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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by Full » July 9th, 2019, 9:19 am

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isn't he the kid from Alta? I thought he was pretty good last year
now that you say this, i remember wondering why we didn't offer him in recruiting because he was so spectacular in high school. even with a roster full of RBs, i thought he'd be a great get.
It took the GA hire to offer Hunter Hill and Cooper Legas. I don’t think Wells prioritized the top Utah recruits and conceded them to the teams down south.



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aggies22 » July 9th, 2019, 9:35 am

Full wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 9:19 am
QuackAttackAggie wrote:
tipitup wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 8:30 pm
isn't he the kid from Alta? I thought he was pretty good last year
now that you say this, i remember wondering why we didn't offer him in recruiting because he was so spectacular in high school. even with a roster full of RBs, i thought he'd be a great get.
It took the GA hire to offer Hunter Hill and Cooper Legas. I don’t think Wells prioritized the top Utah recruits and conceded them to the teams down south.
This is true. Had it not been for Coach Andersen and his staff making Coop and Hunter priorities, Hunter would be a USC Trojan and Coop would likely be an Arkansas Razorback. We currently have committable offers out to 9 of the top 10 prospects in Utah. If I had to venture a guess, I would say 5 of the top 10 will go to bigger schools outside of the State of Utah.



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by Aggie84025 » July 9th, 2019, 1:18 pm

Wells did not do the best job of recruiting Utah especially skill positions in the state. I realize the state is not flush with great skill position players, but you have to make an effort. There is no reason Cooper and Hunter should not have been offered a year earlier.



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aceofspadeskb » July 9th, 2019, 1:42 pm

This one is laughable(and Scotty G agreed on air). Guarantee he's top 20 when they do the end of year re-rank. #1 returning receiver on Utah State with Jordan love throwing to him. Ridiculous.

Interesting though he is the first Utah State guy ranked better than his fan vote rank.

#38 - Jordan Nathan - WR - Utah State - #45 in fan vote
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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by Machismo » July 9th, 2019, 1:49 pm

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This one is laughable(and Scotty G agreed on air). Guarantee he's top 20 when they do the end of year re-rank. #1 returning receiver on Utah State with Jordan love throwing to him. Ridiculous.

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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by taniataylor » July 9th, 2019, 2:11 pm

aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 1:42 pm
This one is laughable(and Scotty G agreed on air). Guarantee he's top 20 when they do the end of year re-rank. #1 returning receiver on Utah State with Jordan love throwing to him. Ridiculous.

Interesting though he is the first Utah State guy ranked better than his fan vote rank.

#38 - Jordan Nathan - WR - Utah State - #45 in fan vote

I'm not surprised at all. I didnt think he was even going to rank as a WR, but I'm a proud MaMa just the same
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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by NVAggie » July 9th, 2019, 3:41 pm

At least he isn't a DB.
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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aggies22 » July 9th, 2019, 4:04 pm

taniataylor wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 2:11 pm
aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 1:42 pm
This one is laughable(and Scotty G agreed on air). Guarantee he's top 20 when they do the end of year re-rank. #1 returning receiver on Utah State with Jordan love throwing to him. Ridiculous.

Interesting though he is the first Utah State guy ranked better than his fan vote rank.

#38 - Jordan Nathan - WR - Utah State - #45 in fan vote

I'm not surprised at all. I didnt think he was even going to rank as a WR, but I'm a proud MaMa just the same
Jordan will have a much bigger year in 2019 now that he doesn't have to share reps with Aaren Vaughns and DJ Nelson.



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aceofspadeskb » July 10th, 2019, 2:09 pm

#37 - Mika Tafua - DE - Utah - #29 in fan vote



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by Elkaggie » July 10th, 2019, 2:58 pm

aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 10th, 2019, 2:09 pm
#37 - Mika Tafua - DE - Utah - #29 in fan vote
Didn’t we have a Tafua on our Dline in recent years? Are they related?



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aggies22 » July 10th, 2019, 3:15 pm

Elkaggie wrote:
July 10th, 2019, 2:58 pm
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July 10th, 2019, 2:09 pm
#37 - Mika Tafua - DE - Utah - #29 in fan vote
Didn’t we have a Tafua on our Dline in recent years? Are they related?
No. I'm willing to bet you are thinking of Siua Taufa. Not Tafua.



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by ChicAggie » July 10th, 2019, 3:44 pm

Curiously, my middle child LOVES tofu.
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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by USU78 » July 10th, 2019, 4:03 pm

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Curiously, my middle child LOVES tofu.
Tofu, kale & goat cheese on quinoa toast with apple slices and honey. I once ran over somebody who tried to convince me to eat one.
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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by Jjoey53 » July 10th, 2019, 5:02 pm

USU78 wrote:
ChicAggie wrote:
July 10th, 2019, 3:44 pm
Curiously, my middle child LOVES tofu.
Tofu, kale & goat cheese on quinoa toast with apple slices and honey. I once ran over somebody who tried to convince me to eat one.

Only thing edible out of all that are the apple slices.


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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by Elkaggie » July 10th, 2019, 8:47 pm

aggies22 wrote:
July 10th, 2019, 3:15 pm
Elkaggie wrote:
July 10th, 2019, 2:58 pm
aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 10th, 2019, 2:09 pm
#37 - Mika Tafua - DE - Utah - #29 in fan vote
Didn’t we have a Tafua on our Dline in recent years? Are they related?
No. I'm willing to bet you are thinking of Siua Taufa. Not Tafua.
Yes. Thanks for clarifying!



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by TheAKAggie » July 11th, 2019, 12:05 am

aggies22 wrote:
Elkaggie wrote:
July 10th, 2019, 2:58 pm
aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 10th, 2019, 2:09 pm
#37 - Mika Tafua - DE - Utah - #29 in fan vote
Didn’t we have a Tafua on our Dline in recent years? Are they related?
No. I'm willing to bet you are thinking of Siua Taufa. Not Tafua.
Cousin’s obviously.


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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aceofspadeskb » July 11th, 2019, 1:48 pm

#36 - DeMarie Simkins - WR - Utah - # in fan vote



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by slcagg » July 12th, 2019, 2:41 pm

#35-Dom Eberle

An interesting exercise to see what Utah’s all American kicker was ranked the last year he was at Utah.
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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aggies22 » July 12th, 2019, 7:00 pm

slcagg wrote:
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#35-Dom Eberle

An interesting exercise to see what Utah’s all American kicker was ranked the last year he was at Utah.
Probably top 10.



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by travelingagg » July 13th, 2019, 7:54 pm

aggies22 wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 7:00 pm
slcagg wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 2:41 pm
#35-Dom Eberle

An interesting exercise to see what Utah’s all American kicker was ranked the last year he was at Utah.
Probably top 10.
Matt Gay was ranked #8 last year. He was a "Consensus All-American" in 2017.
http://web.archive.org/web/201809011459 ... /60-in-60/


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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by slcagg » July 13th, 2019, 9:44 pm

travelingagg wrote:
July 13th, 2019, 7:54 pm
aggies22 wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 7:00 pm
slcagg wrote:
July 12th, 2019, 2:41 pm
#35-Dom Eberle

An interesting exercise to see what Utah’s all American kicker was ranked the last year he was at Utah.
Probably top 10.
Matt Gay was ranked #8 last year. He was a "Consensus All-American" in 2017.
http://web.archive.org/web/201809011459 ... /60-in-60/
So scarver was that last year on special teams, so I guess we’ll see for him.

And eberle that year was just behind him as a top 3 kicker.



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aceofspadeskb » July 15th, 2019, 1:45 pm

#34 - Brady Chrisianson - DB - BYU - #55 in fan vote



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aggies22 » July 15th, 2019, 2:01 pm

aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 15th, 2019, 1:45 pm
#34 - Brady Chrisianson - DB - BYU - #55 in fan vote
I love that he's an OL but STILL a DB! This is a kid who was poached at the last moments leading up to signing day from AIR FORCE!



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aceofspadeskb » July 16th, 2019, 2:37 pm

#33 - Zayne Anderson - DB - BYU - #36 in fan vote



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aggies22 » July 16th, 2019, 4:34 pm

aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 2:37 pm
#33 - Zayne Anderson - DB - BYU - #36 in fan vote
There must be some kind of mistake. Clearly he is better than David Woodward. They did get Anderson's position change correct though.



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by aceofspadeskb » July 16th, 2019, 4:38 pm

aggies22 wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 4:34 pm
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July 16th, 2019, 2:37 pm
#33 - Zayne Anderson - DB - BYU - #36 in fan vote
There must be some kind of mistake. Clearly he is better than David Woodward. They did get Anderson's position change correct though.
You've got it all wrong. The third column isn't their position, it's their calling in life.
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Post by aggies22 » July 16th, 2019, 4:55 pm

aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 4:38 pm
aggies22 wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 4:34 pm
aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 2:37 pm
#33 - Zayne Anderson - DB - BYU - #36 in fan vote
There must be some kind of mistake. Clearly he is better than David Woodward. They did get Anderson's position change correct though.
You've got it all wrong. The third column isn't their position, it's their calling in life.

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Post by slcagg » July 17th, 2019, 5:19 am

aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 2:37 pm
#33 - Zayne Anderson - DB - BYU - #36 in fan vote
Oh the guy who Hans says is a better player than tipa?



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by Full » July 17th, 2019, 10:24 am

slcagg wrote:
aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 2:37 pm
#33 - Zayne Anderson - DB - BYU - #36 in fan vote
Oh the guy who Hans says is a better player than tipa?
If it’s close the BYU-P player wins for Hans. He’s got to help energize the cougars in the preseason, because all they have left is preseason hype. I would pump BYU-P if my pay increased if I encouraged their irrational optimism.



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by travelingagg » July 17th, 2019, 11:45 am

Full wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 10:24 am
slcagg wrote:
aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 2:37 pm
#33 - Zayne Anderson - DB - BYU - #36 in fan vote
Oh the guy who Hans says is a better player than tipa?
If it’s close the BYU-P player wins for Hans. He’s got to help energize the cougars in the preseason, because all they have left is preseason hype. I would pump BYU-P if my pay increased if I encouraged their irrational optimism.
Did he really say that? His uncles would be disappointed in him.

Here are the players' side-by-side stats for 2018:
Zayne Anderson | Total tackles: 36 | Solo: 23 | Sacks: 0 | Forced Fumbles: 0 | Interceptions: 1 | YDS: 12
Tipa Galea'i | Total tackles: 64 | Solo: 30 | Sacks: 10.5 | Forced Fumbles: 3 | Interceptions 2 | YDS: 56
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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by Roy McAvoy » July 17th, 2019, 11:58 am

travelingagg wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 11:45 am
Full wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 10:24 am
slcagg wrote:
aceofspadeskb wrote:
July 16th, 2019, 2:37 pm
#33 - Zayne Anderson - DB - BYU - #36 in fan vote
Oh the guy who Hans says is a better player than tipa?
If it’s close the BYU-P player wins for Hans. He’s got to help energize the cougars in the preseason, because all they have left is preseason hype. I would pump BYU-P if my pay increased if I encouraged their irrational optimism.
Did he really say that? His uncles would be disappointed in him.

Here are the players' side-by-side stats for 2018:
Zayne Anderson | Total tackles: 36 | Solo: 23 | Sacks: 0 | Forced Fumbles: 0 | Interceptions: 1 | YDS: 12
Tipa Galea'i | Total tackles: 64 | Solo: 30 | Sacks: 10.5 | Forced Fumbles: 3 | Interceptions 2 | YDS: 56
Lol, come on. You're using total stats when Zayne Anderson only played in 4 games last year? And if you had no idea he only played 4 games, then how can you even make an argument if he is or isn't better than Galeai when you clearly know nothing about him?



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by Full » July 17th, 2019, 12:24 pm

travelingagg wrote:
“Full” wrote: If it’s close the BYU-P player wins for Hans. He’s got to help energize the cougars in the preseason, because all they have left is preseason hype. I would pump BYU-P if my pay increased if I encouraged their irrational optimism.
Did he really say that? His uncles would be disappointed in him.
No. However, he studies BYU-P and Utah inside and out and then watches USU (understandable because of his job). He also played for BYU. It’s nothing against him personally, he’s one of the few guys media guys that actually watches USU games. Here Hans talks about how he feels about the losses to USU starting at 10:00.

Listening to the last thee minutes of them talk about the situation BYU-P faces going forward makes me really hope they don’t look at joining a conference. They see being independent and having an ESPN contract as conflicting with reality of the financial commitment to their football program.



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Post by slcagg » July 17th, 2019, 12:32 pm

Hans listed the top 3 guys in the state per position yesterday in a tweet and then they discussed on the show. Tipa was not listed but that is because Hans thought he was dline. When asked if he was considered a linebacker he said his top 3 would be Woodward, Zayne Anderson and then tipa.



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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by YoungBloodAggie » July 17th, 2019, 12:47 pm

I am not often jealous of BYU in almost any regard, but I am very jealous of BYUSN. I wish we had something even remotely similar. Do we need to build our own studio and run our own TV station? No, but an hour of programming a week on KSL or KUTV would be great.


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Re: 1280: 60 in 60

Post by hickaggie » July 17th, 2019, 1:00 pm

slcagg wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 12:32 pm
Hans listed the top 3 guys in the state per position yesterday in a tweet and then they discussed on the show. Tipa was not listed but that is because Hans thought he was dline. When asked if he was considered a linebacker he said his top 3 would be Woodward, Zayne Anderson and then tipa.
Tipa is the best edge rusher in the State period. He is athletic against the run but he is a finesse guy who needs to operate out of a wider pass rush shade rather than head up or slight outside shade so he's also not a true 4 man DE who can squeeze the run. He's still good against the run though because of his freakish quickness to the backfield and the difficulty getting pads on him.

We are comparing apples and oranges here. He only dropped into a bit of flat coverage once in a while in the 3 3 5 and the way this hybrid 4-2-5 sounds he will probably do so even less. So if you are grouping true LBs playing off the line with read responsibilities or true lineman with their hand down I understand Hans point.

As far as talent and the impact level of his unique skills at a critical position I think he is a top 5 player in the state at least in terms of his importance to team success.



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