SL Trib - we'll likely never see another sports article from them

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » May 14th, 2018, 6:59 pm

As they have laid off about 1/3 of their remaining staff. https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/05/14/ ... offerings/

Although I'm sure they will continue to report any salacious stories

Post by **aggies22** » May 14th, 2018, 7:48 pm

They'll just continue to run the standard issue press release that Wade Denniston writes for the Athletic Department.

dyedblue · Post by **dyedblue** » May 14th, 2018, 8:03 pm

aggies22 wrote:They'll just continue to run the standard issue press release that Wade Denniston writes for the Athletic Department.

That is the price of transparency

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utaggies · Post by **utaggies** » May 14th, 2018, 8:22 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2018, 6:59 pm
As they have laid off about 1/3 of their remaining staff. https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/05/14/ ... offerings/

Although I'm sure they will continue to report any salacious stories

So what you are saying is their coverage of USU sports will remain the same.

Post by **aggies22** » May 14th, 2018, 9:15 pm

dyedblue wrote: ↑
May 14th, 2018, 8:03 pm

aggies22 wrote:They'll just continue to run the standard issue press release that Wade Denniston writes for the Athletic Department.
That is the price of transparency

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The next time I see Wade, I'll ask him if he makes any money for newspapers running those?

Full · Post by **Full** » May 14th, 2018, 10:01 pm

ViAggie wrote:As they have laid off about 1/3 of their remaining staff. https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/05/14/ ... offerings/

Although I'm sure they will continue to report any salacious stories

I like reading the trib articles even for other teams. I miss the hay day when Tony Jones was writing about USU (even Kyle Goon did a decent job) but honestly there is so much available now that wasn’t there just a short time ago. It’s hard to compete when there is twitter, multiple message boards and online blogs like MW wire that are cheap to run.

When all it’s all over I don’t think you get as deep if reporting into a program, but there is much broader coverage. One of the articles I remember the trib put out when GA first got the job was about the transformation of the summer conditioning program where the players were making these huge leaps from what was a terrible conditioning program before he arrived. I was still on the fence because I had been fooled before, but I bought in a little bit the first game I saw them play in person. The team looked like football players, and I remember Borel looked like he had gone through three years worth of training over one summer.

Floppy Hat · Post by **Floppy Hat** » May 15th, 2018, 8:28 am

Interestingly the two sport writers that got cut yesterday were the Utah and BYU beat reporters...Lynn Worthy and Jay Drew. I think the time of the college beat reporter is over.

I really miss the days when we had the great coverage Tony Jones and Jared Eborn provided.

Post by **Aglicious** » May 15th, 2018, 9:29 am

Just before being let go Jay Drew tweeted a congratulations to his daughter that was graduating from USU. Of course he added that she had earned a degree in mediocre football watching. What a douche.

Post by **GeoAg** » May 15th, 2018, 9:41 am

While I am sad for everyone else, I am ecstatic to dance on the grave of Jay Drew's career at the Tribune. From personal experience, he always had an agenda and little respect for the truth if it didn't align with that agenda.

Good riddance to bad rubbish for Mr. Drew

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » May 15th, 2018, 10:12 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
May 15th, 2018, 9:29 am
Just before being let go Jay Drew tweeted a congratulations to his daughter that was graduating from USU. Of course he added that she had earned a degree in mediocre football watching. What a douche.

Too bad she didn't graduate from ybu... then she could have earned a degree in bad football watching

OKAggie · Post by **OKAggie** » May 15th, 2018, 10:19 am

Nothing will change. You can't fall off the floor.

I read the Trib sports page online every day, and learn about 1/10 as much about the Aggies as I do from a few well placed individuals on this board, some friends in the valley, and social media.

Even before this latest shakeup at the Trib, anyone who was expecting the Salt Lake papers to give decent coverage to the Aggies should explain why it would make sense for them to do it. They didn't do it that well even when they were the only game in town -- much less reason for them to worry about it in the digital age. Our fan base in their market area is probably 1/10 that of the downstate sisters.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » May 15th, 2018, 11:03 am

OKAggie wrote: ↑
May 15th, 2018, 10:19 am
Nothing will change. You can't fall off the floor.

I read the Trib sports page online every day, and learn about 1/10 as much about the Aggies as I do from a few well placed individuals on this board, some friends in the valley, and social media.

Even before this latest shakeup at the Trib, anyone who was expecting the Salt Lake papers to give decent coverage to the Aggies should explain why it would make sense for them to do it. They didn't do it that well even when they were the only game in town -- much less reason for them to worry about it in the digital age. Our fan base in their market area is probably 1/10 that of the downstate sisters.

Taking this a step further - how much longer do you think any sports reporting department at a newspaper can last? Twitter, message boards, and the like always "scoop" the newspapers. Even if there are some half-facts, the gist of the news gets out long before the newspaper covers them. The only thing the newspapers are good for now are the in-depth player profile pieces or historical "documentary" type pieces the write. They no longer serve as a "news" source - word of mouth and social media have replaced them.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » May 15th, 2018, 11:14 am

Yossarian wrote: ↑
May 15th, 2018, 11:03 am

OKAggie wrote: ↑
May 15th, 2018, 10:19 am
Nothing will change. You can't fall off the floor.

I read the Trib sports page online every day, and learn about 1/10 as much about the Aggies as I do from a few well placed individuals on this board, some friends in the valley, and social media.

Even before this latest shakeup at the Trib, anyone who was expecting the Salt Lake papers to give decent coverage to the Aggies should explain why it would make sense for them to do it. They didn't do it that well even when they were the only game in town -- much less reason for them to worry about it in the digital age. Our fan base in their market area is probably 1/10 that of the downstate sisters.
Taking this a step further - how much longer do you think any sports reporting department at a newspaper can last? Twitter, message boards, and the like always "scoop" the newspapers. Even if there are some half-facts, the gist of the news gets out long before the newspaper covers them. The only thing the newspapers are good for now are the in-depth player profile pieces or historical "documentary" type pieces the write. They no longer serve as a "news" source - word of mouth and social media have replaced them.

I think sports reporters are slowly being compensated more and more based on social media presence. They have some tools and access that normal fans on Twitter do not have. I think the Tribune is moving this way, and they will still exist well into the future, but cuts were bound to happen.

Jjoey53 · Post by **Jjoey53** » May 15th, 2018, 9:52 pm

When they are so biased with their reporting it is a wonder they are doing as well as they are. Regrettably print newspapers are a dinosaur on the way out.

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Post by **aggies22** » May 15th, 2018, 10:21 pm

Sure we will. When the Torrey Green trial starts.

dyedblue · Post by **dyedblue** » May 15th, 2018, 10:24 pm

So true.

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utaggies · Post by **utaggies** » May 16th, 2018, 3:20 am

dyedblue wrote: ↑
May 15th, 2018, 10:24 pm
So true.

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In fairness to the Tribune or any other news outlet, what do we want them to report? “Congratulations to the softball team for another first round exit from the MWC tourney!”

“News” by its very nature should give info not otherwise known and pique interest. What aspect of USU sports right now would satisfy those two elements AND drive increased readership and advertising revenue by the news outlet to warrant the investment of time and $ to do so? I couldn’t think of anything either.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » May 16th, 2018, 8:45 am

They don’t have a conference tourney in softball for the MWC.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » May 16th, 2018, 9:05 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2018, 8:45 am
They don’t have a conference tourney in softball for the MWC.

That's news.

Donman · Post by **Donman** » May 16th, 2018, 9:20 am

This is why many organizations are putting out their own content. They are hiring reporters and producing their own videos and programming.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » May 16th, 2018, 10:03 am

Yossarian wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2018, 9:05 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2018, 8:45 am
They don’t have a conference tourney in softball for the MWC.

That's news.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » May 16th, 2018, 10:13 am

Donman wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2018, 9:20 am
This is why many organizations are putting out their own content. They are hiring reporters and producing their own videos and programming.

That's the best way to tell the story you want told.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » May 16th, 2018, 10:13 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2018, 10:03 am

Yossarian wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2018, 9:05 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2018, 8:45 am
They don’t have a conference tourney in softball for the MWC.

That's news.

Brian Quinn

Chupamedia · Post by **Chupamedia** » May 19th, 2018, 2:48 pm

Yossarian wrote:
NVAggie wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2018, 10:03 am

Yossarian wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2018, 9:05 am

NVAggie wrote: ↑
May 16th, 2018, 8:45 am
They don’t have a conference tourney in softball for the MWC.

That's news.

Brian Quinn

Awesome show

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » May 19th, 2018, 3:48 pm

New phone. Who dis?

Intermeddler · Post by **Intermeddler** » May 20th, 2018, 7:13 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
May 15th, 2018, 10:21 pm
Sure we will. When the Torrey Green trial starts.

Do you think they shouldn't cover that?

Post by **aggies22** » May 21st, 2018, 6:10 am

Intermeddler wrote: ↑
May 20th, 2018, 7:13 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
May 15th, 2018, 10:21 pm
Sure we will. When the Torrey Green trial starts.
Do you think they shouldn't cover that?

They have every right to. I was simply responding to the comment that the Trib will never cover USU again. The Torrey Green trial begins in the fall I believe and the Trib will be there. As will many other news media outlets. I would rather have no coverage, than have USU and the football program in the news for something like this. I wish Torrey had made better choices, used some self control and never put himself this situation and allegedly harmed those women. No women should have to go through what Torrey is accused of.

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