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Just keep winning and maybe we leapfrog FSU. UCF might have to lose two...
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for those interested: http://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings
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Re: CFP Rankings
Tennessee Tech and NMSU have really hurt us just by being on the schedule. Fresno lost to Minnesota by the same amount we lost to Michigan State. Michigan State is much better than Minnesota. BYU sucking isn’t helping us either but I’m ok with it haha
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I am surprised about folks being surprised. Our SOS is bad. We've not beaten anyone with a winning record. Our only win outside of the state of Utah was against Wyoming and it was a very close game against a not very good team. All we can do is win out and hope for some help. That being said, we are in a position that not many thought we'd be in. Let's enjoy the ride instead of bemoaning the "injustice" of not being on the NY6 radar.
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Not seeing anywhere where "injustice" was said. Surprised is a lot different than thinking something is unfair. The only thing different for fresno is they beat a terrible UCLA team. I get it, just crazy to be ranked higher in both other polls.utaggies wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:08 pmI am surprised about folks being surprised. Our SOS is bad. We've not beaten anyone with a winning record. Our only win outside of the state of Utah was against Wyoming and it was a very close game against a not very good team. All we can do is win out and hope for some help. That being said, we are in a position that not many thought we'd be in. Let's enjoy the ride instead of bemoaning the "injustice" of not being on the NY6 radar.
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This should not be a surprise. I’ll tell you we’re not that close to being ranked either. Houston is for sure at least ahead of us. This is why BYU crapping the bed hurts us.
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If had had to bet a lot of money today on who is the best team in the MW id also prob pick Fresno. Do they belong more in the rankings than we do though? I dont really think so. Thats where my surprise comes from. I wish we had been lucky enough to schedule ucla this year.
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They absolutely do. Much better wins.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:21 pmIf had had to bet a lot of money today on who is the best team in the MW id also prob pick Fresno. Do they belong more in the rankings than we do though? I dont really think so. Thats where my surprise comes from. I wish we had been lucky enough to schedule ucla this year.
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Who?swishh_15 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:28 pmThey absolutely do. Much better wins.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:21 pmIf had had to bet a lot of money today on who is the best team in the MW id also prob pick Fresno. Do they belong more in the rankings than we do though? I dont really think so. Thats where my surprise comes from. I wish we had been lucky enough to schedule ucla this year.
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Hawaii, Nevada, UCLA, and Toledo are better than NMSU, TTU, AFA, UNLV.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:31 pmWho?swishh_15 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:28 pmThey absolutely do. Much better wins.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:21 pmIf had had to bet a lot of money today on who is the best team in the MW id also prob pick Fresno. Do they belong more in the rankings than we do though? I dont really think so. Thats where my surprise comes from. I wish we had been lucky enough to schedule ucla this year.
As far as common opponents so far, they did better against WYO than we did, while we did better against UNM than they did. And the way we beat WYO doesn't help our image at all.
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I think it's funny you left their FCS off and then included ours in place of BYU. I would put BYU on par with UCLA and Nevada and much better than Hawaii (They did destroy them afterall). Toledo is probably on par with Air Force. Fresno's schedule may be slightly better but it isn't that much different.NAggsty Butler wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:35 pmHawaii, Nevada, UCLA, and Toledo are better than NMSU, TTU, AFA, UNLVUsu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:31 pmWho?swishh_15 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:28 pmThey absolutely do. Much better wins.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:21 pmIf had had to bet a lot of money today on who is the best team in the MW id also prob pick Fresno. Do they belong more in the rankings than we do though? I dont really think so. Thats where my surprise comes from. I wish we had been lucky enough to schedule ucla this year.
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The funny thing is I completely forgot that Idaho is FCS. That is sad.ProvoAggie wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:37 pmI think it's funny you left their FCS off and then included ours in place of BYU. I would put BYU on par with UCLA and Nevada and much better than Hawaii (They did destroy them afterall). Toledo is probably on par with Air Force. Fresno's schedule may be slightly better but it isn't that much different.NAggsty Butler wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:35 pmHawaii, Nevada, UCLA, and Toledo are better than NMSU, TTU, AFA, UNLVUsu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:31 pmWho?swishh_15 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:28 pmThey absolutely do. Much better wins.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:21 pmIf had had to bet a lot of money today on who is the best team in the MW id also prob pick Fresno. Do they belong more in the rankings than we do though? I dont really think so. Thats where my surprise comes from. I wish we had been lucky enough to schedule ucla this year.
Now that I look back at my post, I'm not really sure why I didn't include BYU on the list. Maybe because I don't know how to classify them. They have some really good looking wins while absolutely sucking in their losses. But like you said, UCLA and Nevada are probably on par with BYU, and that is more decent wins than us. I agree with you though, the difference in our schedule is slight. I think we are pretty much even with Fresno, with them having a very small lead.
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NAggsty Butler wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:43 pmThe funny thing is I completely forgot that Idaho is FCS. That is sad.ProvoAggie wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:37 pmI think it's funny you left their FCS off and then included ours in place of BYU. I would put BYU on par with UCLA and Nevada and much better than Hawaii (They did destroy them afterall). Toledo is probably on par with Air Force. Fresno's schedule may be slightly better but it isn't that much different.NAggsty Butler wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:35 pmHawaii, Nevada, UCLA, and Toledo are better than NMSU, TTU, AFA, UNLVUsu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:31 pmWho?swishh_15 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:28 pmThey absolutely do. Much better wins.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:21 pmIf had had to bet a lot of money today on who is the best team in the MW id also prob pick Fresno. Do they belong more in the rankings than we do though? I dont really think so. Thats where my surprise comes from. I wish we had been lucky enough to schedule ucla this year.
Now that I look back at my post, I'm not really sure why I didn't include BYU on the list. Maybe because I don't know how to classify them. They have some really good looking wins while absolutely sucking in their losses. But like you said, UCLA and Nevada are probably on par with BYU, and that is more decent wins than us. I agree with you though, the difference in our schedule is slight. I think we are pretty much even with Fresno, with them having a very small lead.
Its like comparing 2 diff pieces of garbage. The only difference maker in scheduling for fresno is ucla and i get it. It is a pac 12 win. Look all im saying is i would have been a lot less surprised to see Houston. Just rolled albeit a crappy but ranked usf and beat a down year pac 12 team. Once again not saying Aggies are there yet but i dont believe fresno is based off other's they left out and where people got ranked. And fresno ooc schedule definitely doesnt convince me other wise. Agree to dissaggree i suppose.ProvoAggie wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:37 pmI think it's funny you left their FCS off and then included ours in place of BYU. I would put BYU on par with UCLA and Nevada and much better than Hawaii (They did destroy them afterall). Toledo is probably on par with Air Force. Fresno's schedule may be slightly better but it isn't that much different.NAggsty Butler wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:35 pmHawaii, Nevada, UCLA, and Toledo are better than NMSU, TTU, AFA, UNLVUsu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:31 pmWho?swishh_15 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:28 pmThey absolutely do. Much better wins.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:21 pmIf had had to bet a lot of money today on who is the best team in the MW id also prob pick Fresno. Do they belong more in the rankings than we do though? I dont really think so. Thats where my surprise comes from. I wish we had been lucky enough to schedule ucla this year.
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Re: CFP Rankings
USU being ranked higher in both polls means absolutely nothing re: the CFP ranking. I believe there are three things that have resulted in Fresno St. being ranked ahead of USU: 1) FSU's SOS is better; 2) we've beaten no one of consequence and have only 1 win outside of the state; and 3) the optics of the Wyoming win were very, very bad.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:12 pmNot seeing anywhere where "injustice" was said. Surprised is a lot different than thinking something is unfair. The only thing different for fresno is they beat a terrible UCLA team. I get it, just crazy to be ranked higher in both other polls.utaggies wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:08 pmI am surprised about folks being surprised. Our SOS is bad. We've not beaten anyone with a winning record. Our only win outside of the state of Utah was against Wyoming and it was a very close game against a not very good team. All we can do is win out and hope for some help. That being said, we are in a position that not many thought we'd be in. Let's enjoy the ride instead of bemoaning the "injustice" of not being on the NY6 radar.
That being said, the solution to all of this is for USU to win out. Only the G5 conference champs are candidates for a NY6 bowl. So our best scenario is to beat BSU, have FSU win out, and then beat the Bulldogs on their home turf ....all this while hoping that Houston loses a regular season game but beats UCF in the conference championship.
It is a stretch to believe all of those stars will align. So let's enjoy trying to win the conference championship.
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I would have been more shocked to see us make the initial rankings. Fresno St. is more deserving at this point and all the metrics back that up. Even if you go by the good ol' eyeball test, I would say Fresno St. is the team to beat in the MWC. An argument could be made that USU is still not even in the top 3 depending on how you feel about SDSU and their multiple injuries to starters.
The good news is that we still control our own destiny and if the team can maintain the focus to go 1-0 each week, then they are going to like where they are at the end of the year. I don't think UCF will go undefeated and the other AAC teams are likely going to beat each other right out of the rankings. The fact that Fresno St. and USU don't meet up unless it is in the MWC championship game really sets up the winner of that game to vault into a NY6 spot should UCF fall.
The good news is that we still control our own destiny and if the team can maintain the focus to go 1-0 each week, then they are going to like where they are at the end of the year. I don't think UCF will go undefeated and the other AAC teams are likely going to beat each other right out of the rankings. The fact that Fresno St. and USU don't meet up unless it is in the MWC championship game really sets up the winner of that game to vault into a NY6 spot should UCF fall.
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Agreed. Hopefully a little extra motivation for them.utaggies wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:50 pmUSU being ranked higher in both polls means absolutely nothing re: the CFP ranking. I believe there are three things that have resulted in Fresno St. being ranked ahead of USU: 1) FSU's SOS is better; 2) we've beaten no one of consequence and have only 1 win outside of the state; and 3) the optics of the Wyoming win were very, very bad.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:12 pmNot seeing anywhere where "injustice" was said. Surprised is a lot different than thinking something is unfair. The only thing different for fresno is they beat a terrible UCLA team. I get it, just crazy to be ranked higher in both other polls.utaggies wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:08 pmI am surprised about folks being surprised. Our SOS is bad. We've not beaten anyone with a winning record. Our only win outside of the state of Utah was against Wyoming and it was a very close game against a not very good team. All we can do is win out and hope for some help. That being said, we are in a position that not many thought we'd be in. Let's enjoy the ride instead of bemoaning the "injustice" of not being on the NY6 radar.
That being said, the solution to all of this is for USU to win out. Only the G5 conference champs are candidates for a NY6 bowl. So our best scenario is to beat BSU, have FSU win out, and then beat the Bulldogs on their home turf ....all this while hoping that Houston loses a regular season game but beats UCF in the conference championship.
It is a stretch to believe all of those stars will align. So let's enjoy trying to win the conference championship.
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Happy about the snub. This eases my fears about a letdown in Honolulu. Just stay focused and keep winning and good things will happen.
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Where Fresno St. is ranked doesn't matter if we finish 11 - 1 we're going to be ranked above them. We need to worry about the AAC teams, we control our own destiny vs. other MWC teams.
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Except beating Fresno would be a whole lot harder in Fresno than in Logan for the MWC championship. If both teams are undefeated in the MWC it’ll come down to this ranking.brownjeans wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 7:37 pmWhere Fresno St. is ranked doesn't matter if we finish 11 - 1 we're going to be ranked above them. We need to worry about the AAC teams, we control our own destiny vs. other MWC teams.
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I’m not at all surprised or disappointed. We knew from the beginning that this was a weak schedule and there’s nothing that can be done about it (except for win and win big, which is exactly what they’re doing). You’d think that hanging 50 in the first half against the cupcakes would be more meaningful than beating the cupcakes by a score or two, but what do I know.
I want to be upset that UCF is ranked so low, but their SOS is as bad as ours and they haven’t won as many blowouts as we have. My biggest issue is that a G5 will never be given a chance at the playoff no matter what success they have.
I want to be upset that UCF is ranked so low, but their SOS is as bad as ours and they haven’t won as many blowouts as we have. My biggest issue is that a G5 will never be given a chance at the playoff no matter what success they have.
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Best possible scenario for us is Boise beats Fresno, then we beat Boise. That should put us ahead of Fresno, and hosting the conference championship game. We win out and become conference champions. UCF loses to a lower ranked program in the AAC championship game.
It would be great if we went to a NY6 game. Honestly, though, considering where we have been as a program, and considering we were picked to finish 4th in the Mountain Division preseason (though I never believed that), I'd be happy to have a conference championship, and a win in the Las Vegas Bowl over a PAC12 opponent. That in turn sets us up for next year, when we get most of the team back, and a much more impressive strength of schedule.
It would be great if we went to a NY6 game. Honestly, though, considering where we have been as a program, and considering we were picked to finish 4th in the Mountain Division preseason (though I never believed that), I'd be happy to have a conference championship, and a win in the Las Vegas Bowl over a PAC12 opponent. That in turn sets us up for next year, when we get most of the team back, and a much more impressive strength of schedule.
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Just out of curiosity what if no MW team ends up in the playoff poll? How would a tie be decided then? I wouldnt want that as it would be bad for us and the conference but it is possibe right? I wish there was a "also recieving votes section for this poll. Be nice to know exactly where we stand. Maybe the final poll extends to top 50 and im just unaware? Ill be honesty i haven't paid that close of attention to this before seeing as we have never even been in the discussion.swishh_15 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 7:53 pmExcept beating Fresno would be a whole lot harder in Fresno than in Logan for the MWC championship. If both teams are undefeated in the MWC it’ll come down to this ranking.brownjeans wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 7:37 pmWhere Fresno St. is ranked doesn't matter if we finish 11 - 1 we're going to be ranked above them. We need to worry about the AAC teams, we control our own destiny vs. other MWC teams.
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CFP is the 2nd tie breaker. Home Field is determined by conference record, then head to head, then CFP. If Fresno loses to Boise and we win out then we have the better conference record. I believe the next tie breaker is the old computer polls that made up the BCS.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 8:20 pmJust out of curiosity what if no MW team ends up in the playoff poll? How would a tie be decided then? I wouldnt want that as it would be bad for us and the conference but it is possibe right? I wish there was a "also recieving votes section for this poll. Be nice to know exactly where we stand. Maybe the final poll extends to top 50 and im just unaware? Ill be honesty i haven't paid that close of attention to this before seeing as we have never even been in the discussion.swishh_15 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 7:53 pmExcept beating Fresno would be a whole lot harder in Fresno than in Logan for the MWC championship. If both teams are undefeated in the MWC it’ll come down to this ranking.brownjeans wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 7:37 pmWhere Fresno St. is ranked doesn't matter if we finish 11 - 1 we're going to be ranked above them. We need to worry about the AAC teams, we control our own destiny vs. other MWC teams.
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I see. Its probably extremely unlikely anyway. It really sucks to be on the outside looking in and not knowing exactly where we stand but i guess JFW? I Think i used that right anyway? Thanks for the insight!ProvoAggie wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 8:26 pmCFP is the 2nd tie breaker. Home Field is determined by conference record, then head to head, then CFP. If Fresno loses to Boise and we win out then we have the better conference record. I believe the next tie breaker is the old computer polls that made up the BCS.Usu0505 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 8:20 pmJust out of curiosity what if no MW team ends up in the playoff poll? How would a tie be decided then? I wouldnt want that as it would be bad for us and the conference but it is possibe right? I wish there was a "also recieving votes section for this poll. Be nice to know exactly where we stand. Maybe the final poll extends to top 50 and im just unaware? Ill be honesty i haven't paid that close of attention to this before seeing as we have never even been in the discussion.swishh_15 wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 7:53 pmExcept beating Fresno would be a whole lot harder in Fresno than in Logan for the MWC championship. If both teams are undefeated in the MWC it’ll come down to this ranking.brownjeans wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 7:37 pmWhere Fresno St. is ranked doesn't matter if we finish 11 - 1 we're going to be ranked above them. We need to worry about the AAC teams, we control our own destiny vs. other MWC teams.
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#1 They’re actually undefeated.
#2 They beat the golden child an SEC team in their NY bowl last year
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Something to think about... do we have a better chance of winning a game in Fresno than in Logan? Logan in the winter is cold and windy. It will likely be 20-30 degrees warmer in Fresno. Really cold weather could hurt our offensive game, especially if it snows. If we get into a defensive, running the ball type of game with Fresno, I don’t like our odds.
Obviously I want the game in logan, I’m just wondering what gives us the better chance of winning.
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Fresno taking a flight to Slc, then a bus for 90 mins to Logan (maybe they charter?), then playing in snow in front of our crowd (18,000 strong I’m sure) gives us an advantage. Snow isn’t bad for passing offenses and tends to favor the home team, especially against warm weather teams. Wind is a much bigger factor.flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑October 31st, 2018, 12:18 amSomething to think about... do we have a better chance of winning a game in Fresno than in Logan? Logan in the winter is cold and windy. It will likely be 20-30 degrees warmer in Fresno. Really cold weather could hurt our offensive game, especially if it snows. If we get into a defensive, running the ball type of game with Fresno, I don’t like our odds.
Obviously I want the game in logan, I’m just wondering what gives us the better chance of winning.
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Completely agree with everything you said. I am more than hopeful that we keep up the good work long enough that we can see how we fare in a MWC championship game.utaggies wrote: ↑October 30th, 2018, 6:08 pmI am surprised about folks being surprised. Our SOS is bad. We've not beaten anyone with a winning record. Our only win outside of the state of Utah was against Wyoming and it was a very close game against a not very good team. All we can do is win out and hope for some help. That being said, we are in a position that not many thought we'd be in. Let's enjoy the ride instead of bemoaning the "injustice" of not being on the NY6 radar.
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I’m surprised that Iowa State is ranked 23rd with a record of 4-3. They lost to a 3-5 TCU.