I re-watched the play

SLB · Post by **SLB** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:33 pm

The FG attempt should not have happen in the first place. The play clock said 15 seconds ran off before the snap when there was only 11 seconds left after the previous play.

AgTime · Post by **AgTime** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:37 pm

Yeah, I though that very thing while at the stadium tonight. No idea why the clock was not running long before it actually started.

coolag · Post by **coolag** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:37 pm

Just like new mexico and Matt Wells. Kinda creepy actually.

Bybs25 · Post by **Bybs25** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:37 pm

SLB wrote:The FG attempt should not have happen in the first place. The play clock said 15 seconds ran off before the snap when there was only 11 seconds left after the previous play.

So the play clock starts as soon as the previous play is over. The game clock starts when the chains are set.

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aggiesdidwhat · Post by **aggiesdidwhat** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:39 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:33 pm
The FG attempt should not have happen in the first place. The play clock said 15 seconds ran off before the snap when there was only 11 seconds left after the previous play.

They got a first down. Don't the chains have to be set? But they for sure had a false start multiple times haha

SLB · Post by **SLB** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:40 pm

Bybs25 wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:37 pm

SLB wrote:The FG attempt should not have happen in the first place. The play clock said 15 seconds ran off before the snap when there was only 11 seconds left after the previous play.

So the play clock starts as soon as the previous play is over. The game clock starts when the chains are set.

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The play clock didn't start until the chains were moved.

usubobcat · Post by **usubobcat** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:40 pm

What about substitutions? If they sub players in and out, doesn't that mean we should have been able to as well, which would have run the clock out?

elcheque2 · Post by **elcheque2** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:40 pm

Bybs25 wrote:
SLB wrote:The FG attempt should not have happen in the first place. The play clock said 15 seconds ran off before the snap when there was only 11 seconds left after the previous play.

So the play clock starts as soon as the previous play is over. The game clock starts when the chains are set.

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You can see the game clock start as soon as the chains are set and the white hat makes the signal.

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Dkdavis · Post by **Dkdavis** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:41 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:40 pm

Bybs25 wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:37 pm

SLB wrote:The FG attempt should not have happen in the first place. The play clock said 15 seconds ran off before the snap when there was only 11 seconds left after the previous play.

So the play clock starts as soon as the previous play is over. The game clock starts when the chains are set.

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The play clock didn't start until the chains were moved.

Felt like it took an eternity to move those chains!

SLB · Post by **SLB** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:41 pm

usubobcat wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:40 pm
What about substitutions? If they sub players in and out, doesn't that mean we should have been able to as well, which would have run the clock out?

I am pretty sure they committed sub flags on top of that.

AGNUMPI · Post by **AGNUMPI** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:42 pm

usubobcat wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:40 pm
What about substitutions? If they sub players in and out, doesn't that mean we should have been able to as well, which would have run the clock out?

This is true. Without the spike there should have been no kick. Not sure who messed up, but I want to send them something nice this Christmas.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:43 pm

The chain gang was diddly daddling. They started the clock when they were set. It looked like CSU was getting in the way of that chain gang too.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:43 pm

Dkdavis wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:41 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:40 pm

Bybs25 wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:37 pm

SLB wrote:The FG attempt should not have happen in the first place. The play clock said 15 seconds ran off before the snap when there was only 11 seconds left after the previous play.

So the play clock starts as soon as the previous play is over. The game clock starts when the chains are set.

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The play clock didn't start until the chains were moved.
Felt like it took an eternity to move those chains!

This seconds delayed on the play clock before it even started. It is pretty clear that the clock should be 0 before the snap.

AGNUMPI · Post by **AGNUMPI** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:44 pm

Dkdavis wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:41 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:40 pm

Bybs25 wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:37 pm

SLB wrote:The FG attempt should not have happen in the first place. The play clock said 15 seconds ran off before the snap when there was only 11 seconds left after the previous play.

So the play clock starts as soon as the previous play is over. The game clock starts when the chains are set.

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The play clock didn't start until the chains were moved.
Felt like it took an eternity to move those chains!

And the ref resetting the ball was moving at light speed. When we are trying to hurry up like that, it seems like the ref stands over the ball letting the other team get set up even though we didn't sub.

swordsman1989 · Post by **swordsman1989** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:46 pm

AGNUMPI wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:44 pm

Dkdavis wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:41 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:40 pm

Bybs25 wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:37 pm

SLB wrote:The FG attempt should not have happen in the first place. The play clock said 15 seconds ran off before the snap when there was only 11 seconds left after the previous play.

So the play clock starts as soon as the previous play is over. The game clock starts when the chains are set.

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The play clock didn't start until the chains were moved.
Felt like it took an eternity to move those chains!
And the ref resetting the ball was moving at light speed. When we are trying to hurry up like that, it seems like the ref stands over the ball letting the other team get set up even though we didn't sub.

CSU subbed, which means the clock should have been running, with the official blocking CSU from snapping it, while we substituted. The clock should have run out before CSU had the chance to snap it if the officials were doing their job correctly.

AGNUMPI · Post by **AGNUMPI** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:47 pm

The mustache dude on the chain gang with the "wow" after CSU's coach yells at everyone over there.

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:49 pm

Regardless, CSU lost that game a lot more than we won it. But I'll take it...

SLB · Post by **SLB** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:50 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:49 pm
Regardless, CSU lost that game a lot more than we won it. But I'll take it...

At times like this play, the officials wanted the Rams to win but Rams said no.

Post by **AGinNEIowa** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:51 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:43 pm

Dkdavis wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:41 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:40 pm

Bybs25 wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:37 pm

SLB wrote:The FG attempt should not have happen in the first place. The play clock said 15 seconds ran off before the snap when there was only 11 seconds left after the previous play.

So the play clock starts as soon as the previous play is over. The game clock starts when the chains are set.

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The play clock didn't start until the chains were moved.
Felt like it took an eternity to move those chains!
This seconds delayed on the play clock before it even started. It is pretty clear that the clock should be 0 before the snap.

I went back to the two prior first downs and stopwatched the time between player down and clock running.

From the time the player was down until the clock ran this is my measurements at these junctures -
at 39 seconds first down was made at the CS 43 - 12 seconds of real time passed before clock started
at 23 seconds first down was made at the US 39 - 8 seconds
at 12 seconds first down was made at the US 27 - 16 seconds

swordsman1989 · Post by **swordsman1989** » October 22nd, 2021, 11:59 pm

Look at the guy on the far left (CSU's left) of the CSU line as the ball was snapped. He was never set. So should have been a false start on CSU and a ten second run off. Feeling less and less bad about the win.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » October 23rd, 2021, 12:03 am

swordsman1989 wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:59 pm
Look at the guy on the far left (CSU's left) of the CSU line as the ball was snapped. He was never set. So should have been a false start on CSU and a ten second run off. Feeling less and less bad about the win.

It was clearly not a legal play, and the snap should not have been. The refs and officials wanted Colorado State to win.

stwinward · Post by **stwinward** » October 23rd, 2021, 12:06 am

And it was karma for the muffed punt fumble recovery that was stolen from us, so yeah, I don't feel bad either.

hickaggie · Post by **hickaggie** » October 23rd, 2021, 12:07 am

I think I counted almost 45 seconds that USU left on the clock on their last fg drive by not running the clock down to 1 or 2 so hhe aggies didn't help themselves either.

Csu must dread this game right now. 2 times in 4 years that something crazy has taken away a win.

I'll take it though

SLB · Post by **SLB** » October 23rd, 2021, 12:08 am

stwinward wrote: ↑
October 23rd, 2021, 12:06 am
And it was karma for the muffed punt fumble recovery that was stolen from us, so yeah, I don't feel bad either.

The defensive holding call lol
3 targetings that didn't get called.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » October 23rd, 2021, 12:10 am

Why would you feel bad about winning?

You dont have to justify a win. Us having more points than they do justifies the win all on its own

Blue Sage · Post by **Blue Sage** » October 23rd, 2021, 12:33 am

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
October 23rd, 2021, 12:10 am
Why would you feel bad about winning?

You dont have to justify a win. Us having more points than they do justifies the win all on its own

Well it’s not like CSU lost by that much or like he missed the field goal by that much so…. Oh wait loosing is still loosing.

BeNo · Post by **BeNo** » October 23rd, 2021, 1:51 am

AGNUMPI wrote: ↑
October 22nd, 2021, 11:47 pm
The mustache dude on the chain gang with the "wow" after CSU's coach yells at everyone over there.

Thanks for catching that and pointing it out. The look on his face when he says it is hilarious.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » October 23rd, 2021, 1:53 am

At a minimum the guy was not set and it was a false start. Since it was a penalty with the clock running and CSU had no timeouts there would have been 10 second run off and the game is over. Terrible officiating.

Empire of Dirt · Post by **Empire of Dirt** » October 23rd, 2021, 10:02 am

hickaggie wrote: ↑
October 23rd, 2021, 12:07 am
I think I counted almost 45 seconds that USU left on the clock on their last fg drive by not running the clock down to 1 or 2 so hhe aggies didn't help themselves either.

Csu must dread this game right now. 2 times in 4 years that something crazy has taken away a win.

I'll take it though

I just rewatched it. It was 1:03 if they take it to 0 every time the clock was running.

That seems like a big deal.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » October 23rd, 2021, 10:22 am

hickaggie wrote: ↑
October 23rd, 2021, 12:07 am
I think I counted almost 45 seconds that USU left on the clock on their last fg drive by not running the clock down to 1 or 2 so hhe aggies didn't help themselves either.

Csu must dread this game right now. 2 times in 4 years that something crazy has taken away a win.

I'll take it though

3 time in 4 years. They would have won last year.

WAaggieFan · Post by **WAaggieFan** » October 23rd, 2021, 10:28 am

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
October 23rd, 2021, 10:22 am

hickaggie wrote: ↑
October 23rd, 2021, 12:07 am
I think I counted almost 45 seconds that USU left on the clock on their last fg drive by not running the clock down to 1 or 2 so hhe aggies didn't help themselves either.

Csu must dread this game right now. 2 times in 4 years that something crazy has taken away a win.

I'll take it though
3 time in 4 years. They would have won last year.

trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » October 23rd, 2021, 11:21 am

It seems all CSU has for coaching special teams is a Quality Control guy, no coach. LOL

https://csurams.com/sports/football/coa ... %20rows%20

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » October 23rd, 2021, 11:28 am

trevordude wrote: ↑
October 23rd, 2021, 11:21 am
It seems all CSU has for coaching special teams is a Quality Control guy, no coach. LOL

https://csurams.com/sports/football/coa ... %20rows%20

Which is dumb, special teams are so important and deserve to have a full time coach or coaches dedicated to them. The best special teams coach we had here was the guy that Wells hired, I can't remember his name but he was awesome.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » October 23rd, 2021, 11:51 am

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
October 23rd, 2021, 10:22 am

hickaggie wrote: ↑
October 23rd, 2021, 12:07 am
I think I counted almost 45 seconds that USU left on the clock on their last fg drive by not running the clock down to 1 or 2 so hhe aggies didn't help themselves either.

Csu must dread this game right now. 2 times in 4 years that something crazy has taken away a win.

I'll take it though
3 times in 4 years. They would have won last year.

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