The Coaching Carousel Thread (Updated 3/26)

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » March 19th, 2018, 12:35 pm

I don't think Mark Fox to CSU is actually going to happen due to the rumored way his contract his structured. It merely seems to be posturing.

Also regarding Penny Hardaway and Memphis. I don't know if he can coach, but what a great hire for them. Penny was a legend for Memphis and I bet he's an incredible recruiter.

Post by **aggies22** » March 19th, 2018, 1:56 pm

swishh_15 wrote: ↑
March 19th, 2018, 12:35 pm
I don't think Mark Fox to CSU is actually going to happen due to the rumored way his contract his structured. It merely seems to be posturing.

Also regarding Penny Hardaway and Memphis. I don't know if he can coach, but what a great hire for them. Penny was a legend for Memphis and I bet he's an incredible recruiter.

With only high school and AAU coaching under his belt, Memphis is taking a HUGE risk on Penny. However, the real recruiter is this guy.

VegasAggie71 · Post by **VegasAggie71** » March 19th, 2018, 2:02 pm

Charlotte is hiring UVA assistant Ron Sanchez, so another position filled.

TheAKAggie · Post by **TheAKAggie** » March 19th, 2018, 3:15 pm

swishh_15 wrote:I don't think Mark Fox to CSU is actually going to happen due to the rumored way his contract his structured. It merely seems to be posturing.

Also regarding Penny Hardaway and Memphis. I don't know if he can coach, but what a great hire for them. Penny was a legend for Memphis and I bet he's an incredible recruiter.

It’s a HUGE advantage in recruiting to have someone who is best known for having a marionette in his image voiced by Chris Rock as your coach.

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gomretat · Post by **gomretat** » March 19th, 2018, 3:24 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
March 19th, 2018, 1:56 pm

swishh_15 wrote: ↑
March 19th, 2018, 12:35 pm
I don't think Mark Fox to CSU is actually going to happen due to the rumored way his contract his structured. It merely seems to be posturing.

Also regarding Penny Hardaway and Memphis. I don't know if he can coach, but what a great hire for them. Penny was a legend for Memphis and I bet he's an incredible recruiter.
With only high school and AAU coaching under his belt, Memphis is taking a HUGE risk on Penny. However, the real recruiter is this guy.

It is a very huge risk and one that I find surprising. He must be the favorite son.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » March 19th, 2018, 4:07 pm

Penny Hardaway supposedly is going to help them land 4 and 5 star local talent which had been leaving the state. Penny coached Memphis East which has the top ranked player in the 2019 recruiting class James Wiseman as well as a few other highly ranked players. This was a move for local talent and the guys specifically in the 2019 class that Penny coached. We'll see if it works long term, but it makes sense. I like Tubby and think he is a good coach, but he is not a good recruiter. Even at a school like Kentucky, you compare the players they were getting then vs the players Calipari gets and it isn't close.

ericsil7 · Post by **ericsil7** » March 19th, 2018, 8:42 pm

I saw a few reports that he had reached out to Larry Brown to be his assistant and that Brown had shown some interest. Whether or not that leads to anything is another story

bpd · Post by **bpd** » March 19th, 2018, 8:50 pm

It’s looking more and more like CSU is going to hire Craig Smith from South Dakota. If this happens, that would be a great hire for them. Where does that leave Mark Fox? I think Utah State can find someone better.

USUaggienation · Post by **USUaggienation** » March 19th, 2018, 10:23 pm

TheAKAggie wrote: ↑
March 19th, 2018, 3:15 pm

swishh_15 wrote:I don't think Mark Fox to CSU is actually going to happen due to the rumored way his contract his structured. It merely seems to be posturing.

Also regarding Penny Hardaway and Memphis. I don't know if he can coach, but what a great hire for them. Penny was a legend for Memphis and I bet he's an incredible recruiter.
It’s a HUGE advantage in recruiting to have someone who is best known for having a marionette in his image voiced by Chris Rock as your coach.

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I thought he was best known for being voted as a starter for the All Star Game despite only playing a handful of games ... on an annual basis.

WAaggieFan · Post by **WAaggieFan** » March 20th, 2018, 5:05 pm

bluegrouse wrote:Tony Bennett might be available by morning

The voice of an angel. He’d pack the Spectrum again. He is getting up there in age though.

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bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » March 20th, 2018, 5:59 pm

Even that Tony Bennett would be better than Rice

bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » March 22nd, 2018, 6:57 am

ESPN reporting Dan Hurley will be hired by UConn leaving an open position at Rhode Island. Turned down more lucrative offer from Pitt.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » March 22nd, 2018, 11:57 am

Multiple people reporting Niko Medved to Colorado State.

Usu0505 · Post by **Usu0505** » March 22nd, 2018, 12:05 pm

Wow. Thats a name i havent seen ANYWHERE

Usu0505 · Post by **Usu0505** » March 22nd, 2018, 12:11 pm

The guy is 79 and 87 as a HC. Would you rather?
Would you rather a guy with no head coaching experience or a head coach with a losing record?

bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » March 22nd, 2018, 12:26 pm

Wow. Seems like a big risk.

VegasAggie71 · Post by **VegasAggie71** » March 22nd, 2018, 12:35 pm

bluegrouse wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 12:26 pm
Wow. Seems like a big risk.

He was an assistant under their former coach (Miles) for 6 years. I'm guessing that is big part of why they are willing to select him, but yes, I agree, it seems like a big risk.

GUS · Post by **GUS** » March 22nd, 2018, 1:29 pm

Interesting, I'm also an alum of Drake. CSU will be a big step up for him.

mcaggie1 · Post by **mcaggie1** » March 22nd, 2018, 1:37 pm

Usu0505 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 12:11 pm
The guy is 79 and 87 as a HC. Would you rather?
Would you rather a guy with no head coaching experience or a head coach with a losing record?

I would rather have a guy with winning Head Coach experience. The two "rathers" you mention are both risky.

Usu0505 · Post by **Usu0505** » March 22nd, 2018, 1:58 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 1:37 pm

Usu0505 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 12:11 pm
The guy is 79 and 87 as a HC. Would you rather?
Would you rather a guy with no head coaching experience or a head coach with a losing record?
I would rather have a guy with winning Head Coach experience. The two "rathers" you mention are both risky.

All are pretty risky. Its a crap shoot. LOCK mark fox down whatever it takes. He is the most proven at the level we are at

mcaggie1 · Post by **mcaggie1** » March 22nd, 2018, 2:35 pm

Usu0505 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 1:58 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 1:37 pm

Usu0505 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 12:11 pm
The guy is 79 and 87 as a HC. Would you rather?
Would you rather a guy with no head coaching experience or a head coach with a losing record?
I would rather have a guy with winning Head Coach experience. The two "rathers" you mention are both risky.
All are pretty risky. Its a crap shoot. LOCK mark fox down whatever it takes. He is the most proven at the level we are at

Aint gonna happen. He'll want too much money. He wanted 1.7 out of CSU. They sent him packing. Why would he come to us and ask for less?

Usu0505 · Post by **Usu0505** » March 22nd, 2018, 2:38 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 2:35 pm

Usu0505 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 1:58 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 1:37 pm

Usu0505 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 12:11 pm
The guy is 79 and 87 as a HC. Would you rather?
Would you rather a guy with no head coaching experience or a head coach with a losing record?
I would rather have a guy with winning Head Coach experience. The two "rathers" you mention are both risky.
All are pretty risky. Its a crap shoot. LOCK mark fox down whatever it takes. He is the most proven at the level we are at
Aint gonna happen. He'll want too much money. He wanted 1.7 out of CSU. They sent him packing. Why would he come to us and ask for less?

LOL then who does that leave? Peery who finished 7 in the big sky?

cval · Post by **cval** » March 22nd, 2018, 3:02 pm

Always interesting how internet rumors/speculation become facts. We don't know how the conversation with CSU went, nor do we know what has been said between He and Hartwell.

We don't know if he turned down CSU over money... That appears to be pure speculation. If that is true, it will be a short discussion, and would probably not even occur.

JonnyCienPesos · Post by **JonnyCienPesos** » March 22nd, 2018, 3:10 pm

With CSU out, Fox loses some bargaining power unless Pitt wants him. In that case, we couldn’t compete financially anyhow.

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Post by **AGinNEIowa** » March 22nd, 2018, 3:11 pm

I'm seeing a Celtics assistant is reportedly going to Evansville.

mcaggie1 · Post by **mcaggie1** » March 22nd, 2018, 3:13 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:02 pm
Always interesting how internet rumors/speculation become facts. We don't know how the conversation with CSU went, nor do we know what has been said between He and Hartwell.

We don't know if he turned down CSU over money... That appears to be pure speculation. If that is true, it will be a short discussion, and would probably not even occur.

How do you know? Just because you don't know anything doesn't mean that nobody knows anything.

cval · Post by **cval** » March 22nd, 2018, 3:20 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:13 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:02 pm
Always interesting how internet rumors/speculation become facts. We don't know how the conversation with CSU went, nor do we know what has been said between He and Hartwell.

We don't know if he turned down CSU over money... That appears to be pure speculation. If that is true, it will be a short discussion, and would probably not even occur.
How do you know? Just because you don't know anything doesn't mean that nobody knows anything.

Linky Please.... to more than just someone's speculation.

Ahbye · Post by **Ahbye** » March 22nd, 2018, 6:46 pm

Why do people just assume CSU is a better program than us? We're better in every aspect. A legendary coach quit them to come to us, we have better facilities and better fans. Only thing CSU has on us may be Fort Collins, but that's only if you like that kind of place.

mcaggie1 · Post by **mcaggie1** » March 22nd, 2018, 10:59 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:20 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:13 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:02 pm
Always interesting how internet rumors/speculation become facts. We don't know how the conversation with CSU went, nor do we know what has been said between He and Hartwell.

We don't know if he turned down CSU over money... That appears to be pure speculation. If that is true, it will be a short discussion, and would probably not even occur.
How do you know? Just because you don't know anything doesn't mean that nobody knows anything.
Linky Please.... to more than just someone's speculation.

No link, but a credible source. Not hearsay.

frankiedoeshollywood · Post by **frankiedoeshollywood** » March 22nd, 2018, 11:07 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 10:59 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:20 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:13 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:02 pm
Always interesting how internet rumors/speculation become facts. We don't know how the conversation with CSU went, nor do we know what has been said between He and Hartwell.

We don't know if he turned down CSU over money... That appears to be pure speculation. If that is true, it will be a short discussion, and would probably not even occur.
How do you know? Just because you don't know anything doesn't mean that nobody knows anything.
Linky Please.... to more than just someone's speculation.
No link, but a credible source. Not hearsay.

Do you know what hearsay means?

mcaggie1 · Post by **mcaggie1** » March 23rd, 2018, 10:11 am

frankiedoeshollywood wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 11:07 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 10:59 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:20 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:13 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:02 pm
Always interesting how internet rumors/speculation become facts. We don't know how the conversation with CSU went, nor do we know what has been said between He and Hartwell.

We don't know if he turned down CSU over money... That appears to be pure speculation. If that is true, it will be a short discussion, and would probably not even occur.
How do you know? Just because you don't know anything doesn't mean that nobody knows anything.
Linky Please.... to more than just someone's speculation.
No link, but a credible source. Not hearsay.
Do you know what hearsay means?

Of course. Information received from someone that cannot be substantiated. In other words, rumor.
Mine does not fit that definition.

Full · Post by **Full** » March 23rd, 2018, 10:20 am

Ahbye wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 6:46 pm
Why do people just assume CSU is a better program than us? We're better in every aspect. A legendary coach quit them to come to us, we have better facilities and better fans. Only thing CSU has on us may be Fort Collins, but that's only if you like that kind of place.

$$$$ They have more money. They also have some stability and Colorado does not looking down their nose at them like Utah does to USU.

BearLakeMonster · Post by **BearLakeMonster** » March 23rd, 2018, 10:26 am

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 23rd, 2018, 10:11 am

frankiedoeshollywood wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 11:07 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 10:59 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:20 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:13 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:02 pm
Always interesting how internet rumors/speculation become facts. We don't know how the conversation with CSU went, nor do we know what has been said between He and Hartwell.

We don't know if he turned down CSU over money... That appears to be pure speculation. If that is true, it will be a short discussion, and would probably not even occur.
How do you know? Just because you don't know anything doesn't mean that nobody knows anything.
Linky Please.... to more than just someone's speculation.
No link, but a credible source. Not hearsay.
Do you know what hearsay means?
Of course. Information received from someone that cannot be substantiated. In other words, rumor.
Mine does not fit that definition.

Right! It's like I know a lady who saw Old Everett's Ghost at the Lyric Theater. She saw him. That's a fact.

It only becomes hearsay when I tell the story.

frankiedoeshollywood · Post by **frankiedoeshollywood** » March 23rd, 2018, 10:32 am

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 23rd, 2018, 10:11 am

frankiedoeshollywood wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 11:07 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 10:59 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:20 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:13 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:02 pm
Always interesting how internet rumors/speculation become facts. We don't know how the conversation with CSU went, nor do we know what has been said between He and Hartwell.

We don't know if he turned down CSU over money... That appears to be pure speculation. If that is true, it will be a short discussion, and would probably not even occur.
How do you know? Just because you don't know anything doesn't mean that nobody knows anything.
Linky Please.... to more than just someone's speculation.
No link, but a credible source. Not hearsay.
Do you know what hearsay means?
Of course. Information received from someone that cannot be substantiated. In other words, rumor.
Mine does not fit that definition.

bwcrc · Post by **bwcrc** » March 23rd, 2018, 12:10 pm

frankiedoeshollywood wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 11:07 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 10:59 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:20 pm

mcaggie1 wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:13 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 22nd, 2018, 3:02 pm
Always interesting how internet rumors/speculation become facts. We don't know how the conversation with CSU went, nor do we know what has been said between He and Hartwell.

We don't know if he turned down CSU over money... That appears to be pure speculation. If that is true, it will be a short discussion, and would probably not even occur.
How do you know? Just because you don't know anything doesn't mean that nobody knows anything.
Linky Please.... to more than just someone's speculation.
No link, but a credible source. Not hearsay.
Do you know what hearsay means?

An out-of-court statement offered to prove the truth of the matter asserted.

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