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So when can we expect a GA announcement now that he’s finished with Utah? ::joking::
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Hartwell is gonna be too busy dicking around New York to be interviewing candidates. No wonder it’s gonna take two weeks to hire a coach. He’s got to get his vacation over with first.TrueBlueAggie123 wrote:So when can we expect a GA announcement now that he’s finished with Utah? ::joking::
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Wonder how long it will take them to figure out it was Gary Andersen that changed us from a perennial doormat into a winner:
https://www.lubbockonline.com/news/2018 ... tech-job/1
"?Wells?, who made inroads toward winning the past six years as head coach at perennial doormat Utah State..."
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Relax. Get the right guy.2004AG wrote:Hartwell is gonna be too busy dicking around New York to be interviewing candidates. No wonder it’s gonna take two weeks to hire a coach. He’s got to get his vacation over with first.TrueBlueAggie123 wrote:So when can we expect a GA announcement now that he’s finished with Utah? ::joking::
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I thought the same thing while watching the Pac 12 game. if there is a mutual interest here, it has to happen. That dude brought such an energy to Logan...
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There are only 3 people that know what's going on -- Hartwell, the search firm he's working with, and Jim Laub. If your source isn't one of them -- you don't have a source; you just have better placed individuals that like to talk.Chupamedia wrote: ↑November 30th, 2018, 7:23 pmI wouldn’t be hard in raggie - what he said sounded a lot like what I’ve heard from some insiders although it was before Wells was a sure exit. I’ve also seen how quickly things change and that sometimes even high up insiders are not privy to the ADs brain. I appreciate him sharing what he has heard- I also hope we still have a chance at Gary.
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I would think that he would be doing some initial interviews in New York. As has been mentioned, even though Hartwell knew this was going to happen, he had to wait until Matt left to start interviewing. All he could do was put feelers out to gage the interest of those on his list. I’m sure the firm that we hired has already been doing this for a while. He mentioned in his conference that one of the reasons he picked the firm was because of their respect for confidentiality. I’m sure this has been in the works for a while. By all accounts, TT has been in contact with Matt and his agent for at least a couple of weeks, if not more, and we’ll need that amount of time as well. Most of the coaches that we are going to interview are in middle of their own seasons so setting up interviews might take some delicate planning. Hartwell is not going to New York for a vacation, he is to smart for that. I’m just glad that he is leading us through this process because in 10-14 days we are going to have a very good coach.2004AG wrote: ↑November 30th, 2018, 9:48 pmHartwell is gonna be too busy dicking around New York to be interviewing candidates. No wonder it’s gonna take two weeks to hire a coach. He’s got to get his vacation over with first.TrueBlueAggie123 wrote:So when can we expect a GA announcement now that he’s finished with Utah? ::joking::
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He should be doing the interviews himself the next few days and make the decision first of the week, not hanging out with other AD’s in New York. Gary and Jay, to name two, are here, not New York.GeorgiaAggie wrote:I would think that he would be doing some initial interviews in New York. As has been mentioned, even though Hartwell knew this was going to happen, he had to wait until Matt left to start interviewing. All he could do was put feelers out to gage the interest of those on his list. I’m sure the firm that we hired has already been doing this for a while. He mentioned in his conference that one of the reasons he picked the firm was because of their respect for confidentiality. I’m sure this has been in the works for a while. By all accounts, TT has been in contact with Matt and his agent for at least a couple of weeks, if not more, and we’ll need that amount of time as well. Most of the coaches that we are going to interview are in middle of their own seasons so setting up interviews might take some delicate planning. Hartwell is not going to New York for a vacation, he is to smart for that. I’m just glad that he is leading us through this process because in 10-14 days we are going to have a very good coach.2004AG wrote: ↑November 30th, 2018, 9:48 pmHartwell is gonna be too busy dicking around New York to be interviewing candidates. No wonder it’s gonna take two weeks to hire a coach. He’s got to get his vacation over with first.TrueBlueAggie123 wrote:So when can we expect a GA announcement now that he’s finished with Utah? ::joking::
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Have you considered that they didn’t make the list?2004AG wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 8:39 amHe should be doing the interviews himself the next few days and make the decision first of the week, not hanging out with other AD’s in New York. Gary and Jay, to name two, are here, not New York.GeorgiaAggie wrote:I would think that he would be doing some initial interviews in New York. As has been mentioned, even though Hartwell knew this was going to happen, he had to wait until Matt left to start interviewing. All he could do was put feelers out to gage the interest of those on his list. I’m sure the firm that we hired has already been doing this for a while. He mentioned in his conference that one of the reasons he picked the firm was because of their respect for confidentiality. I’m sure this has been in the works for a while. By all accounts, TT has been in contact with Matt and his agent for at least a couple of weeks, if not more, and we’ll need that amount of time as well. Most of the coaches that we are going to interview are in middle of their own seasons so setting up interviews might take some delicate planning. Hartwell is not going to New York for a vacation, he is to smart for that. I’m just glad that he is leading us through this process because in 10-14 days we are going to have a very good coach.2004AG wrote: ↑November 30th, 2018, 9:48 pmHartwell is gonna be too busy dicking around New York to be interviewing candidates. No wonder it’s gonna take two weeks to hire a coach. He’s got to get his vacation over with first.TrueBlueAggie123 wrote:So when can we expect a GA announcement now that he’s finished with Utah? ::joking::
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Then he’s not doing his due diligence.GeorgiaAggie wrote:Have you considered that they didn’t make the list?2004AG wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 8:39 amHe should be doing the interviews himself the next few days and make the decision first of the week, not hanging out with other AD’s in New York. Gary and Jay, to name two, are here, not New York.GeorgiaAggie wrote:I would think that he would be doing some initial interviews in New York. As has been mentioned, even though Hartwell knew this was going to happen, he had to wait until Matt left to start interviewing. All he could do was put feelers out to gage the interest of those on his list. I’m sure the firm that we hired has already been doing this for a while. He mentioned in his conference that one of the reasons he picked the firm was because of their respect for confidentiality. I’m sure this has been in the works for a while. By all accounts, TT has been in contact with Matt and his agent for at least a couple of weeks, if not more, and we’ll need that amount of time as well. Most of the coaches that we are going to interview are in middle of their own seasons so setting up interviews might take some delicate planning. Hartwell is not going to New York for a vacation, he is to smart for that. I’m just glad that he is leading us through this process because in 10-14 days we are going to have a very good coach.2004AG wrote: ↑November 30th, 2018, 9:48 pmHartwell is gonna be too busy dicking around New York to be interviewing candidates. No wonder it’s gonna take two weeks to hire a coach. He’s got to get his vacation over with first.TrueBlueAggie123 wrote:So when can we expect a GA announcement now that he’s finished with Utah? ::joking::
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There isn’t anybody in New York that is a candidate for the job either way.
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But he’s gonna talk to his bros in NY, who are going to tell him who to hire....2004AG wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 10:18 amThen he’s not doing his due diligence.GeorgiaAggie wrote:Have you considered that they didn’t make the list?2004AG wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 8:39 amHe should be doing the interviews himself the next few days and make the decision first of the week, not hanging out with other AD’s in New York. Gary and Jay, to name two, are here, not New York.GeorgiaAggie wrote:I would think that he would be doing some initial interviews in New York. As has been mentioned, even though Hartwell knew this was going to happen, he had to wait until Matt left to start interviewing. All he could do was put feelers out to gage the interest of those on his list. I’m sure the firm that we hired has already been doing this for a while. He mentioned in his conference that one of the reasons he picked the firm was because of their respect for confidentiality. I’m sure this has been in the works for a while. By all accounts, TT has been in contact with Matt and his agent for at least a couple of weeks, if not more, and we’ll need that amount of time as well. Most of the coaches that we are going to interview are in middle of their own seasons so setting up interviews might take some delicate planning. Hartwell is not going to New York for a vacation, he is to smart for that. I’m just glad that he is leading us through this process because in 10-14 days we are going to have a very good coach.2004AG wrote: ↑November 30th, 2018, 9:48 pmHartwell is gonna be too busy dicking around New York to be interviewing candidates. No wonder it’s gonna take two weeks to hire a coach. He’s got to get his vacation over with first.TrueBlueAggie123 wrote:So when can we expect a GA announcement now that he’s finished with Utah? ::joking::
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There isn’t anybody in New York that is a candidate for the job either way.
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Nostalgia is taking over- I will be disappointed if it's not GA. He looked plenty energetic on the sidelines last night. Getting him now will help us keep the recruits.
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Tim Duryea thinks that a a great idea.ineptimusprime wrote:But he’s gonna talk to his bros in NY, who are going to tell him who to hire....2004AG wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 10:18 amThen he’s not doing his due diligence.GeorgiaAggie wrote:Have you considered that they didn’t make the list?2004AG wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 8:39 amHe should be doing the interviews himself the next few days and make the decision first of the week, not hanging out with other AD’s in New York. Gary and Jay, to name two, are here, not New York.GeorgiaAggie wrote:I would think that he would be doing some initial interviews in New York. As has been mentioned, even though Hartwell knew this was going to happen, he had to wait until Matt left to start interviewing. All he could do was put feelers out to gage the interest of those on his list. I’m sure the firm that we hired has already been doing this for a while. He mentioned in his conference that one of the reasons he picked the firm was because of their respect for confidentiality. I’m sure this has been in the works for a while. By all accounts, TT has been in contact with Matt and his agent for at least a couple of weeks, if not more, and we’ll need that amount of time as well. Most of the coaches that we are going to interview are in middle of their own seasons so setting up interviews might take some delicate planning. Hartwell is not going to New York for a vacation, he is to smart for that. I’m just glad that he is leading us through this process because in 10-14 days we are going to have a very good coach.2004AG wrote: ↑November 30th, 2018, 9:48 pmHartwell is gonna be too busy dicking around New York to be interviewing candidates. No wonder it’s gonna take two weeks to hire a coach. He’s got to get his vacation over with first.TrueBlueAggie123 wrote:So when can we expect a GA announcement now that he’s finished with Utah? ::joking::
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Hopefully if Gary is the guy it does mean we play Utah again. Utah losing their chump ad and us gaining a close friend of Whit could change things.
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You are really reaching now. Wells made great staff decisions the last two years that led us to having the longest winning streak in school history. Implying that not hiring a former coach who was coming off the Oregon State debacle is a "fireable offense" is ludicrous. You don't know how Andersen on staff would have affected the team, but we do know what did happen led to one of our best seasons in school history.Imakeitrain wrote: ↑November 30th, 2018, 7:12 amYou have an obligation to make the team better. Putting personal business ahead of the team is imo a fire-able offense.
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i don't think GA is coming.
and that's ok. i think we'll do just fine.
and that's ok. i think we'll do just fine.
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Same with me. Hartwell has no connection to GA. He did well hiring Smith. Trust the process. The idea that donors could be in control the process is also a bit hard for me to accept. We're a little more ethical than that, aren't we?AndroidAggie wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 11:05 ami don't think GA is coming.
and that's ok. i think we'll do just fine.
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not to be contrarian, but i don't see it as a problem of ethics. the boosters are just fighting for what they want. big time boosters know that hartwell will eventually be gone and they'll still be here. the AD needs to keep the relationship between himself and USU athletics and the donors in good shape. when the goals and desires of one party are drastically off base, then we have problems. i don't think the donors wanting GA back are off base, and i don't think hartwell's position (whatever it is, i have zero idea and prefer not to speculate) is probably not off-base either.
other programs have this same conflict. it's healthy. or rather, it can be.
but either way... i think the longer it takes for an answer the less likely it is to be Gary Andersen. influential boosters want him. the fans would probably eat it up. despite my own misgivings, i admit there's a high ceiling to GA's ability here. the only thing holding it back is whether or not hartwell or GA want it. so yeah... the longer it goes on the more it shows that either GA or Hartwell are either disinterested or unsure... which is pretty much just plain disinterest.
we'll see, i guess.
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So much (I can't express myself without swearing) in one thread and so little time
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With a decision this important, I’d be highly suprised if President Cockett wasn’t involved. It’s not like you are hiring a new assistant professor for the English Dept.
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Has there been a run on Depend for men in Logan?
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Wasn't directed at you actually
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This is just my thought process, if GA wants the job enough, he will push for ways to overcome Hartwell's concerns, better defining expectations and contract details. Resistance in the situation (by boosters or Hartwell) can clarify the arguments of each party and hopefully lead to better decision. If the statements of booster's and Hartwell's are true, it is not going to hurt to consider many options. The best option maybe Gary, but looking at all the options first is not a bad idea. I would say some extra time (1-2 weeks) is on our side.AndroidAggie wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 11:24 amnot to be contrarian, but i don't see it as a problem of ethics. the boosters are just fighting for what they want. big time boosters know that hartwell will eventually be gone and they'll still be here. the AD needs to keep the relationship between himself and USU athletics and the donors in good shape. when the goals and desires of one party are drastically off base, then we have problems. i don't think the donors wanting GA back are off base, and i don't think hartwell's position (whatever it is, i have zero idea and prefer not to speculate) is probably not off-base either.
other programs have this same conflict. it's healthy. or rather, it can be.
but either way... i think the longer it takes for an answer the less likely it is to be Gary Andersen. influential boosters want him. the fans would probably eat it up. despite my own misgivings, i admit there's a high ceiling to GA's ability here. the only thing holding it back is whether or not hartwell or GA want it. so yeah... the longer it goes on the more it shows that either GA or Hartwell are either disinterested or unsure... which is pretty much just plain disinterest.
we'll see, i guess.
If I were in Hartwell's shoes, I would say, "We know we have 1 good option, now let's look other options to make sure it is right."
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Like your postAndroidAggie wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 11:24 amnot to be contrarian, but i don't see it as a problem of ethics. the boosters are just fighting for what they want. big time boosters know that hartwell will eventually be gone and they'll still be here. the AD needs to keep the relationship between himself and USU athletics and the donors in good shape. when the goals and desires of one party are drastically off base, then we have problems. i don't think the donors wanting GA back are off base, and i don't think hartwell's position (whatever it is, i have zero idea and prefer not to speculate) is probably not off-base either.
other programs have this same conflict. it's healthy. or rather, it can be.
but either way... i think the longer it takes for an answer the less likely it is to be Gary Andersen. influential boosters want him. the fans would probably eat it up. despite my own misgivings, i admit there's a high ceiling to GA's ability here. the only thing holding it back is whether or not hartwell or GA want it. so yeah... the longer it goes on the more it shows that either GA or Hartwell are either disinterested or unsure... which is pretty much just plain disinterest.
we'll see, i guess.
When GA was hired, Scott Barnes made a road trip and had alumni luncheons announcing/introducing GA. He said that GA was "the guy" that would turn our program around. At the lunchon I heard a big time booster tell Scott Barnes, " GA better turn the program around, your job depends on it." That represents the way I hope the process plays out. Let Harwell make the selection, and hold him accountable. I'm hopeful that we keep moving forward with a hiring process that allows searching for the most qualified candidate. It took a long time to change our culture, I don't want it going back.
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She’s kind of busy feeding the world right now...WasatchAggie wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 11:31 amWith a decision this important, I’d be highly suprised if President Cockett wasn’t involved. It’s not like you are hiring a new assistant professor for the English Dept.
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Stawwwww man.Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 11:00 amYou are really reaching now. Wells made great staff decisions the last two years that led us to having the longest winning streak in school history. Implying that not hiring a former coach who was coming off the Oregon State debacle is a "fireable offense" is ludicrous. You don't know how Andersen on staff would have affected the team, but we do know what did happen led to one of our best seasons in school history.Imakeitrain wrote: ↑November 30th, 2018, 7:12 amYou have an obligation to make the team better. Putting personal business ahead of the team is imo a fire-able offense.
I said not doing whatever you can to make the program better in favor of Matt’s own personal feelings is fireable. This is true.
If a CEO has the opportunity to increase profits but doesn’t because of personal reasons he isn’t putting the company first, and is sacrificing the company for his own benefit.
I qualified my statement, and you conveniently left out the context. IF Wells did this because of personal reasons like wanting to dump us earlier for Oregon State; and was upset that Gary took the job instead- and the decision was personal and NOT football then it’s fireable. But the argument I was responding to is a boss shouldn’t want his former boss, and suggested Wells was protecting himself.
A football argument can be made, which is why I said “if”.
No, I don’t KNOW- but Utah took back Andersen who coached with Scalley, who he was over prior and they were a good team.
The whole “you don’t know argument” is weak because that could be said about almost anything.
You don’t KNOW that Alabama will be a really good team next year.
You don’t KNOW anything in life.
But there is a good reason to believe that Gary would have been a really guy to have on a football x’s And o’s Basis”
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Hartwell also made a homerun hire for Troy before coming to USU and they seem to be doing really well. I trust his decision making and process.
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No new coach that is in control of his faculties would hire his predecessor back as an assistant coach. The last thing a team needs is to have its players conflicted as to loyalties. I cannot think of a high-profile example of this happening in any sport. Crazyness!
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Same here. At first I thought no way would GA coming back be a good situation. Then I watched the YouTube highlights of his Aggie teams...seabass wrote:Nostalgia is taking over- I will be disappointed if it's not GA. He looked plenty energetic on the sidelines last night. Getting him now will help us keep the recruits.
I’d take him back in a heartbeat.
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Pres. Cockett will be involved in the final interviews and confirming the selection, but the real work on who is going to be presented to her are the 3 mentioned above. And I don't believe any of those 3 are going to be talking with anybody on this board.WasatchAggie wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 11:31 amWith a decision this important, I’d be highly suprised if President Cockett wasn’t involved. It’s not like you are hiring a new assistant professor for the English Dept.
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Just a thought about Gary and the type of person he is/was. I can’t remember if it was his last year or second to last year but we were all frustrated with a certain type of play they kept calling. I sent him an email (not knowing or ever having met him) asking if he would explain why they were running the play during his next coachess how. I then thanked him for his efforts. Like many, I have my contact information on my signature line. Within minutes of me sending Gary the email, he was calling my cell to thank me for the email and explain why they were doing what they were doing. I’m not a whale or even a moderate donor. My father and I have seats and the west side. However, to Gary, that was a sufficient committment to the program that a fair question deserved a fair response. I’m not sure if he is the best fit now or the best candidate but he knows how to work the press and the fans and I certainly was impressed with his call and comments.
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Bobby Petrino hired John L. Smith at Arkansas from 2009-2011 and coached under him at several schools.utaggies wrote: ↑December 1st, 2018, 1:27 pmNo new coach that is in control of his faculties would hire his predecessor back as an assistant coach. The last thing a team needs is to have its players conflicted as to loyalties. I cannot think of a high-profile example of this happening in any sport. Crazyness!
It wasn't the exact predecessor, but the guy he once answered to was now his employee.