Davon Booth to Transfer

hickaggie · Post by **hickaggie** » April 18th, 2024, 2:14 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:58 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:56 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:46 pm
People are coming with NIL excuses for BA. This is a BA problem. We have not been a winning team since 2021. At this point, we are trying to time BA and his buyout on when to hire the next coach.
When losing, recruits are more willing to leave.
Everybody ragged on Matt Wells for having very similar results as Coach Anderson has had. The only coach that inexplicably gets a pass for poor results has been Gary Andersen.
Wells did much better than BA. BA was the one-year wonder.

I think we are being a bit harsh with BA. Wells went through the same issues until he was forced to hire a real OC. The offense was good enough to compete for the MW and is going to be really good this year. If the new DC even gets the Aggies in the top 90 in D they are going to have a good year.

bigblue32 · Post by **bigblue32** » April 18th, 2024, 2:14 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:10 pm
Just makes appreciate even more players like Kotsanlee, Jacob Garcia, Otto Tia and lot of others that have been with the team for several years and are proud to don the Aggie uniform and stay true to USU.

I mean I agree but I have a hard time thinking any player on our team is still in Aggie blue when offered 150k and a truck. :/ sucks but just being realistic. 90 miles south isn’t terribly far to stay in touch with friends and gf’s etc and they now have real money.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 18th, 2024, 2:18 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:14 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:58 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:56 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:46 pm
People are coming with NIL excuses for BA. This is a BA problem. We have not been a winning team since 2021. At this point, we are trying to time BA and his buyout on when to hire the next coach.
When losing, recruits are more willing to leave.
Everybody ragged on Matt Wells for having very similar results as Coach Anderson has had. The only coach that inexplicably gets a pass for poor results has been Gary Andersen.
Wells did much better than BA. BA was the one-year wonder.
I think we are being a bit harsh with BA. Wells went through the same issues until he was forced to hire a real OC. The offense was good enough to compete for the MW and is going to be really good this year. If the new DC even gets the Aggies in the top 90 in D they are going to have a good year.

I have my doubts.
The last road win against above .500 team was the LA bowl.
The last home win against above .500 team was against Air Force in the early-mid 2022 season.

BasketballAgg · Post by **BasketballAgg** » April 18th, 2024, 2:18 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:05 pm

BasketballAgg wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:01 pm
I think the time for a new era is here. Blake Anderson is not the guy we want running our program in the new NIL era.
What would BasketballAgg know about Aggie Football?

I did use to be FootballAgg

EngineeringAggie · Post by **EngineeringAggie** » April 18th, 2024, 2:20 pm

Sounds like Kyle is afraid to play in Logan. Now’s he’s buying out our best players

hickaggie · Post by **hickaggie** » April 18th, 2024, 2:22 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:18 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:14 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:58 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:56 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:46 pm
People are coming with NIL excuses for BA. This is a BA problem. We have not been a winning team since 2021. At this point, we are trying to time BA and his buyout on when to hire the next coach.
When losing, recruits are more willing to leave.
Everybody ragged on Matt Wells for having very similar results as Coach Anderson has had. The only coach that inexplicably gets a pass for poor results has been Gary Andersen.
Wells did much better than BA. BA was the one-year wonder.
I think we are being a bit harsh with BA. Wells went through the same issues until he was forced to hire a real OC. The offense was good enough to compete for the MW and is going to be really good this year. If the new DC even gets the Aggies in the top 90 in D they are going to have a good year.
I have my doubts.
The last road win against above .500 team was the LA bowl.
The last home win against above .500 team was against Air Force in the early-mid 2022 season.

Yes, but most of that was due to a horrible DC hiring. I think he made a good hire this time. Are we gonna be BSU or SDSU with Blake? Of course not, but I think he can consistently put up seasons in the 6-9 win range which is about as much as can be asked at this point.

Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » April 18th, 2024, 2:29 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:52 pm
Blake Anderson isn't the problem. The collective isn't the problem. Booth got poached. Fitzgerald got poached. We cannot keep up with the offers that are flowing in from P4 schools. This is an unsustainable model for MOST G5 schools, their donors, and their fan bases.

Collectives need to make kids sign contracts with buyouts. If they take our collective money they need to give it back or pay a buyout, pretty simple
Solution.

Just like Danny sprinkle.

Find talent, develop talent, if they leave because a bigger school wants to pay their buyout, so be it. Our collective grows.

Show me an enforceable rule that doesn’t allow it.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » April 18th, 2024, 2:29 pm

BasketballAgg wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:18 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:05 pm

BasketballAgg wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:01 pm
I think the time for a new era is here. Blake Anderson is not the guy we want running our program in the new NIL era.
What would BasketballAgg know about Aggie Football?
I did use to be FootballAgg

Shall we petition the mods to reinstate you as FootballAgg?

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » April 18th, 2024, 2:34 pm

This is the new reality as long as we can compete with peer schools that's fine. There is a pecking order and we are in the middle. We will take lower level guys and flame outs at bigger schools and the bigger schools will take our top players and around and around we go.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 18th, 2024, 2:39 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:29 pm

BasketballAgg wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:18 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:05 pm

BasketballAgg wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:01 pm
I think the time for a new era is here. Blake Anderson is not the guy we want running our program in the new NIL era.
What would BasketballAgg know about Aggie Football?
I did use to be FootballAgg
Shall we petition the mods to reinstate you as FootballAgg?

We need to. I am not going to take "basketballAg" seriously about football related issues. Of course if he becomes FootballAg again, his posts will be my bible on the football program.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 18th, 2024, 2:40 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:22 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:18 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:14 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:58 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:56 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:46 pm
People are coming with NIL excuses for BA. This is a BA problem. We have not been a winning team since 2021. At this point, we are trying to time BA and his buyout on when to hire the next coach.
When losing, recruits are more willing to leave.
Everybody ragged on Matt Wells for having very similar results as Coach Anderson has had. The only coach that inexplicably gets a pass for poor results has been Gary Andersen.
Wells did much better than BA. BA was the one-year wonder.
I think we are being a bit harsh with BA. Wells went through the same issues until he was forced to hire a real OC. The offense was good enough to compete for the MW and is going to be really good this year. If the new DC even gets the Aggies in the top 90 in D they are going to have a good year.
I have my doubts.
The last road win against above .500 team was the LA bowl.
The last home win against above .500 team was against Air Force in the early-mid 2022 season.
Yes, but most of that was due to a horrible DC hiring. I think he made a good hire this time. Are we gonna be BSU or SDSU with Blake? Of course not, but I think he can consistently put up seasons in the 6-9 win range which is about as much as can be asked at this point.

I think those are fair expectations. 6 wins a year is my minimum expectations for a coach at USU given the resources available. Blake has met those, am i happy with all the QB controversy or losing to Weber at home, certainly not that sucks, but as a whole Blake is meeting my expectations although I certainly hope for better success.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 18th, 2024, 2:46 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:40 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:22 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:18 pm

hickaggie wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:14 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:58 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:56 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:46 pm
People are coming with NIL excuses for BA. This is a BA problem. We have not been a winning team since 2021. At this point, we are trying to time BA and his buyout on when to hire the next coach.
When losing, recruits are more willing to leave.
Everybody ragged on Matt Wells for having very similar results as Coach Anderson has had. The only coach that inexplicably gets a pass for poor results has been Gary Andersen.
Wells did much better than BA. BA was the one-year wonder.
I think we are being a bit harsh with BA. Wells went through the same issues until he was forced to hire a real OC. The offense was good enough to compete for the MW and is going to be really good this year. If the new DC even gets the Aggies in the top 90 in D they are going to have a good year.
I have my doubts.
The last road win against above .500 team was the LA bowl.
The last home win against above .500 team was against Air Force in the early-mid 2022 season.
Yes, but most of that was due to a horrible DC hiring. I think he made a good hire this time. Are we gonna be BSU or SDSU with Blake? Of course not, but I think he can consistently put up seasons in the 6-9 win range which is about as much as can be asked at this point.
I think those are fair expectations. 6 wins a year is my minimum expectations for a coach at USU given the resources available. Blake has met those, am i happy with all the QB controversy or losing to Weber at home, certainly not that sucks, but as a whole Blake is meeting my expectations although I certainly hope for better success.

Pretty much. Anderson is a championship coach. A floor of making bowl games and a ceiling of conference championships is going to keep him at USU for a while.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » April 18th, 2024, 2:56 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:10 pm
Just makes appreciate even more players like Kotsanlee, Jacob Garcia, Otto Tia and lot of others that have been with the team for several years and are proud to don the Aggie uniform and stay true to USU.

Or Utah didn't offer them 150k and a new truck.........

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » April 18th, 2024, 3:00 pm

Jordan Love saved Wells’ career.

It really comes down to people have unrealistic expectations of a good but not top tier G5 program.

We aren’t P4. We don’t have the money. We don’t have the fans. Football isn’t a way of life in Utah like it is in the southern region of the country.

We have an incredible school. The quality of education USU provides is as good as any public university. I attended a much more well regarded school for grad school along with people that went to some of the best undergrad schools in the country.

Where we are weak is that we don’t have a great network and a struggle is we have a lot of people marrying young (even during school). This doesnt build enough alumni committed to the school with money laying around over several generations to build a winning tradition. We also don’t have the fans that never attended USU like much of the big 12 or SEC.

I love USU but we can’t keep trying to do less with more and expect to compete. But that mentality permeates throughout the University, not just sports.

We have to focus on building the USU brand (which is supposedly the upside of Cantwell) in the classroom, in the boardroom and on the field.

If not accept that we are G5 and will just be a little train that could.

UtStFan · Post by **UtStFan** » April 18th, 2024, 3:01 pm

Mentioning contracts seem funny to me given that Blake has run off so many players from this program.

I'm sure the players would go for the contract if the school would honor the contract to start.

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » April 18th, 2024, 3:03 pm

Don't forget MW went out and hired a brand new OL after the 2016 debacle.

BasketballAgg · Post by **BasketballAgg** » April 18th, 2024, 3:07 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:39 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:29 pm

BasketballAgg wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:18 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:05 pm

BasketballAgg wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:01 pm
I think the time for a new era is here. Blake Anderson is not the guy we want running our program in the new NIL era.
What would BasketballAgg know about Aggie Football?
I did use to be FootballAgg
Shall we petition the mods to reinstate you as FootballAgg?
We need to. I am not going to take "basketballAg" seriously about football related issues. Of course if he becomes FootballAg again, his posts will be my bible on the football program.

Basketballagg by day FootballAgg by night.

Post by **aggies22** » April 18th, 2024, 3:17 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:00 pm
Jordan Love saved Wells’ career.

It really comes down to people have unrealistic expectations of a good but not top tier G5 program.

We aren’t P4. We don’t have the money. We don’t have the fans. Football isn’t a way of life in Utah like it is in the southern region of the country.

We have an incredible school. The quality of education USU provides is as good as any public university. I attended a much more well regarded school for grad school along with people that went to some of the best undergrad schools in the country.

Where we are weak is that we don’t have a great network and a struggle is we have a lot of people marrying young (even during school). This doesnt build enough alumni committed to the school with money laying around over several generations to build a winning tradition. We also don’t have the fans that never attended USU like much of the big 12 or SEC.

I love USU but we can’t keep trying to do less with more and expect to compete. But that mentality permeates throughout the University, not just sports.

We have to focus on building the USU brand (which is supposedly the upside of Cantwell) in the classroom, in the boardroom and on the field.

If not accept that we are G5 and will just be a little train that could.

Isn't it a coach's job to go out and recruit good players? How did Jordan Love save Matt? Did anyone think he would end up being a first-round pick? Not likely. But a quarterback is recruited to learn the offense and eventually become a starter.

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » April 18th, 2024, 3:18 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:17 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:00 pm
Jordan Love saved Wells’ career.

It really comes down to people have unrealistic expectations of a good but not top tier G5 program.

We aren’t P4. We don’t have the money. We don’t have the fans. Football isn’t a way of life in Utah like it is in the southern region of the country.

We have an incredible school. The quality of education USU provides is as good as any public university. I attended a much more well regarded school for grad school along with people that went to some of the best undergrad schools in the country.

Where we are weak is that we don’t have a great network and a struggle is we have a lot of people marrying young (even during school). This doesnt build enough alumni committed to the school with money laying around over several generations to build a winning tradition. We also don’t have the fans that never attended USU like much of the big 12 or SEC.

I love USU but we can’t keep trying to do less with more and expect to compete. But that mentality permeates throughout the University, not just sports.

We have to focus on building the USU brand (which is supposedly the upside of Cantwell) in the classroom, in the boardroom and on the field.

If not accept that we are G5 and will just be a little train that could.
Isn't it a coach's job to go out and recruit good players? How did Jordan Love save Matt? Did anyone think he would end up being a first-round pick? Not likely. But a quarterback is recruited to learn the offense and eventually become a starter.

A good QB makes or breaks every coach.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » April 18th, 2024, 3:24 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:18 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:17 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:00 pm
Jordan Love saved Wells’ career.

It really comes down to people have unrealistic expectations of a good but not top tier G5 program.

We aren’t P4. We don’t have the money. We don’t have the fans. Football isn’t a way of life in Utah like it is in the southern region of the country.

We have an incredible school. The quality of education USU provides is as good as any public university. I attended a much more well regarded school for grad school along with people that went to some of the best undergrad schools in the country.

Where we are weak is that we don’t have a great network and a struggle is we have a lot of people marrying young (even during school). This doesnt build enough alumni committed to the school with money laying around over several generations to build a winning tradition. We also don’t have the fans that never attended USU like much of the big 12 or SEC.

I love USU but we can’t keep trying to do less with more and expect to compete. But that mentality permeates throughout the University, not just sports.

We have to focus on building the USU brand (which is supposedly the upside of Cantwell) in the classroom, in the boardroom and on the field.

If not accept that we are G5 and will just be a little train that could.
Isn't it a coach's job to go out and recruit good players? How did Jordan Love save Matt? Did anyone think he would end up being a first-round pick? Not likely. But a quarterback is recruited to learn the offense and eventually become a starter.
A good QB makes or breaks every coach.

Imagine the powerhouse Brent Guy would’ve built if it weren’t for Leon Jackson!

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » April 18th, 2024, 3:26 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:24 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:18 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:17 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:00 pm
Jordan Love saved Wells’ career.

It really comes down to people have unrealistic expectations of a good but not top tier G5 program.

We aren’t P4. We don’t have the money. We don’t have the fans. Football isn’t a way of life in Utah like it is in the southern region of the country.

We have an incredible school. The quality of education USU provides is as good as any public university. I attended a much more well regarded school for grad school along with people that went to some of the best undergrad schools in the country.

Where we are weak is that we don’t have a great network and a struggle is we have a lot of people marrying young (even during school). This doesnt build enough alumni committed to the school with money laying around over several generations to build a winning tradition. We also don’t have the fans that never attended USU like much of the big 12 or SEC.

I love USU but we can’t keep trying to do less with more and expect to compete. But that mentality permeates throughout the University, not just sports.

We have to focus on building the USU brand (which is supposedly the upside of Cantwell) in the classroom, in the boardroom and on the field.

If not accept that we are G5 and will just be a little train that could.
Isn't it a coach's job to go out and recruit good players? How did Jordan Love save Matt? Did anyone think he would end up being a first-round pick? Not likely. But a quarterback is recruited to learn the offense and eventually become a starter.
A good QB makes or breaks every coach.
Imagine the powerhouse Brent Guy would’ve built if it weren’t for Leon Jackson!

Why besmirch one of our best punters

Post by **aggies22** » April 18th, 2024, 3:27 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:24 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:18 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:17 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:00 pm
Jordan Love saved Wells’ career.

It really comes down to people have unrealistic expectations of a good but not top tier G5 program.

We aren’t P4. We don’t have the money. We don’t have the fans. Football isn’t a way of life in Utah like it is in the southern region of the country.

We have an incredible school. The quality of education USU provides is as good as any public university. I attended a much more well regarded school for grad school along with people that went to some of the best undergrad schools in the country.

Where we are weak is that we don’t have a great network and a struggle is we have a lot of people marrying young (even during school). This doesnt build enough alumni committed to the school with money laying around over several generations to build a winning tradition. We also don’t have the fans that never attended USU like much of the big 12 or SEC.

I love USU but we can’t keep trying to do less with more and expect to compete. But that mentality permeates throughout the University, not just sports.

We have to focus on building the USU brand (which is supposedly the upside of Cantwell) in the classroom, in the boardroom and on the field.

If not accept that we are G5 and will just be a little train that could.
Isn't it a coach's job to go out and recruit good players? How did Jordan Love save Matt? Did anyone think he would end up being a first-round pick? Not likely. But a quarterback is recruited to learn the offense and eventually become a starter.
A good QB makes or breaks every coach.
Imagine the powerhouse Brent Guy would’ve built if it weren’t for Leon Jackson!

Leon Jackson is the perfect example of poor coaching failing a player.

trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » April 18th, 2024, 3:28 pm

We've got to be bottoming out soon. We're getting poached mid-spring ball.

There's still a shake up coming where the P4 pseudo break away in some form.

Contractually controlled employees can't come soon enough. If we can start selling players like Fifa, things might work out

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 18th, 2024, 3:43 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:27 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:24 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:18 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:17 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:00 pm
Jordan Love saved Wells’ career.

It really comes down to people have unrealistic expectations of a good but not top tier G5 program.

We aren’t P4. We don’t have the money. We don’t have the fans. Football isn’t a way of life in Utah like it is in the southern region of the country.

We have an incredible school. The quality of education USU provides is as good as any public university. I attended a much more well regarded school for grad school along with people that went to some of the best undergrad schools in the country.

Where we are weak is that we don’t have a great network and a struggle is we have a lot of people marrying young (even during school). This doesnt build enough alumni committed to the school with money laying around over several generations to build a winning tradition. We also don’t have the fans that never attended USU like much of the big 12 or SEC.

I love USU but we can’t keep trying to do less with more and expect to compete. But that mentality permeates throughout the University, not just sports.

We have to focus on building the USU brand (which is supposedly the upside of Cantwell) in the classroom, in the boardroom and on the field.

If not accept that we are G5 and will just be a little train that could.
Isn't it a coach's job to go out and recruit good players? How did Jordan Love save Matt? Did anyone think he would end up being a first-round pick? Not likely. But a quarterback is recruited to learn the offense and eventually become a starter.
A good QB makes or breaks every coach.
Imagine the powerhouse Brent Guy would’ve built if it weren’t for Leon Jackson!
Leon Jackson is the perfect example of poor coaching failing a player.

Also another USU QB that had to deal with a bad Offensive line.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » April 18th, 2024, 3:43 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:12 pm
Blake isn’t the guy we want running our program regardless of nil lol.

This one doesn’t hurt too bad because of Faison and Briggs but if we lose one of them things could get FUGLY AF.

FIFY

Aggiefan160 · Post by **Aggiefan160** » April 18th, 2024, 3:47 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:03 pm
Blake is not in charge of NIL. That is the blue A collective. If we want players to stay then people need to pony up more funds. Even then we will never pay our good players what a lot of other collectives will pay them.

The claim that you and I (and the rest of the board members/fans) can donate enough money to compete with P4 schools' NIL funds is naïve and unrealistic. Maybe there are businesses that actually get a benefit from partnering with "student athletes" in NIL. I can support that concept, but the concept of expecting the average working class to finance a semi-pro team associated with your chosen college is not realistic. The average US salary is right around $64k/year. The idea that the average fans can finance a full roster's payroll, to then buy season tickets and donate to athletic program to watch those players play is unrealistic. I loved college football, but its quickly losing its luster to me.

newhouse9 · Post by **newhouse9** » April 18th, 2024, 3:53 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:52 pm
Blake Anderson isn't the problem. The collective isn't the problem. Booth got poached. Fitzgerald got poached. We cannot keep up with the offers that are flowing in from P4 schools. This is an unsustainable model for MOST G5 schools, their donors, and their fan bases.

Spot on. College athletics is a free for all, professional endeavor now. No rules, pay to play, pillage whomever from whereever. I feel for Blake and all "poor" programs. Heck, even the rich are wearing out...Nick Saban, for example. It just sucks.

Dwigt · Post by **Dwigt** » April 18th, 2024, 3:57 pm

At this point I would be fine if we dropped football altogether. Why should we give a damn if no one else does?

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » April 18th, 2024, 3:59 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:26 pm

Hoot wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:24 pm

TrueAG wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:18 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:17 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:00 pm
Jordan Love saved Wells’ career.

It really comes down to people have unrealistic expectations of a good but not top tier G5 program.

We aren’t P4. We don’t have the money. We don’t have the fans. Football isn’t a way of life in Utah like it is in the southern region of the country.

We have an incredible school. The quality of education USU provides is as good as any public university. I attended a much more well regarded school for grad school along with people that went to some of the best undergrad schools in the country.

Where we are weak is that we don’t have a great network and a struggle is we have a lot of people marrying young (even during school). This doesnt build enough alumni committed to the school with money laying around over several generations to build a winning tradition. We also don’t have the fans that never attended USU like much of the big 12 or SEC.

I love USU but we can’t keep trying to do less with more and expect to compete. But that mentality permeates throughout the University, not just sports.

We have to focus on building the USU brand (which is supposedly the upside of Cantwell) in the classroom, in the boardroom and on the field.

If not accept that we are G5 and will just be a little train that could.
Isn't it a coach's job to go out and recruit good players? How did Jordan Love save Matt? Did anyone think he would end up being a first-round pick? Not likely. But a quarterback is recruited to learn the offense and eventually become a starter.
A good QB makes or breaks every coach.
Imagine the powerhouse Brent Guy would’ve built if it weren’t for Leon Jackson!
Why besmirch one of our best punters

He was also a great running back.

Donman · Post by **Donman** » April 18th, 2024, 4:01 pm

Leon was recruited to play in an entirely different system than he actually played in

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Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » April 18th, 2024, 4:03 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:17 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:00 pm
Jordan Love saved Wells’ career.

It really comes down to people have unrealistic expectations of a good but not top tier G5 program.

We aren’t P4. We don’t have the money. We don’t have the fans. Football isn’t a way of life in Utah like it is in the southern region of the country.

We have an incredible school. The quality of education USU provides is as good as any public university. I attended a much more well regarded school for grad school along with people that went to some of the best undergrad schools in the country.

Where we are weak is that we don’t have a great network and a struggle is we have a lot of people marrying young (even during school). This doesnt build enough alumni committed to the school with money laying around over several generations to build a winning tradition. We also don’t have the fans that never attended USU like much of the big 12 or SEC.

I love USU but we can’t keep trying to do less with more and expect to compete. But that mentality permeates throughout the University, not just sports.

We have to focus on building the USU brand (which is supposedly the upside of Cantwell) in the classroom, in the boardroom and on the field.

If not accept that we are G5 and will just be a little train that could.
Isn't it a coach's job to go out and recruit good players? How did Jordan Love save Matt? Did anyone think he would end up being a first-round pick? Not likely. But a quarterback is recruited to learn the offense and eventually become a starter.

I agree. Wells absolutely gets credit for bringing in Love. But I do think Wells seat would have been very hot if Myers finishes out that season. Wells recruited Love and switched to Love in time to salvage a bowl game. I could have maybe worded it better as “Wells decision to recruit and the play Love in time” saved his career.

Post by **Aglicious** » April 18th, 2024, 5:27 pm

bigblue32 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:14 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 2:10 pm
Just makes appreciate even more players like Kotsanlee, Jacob Garcia, Otto Tia and lot of others that have been with the team for several years and are proud to don the Aggie uniform and stay true to USU.
I mean I agree but I have a hard time thinking any player on our team is still in Aggie blue when offered 150k and a truck. :/ sucks but just being realistic. 90 miles south isn’t terribly far to stay in touch with friends and gf’s etc and they now have real money.

150k and a truck is real money? I honestly can't believe they can be had for so little.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » April 18th, 2024, 6:01 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:55 pm
I just don't see a reason to keep putting resources into football in this new paradigm. It sucks.

Exactly. At what point do the smaller schools just drop school-sponsored sports all together? What is the point of trying to compete on a national level when you have no chance to keep up with the big schools financially and you lose your best talent ever year? It is a waste of money. They should just get together and establish regional, non-scholarship club teams to offer extra-curricular athletics opportunities to students and be done with it. It is insanity to invest the kind of money needed to field a varsity sports teams in today's environment.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » April 18th, 2024, 6:30 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:53 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:52 pm
Blake Anderson isn't the problem. The collective isn't the problem. Booth got poached. Fitzgerald got poached. We cannot keep up with the offers that are flowing in from P4 schools. This is an unsustainable model for MOST G5 schools, their donors, and their fan bases.
Spot on. College athletics is a free for all, professional endeavor now. No rules, pay to play, pillage whomever from whereever. I feel for Blake and all "poor" programs. Heck, even the rich are wearing out...Nick Saban, for example. It just sucks.

Nick Saban basically said he quit because of NIL and unlimited transfers.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » April 18th, 2024, 6:35 pm

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 6:30 pm

newhouse9 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 3:53 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 18th, 2024, 1:52 pm
Blake Anderson isn't the problem. The collective isn't the problem. Booth got poached. Fitzgerald got poached. We cannot keep up with the offers that are flowing in from P4 schools. This is an unsustainable model for MOST G5 schools, their donors, and their fan bases.
Spot on. College athletics is a free for all, professional endeavor now. No rules, pay to play, pillage whomever from whereever. I feel for Blake and all "poor" programs. Heck, even the rich are wearing out...Nick Saban, for example. It just sucks.
Nick Saban basically said he quit because of NIL and unlimited transfers.

The Green Bay Packers new DC said he left his job as a college head coach due to NIL too.

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