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Re: Coaching Candidates

Post by Aggie84025 » November 8th, 2020, 8:17 am

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The Helfrich and Rich Rod hires seem to me to be high risk, low reward moves for us. They seem to come with a high risk of failure (because they have failed elsewhere with more resources at their disposal), and low reward, because if successful we know either would jump ship when their image is repaired at the first opportunity that greener pastures are available.

I don’t want to be the school P5 washouts use to repair their image. Up and comers please.
Not to mention they are currently not coaching. I think Rich Rod was more successful and built something for longer. Helfrich seems like he road the coattails of Kelly at Oregon.



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Re: Coaching Candidates

Post by slcagg » November 8th, 2020, 10:13 am

Aggie84025 wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 8:17 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 8:02 am
The Helfrich and Rich Rod hires seem to me to be high risk, low reward moves for us. They seem to come with a high risk of failure (because they have failed elsewhere with more resources at their disposal), and low reward, because if successful we know either would jump ship when their image is repaired at the first opportunity that greener pastures are available.

I don’t want to be the school P5 washouts use to repair their image. Up and comers please.
Not to mention they are currently not coaching. I think Rich Rod was more successful and built something for longer. Helfrich seems like he road the coattails of Kelly at Oregon.
I think after Gary we will be more apt to go after a coach that is motivated to prove himself at the next level. Not a sunrise like rich rod. Kind of a repeat of what Gary was.



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Re: Coaching Candidates

Post by Aggie84025 » November 8th, 2020, 11:57 am

slcagg wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 10:13 am
Aggie84025 wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 8:17 am
ineptimusprime wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 8:02 am
The Helfrich and Rich Rod hires seem to me to be high risk, low reward moves for us. They seem to come with a high risk of failure (because they have failed elsewhere with more resources at their disposal), and low reward, because if successful we know either would jump ship when their image is repaired at the first opportunity that greener pastures are available.

I don’t want to be the school P5 washouts use to repair their image. Up and comers please.
Not to mention they are currently not coaching. I think Rich Rod was more successful and built something for longer. Helfrich seems like he road the coattails of Kelly at Oregon.
I think after Gary we will be more apt to go after a coach that is motivated to prove himself at the next level. Not a sunrise like rich rod. Kind of a repeat of what Gary was.
I agree lets get someone who is on the up not someone who was, but then fell and is trying to get back. I cant imagine there will be too many openings with covid so we may get more candidates that are interested in the job.



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Re: Coaching Candidates

Post by Madmartigan » November 8th, 2020, 1:24 pm

Unless the retreads last names are: Meyer, Swinney, or Saban.. I'm not interested.



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Re: Coaching Candidates

Post by OrangeCountyAggie » November 8th, 2020, 1:35 pm

Madmartigan wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 1:24 pm
Unless the retreads last names are: Meyer, Swinney, or Saban.. I'm not interested.
Or Peterson



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Re: Coaching Candidates

Post by Chod » November 8th, 2020, 3:58 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 1:35 pm
Madmartigan wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 1:24 pm
Unless the retreads last names are: Meyer, Swinney, or Saban.. I'm not interested.
Or Peterson
... or Harbaugh



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Post by Madmartigan » November 8th, 2020, 4:11 pm

Chod wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 3:58 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 1:35 pm
Madmartigan wrote:
November 8th, 2020, 1:24 pm
Unless the retreads last names are: Meyer, Swinney, or Saban.. I'm not interested.
Or Peterson
... or Harbaugh
You haven’t been watching Michigan since he took over? Disappointing results for what should be a blue blood program.



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Re: Coaching Candidates

Post by taniataylor » November 9th, 2020, 8:32 am

Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
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Post by BleedAggieBlue0 » November 9th, 2020, 8:34 am

taniataylor wrote:Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
I would argue that his side of the ball has been the worst part of the team since he’s been here. So that’s a big reason for me.


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Re: Coaching Candidates

Post by MWCFAN12 » November 9th, 2020, 8:34 am

taniataylor wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:32 am
Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
He can. And he very well may.



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Post by USU78 » November 9th, 2020, 8:42 am

One doesn't simply grasp and pay top dollar for low hanging fruit in a buyer's market.
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Post by 2004AG » November 9th, 2020, 8:45 am

taniataylor wrote:Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
Because he stands there like a bump on a log on the sidelines.

I know a Utah high school coach very well that Frank recruits at and he says he has no personality, zero charisma. Frank is about worst case scenario.


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Post by KissMyAg » November 9th, 2020, 8:54 am

taniataylor wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:32 am
Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
I think he should be heavily considered. One issue is when he coached the bowl game two years ago the team was a bit undisciplined.



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Post by slcagg » November 9th, 2020, 9:01 am

2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:45 am
taniataylor wrote:Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
Because he stands there like a bump on a log on the sidelines.

I know a Utah high school coach very well that Frank recruits at and he says he has no personality, zero charisma. Frank is about worst case scenario.


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I don’t know frank at all. But we’ve always heard how much the players love him. Doesn’t mean it’s true or that makes him a great head coach alone. But we have always heard how much he is loved.



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Post by slcagg » November 9th, 2020, 9:02 am

KissMyAg wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:54 am
taniataylor wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:32 am
Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
I think he should be heavily considered. One issue is when he coached the bowl game two years ago the team was a bit undisciplined.
And won by about 50 points 😁.



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Post by jeffdan25 » November 9th, 2020, 9:04 am

2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:45 am
taniataylor wrote:Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
Because he stands there like a bump on a log on the sidelines.

I know a Utah high school coach very well that Frank recruits at and he says he has no personality, zero charisma. Frank is about worst case scenario.


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Is this a sarcastic comment? Frank has been one of the best recruiters we have had at USU along with Stacey Collins. I know several former and current players, their favorite coach is Frank. Also to the comments that he shouldn't be the head coach because he hasn't been hugely successful as a coordinator is ridiculous! That has zero baring on weather or not someone will be a successful head coach.



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Re: Coaching Candidates

Post by 2004AG » November 9th, 2020, 9:04 am

Anybody think Morgan Scalley gets a look? Or too soon ?


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Post by slcagg » November 9th, 2020, 9:05 am

2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:04 am
Anybody think Morgan Scalley gets a look? Or too soon ?


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Too soon.
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Re: Coaching Candidates

Post by taniataylor » November 9th, 2020, 9:18 am

jeffdan25 wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:04 am
2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:45 am
taniataylor wrote:Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
Because he stands there like a bump on a log on the sidelines.

I know a Utah high school coach very well that Frank recruits at and he says he has no personality, zero charisma. Frank is about worst case scenario.


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Is this a sarcastic comment? Frank has been one of the best recruiters we have had at USU along with Stacey Collins. I know several former and current players, their favorite coach is Frank. Also to the comments that he shouldn't be the head coach because he hasn't been hugely successful as a coordinator is ridiculous! That has zero baring on weather or not someone will be a successful head coach.
Jordan told me Coach Maile makes it his business to know all the players....
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Post by taniataylor » November 9th, 2020, 9:23 am

Maile has stuck it out through alot and has been passed up: he brought the team through a bowl game that we Won, by alot. He has the respect of his players and recruits. He would be the continuity that was mentioned in another post.
Stability is big for the team and the school
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Post by slcagg » November 9th, 2020, 9:25 am

taniataylor wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:18 am
jeffdan25 wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:04 am
2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:45 am
taniataylor wrote:Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
Because he stands there like a bump on a log on the sidelines.

I know a Utah high school coach very well that Frank recruits at and he says he has no personality, zero charisma. Frank is about worst case scenario.


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Is this a sarcastic comment? Frank has been one of the best recruiters we have had at USU along with Stacey Collins. I know several former and current players, their favorite coach is Frank. Also to the comments that he shouldn't be the head coach because he hasn't been hugely successful as a coordinator is ridiculous! That has zero baring on weather or not someone will be a successful head coach.
Jordan told me Coach Maile makes it his business to know all the players....
This is a great trait as a person. However there need to be additional traits as well which I’m not the judge of frank in that as I don’t know him. However some of the greatest coaches you may not consider a player best friend. And some of the best also have the trait you referenced.



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Post by hickaggie » November 9th, 2020, 9:28 am

taniataylor wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:32 am
Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.

He's probably about in as enviable position as anyone. He gets a 5 game trial to see if he can turn the team around a litte bit with 3 of the toughest games already out of the way. If he were somehow to go on a winning streak it would be hard not to seriously consider him.



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Post by 2004AG » November 9th, 2020, 9:31 am

jeffdan25 wrote:
2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:45 am
taniataylor wrote:Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
Because he stands there like a bump on a log on the sidelines.

I know a Utah high school coach very well that Frank recruits at and he says he has no personality, zero charisma. Frank is about worst case scenario.


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Is this a sarcastic comment? Frank has been one of the best recruiters we have had at USU along with Stacey Collins. I know several former and current players, their favorite coach is Frank. Also to the comments that he shouldn't be the head coach because he hasn't been hugely successful as a coordinator is ridiculous! That has zero baring on weather or not someone will be a successful head coach.
I don’t coach high school football in Utah but I know someone very well who does and he says Frank is not a good recruiter at all. FWIW.


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Post by GameFAQSAggie » November 9th, 2020, 9:38 am

hickaggie wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:28 am
taniataylor wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:32 am
Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.

He's probably about in as enviable position as anyone. He gets a 5 game trial to see if he can turn the team around a litte bit with 3 of the toughest games already out of the way. If he were somehow to go on a winning streak it would be hard not to seriously consider him.
Except for last Friday night showed the problem in our first two games was us, NOT the teams we were playing.



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Post by brownjeans » November 9th, 2020, 9:42 am

2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:45 am
taniataylor wrote:Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
Because he stands there like a bump on a log on the sidelines.

I know a Utah high school coach very well that Frank recruits at and he says he has no personality, zero charisma. Frank is about worst case scenario.
This cracks me up. Would Edwards ever be considered as HC in today's world? Yet he was an amazing HC.



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Post by KissMyAg » November 9th, 2020, 9:48 am

2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:04 am
Anybody think Morgan Scalley gets a look? Or too soon ?

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I’d be shocked if he got hired, I’ve listened to some of his interviews and he’s pretty immature. Plus the whole text thing is so sad, think about how much pain that caused.



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KissMyAg wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:48 am
2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:04 am
Anybody think Morgan Scalley gets a look? Or too soon ?

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I’d be shocked if he got hired, I’ve listened to some of his interviews and he’s pretty immature. Plus the whole text thing is so sad, think about how much pain that caused.
I would be shocked if he is considered. That’s the last thing we need right now. Another controversial hire.



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Post by AgMan21 » November 9th, 2020, 10:01 am

I think I wouldn't mind Maile as the head coach if he had a good to great OC and DC supporting him.



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Post by aggies22 » November 9th, 2020, 10:05 am

2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:31 am
jeffdan25 wrote:
2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:45 am
taniataylor wrote:Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
Because he stands there like a bump on a log on the sidelines.

I know a Utah high school coach very well that Frank recruits at and he says he has no personality, zero charisma. Frank is about worst case scenario.


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Is this a sarcastic comment? Frank has been one of the best recruiters we have had at USU along with Stacey Collins. I know several former and current players, their favorite coach is Frank. Also to the comments that he shouldn't be the head coach because he hasn't been hugely successful as a coordinator is ridiculous! That has zero baring on weather or not someone will be a successful head coach.
I don’t coach high school football in Utah but I know someone very well who does and he says Frank is not a good recruiter at all. FWIW.


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Strange. I've spoken with nearly every single signee over the last two years and nearly all of them were recruited by Frank or Stacy.
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Post by hvaggie » November 9th, 2020, 10:24 am

hickaggie wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:28 am
taniataylor wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:32 am
Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.

He's probably about in as enviable position as anyone. He gets a 5 game trial to see if he can turn the team around a litte bit with 3 of the toughest games already out of the way. If he were somehow to go on a winning streak it would be hard not to seriously consider him.
This.

There is nothing to be gained by finding a replacement in the next 5 weeks, assuming they even could. Maile will be given a chance to prove if he can do it or not with the current coaching staff. The recruits are his, no need to rebuild.



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Post by 3rdGenAggie » November 9th, 2020, 10:30 am

As someone who has never even put on a football helmet as part of a team, let alone played high level D1 football, how much overlap is there in the duties of a coordinator vs a head coach?


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Post by 2004AG » November 9th, 2020, 10:36 am

hvaggie wrote:
hickaggie wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:28 am
taniataylor wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:32 am
Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.

He's probably about in as enviable position as anyone. He gets a 5 game trial to see if he can turn the team around a litte bit with 3 of the toughest games already out of the way. If he were somehow to go on a winning streak it would be hard not to seriously consider him.
This.

There is nothing to be gained by finding a replacement in the next 5 weeks, assuming they even could. Maile will be given a chance to prove if he can do it or not with the current coaching staff. The recruits are his, no need to rebuild.
Oh, I think it’s monumentally important. The next coach needs to keep the current roster in tact and needs to start recruiting for next year.

Isn’t the first signing date in December ?


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Post by 2004AG » November 9th, 2020, 10:37 am

aggies22 wrote:
2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:31 am
jeffdan25 wrote:
2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 8:45 am
taniataylor wrote:Why cant Coach Maile be chosen? I dont understand.
Because he stands there like a bump on a log on the sidelines.

I know a Utah high school coach very well that Frank recruits at and he says he has no personality, zero charisma. Frank is about worst case scenario.


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Is this a sarcastic comment? Frank has been one of the best recruiters we have had at USU along with Stacey Collins. I know several former and current players, their favorite coach is Frank. Also to the comments that he shouldn't be the head coach because he hasn't been hugely successful as a coordinator is ridiculous! That has zero baring on weather or not someone will be a successful head coach.
I don’t coach high school football in Utah but I know someone very well who does and he says Frank is not a good recruiter at all. FWIW.


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Strange. I've spoken with nearly every single signee over the last two years and nearly all of them were recruited by Frank or Stacy.
That might be true but probably has more to do with quantity rather than quality.


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Post by newhouse9 » November 9th, 2020, 10:46 am

Frank may be a better head coach than he is a coordinator.
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Post by ViAggie » November 9th, 2020, 10:54 am

2004AG wrote:
November 9th, 2020, 9:04 am
Anybody think Morgan Scalley gets a look? Or too soon ?


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Too soon, especially if the rumors about the divisions within the locker room are true.


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