Is closed. With the exception of two scrimmages. I'm kind of pissed off.

aggies22 wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 9:36 am

Is closed. With the exception of two scrimmages. I'm kind of pissed off.

With the Teachers' Unions and most divisions of state and federal government looking for excuses to shut everything down (they do because they can), how could they possibly permit curious lookieloos or serious reporters like yourself in to watch? Don't you realize we've got cooties?

Is this for a perceived competitive advantage to keep things under lock and key? At the end of the day, I just want to win. So, if this helps, then I'm OK with it. Open to debate: is this realistically a competitive advantage for a small program like ours?

BLUERUFiO wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 9:51 am

Is this for a perceived competitive advantage to keep things under lock and key? At the end of the day, I just want to win. So, if this helps, then I'm OK with it. Open to debate: is this realistically a competitive advantage for a small program like ours?

I would think it's some sort of protocol with limiting exposure to outsiders.

Boo!! I’m pissed too. I am pretty sure Coach said they would be open. What gives?!

USU will be complete mystery team for our first game, I like that a lot.

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 11:59 am

Boo!! I’m pissed too. I am pretty sure Coach said they would be open. What gives?!

He did say that my Aggie brother.

When is the official start date of camp? I know it is this week.

Friday.

Welp, guess I will give up what I know when I know it. No problem, I’ve got you guys’ back….
Sincerely,
The Princess - lol

I'm for it, don't give anything away.

Look on the bright side! Lack of knowledge/information has never stopped anyone from posting here in the Forum.

El Sapo wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 5:06 pm

Look on the bright side! Lack of knowledge/information has never stopped anyone from posting here in the Forum.

We can start a rumor that there is one game that a surprise onside kick is already planned for.

GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 5:10 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 5:06 pm

Look on the bright side! Lack of knowledge/information has never stopped anyone from posting here in the Forum.

We can start a rumor that there is one game that a surprise onside kick is already planned for.

The best example of a reason to close camp was scouting done by the Utes for Matt Wells first game as a head coach. Wittingham plan for the onside kick was scouted and succeeded because of what they saw scouting practice and scrimmages. He admitted to it in the post game, but it was fixed before conference games were played.

Another example would be, and I know this wasn't installed in fall camp, surprising BYU with Nick Vigil playing running back. There is a rumor though that we were planning on putting in the packages during fall camp to surprise Tennessee that year, but that had to be scrapped and BYU just happened to be the first game after we had the bye week and chance to do it.

GeorgiaAggie wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 10:11 am

BLUERUFiO wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 9:51 am

Is this for a perceived competitive advantage to keep things under lock and key? At the end of the day, I just want to win. So, if this helps, then I'm OK with it. Open to debate: is this realistically a competitive advantage for a small program like ours?

I would think it's some sort of protocol with limiting exposure to outsiders.

Have the guys been vaxxed yet? It was disappointing to hear that everyone hadn’t been vaccinated. Not sure why coach didn’t have a team rule requiring it.

GameFAQSAggie wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 5:10 pm

El Sapo wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 5:06 pm

Look on the bright side! Lack of knowledge/information has never stopped anyone from posting here in the Forum.

We can start a rumor that there is one game that a surprise onside kick is already planned for.

I heard we were only doing onside kicks.

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

August 4th, 2021, 1:48 am

GeorgiaAggie wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 10:11 am

BLUERUFiO wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 9:51 am

Is this for a perceived competitive advantage to keep things under lock and key? At the end of the day, I just want to win. So, if this helps, then I'm OK with it. Open to debate: is this realistically a competitive advantage for a small program like ours?

I would think it's some sort of protocol with limiting exposure to outsiders.

Have the guys been vaxxed yet? It was disappointing to hear that everyone hadn’t been vaccinated. Not sure why coach didn’t have a team rule requiring it.

Jordan got his 1st dose. Next one in 2 weeks. It wasnt required, just strongly suggested to avoid missing games

Boise closed their camp due to players testing positive. Random Twitter people say some positives were in vaccinated players.

Full wrote: ↑

August 4th, 2021, 9:13 am

Boise closed their camp due to players testing positive. Random Twitter people say some positives were in vaccinated players.

Right. If the goal post is zero cases this year could be very similar to last year. Just my opinion.

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

August 4th, 2021, 1:48 am

GeorgiaAggie wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 10:11 am

BLUERUFiO wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 9:51 am

Is this for a perceived competitive advantage to keep things under lock and key? At the end of the day, I just want to win. So, if this helps, then I'm OK with it. Open to debate: is this realistically a competitive advantage for a small program like ours?

I would think it's some sort of protocol with limiting exposure to outsiders.

Have the guys been vaxxed yet? It was disappointing to hear that everyone hadn’t been vaccinated. Not sure why coach didn’t have a team rule requiring it.

And at that, the starters that we can least afford to lose?

slcagg wrote: ↑

August 4th, 2021, 9:16 am

Full wrote: ↑

August 4th, 2021, 9:13 am

Boise closed their camp due to players testing positive. Random Twitter people say some positives were in vaccinated players.

Right. If the goal post is zero cases this year could be very similar to last year. Just my opinion.

I don’t think the goal post is or has ever been zero. I don’t know how teams are treating contact tracing this season with vaccinated players, but hopefully with the vaccine there are only a few breakthrough cases. I think limiting exposure helps keeping everyone playing, which has got to be what everyone wants. I just don’t want to be sitting at home watching games on TV, while the game is being played in Logan in front of my empty seat again.

I'm sad the camp is closed. I was really looking forward to the anticipated updates and intel!

Whether it is strategic or COVID related I have no idea. But I'm guessing COVID is a slightly more likely explanation given what the coach said in the past.

According to the post about the MWC's COVID plans this year, the conference (and probably most schools) isn't (aren't) requiring vaccinations, *BUT* if a team has to cancel due to some players testing positive for COVID then that team gets a loss recorded on their record this year (unlike last year). Also any player who isn't vaccinated must be tested weekly, and the conference won't pay for the tests. I don't know how USU is treating the cost of testing.

Given that the vaccines reduce the likelihood of death from COVID by about 500x it is amazing to me that anyone over 11 years of age in the US isn't vaccinated by now. The "pandemic" is essentially just among the unvaccinated at this point. Yes there are break through infections, but deaths among the vaccinated are extremely rare. But at this point I've got to the point where I simply say that if a person wants to play Russian Roulette who am I to stop them?

163 million fully vaccinated - 1,263 deaths among that group.
About the same number who are not vaccinated - approximate deaths in that group 614,000

And one other point, if the closed status is due to COVID the Athletic Department could set up cams to show at least some of the action.

Full wrote: ↑

August 4th, 2021, 9:13 am

Boise closed their camp due to players testing positive. Random Twitter people say some positives were in vaccinated players.

Interesting because I thought the big carrot being dangled in front of these players by the conference was to get vaccinated so they did not have to be subject to testing. Obviously the individual schools can run their testing how they see fit right now but will they continue to test players that are vaxxed once the season begins? Will they report positives among vaxxed if they do test everyone? Technically (according to the MWC) they should not be required to test them so why report the results among the vaxxed?

If getting vaxxed doesn't serve as a shield against being tested then I fear we may end up in a repeat of last year because there will be definitely be positives among both un-vaxxed and vaxxed as both sides continue to be carriers and spreaders.

Aglicious wrote: ↑

August 4th, 2021, 12:54 pm

Full wrote: ↑

August 4th, 2021, 9:13 am

Boise closed their camp due to players testing positive. Random Twitter people say some positives were in vaccinated players.

Interesting because I thought the big carrot being dangled in front of these players by the conference was to get vaccinated so they did not have to be subject to testing. Obviously the individual schools can run their testing how they see fit right now but will they continue to test players that are vaxxed once the season begins? Will they report positives among vaxxed if they do test everyone? Technically (according to the MWC) they should not be required to test them so why report the results among the vaxxed?

If getting vaxxed doesn't serve as a shield against being tested then I fear we may end up in a repeat of last year because there will be definitely be positives among both un-vaxxed and vaxxed as both sides continue to be carriers and spreaders.

If I remember right players that are vaccinated did not have to go through testing. I don't know what that would entail if someone who is not vaccinated comes down with covid and they do contract tracing and there is a player that is vaccinated that was with them,I don't know if that point they will have to be tested or not.

Players have the right to choose, but in my opinion it is pretty dumb for a player not to at this point. .l have no clue what the percentage of the team that is vaccinated but hopefully they can get it above 80% or as high as 90%.

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/ssi/CO ... ll2021.pdf

I found the NCAA protocols. Interesting notes (if I am reading this right):

Close contact with someone COVID positive for someone unvaccinated is 10 days in quarantine; while someone vaccinated can wear a mask and discontinue if they test negative after 3-5 days.

Testing only when symptomatic for vaccinated individuals. Non-vaccinated will test twice before camp and weekly and within one day of each game.

They are reporting today!!!! Getting all of their 2021 swag, let’s get it! I smell football comin!! Prayers for a fun, memorable and SUCCESSFUL season!!

BLUERUFiO wrote: ↑

August 2nd, 2021, 9:51 am

Is this for a perceived competitive advantage to keep things under lock and key? At the end of the day, I just want to win. So, if this helps, then I'm OK with it. Open to debate: is this realistically a competitive advantage for a small program like ours?

I feel like our pace of play and sets caught Michigan State of guard

taniataylor wrote: ↑

August 5th, 2021, 10:05 am

They are reporting today!!!! Getting all of their 2021 swag, let’s get it! I smell football comin!! Prayers for a fun, memorable and SUCCESSFUL season!!

Good to see you.

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

August 5th, 2021, 10:08 am

taniataylor wrote: ↑

August 5th, 2021, 10:05 am

They are reporting today!!!! Getting all of their 2021 swag, let’s get it! I smell football comin!! Prayers for a fun, memorable and SUCCESSFUL season!!

Good to see you.

Gotta get this final season goin!!!

taniataylor wrote: ↑

August 5th, 2021, 10:19 am

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

August 5th, 2021, 10:08 am

taniataylor wrote: ↑

August 5th, 2021, 10:05 am

They are reporting today!!!! Getting all of their 2021 swag, let’s get it! I smell football comin!! Prayers for a fun, memorable and SUCCESSFUL season!!

Good to see you.

Gotta get this final season goin!!!

You are both part of the family now. There is no such thing as final season. But yes lets all hope for a great last year of eligibility.

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

August 5th, 2021, 10:25 am

taniataylor wrote: ↑

August 5th, 2021, 10:19 am

MWCFAN12 wrote: ↑

August 5th, 2021, 10:08 am

taniataylor wrote: ↑

August 5th, 2021, 10:05 am

They are reporting today!!!! Getting all of their 2021 swag, let’s get it! I smell football comin!! Prayers for a fun, memorable and SUCCESSFUL season!!

Good to see you.

Gotta get this final season goin!!!

You are both part of the family now. There is no such thing as final season. But yes lets all hope for a great last year of eligibility.

JSHarvey wrote: ↑

August 4th, 2021, 10:48 am

163 million fully vaccinated - 1,263 deaths among that group.
About the same number who are not vaccinated - approximate deaths in that group 614,000

Quick honest question. For those who had COVID before a vaccine was available what is are the percentages of them getting COVID a second time and what is the death rate for those who get it a second time.

I ask because I see similar numbers to those you posted all the time but I rarely if ever hear anything about those who have already had COVID. My suspicion is that it doesn't go with the popular narrative but I could be wrong. I think what we need to look at is the percentage of people vaccinated or who have previously had COVID. Those who have had neither and have any comorbidities are the ones that I question their sanity.

The rate of death is so stupid small, especially among this population. Higher chance of motor vehicle accident. Wish people would put it in the rear view mirror and move on. Delta is especially less lethal, more contagious, but nothing to worry about. Let's just play some ball and live.

IdaAg93 wrote: ↑

August 6th, 2021, 5:30 pm

The rate of death is so stupid small, especially among this population. Higher chance of motor vehicle accident. Wish people would put it in the rear view mirror and move on. Delta is especially less lethal, more contagious, but nothing to worry about. Let's just play some ball and live.

The current 7-day average for deaths in Utah due to COVID-19 is 5. The total number of vehicle fatalities last year was 276, which translates to less than one a day. Also not sure where you're getting your claim that Delta is less lethal, although I suspect it will look that way because more people are vaccinated now and have a drastically lower chance of death.

One of the things a number of folks are worried about is the continued evolution of the virus, which happens more quickly the more prevalent it is. The more Delta spreads, the more chances for new variants to emerge. We could end up with one that is resistant to the vaccines we have now, which would be really, really bad news.

I'm as sick of restrictions, mask wearing, etc., as the next guy. I'll even go so far as to say that some policies and recommendations seem to be more knee-jerk reactions than actually based on what is or is not effective. But to say that Delta is no big deal is either wishful thinking or willful ignorance.