2004AG wrote:

Does he just not care?

I don't think he does. I think he is very "confident" in his abilities and is gonna do things his way.

MetsJetsAggies wrote:

2004AG wrote:

Does he just not care?

I don't think he does. I think he is very "confident" in his abilities and is gonna do things his way.

When we do end up hiring a new HC and staff, I hope we just roll with guys who were involved in the 2009-2013 Aggies for better or for worse. Idk if any of those guys are close to being coach material yet (Maile is probably the closest to being a HC-worthy candidate. Maybe Chuckie some day? Whimpey bro, Vigil bro, Doughty, etc?), but screw it let's get that culture back and go to war with that Utah State brand of football.

We thought Wells would be good because he's an Aggie and was here to help that rise in 2011/12, but man has he turned out to just not give a rats a** about what GA did to get us where we did in such a short amount of time after years of futility.

USU78 wrote:

40Aggie wrote:

USU78 wrote:There's a Soph DT at Box Elder, about 6'4 250, who started at DT this past fall. The last name is Madsen or something like that. Any thoughts on this kid? Very "low hanging fruit" if he's just across the Wellsvilles.

'78 the soph you speak of needs to develop some fire in his belly for the game, he needs a killer instinct, but he has all the tools to become great. I think Jordan Watson at Bear River is the real sleeper over the Wellsvilles. He was a late bloomer but is now 6'4" and 220lbs, because he developed so late he lacks some strength, but a college weight program would change that quickly. He has a motor that never quits and has extremely quick hands and feet. The knock on Jordan is that his nose guard and opposite tackle are beasts that ate up blocks allowing Jordan to get one on one matchups, so its unproven how he'd do against consistent double teams. The Watson kid is a guy GA would've gotten to walk-on based on his potential and transformed him into a monster.

http://www.hudl.com/video/3/2553823/582 ... 15a035e693

'40, I like the fierceness of this kid. I know it's 3A competition, but he's explosive and has nice upper body strength. Is he an OL possibility? Kinda doubt it, but what do I know. I like him at a non-rush DE spot for the Ags after he puts 50-60 lbs of muscle on.

Here's the linkie on Madson in Maxpreps: http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/tyson-m ... efault.htm

Sez here 6'5 310. A HS Soph is a soph is a soph. Get him in the weight room for his Jr, So, Fr years, as well as working on explosiveness and maximizing his speed and footwork, and you could have a real specimen on your hands.

***Kyle Whimpey*** wrote:Collin Larsen
Height - 6'2''
Weight - 250lbs
40 - 4.9
Vert - 28.6''
Bench - 355lbs
Squat - 465lbs

The first comment you will make is undersized. I will agree with you that he is at 6'2''. Who do we remember fondly who played the position at that height? Jamie Markosian 6'2'' 290lbs. Ask yourself if his height ever limited him or prevented him from becoming an all-conference player? Ask yourself if height ever got in the way of him handling his business against a top 5 draft pick in Star Loutulelei who had virtually no impact his last year in Logan when they were matched up head to head from start to finish. While the height is not ideal, the pedigree cannot be argued. Brother of Tyler Larsen (who we know did some serious work for the Aggies over the course of 4 years) are a lot the same. This is a young man who is currently being overlooked by division 1 programs and is about to obtain offers (but has not as of yet) from SUU and a few other D1AA schools.

Film: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3184797/collin-larsen

Con's
1. Height - 6'2'' and probably not getting any taller. While height does matter, it is not a "deal breaker" for an interior lineman.
2. Weight - While he is only 250lbs now, this is something that will change in the first 6 months of his participation in Coach Dave's Program.
3. First Step - This is an obvious flaw that can be coached out and will be on day one! Once it is, the only knock you can make is height.

Pro's
1. Violence at the point of attack.
2. Awareness of the second level on double teams.
3. Finish
4. Great Hands

Feedback from his brother Tyler Larsen. "He is getting overlooked just like I did. I have told Coach Wells about him a million times to no avail." In response to asking if Tyler would put his name on him he said, "absolutely he has a great mentality! This off-season he tore his whole knee up and worked his butt off to get back and played well! Yes I would put my name on him, he has the mentality we had, and loves the game of football."

Feedback from his High School Coach. "Collin is a guy with a lot of natural ability. He is overlooked because of his height. He was a leader on our team and was just like you would expect a Larsen to be. He is a hard worker and did more than I ever even thought to ask him to do which is what you want in a guy."

Mock this selection and you have effectively put your name in the running for public shaming when his Aggie career concludes. Mark my words, this is no doubt a young kid who has earned the opportunity and privilege to be an Aggie!

Kyle Whimpey
Utah State Recruiting Specialist
801.636.9164

AggiesForever wrote:

***Kyle Whimpey*** wrote:Collin Larsen
Height - 6'2''
Weight - 250lbs
40 - 4.9
Vert - 28.6''
Bench - 355lbs
Squat - 465lbs

The first comment you will make is undersized. I will agree with you that he is at 6'2''. Who do we remember fondly who played the position at that height? Jamie Markosian 6'2'' 290lbs. Ask yourself if his height ever limited him or prevented him from becoming an all-conference player? Ask yourself if height ever got in the way of him handling his business against a top 5 draft pick in Star Loutulelei who had virtually no impact his last year in Logan when they were matched up head to head from start to finish. While the height is not ideal, the pedigree cannot be argued. Brother of Tyler Larsen (who we know did some serious work for the Aggies over the course of 4 years) are a lot the same. This is a young man who is currently being overlooked by division 1 programs and is about to obtain offers (but has not as of yet) from SUU and a few other D1AA schools.

Film: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/3184797/collin-larsen

Con's
1. Height - 6'2'' and probably not getting any taller. While height does matter, it is not a "deal breaker" for an interior lineman.
2. Weight - While he is only 250lbs now, this is something that will change in the first 6 months of his participation in Coach Dave's Program.
3. First Step - This is an obvious flaw that can be coached out and will be on day one! Once it is, the only knock you can make is height.

Pro's
1. Violence at the point of attack.
2. Awareness of the second level on double teams.
3. Finish
4. Great Hands

Feedback from his brother Tyler Larsen. "He is getting overlooked just like I did. I have told Coach Wells about him a million times to no avail." In response to asking if Tyler would put his name on him he said, "absolutely he has a great mentality! This off-season he tore his whole knee up and worked his butt off to get back and played well! Yes I would put my name on him, he has the mentality we had, and loves the game of football."

Feedback from his High School Coach. "Collin is a guy with a lot of natural ability. He is overlooked because of his height. He was a leader on our team and was just like you would expect a Larsen to be. He is a hard worker and did more than I ever even thought to ask him to do which is what you want in a guy."

Mock this selection and you have effectively put your name in the running for public shaming when his Aggie career concludes. Mark my words, this is no doubt a young kid who has earned the opportunity and privilege to be an Aggie!

Kyle Whimpey
Utah State Recruiting Specialist
801.636.9164

Collin has committed to Southern Utah, where two of his other brothers played. I know this family very well!

***Kyle Whimpey*** wrote:As do I. I spoke with Tyler a few days ago and he said that this was on the horizon but did not say that it had happened yet. Did this happen in the last few days?

antibluehair wrote:It was NOT grades with Tovi

Ahbye wrote:MW has consistently had better recruiting classes than GA, which makes him a 'better recruiter'. However, recruitment is just the starting point. It's like getting out of the MTC and 'knowing' the language. I can get the refrigerator salesman to bring me one of those high-tech, do-it-all refrigerators, but unless I know how to get the most out of it and use all the bells and whistles, I'll be lucky if I can plug it in and have it keep my food cold.

We need a good talent developer at the QB and Oline positions. These are the most important to our team, because our guys are always going to be undersized, under-recruited, and in our case, under-disciplined. Those are the glaring holes on this team. We're consistently able to make good receivers (who saw Tarver doing so well this year?), DB's, LB's and Safeties. Where we've had the most problems are those two position groups. (Besides special teams.) It's the head coach's job to find those teachers. Just getting these players onto campus isn't good enough. I was at a football event tonight and the team chemistry is there, the tools are there, but some guys are undersized, and we haven't seemed to have the coaching in place to minimize the flaws and maximize the heart or dormant athleticism that needs to be brought forth. I still have hopes for these players. They're all good kids who just need a little leadership and teaching.

GeoAg wrote:
I don't think it is true that Wells recruiting has been better on paper than GAs. I'll take a look and see.

GeoAg wrote:

Floppy Hat wrote:

GeoAg wrote:
I don't think it is true that Wells recruiting has been better on paper than GAs. I'll take a look and see.

The info below is is pasted from a post in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=42189

I know recruiting rankings don't tell the whole story, especially when it comes to 2 and 3 star guys, but looking back at the past several years of recruiting rankings, I don't think my hypothesis is correct. The following rankings are from 247 Sports and are where our February signing classes were ranked nationally:

Year: National Recruiting Class Strength
2008: 111
2009: 107
2010: 108
2011: 111
2012: 107
2013: 107
2014: 112
2015: 70
2016: 92

Interesting how much our better rankings seem to coincide with poor play. I'll take a look at rivals and scout as well unless somebody beats me to it.

UtahStizzle wrote:

GeoAg wrote:

Floppy Hat wrote:

GeoAg wrote:
I don't think it is true that Wells recruiting has been better on paper than GAs. I'll take a look and see.

The info below is is pasted from a post in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=42189

I know recruiting rankings don't tell the whole story, especially when it comes to 2 and 3 star guys, but looking back at the past several years of recruiting rankings, I don't think my hypothesis is correct. The following rankings are from 247 Sports and are where our February signing classes were ranked nationally:

Year: National Recruiting Class Strength
2008: 111
2009: 107
2010: 108
2011: 111
2012: 107
2013: 107
2014: 112
2015: 70
2016: 92

Interesting how much our better rankings seem to coincide with poor play. I'll take a look at rivals and scout as well unless somebody beats me to it.

Player development is so much more important than recruiting stars.

Sent from an original NES.

Ahbye wrote: Yep. When everyone wonders what blueprint Boise followed, it was recruiting potential and frame and coaching it up. However, no amount of good coaching can overcome poor work habits or a bad attitude. Our players need to re-prioritize their lives to where football is a close second only to school. I'm pretty sure if playing time was pulled, we'd see some attitude changes. Someone needs to get sent home just to send a message.

brownjeans wrote:

Ahbye wrote: Yep. When everyone wonders what blueprint Boise followed, it was recruiting potential and frame and coaching it up. However, no amount of good coaching can overcome poor work habits or a bad attitude. Our players need to re-prioritize their lives to where football is a close second only to school. I'm pretty sure if playing time was pulled, we'd see some attitude changes. Someone needs to get sent home just to send a message.

Work habits, attitude, and a love for football is something that must be recruited for as well.