KAR related - Washington State fires coach

Aggie702 · Post by **Aggie702** » October 18th, 2021, 5:56 pm

Rolo out as coach at Wash St for refusing to comply with vaccine mandate. He tried to get a religious exemption and was denied.

I'm sure there will be legal proceedings, but if he's unsuccessful he's out the remaining $3.6MM on his contract, and I'm guessing no school is going to look to hire him any time soon. The discussion of whether or not Washington should legally be able to do this and whether or not Rolo should've complied are best suited for the sand box, no need to discuss here.

Figured it was worth updating given we discussed this before our game with Washington State and whether or not it would be a distraction for their team. The mandate was announced in August before our game and employees had until today to comply, get an exemption or lose their job.

Also somewhat relevant to the MWC as last time Washington State had a vacancy they grabbed a MWC coach. Perhaps they will again.

Post by **Aglicious** » October 18th, 2021, 5:58 pm

Dang....and just as they were playing well with the "other" Coogs upcoming. I imagine this will be to the blue Coogs advantage now.

stwinward · Post by **stwinward** » October 18th, 2021, 6:41 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 5:58 pm
Dang....and just as they were playing well with the "other" Coogs upcoming. I imagine this will be to the blue Coogs advantage now.

No, they'll win one for the Gipper.

I know my next comment is sandbox worthy, but...nevermind, I won't go there.

AGGIEinIOWA · Post by **AGGIEinIOWA** » October 18th, 2021, 6:41 pm

Who’s the interim coach?

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » October 18th, 2021, 6:42 pm

stwinward wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 6:41 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 5:58 pm
Dang....and just as they were playing well with the "other" Coogs upcoming. I imagine this will be to the blue Coogs advantage now.
No, they'll win one for the Gipper.

I know my next comment is sandbox worthy, but...nevermind, I won't go there.

Total speculation I think at this point but I read on Twitter (like I said speculation at this point) the players might sit out this next game.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » October 18th, 2021, 6:57 pm

Well, sounds like Rolo won’t be getting his 5G either way, now that he is both out of a job and refuses the vaccine.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » October 18th, 2021, 7:03 pm

4 assistant coaches were also fired.

John Richardson - Assistant HC/CB
Craig Stuzmann - Co-OC/QB
Rick Logo - Defensive tackles
Mark Weber - Offensive Line

https://www.king5.com/article/news/heal ... 8c2856ab0f

Blue Sage · Post by **Blue Sage** » October 18th, 2021, 7:15 pm

Very disappointing news. That’s a shame because I had enjoyed what they had put together.

Blue Sage · Post by **Blue Sage** » October 18th, 2021, 7:21 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 6:42 pm

stwinward wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 6:41 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 5:58 pm
Dang....and just as they were playing well with the "other" Coogs upcoming. I imagine this will be to the blue Coogs advantage now.
No, they'll win one for the Gipper.

I know my next comment is sandbox worthy, but...nevermind, I won't go there.
Total speculation I think at this point but I read on Twitter (like I said speculation at this point) the players might sit out this next game.

I would fully support a sit out. As a fan I would sit it out too. What players do have that we could grab in the portal?

ChowderAggie · Post by **ChowderAggie** » October 18th, 2021, 7:34 pm

Who are some top replacement candidates?

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » October 18th, 2021, 7:44 pm

ChowderAggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Who are some top replacement candidates?

Blake Anderson.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » October 18th, 2021, 7:45 pm

The interim is Jake Dickert the D coordinator who apparently isn’t afraid of a needle.
The Defense has been very good lately and his name will be in the pot. He’s a former Wyoming D coordinator.
Wazzou tends to favor offensive minded coaches

You’d have to think that Graham Harrell at USC fits that profile.

Blue Sage · Post by **Blue Sage** » October 18th, 2021, 7:51 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:44 pm

ChowderAggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Who are some top replacement candidates?
Blake Anderson.

I’d refer them to the UNLV game.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » October 18th, 2021, 8:19 pm

Blue Sage wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:21 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 6:42 pm

stwinward wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 6:41 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 5:58 pm
Dang....and just as they were playing well with the "other" Coogs upcoming. I imagine this will be to the blue Coogs advantage now.
No, they'll win one for the Gipper.

I know my next comment is sandbox worthy, but...nevermind, I won't go there.
Total speculation I think at this point but I read on Twitter (like I said speculation at this point) the players might sit out this next game.
I would fully support a sit out. As a fan I would sit it out too. What players do have that we could grab in the portal?

The qb from American fork.

Stucki · Post by **Stucki** » October 18th, 2021, 8:24 pm

I get that some people are really opposed to getting vaccinated, but to give up a $3 mil plus year a job for it?

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » October 18th, 2021, 8:29 pm

Stucki wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:24 pm
I get that some people are really opposed to getting vaccinated, but to give up a $3 mil plus year a job for it?

At least the puts his money where his mouth is

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » October 18th, 2021, 8:31 pm

ChowderAggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Who are some top replacement candidates?

I can see Jay Hill, Craig Bohl, or Jeff Grimes being candidates. EWU is kicking tail this year too, I’m sure that isn’t going unnoticed.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » October 18th, 2021, 8:32 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:29 pm

Stucki wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:24 pm
I get that some people are really opposed to getting vaccinated, but to give up a $3 mil plus year a job for it?
At least the puts his money where his mouth is

True but he also probably has enough money that 6 months of unemployment and he will be fine. But you
Make a good point.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » October 18th, 2021, 8:32 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:31 pm

ChowderAggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Who are some top replacement candidates?
I can see Jay Hill, Craig Bohl, or Jeff Grimes being candidates. EWU is kicking tail this year too, I’m sure that isn’t going unnoticed.

Do pac12 schools hire fcs guys very often?

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » October 18th, 2021, 8:34 pm

slcagg wrote:
Blue Sage wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:21 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 6:42 pm

stwinward wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 6:41 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 5:58 pm
Dang....and just as they were playing well with the "other" Coogs upcoming. I imagine this will be to the blue Coogs advantage now.
No, they'll win one for the Gipper.

I know my next comment is sandbox worthy, but...nevermind, I won't go there.
Total speculation I think at this point but I read on Twitter (like I said speculation at this point) the players might sit out this next game.
I would fully support a sit out. As a fan I would sit it out too. What players do have that we could grab in the portal?
The qb from American fork.

Lehi

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Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » October 18th, 2021, 8:38 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:32 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:31 pm

ChowderAggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Who are some top replacement candidates?
I can see Jay Hill, Craig Bohl, or Jeff Grimes being candidates. EWU is kicking tail this year too, I’m sure that isn’t going unnoticed.
Do pac12 schools hire fcs guys very often?

I think Utah hires Jay Hill when Kyle W retires now that Scalley is out as “coach in waiting”.

And it may be sooner than later.

Sl7vk · Post by **Sl7vk** » October 18th, 2021, 8:58 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:32 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:31 pm

ChowderAggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Who are some top replacement candidates?
I can see Jay Hill, Craig Bohl, or Jeff Grimes being candidates. EWU is kicking tail this year too, I’m sure that isn’t going unnoticed.

Do pac12 schools hire fcs guys very often?

No.

None of those coaches will be at WSU next year.

They are all too small time and they are all defensive minded guys with the exception of Grimey.

Norvell could be a viable option though.
I think Brennan waited one year too many at sjsu

And no, Jay Hill will not be coaching the U anytime soon.

GrandPoubah · Post by **GrandPoubah** » October 18th, 2021, 9:23 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:32 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:31 pm

ChowderAggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Who are some top replacement candidates?
I can see Jay Hill, Craig Bohl, or Jeff Grimes being candidates. EWU is kicking tail this year too, I’m sure that isn’t going unnoticed.
Do pac12 schools hire fcs guys very often?

No way - that guy is not a front man for a P5 school.

trombone_ninja · Post by **trombone_ninja** » October 18th, 2021, 9:47 pm

Wazzu isn't gonna go after an FCS coach, they're gonna go after a solid G5 coach and let the G5 school deal with coaching candidates from FCS

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » October 18th, 2021, 9:48 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:58 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:32 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:31 pm

ChowderAggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Who are some top replacement candidates?
I can see Jay Hill, Craig Bohl, or Jeff Grimes being candidates. EWU is kicking tail this year too, I’m sure that isn’t going unnoticed.

Do pac12 schools hire fcs guys very often?
No.

None of those coaches will be at WSU next year.

They are all too small time and they are all defensive minded guys with the exception of Grimey.

Norvell could be a viable option though.
I think Brennan waited one year too many at sjsu

And no, Jay Hill will not be coaching the U anytime soon.

Who will UU hire when Whittingham retires? He’s getting to the age where he wanted to retire. I see him retiring in 2-3 years.

I don’t think the Scalley thing will ever truly blow over. Look what happened to Gruden who did NOT use the N Word.

Hill is highly regarded at Utah. Hill removed his own name from the DC role when Sitake left for Oregon State. Maybe that was to save face, but I wouldn’t be quick to dismiss the idea.

Why wouldn’t Utah consider Hill?

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » October 18th, 2021, 10:03 pm

Here’s a list of candidates for WSU:

- Jay Norvell, Nevada head coach.
- Kalen Deboer, Fresno state head coach
- Joe Moorhead, Oregon offensive coordinator
- Jake Dickert, Washington state defensive coordinator
- Graham Harrell, former USC offensive coordinator
- Craig Bohl, Wyoming head coach
- Brady Hoke, SDSU head coach
- Blake Anderson, USU head coach

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » October 18th, 2021, 10:05 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 9:48 pm

Sl7vk wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:58 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:32 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 8:31 pm

ChowderAggie wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Who are some top replacement candidates?
I can see Jay Hill, Craig Bohl, or Jeff Grimes being candidates. EWU is kicking tail this year too, I’m sure that isn’t going unnoticed.

Do pac12 schools hire fcs guys very often?
No.

None of those coaches will be at WSU next year.

They are all too small time and they are all defensive minded guys with the exception of Grimey.

Norvell could be a viable option though.
I think Brennan waited one year too many at sjsu

And no, Jay Hill will not be coaching the U anytime soon.
Who will UU hire when Whittingham retires? He’s getting to the age where he wanted to retire. I see him retiring in 2-3 years.

I don’t think the Scalley thing will ever truly blow over. Look what happened to Gruden who did NOT use the N Word.

Hill is highly regarded at Utah. Hill removed his own name from the DC role when Sitake left for Oregon State. Maybe that was to save face, but I wouldn’t be quick to dismiss the idea.

Why wouldn’t Utah consider Hill?

There’s 0 chance Utah will hire Jay Hill as head coach. They see themselves as being Utah, a big time p5 program. They’ll make a splash hire, not an fcs head coach.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » October 18th, 2021, 10:12 pm

Matt Wells (jk- maybe if TT was more mediocre this year), Tom Herman, or Jim McElwain.

That’s the type of coach I see WSU attracted to. McElwain because they like nut cases as evidenced by last 2 coaches.

jpswensen · Post by **jpswensen** » October 18th, 2021, 10:14 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:03 pm
4 assistant coaches were also fired.

John Richardson - Assistant HC/CB
Craig Stuzmann - Co-OC/QB
Rick Logo - Defensive tackles
Mark Weber - Offensive Line

https://www.king5.com/article/news/heal ... 8c2856ab0f

Former Aggie and BYU coach Mark Weber, right?

WAAggie · Post by **WAAggie** » October 18th, 2021, 10:19 pm

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GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » October 18th, 2021, 10:45 pm

jpswensen wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 10:14 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:03 pm
4 assistant coaches were also fired.

John Richardson - Assistant HC/CB
Craig Stuzmann - Co-OC/QB
Rick Logo - Defensive tackles
Mark Weber - Offensive Line

https://www.king5.com/article/news/heal ... 8c2856ab0f
Former Aggie and BYU coach Mark Weber, right?

Yes.

bull · Post by **bull** » October 18th, 2021, 11:15 pm

I loose track of these guys, am I thinking correct that our line got a lot better after Weber left? Seems like I was surprised he got the offer he did.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » October 18th, 2021, 11:29 pm

bull wrote:I loose track of these guys, am I thinking correct that our line got a lot better after Weber left? Seems like I was surprised he got the offer he did.

No

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3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » October 19th, 2021, 9:46 am

Blue Sage wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 7:21 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 6:42 pm

stwinward wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 6:41 pm

Aglicious wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 5:58 pm
Dang....and just as they were playing well with the "other" Coogs upcoming. I imagine this will be to the blue Coogs advantage now.
No, they'll win one for the Gipper.

I know my next comment is sandbox worthy, but...nevermind, I won't go there.
Total speculation I think at this point but I read on Twitter (like I said speculation at this point) the players might sit out this next game.
I would fully support a sit out. As a fan I would sit it out too. What players do have that we could grab in the portal?

They had some big o-linemen. I certainly wouldn't mind one or two of those guys.

I don't know how good he is, but they've got a big sophomore named Roderick Tialavea from WVC, UT. I feel like there's a good chance we have a connection there.

Edit: Just checked and he's DJ's cousin. He needs to transfer here.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » October 19th, 2021, 9:53 am

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
October 18th, 2021, 10:03 pm
Here’s a list of candidates for WSU:

- Jay Norvell, Nevada head coach.
- Kalen Deboer, Fresno state head coach
- Joe Moorhead, Oregon offensive coordinator
- Jake Dickert, Washington state defensive coordinator
- Graham Harrell, former USC offensive coordinator
- Craig Bohl, Wyoming head coach
- Brady Hoke, SDSU head coach
- Blake Anderson, USU head coach

I think that Chun has had his guy picked out for a while now, (before the season). So I would be shocked if it were Blake Anderson. And we tsin wouldn't have been on Chuns radar until after the season started.

Could be Harrell, he had been an assistant st WSU but repeatedly turned down the job last time around because he did not like Pullman. But it is very possible that his circumstances have changed and he has less perceived options. I could see any other the other ones.

If Chuns previous hires are any indication it will be someone who does very well in a smaller school on the west coast. My bets are Deboer and Norvell.

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