players on utah state leadership council

tipitup · Post by **tipitup** » December 11th, 2020, 7:10 pm

How many players are on the leadership council? if i'm reading right the initial statement was in a meeting with them and not the whole team, am i seeing this right? then it had the anonymous poll, then the team meeting on friday. so outside of the leadership council, crockett and hartwell no one else knows what was said. so anything the rest of the team heard was passed on from the leadership council and the decision made from those statements. Is that how it went down, from what we know?

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » December 11th, 2020, 7:14 pm

tipitup wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:10 pm
How many players are on the leadership council? if i'm reading right the initial statement was in a meeting with them and not the whole team, am i seeing this right? then it had the anonymous poll, then the team meeting on friday. so outside of the leadership council, crockett and hartwell no one else knows what was said. so anything the rest of the team heard was passed on from the leadership council and the decision made from those statements. Is that how it went down, from what we know?

The poll was conducted by a single player. I've got a guess as to who.

AgMac · Post by **AgMac** » December 11th, 2020, 7:15 pm

These are incredibly important facts not being discussed.

MrBiggle · Post by **MrBiggle** » December 11th, 2020, 7:17 pm

tipitup wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:10 pm
How many players are on the leadership council? if i'm reading right the initial statement was in a meeting with them and not the whole team, am i seeing this right? then it had the anonymous poll, then the team meeting on friday. so outside of the leadership council, crockett and hartwell no one else knows what was said. so anything the rest of the team heard was passed on from the leadership council and the decision made from those statements. Is that how it went down, from what we know?

That’s how I have interpreted this as well.

Smokin Joe · Post by **Smokin Joe** » December 11th, 2020, 7:38 pm

USU78 wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:14 pm

tipitup wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:10 pm
How many players are on the leadership council? if i'm reading right the initial statement was in a meeting with them and not the whole team, am i seeing this right? then it had the anonymous poll, then the team meeting on friday. so outside of the leadership council, crockett and hartwell no one else knows what was said. so anything the rest of the team heard was passed on from the leadership council and the decision made from those statements. Is that how it went down, from what we know?
The poll was conducted by a single player. I've got a guess as to who.

The snow-flake-in-chief no doubt. Can you give us hints as to her name?

Post by **GeoAg** » December 11th, 2020, 7:49 pm

Smokin Joe wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:38 pm

USU78 wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:14 pm

tipitup wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:10 pm
How many players are on the leadership council? if i'm reading right the initial statement was in a meeting with them and not the whole team, am i seeing this right? then it had the anonymous poll, then the team meeting on friday. so outside of the leadership council, crockett and hartwell no one else knows what was said. so anything the rest of the team heard was passed on from the leadership council and the decision made from those statements. Is that how it went down, from what we know?
The poll was conducted by a single player. I've got a guess as to who.
The snow-flake-in-chief no doubt. Can you give us hints as to her name?

I beg you guys to put a stop to this garbage right now. This type of speculation will only make things worse

bigblue · Post by **bigblue** » December 11th, 2020, 7:56 pm

GeoAg wrote:
Smokin Joe wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:38 pm

USU78 wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:14 pm

tipitup wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:10 pm
How many players are on the leadership council? if i'm reading right the initial statement was in a meeting with them and not the whole team, am i seeing this right? then it had the anonymous poll, then the team meeting on friday. so outside of the leadership council, crockett and hartwell no one else knows what was said. so anything the rest of the team heard was passed on from the leadership council and the decision made from those statements. Is that how it went down, from what we know?
The poll was conducted by a single player. I've got a guess as to who.
The snow-flake-in-chief no doubt. Can you give us hints as to her name?
I beg you guys to put a stop to this garbage right now. This type of speculation will only make things worse

Right? They're are quite a few posters on this board need to take a break for a bit and let this play out. There's no good that will come from it.

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bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » December 11th, 2020, 8:08 pm

When I was in college at Utah State, a petition was circulated in my department to have one of the professors fired because he was a poor lecturer. And, in truth, he was a poor lecturer. The few student organizers of the petition whipped everyone else into a frenzy. "we deserve better" "we pay his salary and we aren't getting our money's worth" etc. etc. I was a student "leader" in our department and I got caught up in it and thought I should show "leadership" by signing the petition and telling people about it. I felt a little exhilarated thinking I had "done the right thing" and had exercised some influence on the future of the department. This professor also happened to be a family friend but, hey, I was "standing on principle".

As it turned out, this professor may have been a poor lecturer but he was also an excellent researcher and grant writer/grant winner and was responsible for the lion's share of the grant monies that our department obtained which allowed the department to actually even exist during those very lean years and that allowed the other professors to concentrate on teaching. I've never forgotten how I felt when I learned the whole story and, 35 years later, I'm still ashamed that I allowed myself to get swept up in the emotion of a moment that may have cost this good man his career because I had acted on emotion and just a fraction of the whole picture. Luckily, the students didn't run the department and he didn't lose his job, but every time I saw him in the following years, I felt sick to my stomach that I had signed that petition.

Moral of the story: Facts and the whole story are important.

Smokin Joe · Post by **Smokin Joe** » December 11th, 2020, 8:18 pm

Smokin Joe wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:38 pm

USU78 wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:14 pm

tipitup wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 7:10 pm
How many players are on the leadership council? if i'm reading right the initial statement was in a meeting with them and not the whole team, am i seeing this right? then it had the anonymous poll, then the team meeting on friday. so outside of the leadership council, crockett and hartwell no one else knows what was said. so anything the rest of the team heard was passed on from the leadership council and the decision made from those statements. Is that how it went down, from what we know?
The poll was conducted by a single player. I've got a guess as to who.
The snow-flake-in-chief no doubt. Can you give us hints as to her name?

I agree it was improper of me to ask for her name. It should not be made public and I sincerely mean that.

Aggiefan33 · Post by **Aggiefan33** » December 11th, 2020, 9:01 pm

How about laying off the ‘her name’ bit?

Why is it appropriate the make it feminine?

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Post by **Aglicious** » December 12th, 2020, 12:26 am

bluegrouse wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 8:08 pm
When I was in college at Utah State, a petition was circulated in my department to have one of the professors fired because he was a poor lecturer. And, in truth, he was a poor lecturer. The few student organizers of the petition whipped everyone else into a frenzy. "we deserve better" "we pay his salary and we aren't getting our money's worth" etc. etc. I was a student "leader" in our department and I got caught up in it and thought I should show "leadership" by signing the petition and telling people about it. I felt a little exhilarated thinking I had "done the right thing" and had exercised some influence on the future of the department. This professor also happened to be a family friend but, hey, I was "standing on principle".

As it turned out, this professor may have been a poor lecturer but he was also an excellent researcher and grant writer/grant winner and was responsible for the lion's share of the grant monies that our department obtained which allowed the department to actually even exist during those very lean years and that allowed the other professors to concentrate on teaching. I've never forgotten how I felt when I learned the whole story and, 35 years later, I'm still ashamed that I allowed myself to get swept up in the emotion of a moment that may have cost this good man his career because I had acted on emotion and just a fraction of the whole picture. Luckily, the students didn't run the department and he didn't lose his job, but every time I saw him in the following years, I felt sick to my stomach that I had signed that petition.

Moral of the story: Facts and the whole story are important.

Can't believe you signed a petition against your own father.....what kind of son are you?

He was the best professor I had and it wasn't really close.

bluegrouse · Post by **bluegrouse** » December 12th, 2020, 4:14 am

Aglicious wrote: ↑
December 12th, 2020, 12:26 am

bluegrouse wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 8:08 pm
When I was in college at Utah State, a petition was circulated in my department to have one of the professors fired because he was a poor lecturer. And, in truth, he was a poor lecturer. The few student organizers of the petition whipped everyone else into a frenzy. "we deserve better" "we pay his salary and we aren't getting our money's worth" etc. etc. I was a student "leader" in our department and I got caught up in it and thought I should show "leadership" by signing the petition and telling people about it. I felt a little exhilarated thinking I had "done the right thing" and had exercised some influence on the future of the department. This professor also happened to be a family friend but, hey, I was "standing on principle".

As it turned out, this professor may have been a poor lecturer but he was also an excellent researcher and grant writer/grant winner and was responsible for the lion's share of the grant monies that our department obtained which allowed the department to actually even exist during those very lean years and that allowed the other professors to concentrate on teaching. I've never forgotten how I felt when I learned the whole story and, 35 years later, I'm still ashamed that I allowed myself to get swept up in the emotion of a moment that may have cost this good man his career because I had acted on emotion and just a fraction of the whole picture. Luckily, the students didn't run the department and he didn't lose his job, but every time I saw him in the following years, I felt sick to my stomach that I had signed that petition.

Moral of the story: Facts and the whole story are important.
Can't believe you signed a petition against your own father.....what kind of son are you?

He was the best professor I had and it wasn't really close.

I know, right? Made family dinners awkward for years. Haha.

Dwigt · Post by **Dwigt** » December 12th, 2020, 6:09 am

Aggiefan33 wrote: ↑
December 11th, 2020, 9:01 pm
How about laying off the ‘her name’ bit?

Why is it appropriate the make it feminine?

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