ChicAggie wrote: ↑

November 14th, 2018, 10:09 am

From the FWIW Department, I know we're only three games in against mediocre competition, but here are the current Offensive Ratings (points scored per 100 possessions), Defensive Ratings (points allowed per 100 possessions), and Net Ratings (difference between ORtg and DRtg) for the Aggies so far:

Player.........ORtg....DRtg.....NRtg
QTaylor......159.1.....88.4.....+70.7
JBean........154.3.....80.1.....+74.2
BMiller.......152.8...100.2.....+52.6
DBrown.....149.9.....94.0.....+55.9
SMerrill.....149.9.....94.3.....+55.6
APorter......130.2.....95.6....+34.6
DBrito........130.1.....87.1....+43.0
JKnight.....128.9.....86.4....+42.5
BFakira......126.4....95.6....+30.8
NQueta.....107.8.....85.7....+22.1
TKnight.......91.0....95.4...... -4.4
CAinge........80.0....94.5.... -14.5

The only players who have not contributed positively for the Aggies so far this season are Tauriawn and Ainge. Some of those numbers are absolutely ridiculous, but we are only three games in and they will certainly change dramatically as the season wears on. I like what I see so far.

gametime12 wrote: ↑

November 14th, 2018, 10:46 am

ChicAggie wrote: ↑

November 14th, 2018, 10:09 am

From the FWIW Department, I know we're only three games in against mediocre competition, but here are the current Offensive Ratings (points scored per 100 possessions), Defensive Ratings (points allowed per 100 possessions), and Net Ratings (difference between ORtg and DRtg) for the Aggies so far:

Player.........ORtg....DRtg.....NRtg
QTaylor......159.1.....88.4.....+70.7
JBean........154.3.....80.1.....+74.2
BMiller.......152.8...100.2.....+52.6
DBrown.....149.9.....94.0.....+55.9
SMerrill.....149.9.....94.3.....+55.6
APorter......130.2.....95.6....+34.6
DBrito........130.1.....87.1....+43.0
JKnight.....128.9.....86.4....+42.5
BFakira......126.4....95.6....+30.8
NQueta.....107.8.....85.7....+22.1
TKnight.......91.0....95.4...... -4.4
CAinge........80.0....94.5.... -14.5

The only players who have not contributed positively for the Aggies so far this season are Tauriawn and Ainge. Some of those numbers are absolutely ridiculous, but we are only three games in and they will certainly change dramatically as the season wears on. I like what I see so far.

Is this information online somewhere or did you calculate it yourself? Great info, and thank you for the time it must've taken to calculate that if you did it yourself!

MetsJetsAggies wrote:Quinn Taylor has quietly been an elite offensive efficiency guy every year. I'm not surprised to see him take another step forward in his senior season, he takes good shots and makes them a majority of the time...plus he's a good rebounder

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November 14th, 2018, 10:10 pm

It's Quinn.

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treesap32 wrote: ↑

November 14th, 2018, 10:10 pm

It's Quinn.

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Wasn’t Quin first recruited by Stu?

ChicAggie wrote: ↑

January 6th, 2019, 2:05 pm

Not sure what happens to these numbers with increased playing time, but he has gotten real minutes against starters in the past couple of games (23 minutes - which is more than Ainge, TK, Fakira, and Johnson and nearly the same as Brown and Brito), and his numbers have stayed at or near the top of the pack in every one of these categories.

MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑

January 6th, 2019, 11:57 pm

ChicAggie wrote: ↑

January 6th, 2019, 2:05 pm

Not sure what happens to these numbers with increased playing time, but he has gotten real minutes against starters in the past couple of games (23 minutes - which is more than Ainge, TK, Fakira, and Johnson and nearly the same as Brown and Brito), and his numbers have stayed at or near the top of the pack in every one of these categories.

There is a section for conference per 40 minute and 100 possession stats, to get a better idea for how Bean has performed with increased minutes the past 2 games. Not quite as god-like, but still really solid

MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑

January 6th, 2019, 11:57 pm

ChicAggie wrote: ↑

January 6th, 2019, 2:05 pm

Not sure what happens to these numbers with increased playing time, but he has gotten real minutes against starters in the past couple of games (23 minutes - which is more than Ainge, TK, Fakira, and Johnson and nearly the same as Brown and Brito), and his numbers have stayed at or near the top of the pack in every one of these categories.

There is a section for conference per 40 minute and 100 possession stats, to get a better idea for how Bean has performed with increased minutes the past 2 games. Not quite as god-like, but still really solid

USUBlue wrote: ↑

January 7th, 2019, 12:25 am

As he gets more minutes, his numbers will drop . . . .

MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑

January 7th, 2019, 12:00 am

Also agree wholeheartedly with the PG stuff. Even a Shane Rector would transform this team, or a Brockeith Pane type. It is 100% holding us back and there doesn't seem to be an easy solution. The guys we have are keeping us afloat, but it's going to pose a problem if we have any hope to win close, tougher games or somehow make the tournament.

I really think this team looked pretty lethal with JK3 semi running point, or at least guarding the point. No one on our team can play the 1 offensively, or defensively outside of Sam and JK3 IMO. TK has shown flashes but is very inconsistent. Brito is OK too but also offensively challenged and defensively matches up better on a wing, which is OK when Sam is on the floor to guard a PG.

IF JK3 can get his act together, I like our chances against anyone. He provides speed, defense, and can get to the rim better than anyone other than Sam. We are missing his play on both ends right now when you consider how much time we have to use Ainge/Porter at the point, and no depth behind Sam really either

ChicAggie wrote:I have been looking at the Per 100 Possession and Advanced Stats for the Ags so far this season and during conference play and see some interesting numbers: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/sc ... /2019.html

Not surprisingly the obvious Aggie cream has risen to the top as the season has progressed, with the one notable surprise being Justin Bean (albeit in limited action - only 64 minutes so far, the 2nd fewest minutes on the team ahead of only Alek Johnson).

In limited minutes, Bean has the highest Net Rating on the season and in the Aggie's two conference games so far. He seems to be our Dennis Rodman: not the most gifted offensive player, but his activity has been amazing and he absolutely wins the GATA belt for the season to date. He leads the team in PER (Player Efficiency Rating) at 34.3 (Merrill is 2nd at 25.1); ORtg (points produced per 100 possessions) at 137 (Merrill is 2nd at 132); DRtg (points allowed per 100 possessions) at 80 (Queta is 2nd at 82.7); NetRtg (the difference between ORtg and DRtg) at 57 (Merrill is 2nd at 37.7); plus/minus at 14.3 (Queta is 2nd at 10.2); Win Shares/40 at .335 (Merrill is 2nd at .268); rebounds per 100 possessions with 29.2 TRB (Queta is 2nd with 19.2 TRB); and steals per 100 possessions at 4.3 (JK3 is 2nd at 3.7). He is 2nd on the team in fewest turnovers per 100 possessions at 1.7 (Miller is 1st at 1.0); blocks per 100 possessions at 1.7 (Queta is 1st at 5.6); and free throw attempts per 100 possessions at 8.6 (JK3 is 1st at 11). He is also 5th on the team in FG% at .500 (behind Queta, Brown, Taylor, and Merrill). Not sure what happens to these numbers with increased playing time, but he has gotten real minutes against starters in the past couple of games (23 minutes - which is more than Ainge, TK, Fakira, and Johnson and nearly the same as Brown and Brito), and his numbers have stayed at or near the top of the pack in every one of these categories.

Miller has come around nicely over the past several games, and is actually 2nd on the team behind Bean in Net Rating after two conference games. Despite defenses focused on shutting down Merrill, he remains an extremely positive force for the Ags with a plus 19.8 Net Rating after two conference games. And though Queta needs to learn how to stay on the court for longer stretches, he has been a force in the middle and a model of efficiency in scoring down low. While Quinn struggled against Nevada, his output against AF was the X factor. Given his consistent production for the Ags for years, I expect him to continue to shine. In his four seasons in an Aggie uniform, Taylor has had a positive plus/minus number every season and is fourth on the team this season at +7.5 behind only Bean (+14.3), Queta (+10.2), and Merrill (+8.9). Behind Taylor, the dropoff is fairly significant: Brown at +3.1.

The biggest concern so far is that our PG play has been historically brutal: in my opinion easily the worst in the modern history of Aggie basketball (at least in my own history of watching the Aggies starting in 1978). Each of Ainge, Porter, and TK have struggled mightily on the season -- and two games into conference play, production from the PG position has been even worse than it was in the OOC schedule. In two conference games the NetRtg for the three PGs has been crazy bad: -96.3 for TK, -77.8 for Ainge, and -26.6 for Porter. Player Efficiency Ratings have been similarly awful: -12.0 for TK, -8.2 for Ainge, and +4.9 for Porter (again, 15.0 is AVERAGE). Both TK and Ainge have NEGATIVE win shares during conference play and Porter's is a pitiful .006/40. None of them can hit a 3P shot to save their lives. For the season, Porter sits at .214 3P%, TK is shooting .182 and Ainge is at .133 (after going 0-9 last season). The three of them have COMBINED to average 4.1 assists per game in 37.2 combined minutes to go along with 3 turnovers (Merrill averages that many assists by himself in fewer minutes), for an A/TO ratio of 1.25 (for comparison's sake, the current NCAA leader has an A/TO ratio of 8.83, the maligned Marcel Davis had a ratio of 1.86, and a bench warmer like Viko Noma'aea had a ratio of 1.50; Merrill's is 2.14). And Ainge is actually getting MORE fouls per 40 minutes in conference play than Queta (5.7 to 4.8). While I do think Ainge is "scrappy" and he has looked better this season than last, I don't think we can count on any of these three to lead this team next season without significant improvements. I think Smith has been a miracle worker to get the wins he has from this team despite poor PG play. Given Smith's prodigious coaching skills, I suppose it is entirely possible he could turn one or more of these player into productive D1 players, but I am not optimistic given what I have seen.

MetsJetsAggies wrote:Also agree wholeheartedly with the PG stuff. Even a Shane Rector would transform this team, or a Brockeith Pane type. It is 100% holding us back and there doesn't seem to be an easy solution. The guys we have are keeping us afloat, but it's going to pose a problem if we have any hope to win close, tougher games or somehow make the tournament.

I really think this team looked pretty lethal with JK3 semi running point, or at least guarding the point. No one on our team can play the 1 offensively, or defensively outside of Sam and JK3 IMO. TK has shown flashes but is very inconsistent. Brito is OK too but also offensively challenged and defensively matches up better on a wing, which is OK when Sam is on the floor to guard a PG.

IF JK3 can get his act together, I like our chances against anyone. He provides speed, defense, and can get to the rim better than anyone other than Sam. We are missing his play on both ends right now when you consider how much time we have to use Ainge/Porter at the point, and no depth behind Sam really either

ChicAggie wrote: ↑

January 6th, 2019, 2:05 pm

I have been looking at the Per 100 Possession and Advanced Stats for the Ags so far this season and during conference play and see some interesting numbers: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/sc ... /2019.html

Not surprisingly the obvious Aggie cream has risen to the top as the season has progressed, with the one notable surprise being Justin Bean (albeit in limited action - only 64 minutes so far, the 2nd fewest minutes on the team ahead of only Alek Johnson).

In limited minutes, Bean has the highest Net Rating on the season and in the Aggie's two conference games so far. He seems to be our Dennis Rodman: not the most gifted offensive player, but his activity has been amazing and he absolutely wins the GATA belt for the season to date. He leads the team in PER (Player Efficiency Rating) at 34.3 (Merrill is 2nd at 25.1); ORtg (points produced per 100 possessions) at 137 (Merrill is 2nd at 132); DRtg (points allowed per 100 possessions) at 80 (Queta is 2nd at 82.7); NetRtg (the difference between ORtg and DRtg) at 57 (Merrill is 2nd at 37.7); plus/minus at 14.3 (Queta is 2nd at 10.2); Win Shares/40 at .335 (Merrill is 2nd at .268); rebounds per 100 possessions with 29.2 TRB (Queta is 2nd with 19.2 TRB); and steals per 100 possessions at 4.3 (JK3 is 2nd at 3.7). He is 2nd on the team in fewest turnovers per 100 possessions at 1.7 (Miller is 1st at 1.0); blocks per 100 possessions at 1.7 (Queta is 1st at 5.6); and free throw attempts per 100 possessions at 8.6 (JK3 is 1st at 11). He is also 5th on the team in FG% at .500 (behind Queta, Brown, Taylor, and Merrill). Not sure what happens to these numbers with increased playing time, but he has gotten real minutes against starters in the past couple of games (23 minutes - which is more than Ainge, TK, Fakira, and Johnson and nearly the same as Brown and Brito), and his numbers have stayed at or near the top of the pack in every one of these categories.

Miller has come around nicely over the past several games, and is actually 2nd on the team behind Bean in Net Rating after two conference games. Despite defenses focused on shutting down Merrill, he remains an extremely positive force for the Ags with a plus 19.8 Net Rating after two conference games. And though Queta needs to learn how to stay on the court for longer stretches, he has been a force in the middle and a model of efficiency in scoring down low. While Quinn struggled against Nevada, his output against AF was the X factor. Given his consistent production for the Ags for years, I expect him to continue to shine. In his four seasons in an Aggie uniform, Taylor has had a positive plus/minus number every season and is fourth on the team this season at +7.5 behind only Bean (+14.3), Queta (+10.2), and Merrill (+8.9). Behind Taylor, the dropoff is fairly significant: Brown at +3.1.

The biggest concern so far is that our PG play has been historically brutal: in my opinion easily the worst in the modern history of Aggie basketball (at least in my own history of watching the Aggies starting in 1978). Each of Ainge, Porter, and TK have struggled mightily on the season -- and two games into conference play, production from the PG position has been even worse than it was in the OOC schedule. In two conference games the NetRtg for the three PGs has been crazy bad: -96.3 for TK, -77.8 for Ainge, and -26.6 for Porter. Player Efficiency Ratings have been similarly awful: -12.0 for TK, -8.2 for Ainge, and +4.9 for Porter (again, 15.0 is AVERAGE). Both TK and Ainge have NEGATIVE win shares during conference play and Porter's is a pitiful .006/40. None of them can hit a 3P shot to save their lives. For the season, Porter sits at .214 3P%, TK is shooting .182 and Ainge is at .133 (after going 0-9 last season). The three of them have COMBINED to average 4.1 assists per game in 37.2 combined minutes to go along with 3 turnovers (Merrill averages that many assists by himself in fewer minutes), for an A/TO ratio of 1.25 (for comparison's sake, the current NCAA leader has an A/TO ratio of 8.83, the maligned Marcel Davis had a ratio of 1.86, and a bench warmer like Viko Noma'aea had a ratio of 1.50; Merrill's is 2.14). And Ainge is actually getting MORE fouls per 40 minutes in conference play than Queta (5.7 to 4.8). While I do think Ainge is "scrappy" and he has looked better this season than last, I don't think we can count on any of these three to lead this team next season without significant improvements. I think Smith has been a miracle worker to get the wins he has from this team despite poor PG play. Given Smith's prodigious coaching skills, I suppose it is entirely possible he could turn one or more of these player into productive D1 players, but I am not optimistic given what I have seen.

ChicAggie wrote: ↑

January 7th, 2019, 8:24 am

MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑

January 6th, 2019, 11:57 pm

ChicAggie wrote: ↑

January 6th, 2019, 2:05 pm

Not sure what happens to these numbers with increased playing time, but he has gotten real minutes against starters in the past couple of games (23 minutes - which is more than Ainge, TK, Fakira, and Johnson and nearly the same as Brown and Brito), and his numbers have stayed at or near the top of the pack in every one of these categories.

There is a section for conference per 40 minute and 100 possession stats, to get a better idea for how Bean has performed with increased minutes the past 2 games. Not quite as god-like, but still really solid

I don't mean to be a dick, but yeah, I made exactly the same point: "I have been looking at the Per 100 Possession and Advanced Stats for the Ags so far this season and during conference play . . . he has gotten real minutes against starters in the past couple of games (23 minutes - which is more than Ainge, TK, Fakira, and Johnson and nearly the same as Brown and Brito), and his numbers have stayed at or near the top of the pack in every one of these categories."

When I said "not sure what happens to these numbers with increased playing time," I meant I'm not sure what happens over an extended period of time -- not just two games.

EDIT: My original post originally included the cutouts of both Per 100 and Advanced stats for both the entire season and conference play, but I couldn't get them to attach, so I simply included the link instead.

MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑

January 7th, 2019, 11:25 pm

My bad, must have missed it!