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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by garyismyhomeboy » November 3rd, 2022, 3:17 pm

A current and former head coach confirmed to me that a certain male administrator would bag on John whenever an opportunity. There was more of a divide than publicly known.

Sad for all Aggie fans that the Game of Thrones was played in our backyard.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by AggieGrad2021 » November 3rd, 2022, 3:35 pm

garyismyhomeboy wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 3:17 pm
A current and former head coach confirmed to me that a certain male administrator would bag on John whenever an opportunity. There was more of a divide than publicly known.

Sad for all Aggie fans that the Game of Thrones was played in our backyard.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by Intermeddler » November 3rd, 2022, 3:47 pm

garyismyhomeboy wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 3:17 pm
A current and former head coach confirmed to me that a certain male administrator would bag on John whenever an opportunity. There was more of a divide than publicly known.

Sad for all Aggie fans that the Game of Thrones was played in our backyard.
A lot of backstabbing in the AD. Lots directed at John from various sources.



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by dogie » November 3rd, 2022, 3:49 pm

sammyhagar wrote:
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Tom and Hartwell were VERY VERY close, good friends.....Hopefully the money is in the bank.
I know Tom, and I’m sure he will follow through if he hasn’t already done so. I was in the room in March when the indoor practice facility was pitched and Tom ponied up.



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by AngusAg » November 3rd, 2022, 4:54 pm

Who do I sue?

I haven't seen this much drama since my wife's father passed away and we had to deal with her siblings. Man, I've lost track; who do I cheer for or against now?



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by USU78 » November 3rd, 2022, 4:58 pm

AngusAg wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 4:54 pm
Who do I sue?

I haven't seen this much drama since my wife's father passed away and we had to deal with her siblings. Man, I've lost track; who do I cheer for or against now?
The stench. Always cheer against the stench.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by MWCFAN12 » November 3rd, 2022, 5:01 pm

AggieGrad2021 wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 1:58 pm
MWCFAN12 wrote:
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This seems to be picking up steam. There may be a housecleaning forthcoming.
It might go beyond house cleaning
What’s beyond a house cleaning?

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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by flying_scotsman2.0 » November 3rd, 2022, 7:14 pm

Let’s just say Cockett didn’t “make” those cookies for students just to be a kind, motherly figure.



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by bluegrouse » November 3rd, 2022, 9:23 pm

ineptimusprime wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 12:53 pm
Can those really in the know answer me one question?

Other than the school’s continuous mishandling of sexual assault issues (a big issue), does any of the nastiness going on in or around the University right now rise above the level of petty, junior high-level (I can't express myself without swearing)? Because if not, I am getting back to work.
Seriously. The level of immaturity is more embarrassing than the actual actions (with the exception of the sexual assault stuff which I agree is a big deal.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by NVAggie » November 4th, 2022, 8:39 am

MWCFAN12 wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 5:01 pm
AggieGrad2021 wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 1:58 pm
MWCFAN12 wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 1:55 pm
Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 1:48 pm
This seems to be picking up steam. There may be a housecleaning forthcoming.
It might go beyond house cleaning
What’s beyond a house cleaning?

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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by Madmartigan » November 4th, 2022, 8:53 am

bluegrouse wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 9:23 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 12:53 pm
Can those really in the know answer me one question?

Other than the school’s continuous mishandling of sexual assault issues (a big issue), does any of the nastiness going on in or around the University right now rise above the level of petty, junior high-level (I can't express myself without swearing)? Because if not, I am getting back to work.
Seriously. The level of immaturity is more embarrassing than the actual actions (with the exception of the sexual assault stuff which I agree is a big deal.
This is why a total reset of the internal AD culture maybe necessary. Depending on what comes out, mr or mrs outside hire might be the best option. A cleaning of the house wouldn't be bad if it restores adult behavior and a less toxic work environment for those employed at the USU AD.

The outsized amount of scandals (real or imagined) that Hartwell and Cockett have presided over in their tenure is alarming.



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by Agzrule » November 4th, 2022, 9:06 am

Madmartigan wrote:
November 4th, 2022, 8:53 am
bluegrouse wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 9:23 pm
ineptimusprime wrote:
November 3rd, 2022, 12:53 pm
Can those really in the know answer me one question?

Other than the school’s continuous mishandling of sexual assault issues (a big issue), does any of the nastiness going on in or around the University right now rise above the level of petty, junior high-level (I can't express myself without swearing)? Because if not, I am getting back to work.
Seriously. The level of immaturity is more embarrassing than the actual actions (with the exception of the sexual assault stuff which I agree is a big deal.
This is why a total reset of the internal AD culture maybe necessary. Depending on what comes out, mr or mrs outside hire might be the best option. A cleaning of the house wouldn't be bad if it restores adult behavior and a less toxic work environment for those employed at the USU AD.

The outsized amount of scandals (real or imagined) that Hartwell and Cockett have presided over in their tenure is alarming.
I agree, I personally feel we need to really clean house all the way from the top down.



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by jimbo » November 21st, 2022, 7:23 pm

The next domino falls tomorrow.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by AggiePT » November 21st, 2022, 7:28 pm

jimbo wrote:
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The next domino falls tomorrow.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by AggieGrad2021 » November 21st, 2022, 7:33 pm

jimbo wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 7:23 pm
The next domino falls tomorrow.
What do you know Jimbo. Ard? Cockett herself? We need a hint



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by USU78 » November 21st, 2022, 7:35 pm

Red Burnett dropped a dime on Rance AND Swede Larson.


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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by Dwigt » November 21st, 2022, 7:40 pm

jimbo wrote:
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The next domino falls tomorrow.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by coolag » November 21st, 2022, 7:41 pm

jimbo wrote:
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The next domino falls tomorrow.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by Blitz79 » November 21st, 2022, 8:37 pm

Time to start looking? Who takes over in the mean time?



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by Aggiefan160 » November 21st, 2022, 8:53 pm

I just can’t follow the soap opera that is this board/USU Sports (not sure which is really the soap opera at this point) but can someone give me a straightforward explanation of what’s going on? The end of Gary 2.0, Hartwell’s termination, Coach Ard’s supposed past (and possibly current?) relationships, and president Cockett’s ulterior motives in baking cookies. I am lost.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by GordoAggie » November 21st, 2022, 8:57 pm

Blake ????
Bovee???
Ard???
Cockett??
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by flying_scotsman2.0 » November 21st, 2022, 9:05 pm

Aggiefan160 wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 8:53 pm
I just can’t follow the soap opera that is this board/USU Sports (not sure which is really the soap opera at this point) but can someone give me a straightforward explanation of what’s going on? The end of Gary 2.0, Hartwell’s termination, Coach Ard’s supposed past (and possibly current?) relationships, and president Cockett’s ulterior motives in baking cookies. I am lost.
The cookies had microchips. And all this time we thought it was the COVID vaccine.



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by bpd » November 21st, 2022, 10:49 pm

I don’t know anything about cookies, but just reading in between the lines I’m guessing that Cockett is gonzo.



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Post by Intermeddler » November 21st, 2022, 10:57 pm

bpd wrote:
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I don’t know anything about cookies, but just reading in between the lines I’m guessing that Cockett is gonzo.
I think you’ll be proven right. I’ve heard Scott Wyatt may be the interim replacement



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by rAggie » November 21st, 2022, 11:18 pm

Intermeddler wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 10:57 pm
bpd wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 10:49 pm
I don’t know anything about cookies, but just reading in between the lines I’m guessing that Cockett is gonzo.
I think you’ll be proven right. I’ve heard Scott Wyatt may be the interim replacement
Nothing against Scott at all but I can’t believe this would be feasible. Would a major research university put a lawyer at the head? Why bring him in as interim if he isn’t qualified for the job? If I’m wrong let me know, I just would think that the president of a Carnegie 1 research institution would be someone with academic bona fides


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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by GameFAQSAggie » November 21st, 2022, 11:28 pm

rAggie wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 11:18 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 10:57 pm
bpd wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 10:49 pm
I don’t know anything about cookies, but just reading in between the lines I’m guessing that Cockett is gonzo.
I think you’ll be proven right. I’ve heard Scott Wyatt may be the interim replacement
Nothing against Scott at all but I can’t believe this would be feasible. Would a major research university put a lawyer at the head? Why bring him in as interim if he isn’t qualified for the job? If I’m wrong let me know, I just would think that the president of a Carnegie 1 research institution would be someone with academic bona fides
It's fairly common for interim replacements to not be qualified to have the job permanently. Fred Hunsaker and Ken White are far from qualified to be the permanent AD but they got by on an interim basis.



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by Intermeddler » November 21st, 2022, 11:31 pm

rAggie wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 11:18 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 10:57 pm
bpd wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 10:49 pm
I don’t know anything about cookies, but just reading in between the lines I’m guessing that Cockett is gonzo.
I think you’ll be proven right. I’ve heard Scott Wyatt may be the interim replacement
Nothing against Scott at all but I can’t believe this would be feasible. Would a major research university put a lawyer at the head? Why bring him in as interim if he isn’t qualified for the job? If I’m wrong let me know, I just would think that the president of a Carnegie 1 research institution would be someone with academic bona fides
I don’t think it would be permanent but I’ve been told he might be thought of as a good steward through the upcoming litigation minefield we’re likely facing.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by LarryTheAggie » November 21st, 2022, 11:32 pm

rAggie wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 11:18 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 10:57 pm
bpd wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 10:49 pm
I don’t know anything about cookies, but just reading in between the lines I’m guessing that Cockett is gonzo.
I think you’ll be proven right. I’ve heard Scott Wyatt may be the interim replacement
Nothing against Scott at all but I can’t believe this would be feasible. Would a major research university put a lawyer at the head? Why bring him in as interim if he isn’t qualified for the job? If I’m wrong let me know, I just would think that the president of a Carnegie 1 research institution would be someone with academic bona fides
He was the president of SUU and from what I hear he did a very good job there. That should qualify him to the interim at USU.

Though it does seem odd to bring someone from off campus to be the interim. If it were me I would make Dean Anderson from the business school the interim until he retires in like 2 years. He has done a real lot to raise the profile of the business school but is old enough and close enough to retirement that he is probably not looking to be anything more than interim.
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by aggieguy13 » November 21st, 2022, 11:44 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 11:32 pm
rAggie wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 11:18 pm
Intermeddler wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 10:57 pm
bpd wrote:
November 21st, 2022, 10:49 pm
I don’t know anything about cookies, but just reading in between the lines I’m guessing that Cockett is gonzo.
I think you’ll be proven right. I’ve heard Scott Wyatt may be the interim replacement
Nothing against Scott at all but I can’t believe this would be feasible. Would a major research university put a lawyer at the head? Why bring him in as interim if he isn’t qualified for the job? If I’m wrong let me know, I just would think that the president of a Carnegie 1 research institution would be someone with academic bona fides
He was the president of SUU and from what I hear he did a very good job there. That should qualify him to the interim at USU.

Though it does seem odd to bring someone from off campus to be the interim. If it were me I would make Dean Anderson from the business school the interim until he retires in like 2 years. He has done a real lot to raise the profile of the business school but is old enough and close enough to retirement that he is probably not looking to be anything more than interim.
I like that idea. His father held some notable administrative positions at USC as well, interestingly enough.



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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by Roy McAvoy » November 22nd, 2022, 6:51 am

Could it actually be Cockett??
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by Ag4life » November 22nd, 2022, 7:16 am

For what it’s worth, Scott Wyatt was kind of working at usu not too long ago.

On a list for possible interim Presidents related to USU that I can think of:
Scott Wyatt
Dean Anderson
Ken white
Robert Wagner
Larry Smith
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by flying_scotsman2.0 » November 22nd, 2022, 7:25 am

Ag4life wrote:
November 22nd, 2022, 7:16 am
For what it’s worth, Scott Wyatt was kind of working on campus roughly a year ago. Something to do with USHE and reviewing curriculum. Not that it means anything related to this, just that he could be a possibility.

On a list for possible interim Presidents related to USU:
Scott Wyatt
Dean Anderson
Ken white
Robert Wagner
Larry Smith
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Post by AggieGrad2021 » November 22nd, 2022, 7:29 am

Roy McAvoy wrote:
November 22nd, 2022, 6:51 am
Could it actually be Cockett??
My friend associated with the School Student Leadership has a feeling it’s Cockett
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Re: Hartwell potentially on the move?

Post by Imakeitrain » November 22nd, 2022, 7:31 am

Someone needs to step up and tell a certain donor who lives on the island with a boner for Gary to piss off



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