easy buckets. We need defense down low

aggiefan35100 wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:

Aggs&Jazz12 wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:

ineptimusprime wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:Top 3-4. MWC is pretty deep with likely top 100 teams this year (7 top 115 last season, including us).

We need to take care of business in OOC as a conference for once to get a chance at 3 bids, but I'm not sure who outside of Nevada has a real chance at being a top 30-40 team, maybe SDSU. Us, SDSU, Boise, UNLV, Fresno will all be top 50-100 teams so the MWC will be pretty close 1 through 6, with both CSU and Wyoming likely being top 100-120 teams as well.

Can you explain your optimism? I would like to share it. If this team is a top 50-100 team, that would make them an NCAA bubble
team or NIT team. I don’t see it.

Prob best back court in the MWC. 1-4 we are gonna be lethal and athletic with additions of Brown, Isby, Miller and Henson.

Big question will be post defense with 6'6 Brown at the 4 and us being thin at the 5 with our biggest guy being a Freshman, we MUST master a zone defense. We are going to have to score score score this year but I think we have the horses for it

Very solid young backcourt with a bright future. I really feel that we are 1 piece away from having a very very good team. A solid post presence like a Gary Wilkinson, Tai Wesley, etc. or anybody that can freaking just rebound a ball and put it back in would really change this team. I’m just worried that that piece might not come in enough time to utilize how great of a group of guards we have...

Same. We really are 1 post player like those you mentioned from being a tournament team. Tough to put that much pressure on a freshman in Stall but he at least looks like he can hold his own at 6'9 240, offense won't be there but all we need is some tough D and rebounds. Dargenton has a chance to grab 7+ rebounds a game too but he's not a 5, and he's even kinda small for a 4.

We are gonna have to utilize our strengths to make up for our lack of size in the post, and I hope we learn to play a good zone. We looked better in zone last season too I thought

We definitely need to utilize our strengths. Taylor is definitely underestimated, he’s by far the best defensive player on the team. He’s always covered up for everyone else and the only “big” who knows what help defense is, but when he’s the only one boxing out the 4 needs to rebound if he’s not gonna do anything. The teams has definitely lacked in defense the past couple years since Duryea has become coach, hopefully it’ll have improved this year. We have players that are ball hogs & play offensively well, but they lack in defense which is just as important. Stall seems slow & isn’t the best shooter, hopefully he’s able to help out the team this year down low, otherwise Taylor is going to be all alone playing defense while Stall & Dargenton get the easy buckets. We need defense down low

Thanks Quinn


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JonnyCienPesos wrote:

aggiefan35100 wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:

Aggs&Jazz12 wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:

ineptimusprime wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:Top 3-4. MWC is pretty deep with likely top 100 teams this year (7 top 115 last season, including us).

We need to take care of business in OOC as a conference for once to get a chance at 3 bids, but I'm not sure who outside of Nevada has a real chance at being a top 30-40 team, maybe SDSU. Us, SDSU, Boise, UNLV, Fresno will all be top 50-100 teams so the MWC will be pretty close 1 through 6, with both CSU and Wyoming likely being top 100-120 teams as well.

Can you explain your optimism? I would like to share it. If this team is a top 50-100 team, that would make them an NCAA bubble
team or NIT team. I don’t see it.

Prob best back court in the MWC. 1-4 we are gonna be lethal and athletic with additions of Brown, Isby, Miller and Henson.

Big question will be post defense with 6'6 Brown at the 4 and us being thin at the 5 with our biggest guy being a Freshman, we MUST master a zone defense. We are going to have to score score score this year but I think we have the horses for it

Very solid young backcourt with a bright future. I really feel that we are 1 piece away from having a very very good team. A solid post presence like a Gary Wilkinson, Tai Wesley, etc. or anybody that can freaking just rebound a ball and put it back in would really change this team. I’m just worried that that piece might not come in enough time to utilize how great of a group of guards we have...

Same. We really are 1 post player like those you mentioned from being a tournament team. Tough to put that much pressure on a freshman in Stall but he at least looks like he can hold his own at 6'9 240, offense won't be there but all we need is some tough D and rebounds. Dargenton has a chance to grab 7+ rebounds a game too but he's not a 5, and he's even kinda small for a 4.

We are gonna have to utilize our strengths to make up for our lack of size in the post, and I hope we learn to play a good zone. We looked better in zone last season too I thought

We definitely need to utilize our strengths. Taylor is definitely underestimated, he’s by far the best defensive player on the team. He’s always covered up for everyone else and the only “big” who knows what help defense is, but when he’s the only one boxing out the 4 needs to rebound if he’s not gonna do anything. The teams has definitely lacked in defense the past couple years since Duryea has become coach, hopefully it’ll have improved this year. We have players that are ball hogs & play offensively well, but they lack in defense which is just as important. Stall seems slow & isn’t the best shooter, hopefully he’s able to help out the team this year down low, otherwise Taylor is going to be all alone playing defense while Stall & Dargenton get the easy buckets. We need defense down low

Thanks Quinn


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Yes, he Sam & Julian and Dargenton at times are great defensive players. I would like to see more offensively from Perry this year


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aggiefan35100 wrote:

JonnyCienPesos wrote:

aggiefan35100 wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:

Aggs&Jazz12 wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:

ineptimusprime wrote:

MetsJetsAggies wrote:Top 3-4. MWC is pretty deep with likely top 100 teams this year (7 top 115 last season, including us).

We need to take care of business in OOC as a conference for once to get a chance at 3 bids, but I'm not sure who outside of Nevada has a real chance at being a top 30-40 team, maybe SDSU. Us, SDSU, Boise, UNLV, Fresno will all be top 50-100 teams so the MWC will be pretty close 1 through 6, with both CSU and Wyoming likely being top 100-120 teams as well.

Can you explain your optimism? I would like to share it. If this team is a top 50-100 team, that would make them an NCAA bubble
team or NIT team. I don’t see it.

Prob best back court in the MWC. 1-4 we are gonna be lethal and athletic with additions of Brown, Isby, Miller and Henson.

Big question will be post defense with 6'6 Brown at the 4 and us being thin at the 5 with our biggest guy being a Freshman, we MUST master a zone defense. We are going to have to score score score this year but I think we have the horses for it

Very solid young backcourt with a bright future. I really feel that we are 1 piece away from having a very very good team. A solid post presence like a Gary Wilkinson, Tai Wesley, etc. or anybody that can freaking just rebound a ball and put it back in would really change this team. I’m just worried that that piece might not come in enough time to utilize how great of a group of guards we have...

Same. We really are 1 post player like those you mentioned from being a tournament team. Tough to put that much pressure on a freshman in Stall but he at least looks like he can hold his own at 6'9 240, offense won't be there but all we need is some tough D and rebounds. Dargenton has a chance to grab 7+ rebounds a game too but he's not a 5, and he's even kinda small for a 4.

We are gonna have to utilize our strengths to make up for our lack of size in the post, and I hope we learn to play a good zone. We looked better in zone last season too I thought

We definitely need to utilize our strengths. Taylor is definitely underestimated, he’s by far the best defensive player on the team. He’s always covered up for everyone else and the only “big” who knows what help defense is, but when he’s the only one boxing out the 4 needs to rebound if he’s not gonna do anything. The teams has definitely lacked in defense the past couple years since Duryea has become coach, hopefully it’ll have improved this year. We have players that are ball hogs & play offensively well, but they lack in defense which is just as important. Stall seems slow & isn’t the best shooter, hopefully he’s able to help out the team this year down low, otherwise Taylor is going to be all alone playing defense while Stall & Dargenton get the easy buckets. We need defense down low

Thanks Quinn


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Yes, he Sam & Julian and Dargenton at times are great defensive players. I would like to see more offensively from Perry this year


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according to the OSU message board, this scrimmage happened on 10/28. Any word on how it went? Apparently OSU won (no surprise there).

http://bennyshouse.freeforums.net/threa ... -scrimmage

With Duryea at the helm, my interest in USU basketball is the functional equivalent of my sexual interest in Betty White. This program is straight up flaccid.