It baffles me why we haven't offered these two RB's. They are rewriting the record books in the state of Utah. We have two quality backs under our nose and we are going to whiff on them it appears. Can someone who is more dialed into our recruiting please tell me why we haven't offered these two? There must be something that not just our recruiters don't like, but the other D1 schools as well. Is it their size? As of today both of them are sitting right around that 2,400 yard mark for rushing this season.

They should be offered.

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I've watched both these players quite a bit. I would take Davis over Warren based on what I have seen. He has great balance to stay on his feet. The question that I have about both is their mentality. Do they refuse to lose? What Utah State needs more than anything else is someone that never gives up and has a feisty mentality (Dallin Leavitt). We can get kids to bulk up and learn to play football, but if they don't have the drive from within they are worthless under Matt Wells. He is not going to motivate anyone to win, more likely to do the opposite.

Instate recruiting doesn't seem like a priority to Wells.

swishh_15 wrote:FYI- Jaylen Warren is averaging 13 yards a carry and 220 rushing yards per game. He rushed for 256 yards in a big win at national power De La Salle. He has 29 TD's through 3 games.

Really? He has averaged almost 10 touchdowns per game in the last 3 games? That's crazy! I tried to look it up, but didn't find much.

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Aggiefan160 wrote:

swishh_15 wrote:FYI- Jaylen Warren is averaging 13 yards a carry and 220 rushing yards per game. He rushed for 256 yards in a big win at national power De La Salle. He has 29 TD's through 3 games.

Really? He has averaged almost 10 touchdowns per game in the last 3 games? That's crazy! I tried to look it up, but didn't find much.

It was a typo I thought I edited. 29 Td's through 11 games.

Ah. Ok. Still very impressive. I saw he had six touchdowns against Skyline. That is impressive!

Seems like we still haven't offered either of these players? They are now number 1 (Warren) and 2 (Davis) in rushing yards in Utah High School Football history in a season? Warren especially looks like a power back, and he ran for at least 100 yards in each game this season. That's impressive.

Anyone know much about Spencer Curtis? I saw he broke quite 2-3 different receiving records this season but couldn't see a much as far as offers go.

Josh Davis was on campus this past weekend. Things are looking very positive.

Are these guys the next Britain Covey? OFFER THEM!!!!

SuperiorBlueDiver wrote:Are these guys the next Britain Covey? OFFER THEM!!!!

I don't see it but others seem to think so. I don't think they are any more talented than what we have on the roster right now at RB. I would prefer Josh Davis out of the two but I'm not sure his game translates to this level at RB and I'm not sure what other position he could be moved to with his small size. Not to threadjack too much but what I don't understand is why we have a guy like Hervey that we had to fight several other programs for, including fellow MWC programs, and yet he has seen so little of the field after producing quite a bit in his limited appearances. SDSU and USU both went after Hervey and Penny with each of us landing one, yet Penny will go into next year as the clear cut starting RB for SDSU and our guy has had only a handful of carries to this point?

I would also like to see what we have in Morian Walker next season as well. What we really need is a bigger JC guy that can be the Marshall type short yardage guy and change of pace when we need to pound the rock. I would love to see us get D'Anthony Hopkins out of Blinn but I won't hold my breath.

We haven't even tried to establish a running attack the last two years.

Hunt broke several big runs in the first quarter last year never to touch the until the 4th quarter. He went beat most on a couple of runs late against new Mexico - he wanted that one.

Hervey had some very nice runs in limited touches.

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Aglicious wrote:

SuperiorBlueDiver wrote:Are these guys the next Britain Covey? OFFER THEM!!!!

I don't see it but others seem to think so. I don't think they are any more talented than what we have on the roster right now at RB. I would prefer Josh Davis out of the two but I'm not sure his game translates to this level at RB and I'm not sure what other position he could be moved to with his small size. Not to threadjack too much but what I don't understand is why we have a guy like Hervey that we had to fight several other programs for, including fellow MWC programs, and yet he has seen so little of the field after producing quite a bit in his limited appearances. SDSU and USU both went after Hervey and Penny with each of us landing one, yet Penny will go into next year as the clear cut starting RB for SDSU and our guy has had only a handful of carries to this point?

I would also like to see what we have in Morian Walker next season as well. What we really need is a bigger JC guy that can be the Marshall type short yardage guy and change of pace when we need to pound the rock. I would love to see us get D'Anthony Hopkins out of Blinn but I won't hold my breath.

I would prefer Josh as well. I think he could play RB or in the slot at this level.

Someone mention N. Vigil to him. He was a RB in HS.

GeoAg wrote:

Aglicious wrote:

SuperiorBlueDiver wrote:Are these guys the next Britain Covey? OFFER THEM!!!!

I don't see it but others seem to think so. I don't think they are any more talented than what we have on the roster right now at RB. I would prefer Josh Davis out of the two but I'm not sure his game translates to this level at RB and I'm not sure what other position he could be moved to with his small size. Not to threadjack too much but what I don't understand is why we have a guy like Hervey that we had to fight several other programs for, including fellow MWC programs, and yet he has seen so little of the field after producing quite a bit in his limited appearances. SDSU and USU both went after Hervey and Penny with each of us landing one, yet Penny will go into next year as the clear cut starting RB for SDSU and our guy has had only a handful of carries to this point?

I would also like to see what we have in Morian Walker next season as well. What we really need is a bigger JC guy that can be the Marshall type short yardage guy and change of pace when we need to pound the rock. I would love to see us get D'Anthony Hopkins out of Blinn but I won't hold my breath.

I would prefer Josh as well. I think he could play RB or in the slot at this level.

I could see him in the slot and maybe as a return specialist. Perhaps SBD's Covey comparison is about right as far as what he is capable of.

Elkaggie wrote:Someone mention N. Vigil to him. He was a RB in HS.

Problem is Davis is never going to be 6'-2" and 240 lbs unless he does a whole lot of growing. The guy I think that is most like the Vigil's is already on the roster - David Woodward. Kid seems to love contact and with some added muscle and mature body I think he can bring the wood...pun intended.

They would be a great Thunder/Lightning Combo at the RB position.

If they're good athletes who are tough minded, hard working, football junkies sign them. Even if they don't work at the same position they play in high school, we need guys like that on this team.

Josh Davis reminds me a lot of Kerwynn, especially his ability to change direction at nearly full speed

I'm still baffled by this. Utah High School football has closed the gap on most states, especially the top end Utah teams. Statistically Davis and Warren put together the two best seasons in the history of Utah prep football and no major offers are coming, I really am baffled. I think too often recruiters use the eye test and claim guys like Kerwynn are too small. At some point though the numbers just become too great to ignore, as is the case with Davis and Warren, as was the case with Kerwynn. On tape besides being too short, I don't see what isn't to like. I hear Warren has grade issues, and if so then that will scare people off. He'll end up at snow and then kick our a$$ when he plays for Utah after two seasons; or maybe he never make grades even at a juco. That's certainly more of an issue than his size. I said earlier that Josh Davis reminds me of Brock Forsey, and I'll wager Boise doesn't regret using and scholy on a local undersized back that rushed for back to back 1,000 yard seasons.

Aglicious wrote:

GeoAg wrote:

Aglicious wrote:

SuperiorBlueDiver wrote:Are these guys the next Britain Covey? OFFER THEM!!!!

I don't see it but others seem to think so. I don't think they are any more talented than what we have on the roster right now at RB. I would prefer Josh Davis out of the two but I'm not sure his game translates to this level at RB and I'm not sure what other position he could be moved to with his small size. Not to threadjack too much but what I don't understand is why we have a guy like Hervey that we had to fight several other programs for, including fellow MWC programs, and yet he has seen so little of the field after producing quite a bit in his limited appearances. SDSU and USU both went after Hervey and Penny with each of us landing one, yet Penny will go into next year as the clear cut starting RB for SDSU and our guy has had only a handful of carries to this point?

I would also like to see what we have in Morian Walker next season as well. What we really need is a bigger JC guy that can be the Marshall type short yardage guy and change of pace when we need to pound the rock. I would love to see us get D'Anthony Hopkins out of Blinn but I won't hold my breath.

I would prefer Josh as well. I think he could play RB or in the slot at this level.

I could see him in the slot and maybe as a return specialist. Perhaps SBD's Covey comparison is about right as far as what he is capable of.

Josh Davis is not on the same level as Covey. Covey possesses other-worldly speed and quickness. Just watch their tapes. I still think we should offer Davis though. The dude has good speed and incredible vision and could develop into a nice asset. Warren probably is good enough to offer but it's just too hard to tell with the monstars o-line that he literally ran behind most of the length of the field on almost every play all year.

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elcheque2 wrote:

Aglicious wrote:

GeoAg wrote:

Aglicious wrote:

SuperiorBlueDiver wrote:Are these guys the next Britain Covey? OFFER THEM!!!!

I don't see it but others seem to think so. I don't think they are any more talented than what we have on the roster right now at RB. I would prefer Josh Davis out of the two but I'm not sure his game translates to this level at RB and I'm not sure what other position he could be moved to with his small size. Not to threadjack too much but what I don't understand is why we have a guy like Hervey that we had to fight several other programs for, including fellow MWC programs, and yet he has seen so little of the field after producing quite a bit in his limited appearances. SDSU and USU both went after Hervey and Penny with each of us landing one, yet Penny will go into next year as the clear cut starting RB for SDSU and our guy has had only a handful of carries to this point?

I would also like to see what we have in Morian Walker next season as well. What we really need is a bigger JC guy that can be the Marshall type short yardage guy and change of pace when we need to pound the rock. I would love to see us get D'Anthony Hopkins out of Blinn but I won't hold my breath.

I would prefer Josh as well. I think he could play RB or in the slot at this level.

I could see him in the slot and maybe as a return specialist. Perhaps SBD's Covey comparison is about right as far as what he is capable of.

Josh Davis is not on the same level as Covey. Covey possesses other-worldly speed and quickness. Just watch their tapes. I still think we should offer Davis though. The dude has good speed and incredible vision and could develop into a nice asset. Warren probably is good enough to offer but it's just too hard to tell with the monstars o-line that he literally ran behind most of the length of the field on almost every play all year.

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Covey will literally be other worldly in a couple of years if he doesn't learn to call a fair catch.

Flying_Scotsman8 wrote:

elcheque2 wrote:

Aglicious wrote:

GeoAg wrote:

Aglicious wrote:

SuperiorBlueDiver wrote:Are these guys the next Britain Covey? OFFER THEM!!!!

I don't see it but others seem to think so. I don't think they are any more talented than what we have on the roster right now at RB. I would prefer Josh Davis out of the two but I'm not sure his game translates to this level at RB and I'm not sure what other position he could be moved to with his small size. Not to threadjack too much but what I don't understand is why we have a guy like Hervey that we had to fight several other programs for, including fellow MWC programs, and yet he has seen so little of the field after producing quite a bit in his limited appearances. SDSU and USU both went after Hervey and Penny with each of us landing one, yet Penny will go into next year as the clear cut starting RB for SDSU and our guy has had only a handful of carries to this point?

I would also like to see what we have in Morian Walker next season as well. What we really need is a bigger JC guy that can be the Marshall type short yardage guy and change of pace when we need to pound the rock. I would love to see us get D'Anthony Hopkins out of Blinn but I won't hold my breath.

I would prefer Josh as well. I think he could play RB or in the slot at this level.

I could see him in the slot and maybe as a return specialist. Perhaps SBD's Covey comparison is about right as far as what he is capable of.

Josh Davis is not on the same level as Covey. Covey possesses other-worldly speed and quickness. Just watch their tapes. I still think we should offer Davis though. The dude has good speed and incredible vision and could develop into a nice asset. Warren probably is good enough to offer but it's just too hard to tell with the monstars o-line that he literally ran behind most of the length of the field on almost every play all year.

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Covey will literally be other worldly in a couple of years if he doesn't learn to call a fair catch.

Game changers like Covey can afford to take risks like that because of the reward potential. If he can somehow dodge those first two guys, he's gone. On the other hand, he gets destroyed quite a bit as we witnessed last year. JoJo did the same thing, but I can't remember JoJo ever getting destroyed. Actually, maybe JoJo called for a fair catch more often than I remember. If Covey can learn to read the situation a bit better he'll be just fine.

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elcheque2 wrote:

Flying_Scotsman8 wrote:

elcheque2 wrote:

Aglicious wrote:

GeoAg wrote:

Aglicious wrote:

SuperiorBlueDiver wrote:Are these guys the next Britain Covey? OFFER THEM!!!!

I don't see it but others seem to think so. I don't think they are any more talented than what we have on the roster right now at RB. I would prefer Josh Davis out of the two but I'm not sure his game translates to this level at RB and I'm not sure what other position he could be moved to with his small size. Not to threadjack too much but what I don't understand is why we have a guy like Hervey that we had to fight several other programs for, including fellow MWC programs, and yet he has seen so little of the field after producing quite a bit in his limited appearances. SDSU and USU both went after Hervey and Penny with each of us landing one, yet Penny will go into next year as the clear cut starting RB for SDSU and our guy has had only a handful of carries to this point?

I would also like to see what we have in Morian Walker next season as well. What we really need is a bigger JC guy that can be the Marshall type short yardage guy and change of pace when we need to pound the rock. I would love to see us get D'Anthony Hopkins out of Blinn but I won't hold my breath.

I would prefer Josh as well. I think he could play RB or in the slot at this level.

I could see him in the slot and maybe as a return specialist. Perhaps SBD's Covey comparison is about right as far as what he is capable of.

Josh Davis is not on the same level as Covey. Covey possesses other-worldly speed and quickness. Just watch their tapes. I still think we should offer Davis though. The dude has good speed and incredible vision and could develop into a nice asset. Warren probably is good enough to offer but it's just too hard to tell with the monstars o-line that he literally ran behind most of the length of the field on almost every play all year.

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Covey will literally be other worldly in a couple of years if he doesn't learn to call a fair catch.

Game changers like Covey can afford to take risks like that because of the reward potential. If he can somehow dodge those first two guys, he's gone. On the other hand, he gets destroyed quite a bit as we witnessed last year. JoJo did the same thing, but I can't remember JoJo ever getting destroyed. Actually, maybe JoJo called for a fair catch more often than I remember. If Covey can learn to read the situation a bit better he'll be just fine.

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From what I remember about Covey, he REFUSED to fair catch it, no matter the situation. I understand his return potential, but he is gonna get hurt if he keeps getting smashed by 220 lb dudes running at him full speed.

elcheque2 wrote:

Aglicious wrote:

GeoAg wrote:

Aglicious wrote:

SuperiorBlueDiver wrote:Are these guys the next Britain Covey? OFFER THEM!!!!

I don't see it but others seem to think so. I don't think they are any more talented than what we have on the roster right now at RB. I would prefer Josh Davis out of the two but I'm not sure his game translates to this level at RB and I'm not sure what other position he could be moved to with his small size. Not to threadjack too much but what I don't understand is why we have a guy like Hervey that we had to fight several other programs for, including fellow MWC programs, and yet he has seen so little of the field after producing quite a bit in his limited appearances. SDSU and USU both went after Hervey and Penny with each of us landing one, yet Penny will go into next year as the clear cut starting RB for SDSU and our guy has had only a handful of carries to this point?

I would also like to see what we have in Morian Walker next season as well. What we really need is a bigger JC guy that can be the Marshall type short yardage guy and change of pace when we need to pound the rock. I would love to see us get D'Anthony Hopkins out of Blinn but I won't hold my breath.

I would prefer Josh as well. I think he could play RB or in the slot at this level.

I could see him in the slot and maybe as a return specialist. Perhaps SBD's Covey comparison is about right as far as what he is capable of.

Josh Davis is not on the same level as Covey. Covey possesses other-worldly speed and quickness. Just watch their tapes. I still think we should offer Davis though. The dude has good speed and incredible vision and could develop into a nice asset. Warren probably is good enough to offer but it's just too hard to tell with the monstars o-line that he literally ran behind most of the length of the field on almost every play all year.

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I have to disagree with you checque. Davis is 20 lbs heavier and according to what was published at the time, just as fast as Covey coming out of HS. Covey may be a hair quicker laterally, but Josh's ability to cut at full speed equalizes that. I agree that we need to offer. We will regret it we don't and soon. It is already too late to have built the relationship with an early offer that is need when the bigger schools come calling, and I believe they will. Hope we can still find a way to get him.

Anyone have any thoughts on Curtis?

I kind of feel like if we really want Wells to go after Davis we should start a big thread about how much we don't want him and how stupid Wells would be to offer him. If we do that Wells will offer him the next day just to spite us and prove he's right and we're all stupid.


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That thread which would be a big mistake. Sorry to be a negative Nellie or Debbie Downer but Davis not a DI back. He will be fortunate to get playing time at Army, Navy, and probably even Idaho. Video technique is an artifact when looking at players makes them look quick and faster than they really are. I am surprised Weber State has not offered as he is similar but still not as good as Nick Chournos. Nick had the size advantage as well either 6' or 6'1 and 215 pounds. I have some recruiter contacts in the Missouri Valley Conference who have watched the video highlights and their take he is he lacks size and contrary to the accolades in this thread doe not have the feet or hips to be an impact back. They characterize him as a blue collar back and that has not sparked any interest even in blue collar programs like Youngstown State. This would be a step back to the David Fiefia days of Mick's teams.

MW is no different than any other coaches. He gets dogged on here for not recruiting local. College coaches out of state do love Utah but its for backers, nose guards, O and D line, safeties, and they will spend the coin to come watch QBs though they are much higher on Cali kids when it comes to this position. Never high on the list are running backs or receivers. I do not fault him for not showing much interest.

Wish you could see some of the backs MW has looked at. He has an eye for quality backs but for some reason it has not panned out. Justen Hervey is an excellent back and contrary to board opinion Hunt is a good back just a notch below. Wells really missed on Mays but so did we all. Got to smitten with his size and belief that he was faster than he is. He has deceptive speed ...deceptively slow. Sadly he was bust and a wasted scholarship. Pro scouts have gone back and forth on him but in the end are unimpressed with him. MW needs a little bit of luck as he really does know what a good back needs to be. Would like to see him get in the groove and have a revolving roll over of quality backs like Boise State does year after year.

MW has been looking at a kid that is a Houdini in cleats and if you watch video side by side Davis would appear to be the ordinary back that he is. We can get these high end dynamic type of players. This is a city kid who badly wants out of urban life. One problem is but I see it as a positive is that he attended a behavioral type school to remediate grades and conduct. USU is a great extension of a path toward progress academically and socially. GA was the very best at selling Cache Valley and USU to kids as does MW..albeit GA was bigger on recruiting local kids for community PR purposes. We actually have a major recruiting advantage over Boise State in that we are a four year university with a campus as opposed to a four year junior college with a campus not even as nice as SLCC's. Do hope we get this kid as all of you would see real magic on the field...not a JoJo reincarnate or clone...but a kid that brings an even better game and is better person.

Mediocre at Best wrote:That thread which would be a big mistake. Sorry to be a negative Nellie or Debbie Downer but Davis not a DI back. He will be fortunate to get playing time at Army, Navy, and probably even Idaho. Video technique is an artifact when looking at players makes them look quick and faster than they really are. I am surprised Weber State has not offered as he is similar but still not as good as Nick Chournos. Nick had the size advantage as well either 6' or 6'1 and 215 pounds. I have some recruiter contacts in the Missouri Valley Conference who have watched the video highlights and their take he is he lacks size and contrary to the accolades in this thread doe not have the feet or hips to be an impact back. They characterize him as a blue collar back and that has not sparked any interest even in blue collar programs like Youngstown State. This would be a step back to the David Fiefia days of Mick's teams.

MW is no different than any other coaches. He gets dogged on here for not recruiting local. College coaches out of state do love Utah but its for backers, nose guards, O and D line, safeties, and they will spend the coin to come watch QBs though they are much higher on Cali kids when it comes to this position. Never high on the list are running backs or receivers. I do not fault him for not showing much interest.

Wish you could see some of the backs MW has looked at. He has an eye for quality backs but for some reason it has not panned out. Justen Hervey is an excellent back and contrary to board opinion Hunt is a good back just a notch below. Wells really missed on Mays but so did we all. Got to smitten with his size and belief that he was faster than he is. He has deceptive speed ...deceptively slow. Sadly he was bust and a wasted scholarship. Pro scouts have gone back and forth on him but in the end are unimpressed with him. MW needs a little bit of luck as he really does know what a good back needs to be. Would like to see him get in the groove and have a revolving roll over of quality backs like Boise State does year after year.

MW has been looking at a kid that is a Houdini in cleats and if you watch video side by side Davis would appear to be the ordinary back that he is. We can get these high end dynamic type of players. This is a city kid who badly wants out of urban life. One problem is but I see it as a positive is that he attended a behavioral type school to remediate grades and conduct. USU is a great extension of a path toward progress academically and socially. GA was the very best at selling Cache Valley and USU to kids as does MW..albeit GA was bigger on recruiting local kids for community PR purposes. We actually have a major recruiting advantage over Boise State in that we are a four year university with a campus as opposed to a four year junior college with a campus not even as nice as SLCC's. Do hope we get this kid as all of you would see real magic on the field...not a JoJo reincarnate or clone...but a kid that brings an even better game and is better person.

NO. No he doesn't.

Mediocre at Best wrote:That thread which would be a big mistake. Sorry to be a negative Nellie or Debbie Downer but Davis not a DI back. He will be fortunate to get playing time at Army, Navy, and probably even Idaho. Video technique is an artifact when looking at players makes them look quick and faster than they really are. I am surprised Weber State has not offered as he is similar but still not as good as Nick Chournos. Nick had the size advantage as well either 6' or 6'1 and 215 pounds. I have some recruiter contacts in the Missouri Valley Conference who have watched the video highlights and their take he is he lacks size and contrary to the accolades in this thread doe not have the feet or hips to be an impact back. They characterize him as a blue collar back and that has not sparked any interest even in blue collar programs like Youngstown State. This would be a step back to the David Fiefia days of Mick's teams.

MW is no different than any other coaches. He gets dogged on here for not recruiting local. College coaches out of state do love Utah but its for backers, nose guards, O and D line, safeties, and they will spend the coin to come watch QBs though they are much higher on Cali kids when it comes to this position. Never high on the list are running backs or receivers. I do not fault him for not showing much interest.

Wish you could see some of the backs MW has looked at. He has an eye for quality backs but for some reason it has not panned out. Justen Hervey is an excellent back and contrary to board opinion Hunt is a good back just a notch below. Wells really missed on Mays but so did we all. Got to smitten with his size and belief that he was faster than he is. He has deceptive speed ...deceptively slow. Sadly he was bust and a wasted scholarship. Pro scouts have gone back and forth on him but in the end are unimpressed with him. MW needs a little bit of luck as he really does know what a good back needs to be. Would like to see him get in the groove and have a revolving roll over of quality backs like Boise State does year after year.

MW has been looking at a kid that is a Houdini in cleats and if you watch video side by side Davis would appear to be the ordinary back that he is. We can get these high end dynamic type of players. This is a city kid who badly wants out of urban life. One problem is but I see it as a positive is that he attended a behavioral type school to remediate grades and conduct. USU is a great extension of a path toward progress academically and socially. GA was the very best at selling Cache Valley and USU to kids as does MW..albeit GA was bigger on recruiting local kids for community PR purposes. We actually have a major recruiting advantage over Boise State in that we are a four year university with a campus as opposed to a four year junior college with a campus not even as nice as SLCC's. Do hope we get this kid as all of you would see real magic on the field...not a JoJo reincarnate or clone...but a kid that brings an even better game and is better person.

Josh Davis - an ordinary back? That's actually pretty comical. The kid has absolutely torched the competition in this state for three years. And that's against Utah competition that most "experts" say is as good as it has ever been. Not good enough for you? Perhaps you should check out some of his 7-on-7 highlights. Davis has completely, and routinely, dominated your so-called Houdinis. Contrary to your opinion (and yes, that's what it is), he has elite feet and very good hips. Shoot, two years ago he was the best receiver on Utah's 7-on-7 team down in Vegas; and that team included Simi Fehoko and Bryce Mortenson. I get it, he doesn't fit the profile of what "you" would consider an elite back. Ever heard of Rex Burkhead? He faced similar stereotypes coming out of high school and he turned out to be a pretty good back at Nebraska. Oh yeah, and he is still on the Bengals roster. USU is not some institution of reclamation. So what if your prize "badly wants out of urban life". That's one of the worst arguments for recruiting that I have ever heard. Davis is, arguably, the best running back in Utah and he is a terrific student. Here's an idea, why don't the Aggies focus on getting the best football players out of Utah first. Not only will a kid like Davis improve the program but, as a local kid, he brings lots of fans and money to the University. How much money and support is your reclamation project bringing to the school? Good Lord!

Mediocre at Best wrote: Wish you could see some of the backs MW has looked at. He has an eye for quality backs but for some reason it has not panned out. Justen Hervey is an excellent back and contrary to board opinion Hunt is a good back just a notch below. Wells really missed on Mays but so did we all. Got to smitten with his size and belief that he was faster than he is. He has deceptive speed ...deceptively slow. Sadly he was bust and a wasted scholarship. Pro scouts have gone back and forth on him but in the end are unimpressed with him. MW needs a little bit of luck as he really does know what a good back needs to be. Would like to see him get in the groove and have a revolving roll over of quality backs like Boise State does year after year.

Surely you're not talking about Devonte Mays are you? The dude was an absolutely BEAST for us until he was injured. He was a lock for the League. Are you saying that he was a recruiting bust because of injury? Deceptively slow? Is there another Mays on the team I don't know about?

I have seen Josh Davis play in person and not just his huddl tapes. The kid is legit. If he didn't pan out at rb at the d1 level he would make a really good safety. He is every bit the athlete that Dalin Leavitt is and is crazy competitive as well. His coaches rave about him and his leadership this is the kind of kid we need at USU.

Coach - Do appreciate and respect your personal investment in this kid. You raise a couple of essential points (1) my post is only my opinion (2) it apparently is an opinion that is shared by those that recruit for a living, and (3) he indeed does not fit the stereotype elite back most coaches look for which does not necessarily preclude him from success. As you point out there are always exceptions for the same reason projected stars such as Mays don't work out. That is what makes college and pro sports ever so interesting fun to watch for the sleeper and crushing to see the first rounder should have never come to camp. Only time will settle this debate on Davis.