Proof of the Rivalry

Post by **GeoAg** » July 2nd, 2018, 6:21 pm

Love it. I saved this pic for posterity.

Post by **Aglicious** » July 2nd, 2018, 6:41 pm

I also find it hilarious that they have interjected BSU as a "rival" over these past few years. It's like they hope to ride the coat tails of the Bronco's success by placing themselves on the same plane. So they've played football for 100 years and in that time they've had 8 total matchups against BSU, losing 6 of those? Hardly a "rivalry".

But hey, they have practically the exact same win percentage against the Utes and people have been buying that as a rivalry for decades now.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » July 5th, 2018, 12:05 pm

What? No Weber or SUU?

BigBlueDart · Post by **BigBlueDart** » July 5th, 2018, 12:52 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑
July 5th, 2018, 12:05 pm
What? No Weber or SUU?

They don't play them this year.

aggiesdotcom · Post by **aggiesdotcom** » July 5th, 2018, 12:53 pm

BYU is guilty of rivalry appropriation. Boise State is one of our rivals, not theirs.

swordsman1989 · Post by **swordsman1989** » July 6th, 2018, 6:04 am

aggiesdotcom wrote: ↑
July 5th, 2018, 12:53 pm
BYU is guilty of rivalry appropriation. Boise State is one of our rivals, not theirs.

How on earth can their fans consider Boise State a rival?! They have played 8 times in total spread out over only the past 15 years. Their record is only 2-6 against Boise State. Hardly the makings of a "rivalry".

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » July 6th, 2018, 8:15 am

swordsman1989 wrote: ↑
July 6th, 2018, 6:04 am

aggiesdotcom wrote: ↑
July 5th, 2018, 12:53 pm
BYU is guilty of rivalry appropriation. Boise State is one of our rivals, not theirs.
How on earth can their fans consider Boise State a rival?! They have played 8 times in total spread out over only the past 15 years. Their record is only 2-6 against Boise State. Hardly the makings of a "rivalry".

To be fair, they also consider themselves to be a P5 program, so you can't really trust their judgment.

Post by **GeoAg** » July 6th, 2018, 9:05 am

They have self-awareness issues down at byu-provo. They are 5-3 against us over the last 8 years and consider it lopsided and not a rivalry, and yet Boise is a rivalry at 2-6? Sounds like an aspirational rivalry to me at best. In addition they have lost 7 straight to Utah...and yet somehow they think they are superior to all of these teams. Seems like someone is compensating for something.

No, for my point of view, I don't care what they think is a rivalry and what isn't, I just look forward to water the grass in Provo with cougar tears on October 5th.

thansen · Post by **thansen** » July 6th, 2018, 9:06 am

Is this a joke?

If not, in what year does BYU think they will be able to accomplish these goals? Will Sitake be around to see any of these goals accomplished?

Chupamedia · Post by **Chupamedia** » July 6th, 2018, 9:25 am

thansen wrote:Is this a joke?

If not, in what year does BYU think they will be able to accomplish these goals? Will Sitake be around to see any of these goals accomplished?

Unless their program gets picked up by a power conference no one would ever be around to see all these goals accomplished (and probably not even then). I think BYU hit it’s possible peak a decade back, independence does not suit them well.

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » July 6th, 2018, 9:59 am

Achievable goals:

Beating USU; and
Bowl eligibility.

No way they can accomplish any of the others, especially the last.

And the achievable goals may well be beyond their reach.

thansen · Post by **thansen** » July 6th, 2018, 10:51 am

If they beat us I'd be shocked if they don't achieve their bowl eligibility goal.

thegreendalegelf · Post by **thegreendalegelf** » July 6th, 2018, 12:06 pm

thansen wrote: ↑
July 6th, 2018, 10:51 am
If they beat us I'd be shocked if they don't achieve their bowl eligibility goal.

I think we are what stands between them and bowl eligibility. They will probably be either 6-6 or 5-7. The hard will be way too hard for them and the easy will be easy enough that they shouldn't lose.

I am afraid that this game will mean more to them than us this year and they will be motivated enough to win it. This will be their super bowl this year.

swordsman1989 · Post by **swordsman1989** » July 6th, 2018, 12:53 pm

Chupamedia wrote: ↑
July 6th, 2018, 9:25 am

thansen wrote:Is this a joke?

If not, in what year does BYU think they will be able to accomplish these goals? Will Sitake be around to see any of these goals accomplished?
Unless their program gets picked up by a power conference no one would ever be around to see all these goals accomplished (and probably not even then). I think BYU hit it’s possible peak a decade back, independence does not suit them well.

I think their peak was 1977-1996. 1996 was the last time BYU played in a major bowl game (really the only time they did) and made noise near the top of the national rankings (ranked 5th in both polls after the bowl games). Bronco did get them back into the top 25 regularly, but they certainly did not reach the levels they occasionally reached during the 1977-1996 period.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » July 6th, 2018, 12:57 pm

I wish we could enjoy 20 years of high success.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » July 6th, 2018, 1:28 pm

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑
July 5th, 2018, 12:52 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑
July 5th, 2018, 12:05 pm
What? No Weber or SUU?

They don't play them this year.

Thus the

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » July 6th, 2018, 1:29 pm

6. Meet the Queen of England
7. Fly to Mars
8......

USU_NoKaOi · Post by **USU_NoKaOi** » July 6th, 2018, 7:31 pm

ViAggie wrote:6. Meet the Queen of England
7. Fly to Mars
8......

Bwa haa haa!

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sneed · Post by **sneed** » July 8th, 2018, 3:46 pm

newhouse9 wrote:

Someone has already fixed this.

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Post by **Aglicious** » July 9th, 2018, 10:08 am

When you look at those goals and consider the game with USU affects the first 3 in a very direct way, it is no surprise that it is their super bowl. I don't believe they have a more important game on their schedule.

thegreendalegelf · Post by **thegreendalegelf** » July 9th, 2018, 10:15 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:08 am
When you look at those goals and consider the game with USU affects the first 3 in a very direct way, it is no surprise that it is their super bowl. I don't believe they have a more important game on their schedule.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Utah State game effectively decides the fate of Sitake for this exact reason. USU is what probably stands between BYU-Provo and going bowling. Not to mention that losing it could push them to 1-5 and the wheel can come off at that point.

thansen · Post by **thansen** » July 9th, 2018, 10:49 am

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:15 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:08 am
When you look at those goals and consider the game with USU affects the first 3 in a very direct way, it is no surprise that it is their super bowl. I don't believe they have a more important game on their schedule.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Utah State game effectively decides the fate of Sitake for this exact reason. USU is what probably stands between BYU-Provo and going bowling. Not to mention that losing it could push them to 1-5 and the wheel can come off at that point.

USU will have two weeks off before going to Provo and BYU will only have 6 days of rest after a road trip to Washington to play the Huskies. I definitely hope the wheel comes off. 1-5 would be nice but I'm hoping that they're 0-6 after we play them.

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » July 9th, 2018, 11:29 am

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:15 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:08 am
When you look at those goals and consider the game with USU affects the first 3 in a very direct way, it is no surprise that it is their super bowl. I don't believe they have a more important game on their schedule.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Utah State game effectively decides the fate of Sitake for this exact reason. USU is what probably stands between BYU-Provo and going bowling. Not to mention that losing it could push them to 1-5 and the wheel can come off at that point.

I recently read a tweet from a BYU fan saying that if USU beats BYU, then Sitake should be fired. Would really hurt to shoot ourselves in the foot like that. Almost worth letting BYU win that game if it means Sitake gets to keep the program in a downward spiral for another year.

SeattleAg · Post by **SeattleAg** » July 9th, 2018, 3:34 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 11:29 am

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:15 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:08 am
When you look at those goals and consider the game with USU affects the first 3 in a very direct way, it is no surprise that it is their super bowl. I don't believe they have a more important game on their schedule.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Utah State game effectively decides the fate of Sitake for this exact reason. USU is what probably stands between BYU-Provo and going bowling. Not to mention that losing it could push them to 1-5 and the wheel can come off at that point.
I recently read a tweet from a BYU fan saying that if USU beats BYU, then Sitake should be fired. Would really hurt to shoot ourselves in the foot like that. Almost worth letting BYU win that game if it means Sitake gets to keep the program in a downward spiral for another year.

It wasn't long ago that we were howling because USU didn't hire Sitake. Is he actually a sucky coach or is BYU just in a hopeless position?

Post by **aggies22** » July 9th, 2018, 3:41 pm

SeattleAg wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 3:34 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 11:29 am

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:15 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:08 am
When you look at those goals and consider the game with USU affects the first 3 in a very direct way, it is no surprise that it is their super bowl. I don't believe they have a more important game on their schedule.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Utah State game effectively decides the fate of Sitake for this exact reason. USU is what probably stands between BYU-Provo and going bowling. Not to mention that losing it could push them to 1-5 and the wheel can come off at that point.
I recently read a tweet from a BYU fan saying that if USU beats BYU, then Sitake should be fired. Would really hurt to shoot ourselves in the foot like that. Almost worth letting BYU win that game if it means Sitake gets to keep the program in a downward spiral for another year.
It wasn't long ago that we were howling because USU didn't hire Sitake. Is he actually a sucky coach or is BYU just in a hopeless position?

Some guys just aren't meant to be head coaches. Sitake is a great coordinator and an even better recruiter but hes filled his coaching staff with guys that can't coach worth $hit. That's great for us! When we win 10 games and Coach Wells gets poached and takes Keith Patterson with him, hiring Sitake to coach our defense would be fantastic.

thegreendalegelf · Post by **thegreendalegelf** » July 9th, 2018, 4:28 pm

I would expect a P5 school to try and snatch Sitake for DC. But I would be happy to have him.

BigBlueDart · Post by **BigBlueDart** » July 9th, 2018, 4:39 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 11:29 am

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:15 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:08 am
When you look at those goals and consider the game with USU affects the first 3 in a very direct way, it is no surprise that it is their super bowl. I don't believe they have a more important game on their schedule.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Utah State game effectively decides the fate of Sitake for this exact reason. USU is what probably stands between BYU-Provo and going bowling. Not to mention that losing it could push them to 1-5 and the wheel can come off at that point.
I recently read a tweet from a BYU fan saying that if USU beats BYU, then Sitake should be fired. Would really hurt to shoot ourselves in the foot like that. Almost worth letting BYU win that game if it means Sitake gets to keep the program in a downward spiral for another year.

Are you being a serious person? You can't be a serious person. This is not serious-person type talk, here. If you do, indeed, mean what you say then I call into question your Aggie fandom. I call into question anyone's Aggie fandom when they would rather see BYU (or any other school) fail than see the Aggies succeed.

trombone_ninja · Post by **trombone_ninja** » July 9th, 2018, 8:27 pm

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 4:39 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 11:29 am

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:15 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:08 am
When you look at those goals and consider the game with USU affects the first 3 in a very direct way, it is no surprise that it is their super bowl. I don't believe they have a more important game on their schedule.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Utah State game effectively decides the fate of Sitake for this exact reason. USU is what probably stands between BYU-Provo and going bowling. Not to mention that losing it could push them to 1-5 and the wheel can come off at that point.
I recently read a tweet from a BYU fan saying that if USU beats BYU, then Sitake should be fired. Would really hurt to shoot ourselves in the foot like that. Almost worth letting BYU win that game if it means Sitake gets to keep the program in a downward spiral for another year.
Are you being a serious person? You can't be a serious person. This is not serious-person type talk, here. If you do, indeed, mean what you say then I call into question your Aggie fandom. I call into question anyone's Aggie fandom when they would rather see BYU (or any other school) fail than see the Aggies succeed.

This is why we need the sarcasm font in case this

isn’t used

WasatchAggie · Post by **WasatchAggie** » July 10th, 2018, 7:40 am

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
July 6th, 2018, 12:06 pm

thansen wrote: ↑
July 6th, 2018, 10:51 am
If they beat us I'd be shocked if they don't achieve their bowl eligibility goal.
I think we are what stands between them and bowl eligibility. They will probably be either 6-6 or 5-7. The hard will be way too hard for them and the easy will be easy enough that they shouldn't lose.

I am afraid that this game will mean more to them than us this year and they will be motivated enough to win it. This will be their super bowl this year.

My neighbors kid, who wanted to play for USU, plays for BYU as USU had zero interest in him. Anyway, I asked him about their team, attitude, etc. on Sunday. He told me the new coaches have completely changed their attitude, work ethic and how they practice. He thinks they have the talent and with their new focus and energy they will have have a good year. Good is a relative term but he felt confident they would do noticeably better than last year.

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » July 10th, 2018, 8:20 am

BigBlueDart wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 4:39 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 11:29 am

thegreendalegelf wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:15 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
July 9th, 2018, 10:08 am
When you look at those goals and consider the game with USU affects the first 3 in a very direct way, it is no surprise that it is their super bowl. I don't believe they have a more important game on their schedule.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Utah State game effectively decides the fate of Sitake for this exact reason. USU is what probably stands between BYU-Provo and going bowling. Not to mention that losing it could push them to 1-5 and the wheel can come off at that point.
I recently read a tweet from a BYU fan saying that if USU beats BYU, then Sitake should be fired. Would really hurt to shoot ourselves in the foot like that. Almost worth letting BYU win that game if it means Sitake gets to keep the program in a downward spiral for another year.
Are you being a serious person? You can't be a serious person. This is not serious-person type talk, here. If you do, indeed, mean what you say then I call into question your Aggie fandom. I call into question anyone's Aggie fandom when they would rather see BYU (or any other school) fail than see the Aggies succeed.

Easy there, big fella. I figured that the wink at the end of the post was enough to imply that I was kidding.

BigBlueDart · Post by **BigBlueDart** » July 10th, 2018, 9:20 am

Yeah, I shoulda caught that. I guess I jumped because that attitude actually exists among some on this board. Which is probably what you were spoofing all along, right?

mcaggie1 · Post by **mcaggie1** » July 28th, 2018, 9:51 am

USU_NoKaOi wrote: ↑
July 6th, 2018, 7:31 pm

ViAggie wrote:6. Meet the Queen of England
7. Fly to Mars
8......
Bwa haa haa!

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8... Let both the male and female students at BYU grow facial hair.

LKGates · Post by **LKGates** » July 28th, 2018, 10:49 pm

There have been a couple of threads on Cougarboard about the game. I think some of their fans are waking up to some of the facts mentioned above (over the last 8 years, the series is pretty close, closer than the Utah rivalry; this game could decide their bowl eligibility; they'll be coming off four tough games and a short week, and we'll be coming off a bye). Some of them actually sound rational (worried).

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