Grad transfer: Nevada PG Jazz Johnson

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » April 10th, 2019, 7:26 pm

Just entered the transfer portal. Smith should be all over him. He is the type of Pg we need. Grad transfer with immediate eligibility.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 10th, 2019, 7:53 pm

Do you really think there’s a chance he comes here after all the racist chants he put up with in the Spectrum?

There’s no way he comes here though, right? If he did, I would welcome it. Just think there’s too much bad blood between the teams for him to consider it.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » April 10th, 2019, 8:05 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 7:53 pm
Do you really think there’s a chance he comes here after all the racist chants he put up with in the Spectrum?

There’s no way he comes here though, right?

I don’t know why he’s transferring. He probably wants to go a less racist place than Logan, maybe an SEC school In the heart of the south.

ThunderAggie · Post by **ThunderAggie** » April 10th, 2019, 8:14 pm

Out of all of the players that played good minutes this year for Nevada, I didn't mind Jazz Johnson and Trey Porter. The twins, Caroline, an Musselman were really the only "Butts" on the team. I actually think he would be a perfect fit and would help with the PG situation tremendously. If he wanted to be an Aggie, I would cheer for him. But, I doubt he comes here....although, where else would he get good playing time and be able to possibly make the tourney. He could probably only make a lower P5 team, so who knows...maybe he comes here! He could have loved the excitement and fans at the Spectrum and thought how he would like to be a key part in a program like USU.

Post by **ProvoAggie** » April 10th, 2019, 8:15 pm

Doesn't the Mountain West have a rule requiring players that transfer within the conference to sit out an extra year. I'm guessing he wouldn't be eligible immediately.

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slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » April 10th, 2019, 8:19 pm

If you bring in a grad transfer he needs to be better than porter. Of the few games I watched I didn’t think he was necessarily better, but I only saw a few games of him playing.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » April 10th, 2019, 8:22 pm

ProvoAggie wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 8:15 pm
Doesn't the Mountain West have a rule requiring players that transfer within the conference to sit out an extra year. I'm guessing he wouldn't be eligible immediately.

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For regular transfers yes, I don’t think you can restrict grad transfers but I could be dead wrong.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » April 10th, 2019, 8:23 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 8:19 pm
If you bring in a grad transfer he needs to be better than porter. Of the few games I watched I didn’t think he was necessarily better, but I only saw a few games of him playing.

He is better, especially offensively. Averaged 11 PPG and can create his own shot.

ThunderAggie · Post by **ThunderAggie** » April 10th, 2019, 8:31 pm

Madmartigan wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 8:23 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 8:19 pm
If you bring in a grad transfer he needs to be better than porter. Of the few games I watched I didn’t think he was necessarily better, but I only saw a few games of him playing.
He is better, especially offensively. Averaged 11 PPG and can create his own shot.

He also was being dominated by the ball hogging Martin twins and Caroline. I think he would thrive on a team like USU with other options that are good but not selfish.

Post by **aggies22** » April 10th, 2019, 8:33 pm

Madmartigan wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 8:22 pm

ProvoAggie wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 8:15 pm
Doesn't the Mountain West have a rule requiring players that transfer within the conference to sit out an extra year. I'm guessing he wouldn't be eligible immediately.

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For regular transfers yes, I don’t think you can restrict grad transfers but I could be dead wrong.

The only thing required of a graduate transfer is that he attends a school that offers a graduate program that his prior school does not offer. Inter-Conference movement is not restricted. In fact, it happens often within the PAC-12 in football.

Post by **aggies22** » April 10th, 2019, 8:34 pm

ThunderAggie wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 8:31 pm

Madmartigan wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 8:23 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 8:19 pm
If you bring in a grad transfer he needs to be better than porter. Of the few games I watched I didn’t think he was necessarily better, but I only saw a few games of him playing.
He is better, especially offensively. Averaged 11 PPG and can create his own shot.
He also was being dominated by the ball hogging Martin twins and Caroline. I think he would thrive on a team like USU with other options that are good but not selfish.

A facilitator that can score if/when needed, would be ideal.

sneed · Post by **sneed** » April 10th, 2019, 8:37 pm

I think this is one we should consider going after.

ThunderAggie · Post by **ThunderAggie** » April 10th, 2019, 8:40 pm

He may go to Arkansas with Muss. Also, Alfred and staff will be trying hard to talk him into staying so he may not even leave.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » April 10th, 2019, 8:45 pm

I would take him, but I don't think he'd do that to the Nevada fanbase. Seemed like a genuine competitor stuck on a team of divas.

ThunderAggie · Post by **ThunderAggie** » April 10th, 2019, 8:48 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 8:45 pm
I would take him, but I don't think he'd do that to the Nevada fanbase. Seemed like a genuine competitor stuck on a team of divas.

Just imagine the welcome he will get in Reno next year if he joins us......

JFWAggie · Post by **JFWAggie** » April 10th, 2019, 9:22 pm

This is not the PG we are looking for, I would be extremely disappointed if this is who we sign, I would put odds at 0%

Jjoey53 · Post by **Jjoey53** » April 10th, 2019, 11:38 pm

ProvoAggie wrote:Doesn't the Mountain West have a rule requiring players that transfer within the conference to sit out an extra year. I'm guessing he wouldn't be eligible immediately.

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Don’t think that applies to grad students, but not 100%.

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Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » April 11th, 2019, 7:36 am

JFWAggie wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 9:22 pm
This is not the PG we are looking for, I would be extremely disappointed if this is who we sign, I would put odds at 0%

Why is this not the PG we are looking for?

Post by **aggies22** » April 11th, 2019, 7:43 am

Nevada guard Jalen Harris has entered the transfer portal as well. This will be his second transfer. I believe he orginally began his career at Louisiana Tech.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » April 11th, 2019, 8:11 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 7:43 am
Nevada guard Jalen Harris has entered the transfer portal as well. This will be his second transfer. I believe he orginally began his career at Louisiana Tech.

Man will Nevada have anyone left when this is over?

ChicAggie · Post by **ChicAggie** » April 11th, 2019, 8:30 am

JFWAggie wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 9:22 pm
This is not the PG we are looking for, I would be extremely disappointed if this is who we sign, I would put odds at 0%

Yeah, you're exactly right. Why would we want a player who was 1st in the MWC in ORtg, 1st in NetRtg, 1st in TS%, 2nd in 3P%, 3rd in Offensive Plus/Minus, 3rd in FT%, 7th in Off Win Shares, 8th in Total Plus/Minus, 8th in 3P makes, 10th in Win Shares Per 40, and 11th in Total Win Shares? Yeah, he'd be a major disappointment and a huge step down from our current PG situation.

Pretty sure he's the ceiling of what we can get at this point.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 11th, 2019, 9:03 am

ChicAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 8:30 am

JFWAggie wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 9:22 pm
This is not the PG we are looking for, I would be extremely disappointed if this is who we sign, I would put odds at 0%
Yeah, you're exactly right. Why would we want a player who was 1st in the MWC in ORtg, 1st in NetRtg, 1st in TS%, 2nd in 3P%, 3rd in Offensive Plus/Minus, 3rd in FT%, 7th in Off Win Shares, 8th in Total Plus/Minus, 8th in 3P makes, 10th in Win Shares Per 40, and 11th in Total Win Shares? Yeah, he'd be a major disappointment and a huge step down from our current PG situation.

Pretty sure he's the ceiling of what we can get at this point.

Yup. Jazz would be a home run. I just have a really hard time seeing him wanting to come here after the bad blood between the teams this past year, but I guess you never know.

JFWAggie · Post by **JFWAggie** » April 11th, 2019, 9:13 am

ChicAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 8:30 am

JFWAggie wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 9:22 pm
This is not the PG we are looking for, I would be extremely disappointed if this is who we sign, I would put odds at 0%
Yeah, you're exactly right. Why would we want a player who was 1st in the MWC in ORtg, 1st in NetRtg, 1st in TS%, 2nd in 3P%, 3rd in Offensive Plus/Minus, 3rd in FT%, 7th in Off Win Shares, 8th in Total Plus/Minus, 8th in 3P makes, 10th in Win Shares Per 40, and 11th in Total Win Shares? Yeah, he'd be a major disappointment and a huge step down from our current PG situation.

Pretty sure he's the ceiling of what we can get at this point.

He is 5'10", what are his defensive stats, can he get to and finish at the rim, draw fouls, create for others?
I don't think these are his strengths, he is a good shooter.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » April 11th, 2019, 9:33 am

JFWAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 9:13 am

ChicAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 8:30 am

JFWAggie wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 9:22 pm
This is not the PG we are looking for, I would be extremely disappointed if this is who we sign, I would put odds at 0%
Yeah, you're exactly right. Why would we want a player who was 1st in the MWC in ORtg, 1st in NetRtg, 1st in TS%, 2nd in 3P%, 3rd in Offensive Plus/Minus, 3rd in FT%, 7th in Off Win Shares, 8th in Total Plus/Minus, 8th in 3P makes, 10th in Win Shares Per 40, and 11th in Total Win Shares? Yeah, he'd be a major disappointment and a huge step down from our current PG situation.

Pretty sure he's the ceiling of what we can get at this point.
He is 5'10", what are his defensive stats, can he get to and finish at the rim, draw fouls, create for others?
I don't think these are his strengths, he is a good shooter.

I think the overall offensive efficiency numbers take into account scoring and several other metrics including assists and drawing fouls. There is so much more to this guy than "he's 5'10" and a good shooter."

oleblu111 · Post by **oleblu111** » April 11th, 2019, 9:37 am

we should be thrilled if we could sign him, keep in mind Nevada did not play team basketball, more one on one stuff which was their weakness.

aggiesdotcom · Post by **aggiesdotcom** » April 11th, 2019, 9:45 am

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 9:03 am

ChicAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 8:30 am

JFWAggie wrote: ↑
April 10th, 2019, 9:22 pm
This is not the PG we are looking for, I would be extremely disappointed if this is who we sign, I would put odds at 0%
Yeah, you're exactly right. Why would we want a player who was 1st in the MWC in ORtg, 1st in NetRtg, 1st in TS%, 2nd in 3P%, 3rd in Offensive Plus/Minus, 3rd in FT%, 7th in Off Win Shares, 8th in Total Plus/Minus, 8th in 3P makes, 10th in Win Shares Per 40, and 11th in Total Win Shares? Yeah, he'd be a major disappointment and a huge step down from our current PG situation.

Pretty sure he's the ceiling of what we can get at this point.
Yup. Jazz would be a home run. I just have a really hard time seeing him wanting to come here after the bad blood between the teams this past year, but I guess you never know.

In the end was there really bad blood or was it a case of Musselman and his seniors completely self destructing? We certainly played a part in that but it wasn't due to any animosity on our end.

BioAggie · Post by **BioAggie** » April 11th, 2019, 11:35 am

Jazz can play ball, but he is a flopper, I don't like floppers...

oleblu111 · Post by **oleblu111** » April 11th, 2019, 11:54 am

BioAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 11:35 am
Jazz can play ball, but he is a flopper, I don't like floppers...

You do not like Sam because he spends a lot of time falling on the floor ?

ChicAggie · Post by **ChicAggie** » April 11th, 2019, 12:50 pm

JFWAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 9:13 am
He is 5'10", what are his defensive stats, can he get to and finish at the rim, draw fouls, create for others? I don't think these are his strengths, he is a good shooter.

All I know is with those numbers, he helps his teams win games. The Plus/Minus, Win Share, and Net Rating numbers -- which are among the best in the league -- take defensive impact into account, and his Defensive Rating number is solid. I certainly don't expect it to happen, but I would be absolutely thrilled if we could somehow get Jazz into an Aggie uniform.

He would become the Utah (State) Jazz.

Mr. Sneelock · Post by **Mr. Sneelock** » April 11th, 2019, 1:00 pm

oleblu111 wrote:
BioAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 11:35 am
Jazz can play ball, but he is a flopper, I don't like floppers...
You do not like Sam because he spends a lot of time falling on the floor ?

Everyone hates floppers....if they also play for the other team.

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BioAggie · Post by **BioAggie** » April 11th, 2019, 1:39 pm

oleblu111 wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 11:54 am

BioAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 11:35 am
Jazz can play ball, but he is a flopper, I don't like floppers...
You do not like Sam because he spends a lot of time falling on the floor ?

There is a difference between going hard and falling and falling because the player breathed on you and you want the ref to give you a foul. And yes, I hate it when our players do it too, Koby did it all the time and I didn't like it.

brownjeans · Post by **brownjeans** » April 11th, 2019, 1:58 pm

Defenders have to flop in basketball because the rules favor the offensive player so much that if the defender doesn't flop he has no chance to get the call.
Offensive players who flop should be ashamed of themselves.

ChicAggie · Post by **ChicAggie** » April 11th, 2019, 2:28 pm

BioAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 1:39 pm
Koby did it all the time and I didn't like it.

Ahh, more unsubstantiated Koby-bashing. Will it never end?

oleblu111 · Post by **oleblu111** » April 11th, 2019, 3:00 pm

ChicAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 2:28 pm

BioAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 1:39 pm
Koby did it all the time and I didn't like it.
Ahh, more unsubstantiated Koby-bashing. Will it never end?

No it will not end.

I believe that Sam flop's more than any player I have ever seen, but he gets a pass. Koby did what Tim wanted him to do, he is a good kid that played for a terrible coach.

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » April 11th, 2019, 3:10 pm

oleblu111 wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 3:00 pm

ChicAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 2:28 pm

BioAggie wrote: ↑
April 11th, 2019, 1:39 pm
Koby did it all the time and I didn't like it.
Ahh, more unsubstantiated Koby-bashing. Will it never end?
No it will not end.

I believe that Sam flop's more than any player I have ever seen, but he gets a pass. Koby did what Tim wanted him to do, he is a good kid that played for a terrible coach.

This is spot on and one of the best and smartest things I've heard you say. Flopping is part of game strategy: hate it when the other team does it well, love it when yours does.

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