No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

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No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by NowhereLandAggie » March 17th, 2019, 6:50 pm

BYU, Utah, nor UVU.



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by dogie » March 17th, 2019, 7:01 pm

I’m quite surprised about Fresno State. I thought Utah would also make it as the #3 team from the PAC-12. How that conference has fallen!



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by NowhereLandAggie » March 17th, 2019, 7:15 pm

dogie wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 7:01 pm
I’m quite surprised about Fresno State. I thought Utah would also make it as the #3 team from the PAC-12. How that conference has fallen!
Colorado did.

Upper Left

No. 1 UNC Greensboro
No. 2 NC State
No. 3 Georgetown
No. 4 Davidson
No. 5 Lipscomb
No. 6 Harvard
No. 7 Hofstra
No. 8 Campbell

Lower Left

No. 1 Indiana
No. 2 Clemson
No. 3 Furman
No. 4 Providence
No. 5 Arkansas
No. 6 Wichita State
No. 7 Wright State
No. 8 St. Francis

Upper Right

No. 1 Alabama
No. 2 Texas
No. 3 Xavier
No. 4 Colorado
No. 5 Dayton
No. 6 Toledo
No. 7 South Dakota State
No. 8 Norfolk State

Lower Right

No. 1 TCU
No. 2 Creighton
No. 3 Memphis
No. 4 Nebraska
No. 5 Butler
No. 6 San Diego
No. 7 Loyola-Chicago
No. 8 Sam Houston State



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by Snooks » March 17th, 2019, 7:18 pm

Wow, I thought Utah would make the NIT.



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by dogie » March 17th, 2019, 7:27 pm

How many of the 32 were automatic qualifiers as regular season conference champions?



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by hipsterdoofus21 » March 17th, 2019, 7:30 pm

San Diego made it over BYU?



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by ViAggie » March 17th, 2019, 7:35 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 7:30 pm
San Diego made it over BYU?
Uhm well they did beat them in the Wet Coat Closet semi’s


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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by JFWAggie » March 17th, 2019, 7:55 pm

NowhereLandAggie wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 7:15 pm
dogie wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 7:01 pm
I’m quite surprised about Fresno State. I thought Utah would also make it as the #3 team from the PAC-12. How that conference has fallen!
Colorado did.

Upper Left

No. 1 UNC Greensboro
No. 2 NC State
No. 3 Georgetown
No. 4 Davidson
No. 5 Lipscomb
No. 6 Harvard
No. 7 Hofstra
No. 8 Campbell

Lower Left

No. 1 Indiana
No. 2 Clemson
No. 3 Furman
No. 4 Providence
No. 5 Arkansas
No. 6 Wichita State
No. 7 Wright State
No. 8 St. Francis

Upper Right

No. 1 Alabama
No. 2 Texas
No. 3 Xavier
No. 4 Colorado
No. 5 Dayton
No. 6 Toledo
No. 7 South Dakota State
No. 8 Norfolk State

Lower Right

No. 1 TCU
No. 2 Creighton
No. 3 Memphis
No. 4 Nebraska
No. 5 Butler
No. 6 San Diego
No. 7 Loyola-Chicago
No. 8 Sam Houston State

East coast bias, two true western teams? Ncaa seedlings and their placement were also not right, western conferences need to get together and make this an issue, it’s ridiculous!



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by ProvoAggie » March 17th, 2019, 8:01 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 7:30 pm
San Diego made it over BYU?
San Diego was the 7th place team in the conference. They made it in over 3-6 and any MWC team. Doesn't really make a lot of sense.



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by aggies22 » March 17th, 2019, 8:04 pm

Is San Diego a typo and it should be San Diego State?



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by Chatman » March 17th, 2019, 8:08 pm

aggies22 wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 8:04 pm
Is San Diego a typo and it should be San Diego State?
I think this



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by freakboy » March 17th, 2019, 8:14 pm

No typo. It's San Diego.



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by Bank Shot » March 17th, 2019, 8:16 pm

This from SDSU forum:

This question illustrates the power of fan delusion. Our resume isn’t close to being NIT worthy. Unlike the NCAA tournament, the NIT doesn’t value games played in a three game tournament more than any other. There are two categories of teams in the NIT, automatic bids and at-large bids. All AB’s are regular season conference champions who failed to win their conference tournament. The remaining spots are allotted to ALB’s. ALB’s get in based mainly their NET ranking. So, participants are either judged by their dominance during conference play or by the entirety of their record. Bad teams have an easier path to the NCAA tournament than the NIT. The Aztecs have had a much better shot at the NCAA tournament for three years running.

The other tournaments are pay to play garbage fests. One only accepts teams from mid-major conferences, both are less than 15 years old, and neither possesses even a whiff of prestige:

•The College Basketball Invitational (CBI) is a men's college basketball tournament created in 2007 by The Gazelle Group. The inaugural tournament occurred after the conclusion of the 2007–08 men's college basketball regular season. The CBI selects 16 teams that are not selected for the NCAA Tournament or the National Invitation Tournament[1] (NIT), and who are willing to pay a $50,000 entry fee to participate.[2] In the CBI, [3] teams compete on home courts. The CBI is a single-elimination tournament until the final two teams are determined, after which the championship is determined by a championship series with a best-two-out-of-three format.

•The CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament (CIT) is an American men's college basketball post-season tournament created in 2009 by Collegeinsider.com. In 2012, it expanded to 32 participating teams. In 2016 and 2017 the tournament featured 26 teams. The 2018 tournament had 20 teams. The Tournament is oriented toward mid-major and small schools who did not get selected for the NCAA or NIT tournaments.

Read more: http://aztecmesa.proboards.com/thread/5 ... z5iUB1pQ8E
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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by JFWAggie » March 17th, 2019, 8:29 pm

Fresno net =80
San Diego= 97
???????



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by Bank Shot » March 17th, 2019, 8:33 pm

JFWAggie wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 8:29 pm
Fresno net =80
San Diego= 97
???????
And YBU 85? Maybe these schools turned down an invite??? There, by my count, were 9 automatic bids that went to champs or co-champs of their conferences.



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by dogie » March 17th, 2019, 8:35 pm

JFWAggie wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 8:29 pm
Fresno net =80
San Diego= 97
???????
And San Francisco was 74. The big outliers were Georgetown and San Diego. Otherwise, the at-large teams seem to track the NET reasonably well. There weren’t a lot of western teams who stood out this year. San Diego is surprising.



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CBI

Post by dogie » March 17th, 2019, 8:38 pm

The CIT has been set, and SUU will host a game.

The CBI has been announced, including UVU.

Both tournaments accept teams with losing records and it seems clear that a lot of schools aren’t interested. For example, West Virginia (14-20) is hosting a CBI first round game against Grand Canyon.

Here is an article about USF not being invited to the NIT and then stating home:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.sfexamin ... i-cit/amp/

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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by NowhereLandAggie » March 17th, 2019, 8:55 pm

Bank Shot wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 8:33 pm
JFWAggie wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 8:29 pm
Fresno net =80
San Diego= 97
???????
And YBU 85? Maybe these schools turned down an invite??? There, by my count, were 9 automatic bids that went to champs or co-champs of their conferences.
I would be somewhat surprised. Granted the NIT is not the NCAA tournament, but it is a fairly prestigious tournament. Schools like Georgetown, Texas, NC State, Clemson, and Alabama all accepted bids and didn't "big time" the tournament. About a month ago it looked like USU might end up in the NIT and considering the early expectations most were happy to be considered. You get to play at Madison Square Garden, and it isn't the worst consulation for an average to slightly above average season.



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 17th, 2019, 9:38 pm

Fresno state didnt turn it down. Their coach talked about being hopeful of an nit bid after losing to usu.



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by Aggie formerly in Hawaii » March 17th, 2019, 9:38 pm

San diego is a weird one. Other than that it isnt that surprising. Sdsu wasnt really good for most of the year.



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by OKAggie » March 17th, 2019, 9:42 pm

Quite surprised to see West Virginia and DePaul take bids -- usually the P6 consider anything less than an NIT bid beneath their station.


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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by Jjoey53 » March 17th, 2019, 10:18 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:San Diego made it over BYU?
They beat BYU like a drum.


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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by Usu0505 » March 17th, 2019, 10:28 pm

OKAggie wrote:Quite surprised to see West Virginia and DePaul take bids -- usually the P6 consider anything less than an NIT bid beneath their station.
Agreed. I can not believe Huggins is going to coach a CBI game.


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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by SLB » March 17th, 2019, 11:07 pm

Such BS, both were deserving.
San Diego State had 3 Q1 wins along having a 20 win season.
Fresno State had a good NET ranking, beat us on the road, and a record that was even better than San Diego State.
It is official that the NIT is a joke.



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Re: No NIT for Fresno or SDSU

Post by Imakeitrain » March 17th, 2019, 11:13 pm

You know who else is not in the NIT?????


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