Who are the finalists?

dogie · Post by **dogie** » December 7th, 2018, 7:20 pm

bluegrouse wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2018, 1:15 pm
In the case of Tim Duryea, he may well have been the best (or only) candidate who was able or willing to take the job. Nobody wants to follow a legend. (I don’t know this to be true but I wouldn’t be surprised.) Or Barnes was pressured into the choice and he didn’t stand his ground. Just saying that in this case, it may not have been a failure of the search firm......

Let’s be frank here. Everyone knows it was a wire-to-wire failure on part of everyone involved in the botched hiring process of Tim Duryea.

bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » December 7th, 2018, 7:21 pm

dogie wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 7:20 pm

bluegrouse wrote: ↑
December 6th, 2018, 1:15 pm
In the case of Tim Duryea, he may well have been the best (or only) candidate who was able or willing to take the job. Nobody wants to follow a legend. (I don’t know this to be true but I wouldn’t be surprised.) Or Barnes was pressured into the choice and he didn’t stand his ground. Just saying that in this case, it may not have been a failure of the search firm......
Let’s be frank here. Everyone knows it was a wire-to-wire failure on part of everyone involved in the botched hiring process of Tim Duryea.

Do we or do we just think we do?

bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » December 7th, 2018, 7:21 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 7:00 pm
Hearing that GA is a firm maybe.

If it’s him, I really hope most of the posts in these threads about him telling the AD to eff off and then withdrawing his name as a ploy are false. That would indicate he’s still the unstable guy that sent the texts at OSU. That’d be a lot of drama to put up with for a guy that flopped hard at his last coaching gig, IMO.

I totally agree

ChicagoAggie · Post by **ChicagoAggie** » December 7th, 2018, 7:43 pm

LOL! Are Rat, Wac08 and MWC12 the same person?

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » December 7th, 2018, 7:50 pm

Whether or not it is true I have no clue, but if GA is coach are any people concerned? I only say that because it seems there has been a lot of back and forth about him getting the job as well as him pulling out of consideration. Obviously we don't know if those are true, but I do get concerned if he truly is on board and has the prior drive he did to get the job done.

ratofallaggies · Post by **ratofallaggies** » December 7th, 2018, 7:53 pm

ChicagoAggie wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 7:43 pm
LOL! Are Rat, Wac08 and MWC12 the same person?

No, but that would be funny. I’m pretty sure most people on here know who I am

UtahStizzle · Post by **UtahStizzle** » December 7th, 2018, 8:33 pm

ineptimusprime wrote:Hearing that GA is a firm maybe.

If it’s him, I really hope most of the posts in these threads about him telling the AD to eff off and then withdrawing his name as a ploy are false. That would indicate he’s still the unstable guy that sent the texts at OSU. That’d be a lot of drama to put up with for a guy that flopped hard at his last coaching gig, IMO.

My sources tell me it's been downgraded to a soft maybe. One source even said a 'strong perhaps'.

ratofallaggies · Post by **ratofallaggies** » December 7th, 2018, 9:00 pm

This has been an insane “process” only to circle back to the guy they were staring at the entire time....

TrueBlueAggie123 · Post by **TrueBlueAggie123** » December 7th, 2018, 9:03 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:This has been an insane “process” only to circle back to the guy they were staring at the entire time....

Gary confirmed?

dyedblue · Post by **dyedblue** » December 7th, 2018, 9:13 pm

Yep. Not impressed but go Aggies

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ratofallaggies · Post by **ratofallaggies** » December 7th, 2018, 9:13 pm

TrueBlueAggie123 wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:03 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:This has been an insane “process” only to circle back to the guy they were staring at the entire time....
Gary confirmed?

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » December 7th, 2018, 9:14 pm

Hope he has his (I can't express myself without swearing) together and gets good assistants.

AndroidAggie · Post by **AndroidAggie** » December 7th, 2018, 9:15 pm

ratofallaggies wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:13 pm

TrueBlueAggie123 wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:03 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:This has been an insane “process” only to circle back to the guy they were staring at the entire time....
Gary confirmed?

do people have a bad taste in their mouth over all this? feels like a cloud hanging over the whole process to me.

bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » December 7th, 2018, 9:17 pm

Honestly don’t know what to think. Could be good. Could be a disaster. I do think it’s a pretty big risk. I hope it pays off.

bigblue · Post by **bigblue** » December 7th, 2018, 9:18 pm

AndroidAggie wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:13 pm

TrueBlueAggie123 wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:03 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:This has been an insane “process” only to circle back to the guy they were staring at the entire time....
Gary confirmed?

do people have a bad taste in their mouth over all this? feels like a cloud hanging over the whole process to me.

I would agree. I'm very split. Gary wasn't my first choice. I'm excited though. But I hate the thought of some internal power struggle with the donors and the AD.

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bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » December 7th, 2018, 9:18 pm

AndroidAggie wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:15 pm

ratofallaggies wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:13 pm

TrueBlueAggie123 wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:03 pm

ratofallaggies wrote:This has been an insane “process” only to circle back to the guy they were staring at the entire time....
Gary confirmed?

do people have a bad taste in their mouth over all this? feels like a cloud hanging over the whole process to me.

Process hasn’t been good. Conflicted on the outcome.

N8boz · Post by **N8boz** » December 7th, 2018, 9:19 pm

Gary it is! Bet he hires some solid assistants. The process of looking at coaches may have been also looking at how other teams and coaches respect Anderson, making sure he isn't looked as a cancer and what not.

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Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » December 7th, 2018, 9:20 pm

wacfan08 · Post by **wacfan08** » December 7th, 2018, 9:21 pm

ChicagoAggie wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 7:43 pm
LOL! Are Rat, Wac08 and MWC12 the same person?

Would you rather me not post when we are in these situations?

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » December 7th, 2018, 9:22 pm

AndroidAggie wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:15 pm
do people have a bad taste in their mouth over all this? feels like a cloud hanging over the whole process to me.

This is not a knock on Gary, but if the boosters forced the hire, yes, I have a very bad taste in my mouth. You have to let the man do his job. A coach who was hired by a coup-de-gras is going to feel like he can do anything and get away with it. Forcing the hire won't result in a good relationship between the HC and the AD and it will cause major problems. If that's how it wen't down, it's not good for USU.

AndroidAggie · Post by **AndroidAggie** » December 7th, 2018, 9:23 pm

wacfan08 wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:21 pm
Would you rather me not post when we are in these situations?

when we joined the MWC i actually thought you became MWCFAN12...

bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » December 7th, 2018, 9:23 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:22 pm

AndroidAggie wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:15 pm
do people have a bad taste in their mouth over all this? feels like a cloud hanging over the whole process to me.
This is not a knock on Gary, but if the boosters forced the hire, yes, I have a very bad taste in my mouth. You have to let the man do his job. A coach who was hired by a coup-de-gras is going to feel like he can do anything and get away with it. Forcing the hire won't result in a good relationship between the HC and the AD and it will cause major problems. If that's how it wen't down, it's not good for USU.

Completely agree

wacfan08 · Post by **wacfan08** » December 7th, 2018, 9:24 pm

AndroidAggie wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:23 pm

wacfan08 wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:21 pm
Would you rather me not post when we are in these situations?
when we joined the MWC i actually thought you became MWCFAN12...

I did. I just post important stuff under this name. Got to much hate mail during the conference switch.

AndroidAggie · Post by **AndroidAggie** » December 7th, 2018, 9:26 pm

wacfan08 wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:24 pm
I did. I just post important stuff under this name. Got to much hate mail during the conference switch.

wow. some people's children.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » December 7th, 2018, 9:27 pm

bluegrouse wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:23 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:22 pm

AndroidAggie wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:15 pm
do people have a bad taste in their mouth over all this? feels like a cloud hanging over the whole process to me.
This is not a knock on Gary, but if the boosters forced the hire, yes, I have a very bad taste in my mouth. You have to let the man do his job. A coach who was hired by a coup-de-gras is going to feel like he can do anything and get away with it. Forcing the hire won't result in a good relationship between the HC and the AD and it will cause major problems. If that's how it wen't down, it's not good for USU.
Completely agree

I'm surprised anyone is this naive regarding the situation. It's always the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules.

Post by **GeoAg** » December 7th, 2018, 9:30 pm

I am excited to have GA come back. I would also caution people about making a decision about the hire based on their impression of the hiring process gleaned through a mishmash of random message board posts.

Old Timer · Post by **Old Timer** » December 7th, 2018, 9:31 pm

Gee, I wonder who the booster was??????

UtahStizzle · Post by **UtahStizzle** » December 7th, 2018, 9:31 pm

If the boosters really made this call then they better be donating a stadium upgrade or something amazing.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » December 7th, 2018, 9:32 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:30 pm
I am excited to have GA come back. I would also caution people about making a decision about the hire based on their impression of the hiring process gleaned through a mishmash of random message board posts.

Level headed and reAsonable. I’ve been drawing all my conclusions from the message board.

bigblue · Post by **bigblue** » December 7th, 2018, 9:32 pm

UtahStizzle wrote:If the boosters really made this call then they better be donating a stadium upgrade or something amazing.

This ^^^^^

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Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » December 7th, 2018, 9:34 pm

Old Timer wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:31 pm
Gee, I wonder who the booster was??????

Put your thinking cap on.

AgTime · Post by **AgTime** » December 7th, 2018, 9:35 pm

UtahStizzle wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:31 pm
If the boosters really made this call then they better be donating a stadium upgrade or something amazing.

They already have...

Machismo · Post by **Machismo** » December 7th, 2018, 9:35 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:30 pm
I am excited to have GA come back. I would also caution people about making a decision about the hire based on their impression of the hiring process gleaned through a mishmash of random message board posts.

Agreed, Hartwell makes the final decision, I'd hate to think that a few boosters & (JL)
Would not respect his professional opinion as an AD and force him to hire someone he was opposed to. That to me is pretty crazy.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » December 7th, 2018, 9:37 pm

AgTime wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:35 pm

UtahStizzle wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:31 pm
If the boosters really made this call then they better be donating a stadium upgrade or something amazing.
They already have...

Haha I was going to say...again?! They already just did 2 years ago.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » December 7th, 2018, 9:37 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:27 pm

bluegrouse wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:23 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:22 pm

AndroidAggie wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 9:15 pm
do people have a bad taste in their mouth over all this? feels like a cloud hanging over the whole process to me.
This is not a knock on Gary, but if the boosters forced the hire, yes, I have a very bad taste in my mouth. You have to let the man do his job. A coach who was hired by a coup-de-gras is going to feel like he can do anything and get away with it. Forcing the hire won't result in a good relationship between the HC and the AD and it will cause major problems. If that's how it wen't down, it's not good for USU.
Completely agree
I'm surprised anyone is this naive regarding the situation. It's always the golden rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules.

Naive - funny you used a word meaning a lack of experience, wisdom, and judgement. Because that's exactly what our boosters are if they forced this hire.

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