As NFL camps open and football season is only a month away, I'm creating an Ags in the NFL contest.

As of today there are 16 former USU players under contract with an NFL team (list below). The contest is to guess which ones will be in the NFL when the season begins. Guess which players will be on the final 53-man roster on September 1, or on practice squads or injured/suspended/PUP lists before the first game of the season on September 6. The OKAggie Foundation (me) will make a $50 donation to the Big Blue Scholarship Fund or the Merlin Olsen Fund in the name of the winner.

Here's the hook: You rank the 16 players 16-1, most to least likely to stick in the NFL. For each player that is on the final 53-man roster, you get 2 points x the numeric ranking; for each player that is on the Week One practice squad, physically unable to perform, injured reserve or suspended list, you get 1 point times the numeric ranking. Players don't have to stick with the team they're currently under contract with -- if traded, or waived and picked up, they count if they stick with someone.

For example: if you think Bobby Wagner is the most likely to make the team (giving him a point value of 16) and he is on the final 53-man roster, you get 32 points. If you rank Jalen Davis least likely (giving him a point value of 1) and he makes the Week One practice squad, you get 1 point.

Mo Alexander/Seahawks
Jalen Davis/Dolphins
Marwin Evans/Packers
Kyler Fackrell/Packers
Tyler Larsen/Panthers
Nevin Lawson/Lions
Dallin Leavitt /Raiders
Devante Mays/Packers
Donald Penn/Raiders
Patrick Scales/Bears
Hunter Sharp/Giants
Robert Turbin/Colts
Nick Vigil/Bengals
Zach Vigil/Redskins
Bobby Wagner/Seahawks
Kerwynn Williams/Chiefs

Entries are due August 9 and can be made (or modified up to August 9) by entering your choices on this Google sheet. After the entry deadline, all entries will be cell-protected.

OKAggie is the sole arbiter of any disputes.

1. Dallin Levitt
2. Jalen Davis
3. Zach Vigil
4. Tyler Lawson
5. Kerwin Williams
6. Marwin Evans
7. Robert Turbin
8. Mo Alexander
9. Patrick Scales
10. Devante Mays
11. Kyler Fackrell
12. Hunter Sharp
13. Donald Penn
14. Nick Vigil
15. Nevin Lawson
16. Bobby Wagner

AggieUprising50 wrote: ↑

July 30th, 2018, 11:30 am

1. Bobby Wagner
2. Nevin Lawson
3. Nick Vigil
4. Donald Penn
5. Hunter Sharp
6. Patrick Scales
7. Kyler Fackrell
8. Devante Mays
9. Mo Alexander
10. Robert Turbin
11. Kerwin Williams
12. Marwin Evans
13. Tyler Lawson
14. Zach Vigil
15. Jalen Davis
16. Dallin Levitt

Based on his explanation, I think you want to flip your list. He said that having Bobby Wagner as 16 would give 32 points if he makes a roster. As it stands, you would get 2 points if Bobby Wagner makes the roster.

Excellent idea with an excellent prize!

jpswensen wrote: ↑

July 30th, 2018, 11:43 am

AggieUprising50 wrote: ↑

July 30th, 2018, 11:30 am

1. Bobby Wagner
2. Nevin Lawson
3. Nick Vigil
4. Donald Penn
5. Hunter Sharp
6. Patrick Scales
7. Kyler Fackrell
8. Devante Mays
9. Mo Alexander
10. Robert Turbin
11. Kerwin Williams
12. Marwin Evans
13. Tyler Lawson
14. Zach Vigil
15. Jalen Davis
16. Dallin Levitt

Based on his explanation, I think you want to flip your list. He said that having Bobby Wagner as 16 would give 32 points if he makes a roster. As it stands, you would get 2 points if Bobby Wagner makes the roster.

Good Catch. Thanks!

1. Devante Mays
2. Patrick Scales
3. Dallin Leavitt
4. Jalen Davis
5. Marwin Evans
6. Zach Vigil
7. Tyler Larsen
8. Hunter Sharp
9. Robert Turbin
10. Kerwynn Williams
11. Mo Alexander
12. Kyler Fackrell
13. Donald Penn
14. Nick Vigil
15. Bevin Lawson
16. Bobby Wagner


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Z. Vigil
Leavitt
Sharp
Larsen
Mays
Davis
Scales
Evans
Williams
Turbin
Alexander
Fackrell
N. Vigil
Penn
Lawson
Wagner

If you want in the contest with the $50 contribution prize, please enter your choices on this Google sheet.

Remember 16 is the most likely to stick, 1 is the least likely.

Ricky Ali'ifua signed with the Seahawks today.

aggies22 wrote:Ricky Ali'ifua signed with the Seahawks today.

I’m afraid the Seahawks are no longer in the NFL (lifelong Seahawks here btw)

Chupamedia wrote: ↑

August 3rd, 2018, 10:57 pm

aggies22 wrote:Ricky Ali'ifua signed with the Seahawks today.

I’m afraid the Seahawks are no longer in the NFL (lifelong Seahawks here btw)

Where did they go?

aggies22 wrote: ↑

August 3rd, 2018, 6:03 pm

Ricky Ali'ifua signed with the Seahawks today.

Good for Ricky. Not gonna change the contest.

Reminder: today’s the deadline to enter the Ags in the NFL contest. Please submit your entries directly into the google docs link in the OP (not by adding your list to this thread) by midnight mdt tonight.

Hoping that all 16 (plus Ali’ifua) make it! Go Ags!!

16 Bobby Wagner
15 Nick Vigil
14 Kyler Fackrell
13 Nevin Lawson
12 Donald Penn
11 Jalen Davis
10 Patrick Scales
9 Hunter Sharp
8 Marwin Evans
7 Maurice Alexander
6 Tyler Larsen
5 Kerwynn Williams
4 Zach Vigil
3 Robert Turbin
2 Devante Mays
1 Dallin Leavitt

So I went with close to the averages of the picks everyone else did. I am that lazy.

16 Bobby Wagner
15 Nick Vigil
14 Kyler Fackrell
13 Nevin Lawson
12 Donald Penn
11 Robert Turbin
10 Jalen Davis
9 Marwin Evans
8 Patrick Scales
7 Hunter Sharp
6 Maurice Alexander
5 Tyler Larsen
4 Kerwynn Williams
3 Zach Vigil
2 Devante Mays
1 Dallin Leavitt

It's closed - thanks for playing. Some factoids:

At least one of the 20 entrants chose every player but Leavitt as 10 or higher. Leavitt is clearly seen as the longest shot -- nobody chose him higher than 3.

Average rankings:

Wagner 16
N Vigil 14
Penn 13.7
Lawson 13.3
Fackrell 11.5
Scales 10.5
Turbin 8.2
Evans 7.8
Larsen 7.7
Williams 7.6
Z Vigil 6.4
Alexander 6.1
Sharp 5.1
Davis 3.8
Mays 3.4
Leavitt 1.3

Consensus:
Everyone picked Wagner 16, no-brainer
Everyone picked Leavitt 1-3
Everyone picked Penn and Lawson 12-15
Only Leavitt, Mays and Sharp were picked 1

Divergence:
Larsen was picked 15 by Floppy Hat, 2 by providence alum
Scales was picked 14 by bigblue, 2 by sambonethegreat
Turbin was picked 14 by dhilk3785, 3 by jsharvey
Sharp was picked 12 by Aggieuprising50, 1 by Floppy Hat

There you go. The sheet can now be viewed but not edited. Let the games begin!

Zach Vigil had 4 tackles last night for the Redskins.

What would have been better (in retrospect) is a "decision lens" type system that allowed us to rank the probability that any of them would make a roster. There are about 10 100% on a roster (Wagner, N. Vigil, Penn, Lawson, Fackrell, Turbin, Larsen
Williams, Z Vigil, and Scales) 4 pretty likely on a roster (Alexander, Evans, Mays and Sharp) and two long shots (Davis and Leavitt). I consider Dallin Leavitt a very long shot to make the Raiders, while the Dolphins really seem to like Jalen Davis. I hope all 16 make it.

https://www.thephinsider.com/2018/8/13/ ... 2-released

If he keeps that spot Jalen is going to make it as the 5/6 corner/Slot DB. Pretty much all the teams keep six corner/DB players and many keep 7 and only go with 3 pure safeties. Depends on what kind of hybrid/slot skills the 3rd team safeties have I guess but he looks to be in good shape.

16 Bobby Wagner
15 Patrick Scales
14 Nevin Lawson
13 Marwin Evans
12 Nick Vigil
11 Donald Penn
10 Robert Turbin
9 Kyler Fackrell
8 Tyler Larsen
7 Hunter Sharp
6 Jalen Davis
5 Maurice Alexander
4 Zach Vigil
3 Kerwynn Williams
2 Devante Mays
1 Dallin Leavitt

I think absent something major the first 10 are solid. The other 6 at least half make it. Only Leavitt is a real longshot. Mo is lower because of the safety competition he faces but Carroll likes him. Vigil probably will get the last ILB spot because of his special teams value. Davis is on track. Williams is a bubble guy right now and is out with a concussion. Mays needs to get healthy and perform but Aaron Jones suspension may get him an opening day spot.

hickaggie wrote: ↑

August 13th, 2018, 12:16 pm

https://www.thephinsider.com/2018/8/13/ ... 2-released

If he keeps that spot Jalen is going to make it as the 5/6 corner/Slot DB. Pretty much all the teams keep six corner/DB players and many keep 7 and only go with 3 pure safeties. Depends on what kind of hybrid/slot skills the 3rd team safeties have I guess but he looks to be in good shape.

16 Bobby Wagner
15 Patrick Scales
14 Nevin Lawson
13 Marwin Evans
12 Nick Vigil
11 Donald Penn
10 Robert Turbin
9 Kyler Fackrell
8 Tyler Larsen
7 Hunter Sharp
6 Jalen Davis
5 Maurice Alexander
4 Zach Vigil
3 Kerwynn Williams
2 Devante Mays
1 Dallin Leavitt

I think absent something major the first 10 are solid. The other 6 at least half make it. Only Leavitt is a real longshot. Mo is lower because of the safety competition he faces but Carroll likes him. Vigil probably will get the last ILB spot because of his special teams value. Davis is on track. Williams is a bubble guy right now and is out with a concussion. Mays needs to get healthy and perform but Aaron Jones suspension may get him an opening day spot.

I have to think that Mays' performance in his opportunities last year have to be in the back of peoples' minds. One yard on 4 carries and 2 fumbles isn't going to get you the benefit of the doubt when fighting for roster spots.

hickaggie wrote: ↑

August 13th, 2018, 12:16 pm

Williams is a bubble guy right now and is out with a concussion. Mays needs to get healthy and perform but Aaron Jones suspension may get him an opening day spot.

As a dedicated Packer fan I can tell you Williams is not on the bubble-- he is definitely in the rotation as one of the 3 running backs (with Aaron Jones and Ty Montgomery) they will use heavily this year. They also like Mays-- he contributes well on Special Teams and he provides them a faster big back option than Joe Kerridge, one of two fullbacks on their roster. Devante's big issue last year was fumbling. They gave him a chance in game 9 to show his stuff and he fumbled the rock two out of the four times he carried it. After that it was special teams or blocking, but he rarely if ever carried the ball again.

They are also considering moving Montgomery full-time back to WR, and what works for Mays if that happens is he's a 230 pounder who runs a 4.45 40. Won't ever get that out of Kerridge, which is why I think Mays will claim the last roster spot with the Packers.

AggiesForever wrote: ↑

August 14th, 2018, 9:57 am

hickaggie wrote: ↑

August 13th, 2018, 12:16 pm

Williams is a bubble guy right now and is out with a concussion. Mays needs to get healthy and perform but Aaron Jones suspension may get him an opening day spot.

As a dedicated Packer fan I can tell you Williams is not on the bubble-- he is definitely in the rotation as one of the 3 running backs (with Aaron Jones and Ty Montgomery) they will use heavily this year. They also like Mays-- he contributes well on Special Teams and he provides them a faster big back option than Joe Kerridge, one of two fullbacks on their roster. Devante's big issue last year was fumbling. They gave him a chance in game 9 to show his stuff and he fumbled the rock two out of the four times he carried it. After that it was special teams or blocking, but he rarely if ever carried the ball again.

They are also considering moving Montgomery full-time back to WR, and what works for Mays if that happens is he's a 230 pounder who runs a 4.45 40. Won't ever get that out of Kerridge, which is why I think Mays will claim the last roster spot with the Packers.

I'm pretty sure he meant Kerwynn Williams.

YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑

August 14th, 2018, 10:22 am

AggiesForever wrote: ↑

August 14th, 2018, 9:57 am

hickaggie wrote: ↑

August 13th, 2018, 12:16 pm

Williams is a bubble guy right now and is out with a concussion. Mays needs to get healthy and perform but Aaron Jones suspension may get him an opening day spot.

As a dedicated Packer fan I can tell you Williams is not on the bubble-- he is definitely in the rotation as one of the 3 running backs (with Aaron Jones and Ty Montgomery) they will use heavily this year. They also like Mays-- he contributes well on Special Teams and he provides them a faster big back option than Joe Kerridge, one of two fullbacks on their roster. Devante's big issue last year was fumbling. They gave him a chance in game 9 to show his stuff and he fumbled the rock two out of the four times he carried it. After that it was special teams or blocking, but he rarely if ever carried the ball again.

They are also considering moving Montgomery full-time back to WR, and what works for Mays if that happens is he's a 230 pounder who runs a 4.45 40. Won't ever get that out of Kerridge, which is why I think Mays will claim the last roster spot with the Packers.

I'm pretty sure he meant Kerwynn Williams.

That slow poke? Good luck.

Dallin Leavitt Played punt and KO coverage teams and the whole second half of the Raiders game at safety. Nothing he did was stand out but I thought he was solid in his coverage (zone). And, when he was there to make the tackle he took the guy down quickly with a solid hit after maybe a yard gain. Not sure how the coaches will grade him. The Lions busted a 60 yard running play and it looked like Leavitt might have over pursued and taken himself out of the play. No way to tell what his responsibility was on that defensive call. It looked like a blitz, If it was, he's clear. If not he could be to blame.


Didn't see Nevin involved. The starters played only a series or 2

Tyler Lawson signed a 2-year contract extension last week with the Panthers. I would say that gives him a pretty good chance of making the opening day roster.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -extension

Coloraggie wrote: ↑

August 15th, 2018, 2:54 pm

Tyler Lawson signed a 2-year contract extension last week with the Panthers. I would say that gives him a pretty good chance of making the opening day roster.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -extension

Which is why I moved him into my top 8 before I posted my entry!

Per this projection from ESPN's (ingest grain of salt now) NFL Nation beat reporters, most of the 17 Ags in NFL camps are expected to make their team's 53-man roster. Only Ali'ifua, Davis, Evans, Leavitt and Williams are predicted to be left off (Turbin will start the season on the suspended list).

Levitt forced a fumble on Kickoff coverage in last weeks game. Unfortunately the ball went out of bounds. He continues to look good in zone but looked overmatched when they got him one on one even though he defended the passes thrown at him. I expect him to get a lot of playing time Thursday night in the final preseason game. Hope he has a great game. Raiders are likely to move a veteran DB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie back to safety for depth. Levitt outlasted a 2nd or 3rd round safety the raiders picked last season. Even though he looked good and exceeded my expectations, I don't think he'll stick. Maybe he'll get a shot elsewhere. Picked up on another teams practice squad.

Mays was immediately put on the injured list due to his hamstring not responding. The Packers cut Aaron Ripkowski, their primary fullback, so I think they're keeping the 230 pound Mays around for some heavy lifting, once his leg heals. They only have two running backs on their active roster, Jamaal Williams and Ty Montgomery. The other back, Aaron Jones, is suspended for up to 4 games.

The Packers also cut Marwin Evans, but there is a belief they will sign him back to their practice squad.

Dallin Leavitt made the Raiders practice squad

It’s a big deal that Vigil made it based on the way preseason went for him. Lots of people thought Martell Spaight would take Vigil’s spot. Those people forget how huge Vigil was for the skins last season.

For those who were unaware- the Redskins linebacking core was decimated by injury last year. Vigil was originally cut, went to Buffalo (I think on the practice squad) was cut and came in after all those injuries and started after being out of football for a few weeks. I’m impressed with Zack for that. Lots of guys may have called it quits but Zack kept grinding and it paid off.

I think it was a case of Zack not needing to prove himself to Gruden and that’s why he didn’t play much and why people thought it was Speight’s spot.

This “may” mean he isn’t a journeyman. God bless the 3-4 for getting Zack a spot. One of my favorite Aggies and Redskins of all time.

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑

September 2nd, 2018, 8:31 pm

It’s a big deal that Vigil made it based on the way preseason went for him. Lots of people thought Martell Speight would take Vigil’s spot. Those people forget how huge Vigil was for the skins last season.

For those who were unaware- the Redskins linebacking core was decimated by injury last year. Vigil was originally cut, went to Buffalo (I think on the practice squad) was cut and came in after all those injuries and started after being out of football for a few weeks. I’m impressed with Zach for that. Lots of guys may have called it quits but Zach kept grinding and it paid off.

I think it was a case of Zach not needing to prove himself to Gruden and that’s why he didn’t play much and why people thought it was Speight’s spot.

This “may” mean he isn’t a journeyman. God bless the 3-4 for getting Zach a spot. One of my favorite Aggies and Redskins of all time.

Vigil played quite a bit in the pre-season, just not the last game. All of the starters sat that game (as is the norm). I was slightly worried he wouldn't make it, but after watching him start several games last year and play well, I was expecting him to make the squad. Zach's first start for the Skins was the Thanksgiving game. I was in attendance on the 5th row.