AngusAg wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 3:59 pm

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LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑

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I really like what he did after the game last night. Loved the speech and how he gave the seniors a chance to address the crowd.

Final home crowd hoorah for Coach Odom.

Is he moving on??

If he does then I say we go after Tim Miles.

I would also look at Mark Madsen.

I say Reggie Theus.

Perhaps Greg Heiar is still available?

Pretty sure 22 meant for the year…

No, he meant for good.

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Complicate matters, the AD who hired Odom is gone and we wound have a president or AD during the hiring process. Not ideal.

Well, that scenario sucks. What coach wants to commit not knowing who their boss is going to be?

What the heck Odom, we hardly knew ye. What was the last coach's name, I forgot? To much rapid fire for my liking.

Does getting to the NCAA tournament now = the coach leaving?

Dkdavis wrote: ↑

March 6th, 2023, 2:59 pm

AngusAg wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 3:59 pm

bpd wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 2:44 pm

Blue Sage wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 2:27 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 10:37 am

NowhereLandAggie wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 10:24 am

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 9:56 am

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 9:48 am

FloridaAggie13 wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 9:33 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 8:47 am

GordoAggie wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 8:44 am

I really like what he did after the game last night. Loved the speech and how he gave the seniors a chance to address the crowd.

Final home crowd hoorah for Coach Odom.

Is he moving on??

If he does then I say we go after Tim Miles.

I would also look at Mark Madsen.

I say Reggie Theus.

Perhaps Greg Heiar is still available?

Pretty sure 22 meant for the year…

No, he meant for good.

To
Complicate matters, the AD who hired Odom is gone and we wound have a president or AD during the hiring process. Not ideal.

Well, that scenario sucks. What coach wants to commit not knowing who their boss is going to be?

What the heck Odom, we hardly knew ye. What was the last coach's name, I forgot? To much rapid fire for my liking.

Does getting to the NCAA tournament now = the coach leaving?

I’ll take a stab at this just based on memory … it seems like in our conference, in order to get the offer the coach is looking for, they have to show the ability to get their team to the ncaa tournament on a repeat basis. Examples that come to mind are Musselman and Craig Smith (maybe as far back Alford at UNM). I don’t know exactly whether Dutcher has received offers or if he just chooses to stay there. But that seems to be the case, based on my highly unscientific analysis.

If someone cares to actually research the history of coaches leaving the conference for higher paying jobs … please fill us in.

Dkdavis wrote: ↑

March 6th, 2023, 2:59 pm

AngusAg wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 3:59 pm

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No, he meant for good.

To
Complicate matters, the AD who hired Odom is gone and we wound have a president or AD during the hiring process. Not ideal.

Well, that scenario sucks. What coach wants to commit not knowing who their boss is going to be?

What the heck Odom, we hardly knew ye. What was the last coach's name, I forgot? To much rapid fire for my liking.

Does getting to the NCAA tournament now = the coach leaving?

Short answer - in second year of contract filling behind a tournament level program... no, especially if the tournament ends up being a one and done.

I get that to expect someone to put USU ahead of personal ambitions is not realistic. But I also think that it's totally within reason to expect a minimum deposit before moving on. There was a sizable investment (in more ways than just monetary) made to get him and his recruits integrated into the program. I think your employer, the fans and definitely the team deserve a certain level of commitment. Two years ain't it. That's just the way I'm wired.

WTS, I like Odom and think he has done a great job and would love to see him stay.

Why did this topic get started. Players see this, parents of Players see this. There is no announcement, just hypothesis. This seems very distracting and negative before the MW tournament. Disturbing to say the least, while we giant minds explain how much we don’t know.

AngusAg wrote: ↑

March 6th, 2023, 10:49 am

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If he leaves, what players will follow him out the door?

I can’t see Steven leaving to follow Odom east. I suppose I could see Max leaving.

Everyone else worth taking is exhausting their eligibility and/or hanging it up.

Good points sir, but what keeps it from extending to committed or future recruits. (say Falslev, Johnson, Sakho, Grant, Templin, etc. or even Davis kid at Hillcrest or Barnes at Olympus)?

Utah LDS kids in the program don’t strike me as flight risks. Falslev and Johnson seem like they want to live and play in Utah and are committed to the school rather than a coach. Dallin Grant is likely the same, and wasn’t even an Odom recruit. IMO, we’d likely be lucky if he took Sakho off our hands.

Phelps and Templin maybe? Those wouldn’t be fun ones to lose. The Davis and Barnes kids are too far in the future for me to even know if they are any good, so simply wouldn’t care on them.

I dunno, I guess I could see Shulga following him (but why he’d give up what would clearly be a feature role here next year is difficult to see). Maybe Phelps and Templin ask to be released from their LOIs, but USU was the best offer each of them got.

I mean, I just am not seeing an exodus following Odom to the east or southeast.

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

March 6th, 2023, 8:44 pm

AngusAg wrote: ↑

March 6th, 2023, 10:49 am

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

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gomretat wrote: ↑

March 6th, 2023, 9:06 am

If he leaves, what players will follow him out the door?

I can’t see Steven leaving to follow Odom east. I suppose I could see Max leaving.

Everyone else worth taking is exhausting their eligibility and/or hanging it up.

Good points sir, but what keeps it from extending to committed or future recruits. (say Falslev, Johnson, Sakho, Grant, Templin, etc. or even Davis kid at Hillcrest or Barnes at Olympus)?

Utah LDS kids in the program don’t strike me as flight risks. Falslev and Johnson seem like they want to live and play in Utah and are committed to the school rather than a coach. Dallin Grant is likely the same, and wasn’t even an Odom recruit. IMO, we’d likely be lucky if he took Sakho off our hands.

Phelps and Templin maybe? Those wouldn’t be fun ones to lose. The Davis and Barnes kids are too far in the future for me to even know if they are any good, so simply wouldn’t care on them.

I dunno, I guess I could see Shulga following him (but why he’d give up what would clearly be a feature role here next year is difficult to see). Maybe Phelps and Templin ask to be released from their LOIs, but USU was the best offer each of them got.

Templin also had unlv.

But I see templin wanting to be in Utah. Just a lot of lds recruits are that way. Not all obviously.

If Odom is considering leaving, my suspicion is he may just want to head back to the east/south. Let’s all be honest that his fit here is a little weird given his background and connections.

I’ll enjoy him as long as he’s here. I’m with others though. If he leaves, Miles is my first call, and I’d prioritize someone with Western connections.

I feel bad for the players when coaches leave, but I feel no affinity for any particular coach. They are hired mercs, and we are a springboard stopping point between low major and high major athletics. Perhaps one of the better springboards, but a springboard nonetheless.

Why are we assuming he wants to leave? People move from the Midwest and East Coast to the mountain west region every day…and love it. Not everyone wants to go back to where they are from. I grew up in Minnesota, and I’m not actively looking for job offers from that hell hole lol.

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

March 6th, 2023, 8:54 pm

If Odom is considering leaving, my suspicion is he may just want to head back to the east/south. Let’s all be honest that his fit here is a little weird given his background and connections.

I’ll enjoy him as long as he’s here. I’m with others though. If he leaves, Miles is my first call.

Yeah I’ve loved Odom. I will always Love Odom. I hope he stays here for forever. I won’t be shocked if he does take a P5 job back east. His fit was a little weird, borderline overqualified to an extent. Had P5 offers in the past. No EQP real connections out here.

He’s still been the best coach in our program, outside of Stew of course.

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑

March 6th, 2023, 8:59 pm

Why are we assuming he wants to leave? People move from the Midwest and East Coast to the mountain west region every day…and love it. Not everyone wants to go back to where they are from. I grew up in Minnesota, and I’m not actively looking for job offers from that hell hole lol.

Because two insiders in this very thread have suggested as much?

Aggiesbleedblue wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 9:23 am

I hadn’t heard how much his wife loves the valley so I was optimistic he’d stay

Lol this is the best comment.

How ‘bout we leave the abused puppy/jilted lover thread alone until after the NCAA tournament? This is nothing but unproductive and anxiety inducing for us and anyone associated with the program.

Let’s enjoy the current ride and team of Aggies we get to see play!

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

March 6th, 2023, 9:04 pm

Aggiesbleedblue wrote: ↑

March 5th, 2023, 9:23 am

I hadn’t heard how much his wife loves the valley so I was optimistic he’d stay

Lol this is the best comment.

Conner Odom is a junior says I as I drop the mic and walk away victorious.

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

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jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑

March 6th, 2023, 8:59 pm

Why are we assuming he wants to leave? People move from the Midwest and East Coast to the mountain west region every day…and love it. Not everyone wants to go back to where they are from. I grew up in Minnesota, and I’m not actively looking for job offers from that hell hole lol.

Because two insiders in this very thread have suggested as much?

Yea but like they're being majorly vague. And I highly highly highly highly doubt that Odom while preparing for a conference championship is talking to schools and trying to move out. That's a off-season thing.

Here is Big Boomer's take on where Odom fits this year.

gomretat wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 6:28 am

Here is Big Boomer's take on where Odom fits this year.

No Tim Miles? Wow

I'm not worried about Odom, I mean even if the Utes job opens up I doubt they would take another USU guy this soon.

I'm a big fan of Odom. Not only does he run a good program, but he does it the right way. Would love to have him in Logan for many years to come.

hipsterdoofus21 wrote:

gomretat wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 6:28 am

Here is Big Boomer's take on where Odom fits this year.

No Tim Miles? Wow

As if we needed any reminder that bgb has no idea what he’s talking about, he’s clueless (though I’m glad he liked Logan)


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In all reality if Odom does decided to leave, what are the odds that we can get Tim Miles here ??? (Assuming that’s our number 1 target like I hope it is)

I would doubt we could get Miles from SJSU to Logan. It is a step up historically but one more year of SJSU being top half of the conference and he will get bigger names calling if he hasn't already. Only way he would come to USU is if he thinks sustained winning at SJSU is not manageable and he things Logan would be a good place to end his career.

Coloraggie wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 10:24 am

I would doubt we could get Miles from SJSU to Logan. It is a step up historically but one more year of SJSU being top half of the conference and he will get bigger names calling if he hasn't already. Only way he would come to USU is if he thinks sustained winning at SJSU is not manageable and he things Logan would be a good place to end his career.

I really think at this point in his career I could see Tim being satisfied staying in Logan. He's chased the money and prestige of the P5 and it exploded in his face. He really likes the MW conference as well and knows how to win in this conference.

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

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Coloraggie wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 10:24 am

I would doubt we could get Miles from SJSU to Logan. It is a step up historically but one more year of SJSU being top half of the conference and he will get bigger names calling if he hasn't already. Only way he would come to USU is if he thinks sustained winning at SJSU is not manageable and he things Logan would be a good place to end his career.

I really think at this point in his career I could see Tim being satisfied staying in Logan. He's chased the money and prestige of the P5 and it exploded in his face. He really likes the MW conference as well and knows how to win in this conference.

But would he leave SJSU to come here since he has the MW job and having success. If we got him rather than Odom two years ago I agree with you that he might stay here, but will he leave SJSU for Logan?

Coloraggie wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 11:31 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 11:25 am

Coloraggie wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 10:24 am

I would doubt we could get Miles from SJSU to Logan. It is a step up historically but one more year of SJSU being top half of the conference and he will get bigger names calling if he hasn't already. Only way he would come to USU is if he thinks sustained winning at SJSU is not manageable and he things Logan would be a good place to end his career.

I really think at this point in his career I could see Tim being satisfied staying in Logan. He's chased the money and prestige of the P5 and it exploded in his face. He really likes the MW conference as well and knows how to win in this conference.

But would he leave SJSU to come here since he has the MW job and having success. If we got him rather than Odom two years ago I agree with you that he might stay here, but will he leave SJSU for Logan?

He wanted the job when we hired Odom so hopefully there aren't any sour grapes, but what does SJSU offer that Utah State can't besides nice weather? Coaches don't want their players playing in front of 100 fans. SJSU will never have fan support, and their budget will always be limited as well.

An award for Coach O.

https://themw.com/sports/mbball

Bank Shot wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 12:07 pm

An award for Coach O.

https://themw.com/sports/mbball

Who is Skip?

Bank Shot wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 12:07 pm

An award for Coach O.

https://themw.com/sports/mbball

That is a great honor for him to be a finalist for that award. I don't know coach Odom personally but just from my outside perspective he seems like a great person.

MrBiggle wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 12:21 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 12:07 pm

An award for Coach O.

https://themw.com/sports/mbball

Who is Skip?

Copied and pasted from the article:
The Skip Prosser Man of the Year award is named in honor of the late Skip Prosser, former coach at Wake Forest, Xavier and Loyola (Md.). Prosser averaged 21 wins per season in his six years at Wake Forest. He passed away of an apparent heart attack on July 26, 2007, in his office at Wake Forest.

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 11:35 am

Coloraggie wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 11:31 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 11:25 am

Coloraggie wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 10:24 am

I would doubt we could get Miles from SJSU to Logan. It is a step up historically but one more year of SJSU being top half of the conference and he will get bigger names calling if he hasn't already. Only way he would come to USU is if he thinks sustained winning at SJSU is not manageable and he things Logan would be a good place to end his career.

I really think at this point in his career I could see Tim being satisfied staying in Logan. He's chased the money and prestige of the P5 and it exploded in his face. He really likes the MW conference as well and knows how to win in this conference.

But would he leave SJSU to come here since he has the MW job and having success. If we got him rather than Odom two years ago I agree with you that he might stay here, but will he leave SJSU for Logan?

He wanted the job when we hired Odom so hopefully there aren't any sour grapes, but what does SJSU offer that Utah State can't besides nice weather? Coaches don't want their players playing in front of 100 fans. SJSU will never have fan support, and their budget will always be limited as well.

What about Paskernack (spelling) the coach at UCSB and former Arizona assistant. He’s had good records at UCSB.

I of course hope we aren’t searching for a new coach and Odom is here a while longer

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 1:12 pm

He wanted the job when we hired Odom so hopefully there aren't any sour grapes, but what does SJSU offer that Utah State can't besides nice weather?

Low expectations. He would be revered at San Jose State for regularly leading them to even the CBI and CIT, let alone the NIT and an occasional NCAA appearance even if it's a one and done. Fans here would be disappointed with regular CBI and CIT appearances cause we want NCAA appearances and occasional wins in the dance.

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 1:12 pm

What about Paskernack (spelling) the coach at UCSB and former Arizona assistant. He’s had good records at UCSB.

I of course hope we aren’t searching for a new coach and Odom is here a while longer

It's Pasternak and was rumored the scandals that happened while he was at Arizona and partially to blame for was a deterrent to us hiring him last time around.

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 1:12 pm

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 11:35 am

Coloraggie wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 11:31 am

hipsterdoofus21 wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 11:25 am

Coloraggie wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 10:24 am

I would doubt we could get Miles from SJSU to Logan. It is a step up historically but one more year of SJSU being top half of the conference and he will get bigger names calling if he hasn't already. Only way he would come to USU is if he thinks sustained winning at SJSU is not manageable and he things Logan would be a good place to end his career.

I really think at this point in his career I could see Tim being satisfied staying in Logan. He's chased the money and prestige of the P5 and it exploded in his face. He really likes the MW conference as well and knows how to win in this conference.

But would he leave SJSU to come here since he has the MW job and having success. If we got him rather than Odom two years ago I agree with you that he might stay here, but will he leave SJSU for Logan?

He wanted the job when we hired Odom so hopefully there aren't any sour grapes, but what does SJSU offer that Utah State can't besides nice weather? Coaches don't want their players playing in front of 100 fans. SJSU will never have fan support, and their budget will always be limited as well.

What about Paskernack (spelling) the coach at UCSB and former Arizona assistant. He’s had good records at UCSB.

I of course hope we aren’t searching for a new coach and Odom is here a while longer

Would love to have him if our job opens up again

gomretat wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 6:28 am

Here is Big Boomer's take on where Odom fits this year.

Dang, not even our former guy with the "better job" made that list LOL

Rumor is a large, historic basketball school in the east is looking at him. Mutual interest. We'll see.

GaryTakeTheWheel wrote: ↑

March 7th, 2023, 9:53 pm

Rumor is a large, historic basketball school in the east is looking at him. Mutual interest. We'll see.

Doesn’t sound great with him being from east coast and USU still without key leadership