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My commenting record here is consistent: no one is out to get us, yes, some refs are better than others. Officials don't cost us games. We do it to ourselves.
But tonight? How does one guy, playing on the perimeter with a penchant of not committing fouls, get called with four fouls in five minutes?
But tonight? How does one guy, playing on the perimeter with a penchant of not committing fouls, get called with four fouls in five minutes?
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While the other team presses all game and gets very few.
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Yeah, the whole first half they let everything go and then decided to call everything the whole 2nd half. College basketball has a lot to address IMO. Between the inconsistencies and dumb reviews stopping the game for 15 minutes for flagrant fouls and other crap that no one used to bat an eye at and hand check rules that change from half to half.
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Now you're starting to see things my way!FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:18 pmMy commenting record here is consistent: no one is out to get us, yes, some refs are better than others. Officials don't cost us games. We do it to ourselves.
But tonight? How does one guy, playing on the perimeter with a penchant of not committing fouls, get called with four fouls in five minutes?
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The way they call fouls a limit of 5 is too low. They rack up fouls then realize they can’t foul 5 guys out and swallow whistles. Makes for disjointed games.
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Queta reached and then the guy grabbed and hooked? Doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:29 pmAlso....how was there a foul on Queta yet a flagrant on them!?
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I mean yeah he reached a little but didn't seem like he really even touched him. Although I could be wrong...Intermeddler wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:29 pmQueta reached and then the guy grabbed and hooked? Doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:29 pmAlso....how was there a foul on Queta yet a flagrant on them!?
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The officials weren't men enough to admit they were wrong, so rather than rescind the foul on Neemias, they let that stand and tacked on the foul on Jackson.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:29 pmAlso....how was there a foul on Queta yet a flagrant on them!?
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Definitely seemed minimal. Probably a no call if his arm doesn’t get hooked. My biggest complaint is guys who do stuff that is unnatural just to get calls and then get rewarded.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:32 pmI mean yeah he reached a little but didn't seem like he really even touched him. Although I could be wrong...Intermeddler wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:29 pmQueta reached and then the guy grabbed and hooked? Doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:29 pmAlso....how was there a foul on Queta yet a flagrant on them!?
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I could be wrong but they can’t review fouls. The review was for the NM player.aggies22 wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:33 pmThe officials weren't men enough to admit they were wrong, so rather than rescind the foul on Neemias, they let that stand and tacked on the foul on Jackson.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:29 pmAlso....how was there a foul on Queta yet a flagrant on them!?
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At one point both coaches were yelling for fouls at the sane time. When neither coach is happy it seems inconsistent
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Admittedly, I'm not sure how that works but it was Jackson who initiated the contact in the first place.Elkaggie wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:37 pmI could be wrong but they can’t review fouls. The review was for the NM player.aggies22 wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:33 pmThe officials weren't men enough to admit they were wrong, so rather than rescind the foul on Neemias, they let that stand and tacked on the foul on Jackson.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:29 pmAlso....how was there a foul on Queta yet a flagrant on them!?
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Refs were garbage. I usually don't get on refs, but tonight was bad. Did they show the review of brito's fast break layup on tv that was blocked? It looked like it was blocked after hit the backboard. At least it appeared that way from my angle at the game.
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Refs were truly horrendous, I'm shocked we won the game. But that Brito layup I think was blocked right as it hit the backboardAggie84025 wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:50 pmRefs were garbage. I usually don't get on refs, but tonight was bad. Did they show the review of brito's fast break layup on tv that was blocked? It looked like it was blocked after hit the backboard. At least it appeared that way from my angle at the game.
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About 4 minutes into the game, Porter lost the ball after dribbling it off a UNM defender's foot. It should have been a kick ball but nothing was called. Less than 2 minutes later, UNM threw up a high pass to the corner. The receiving player jumped up and had to rotate to catch the pass. They came down with their toe over the line. It should have been out-of-bounds but nothing was called. USU had something similar happen a few plays later and (Miller?) came down with his heel on the line. Again, nothing was called.
It was too early to tell if foul calls would be consistent, but I knew that both teams were in for some rough officiating when the refs couldn't even enforce the basic rules. So frustrating to watch...
It was too early to tell if foul calls would be consistent, but I knew that both teams were in for some rough officiating when the refs couldn't even enforce the basic rules. So frustrating to watch...
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I don’t really get it. The refs were so bad for the first 33 minutes or so of the game and New Mexico was getting all of the calls.
Then the last 7 minutes or so it finally even out and usu started getting the calls they weren’t getting all game.
Makes no sense to me.
Then the last 7 minutes or so it finally even out and usu started getting the calls they weren’t getting all game.
Makes no sense to me.
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Box Score shows 21 PF for each team. Play by Play shows 1 foul in last 7:32 on US and 6 on NM. That would mean in the first 32:28 it was 20-15 which isn't extremely one-sided.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 11:11 pmI don’t really get it. The refs were so bad for the first 33 minutes or so of the game and New Mexico was getting all of the calls.
Then the last 7 minutes or so it finally even out and usu started getting the calls they weren’t getting all game.
Makes no sense to me.
Interesting note - PbP in espn.com shows that US had 2 fouls called in the final 10:28 - Miller and the Queta double-foul thing.
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Let's not forget when Merrill was bulldozed in the first half and they called it out of bounds on him instead of a foul. After that, NM hits a three and the momentum shifted their way.
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The intentional really worked out for us. Yes it was a bad call and should have just been a foul on UNM but because everyone was calling for a Flagrant 1 on Quetta and wanted a review they saw it was a bad call and it was UNM that hooked and didn’t let go.
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He got mauled on a drive and Queta picked up foul #3 reaching for the loose ball too.
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In the replay i watched it indeed bounced off the backboard and then got blocked, someone in chat claimed that it wasn’t above the rim, which negates a goaltend?Aggie84025 wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:50 pmRefs were garbage. I usually don't get on refs, but tonight was bad. Did they show the review of brito's fast break layup on tv that was blocked? It looked like it was blocked after hit the backboard. At least it appeared that way from my angle at the game.
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They can review the flagrant hooking foul then take away the other plates foul if he wasn’t the one hooking I believeElkaggie wrote:I could be wrong but they can’t review fouls. The review was for the NM player.aggies22 wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:33 pmThe officials weren't men enough to admit they were wrong, so rather than rescind the foul on Neemias, they let that stand and tacked on the foul on Jackson.ThunderAggie wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:29 pmAlso....how was there a foul on Queta yet a flagrant on them!?
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this is what i found on the rule: When the ball contacts the backboard and any part of the ball is above the rim during a field goal attempt, it is considered to be on its downward flight.In such a case, it is goaltending when the ball is touched by a player as long as it has a possibility of entering the basketMrBiggle wrote: ↑March 6th, 2020, 3:30 pmIn the replay i watched it indeed bounced off the backboard and then got blocked, someone in chat claimed that it wasn’t above the rim, which negates a goaltend?Aggie84025 wrote: ↑March 5th, 2020, 10:50 pmRefs were garbage. I usually don't get on refs, but tonight was bad. Did they show the review of brito's fast break layup on tv that was blocked? It looked like it was blocked after hit the backboard. At least it appeared that way from my angle at the game.
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In the officiating world we say if both coaches are mad we did our job.frankiesaysrelax wrote:At one point both coaches were yelling for fouls at the sane time. When neither coach is happy it seems inconsistent
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This was the key last night. They just weren't very good plain and simple. I just want to see a consistent game called for 40 minutes. This game was strange. We committed 21 fouls but 10 of them happened in the first 8 minutes of the second half, four of those on Sam.
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Sam has developed this "fall down" move every time he takes a shot inside. He started doing it last year and got some calls out of it. But the refs are not calling it any more and Sam needs to knock it off, if not because its not effective, because of the wear and tear on his body that he doesn't need to absorb any more.
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Sam did not go into the half with zero fouls.pilotaggie wrote:This was the key last night. They just weren't very good plain and simple. I just want to see a consistent game called for 40 minutes. This game was strange. We committed 21 fouls but 10 of them happened in the first 8 minutes of the second half, four of those on Sam.
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Sam did have zero fouls in the first half. I don’t think the refs were biased, but I do think they sucked. In the first half you could practically murder someone. Sam and Bean both got nailed multiple times with no calls. Then in the second half suddenly everything was foul. Calling four fouls on Sam within five minutes was ridiculous, especially given the beating he took in the first half. Consistency is the key.
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He had zero fouls at halftime. Five minutes later he had four fouls.TheAKAggie wrote: ↑March 6th, 2020, 6:07 pmSam did not go into the half with zero fouls.pilotaggie wrote:This was the key last night. They just weren't very good plain and simple. I just want to see a consistent game called for 40 minutes. This game was strange. We committed 21 fouls but 10 of them happened in the first 8 minutes of the second half, four of those on Sam.
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His first foul was 8 seconds into second half.
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