If Ashworth leaves, is he a “True Blooded Aggie”?

Post by **DoWorkSon** » April 6th, 2023, 8:57 pm

Thoughts?

stang · Post by **stang** » April 6th, 2023, 8:59 pm

I hate it here.

stwinward · Post by **stwinward** » April 6th, 2023, 9:00 pm

I feel like this isn't helpful at this stage of where things are at. Let's try to keep him first.

bigblue32 · Post by **bigblue32** » April 6th, 2023, 9:01 pm

Let’s delete this lol

QuackAttackAggie · Post by **QuackAttackAggie** » April 6th, 2023, 9:03 pm

Yall weird

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Elkaggie · Post by **Elkaggie** » April 6th, 2023, 9:03 pm

Delete

Post by **DoWorkSon** » April 6th, 2023, 9:03 pm

The likelihood of him staying are rather slim. I would be surprised if he came back.

Post by **DoWorkSon** » April 6th, 2023, 9:04 pm

bigblue32 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:01 pm
Let’s delete this lol

What about freedom of speech?

utaggies · Post by **utaggies** » April 6th, 2023, 9:05 pm

Entering the portal does not mean Ashworth is gone. It is very poor timing for such a poll. Regardless, I don’t like litmus tests for Aggie purity.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » April 6th, 2023, 9:06 pm

Welp, Officially off the rails! Yelling fire in crowded theater is not covered by freedom of speech.

stang · Post by **stang** » April 6th, 2023, 9:07 pm

DoWorkSon wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:04 pm

bigblue32 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:01 pm
Let’s delete this lol
What about freedom of speech?

The fact that you have the right to post this doesn't make it any less stupid.

Turtle · Post by **Turtle** » April 6th, 2023, 9:08 pm

Anytime a coach leaves I think it is fair for a player to enter the transfer portal and see what is out there. Nothing that happens can downplay his elite play this year.

Post by **DoWorkSon** » April 6th, 2023, 9:11 pm

stang wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:07 pm

DoWorkSon wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:04 pm

bigblue32 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:01 pm
Let’s delete this lol
What about freedom of speech?
The fact that you have the right to post this doesn't make it any less stupid.

He’s in the portal, move on. He never cared for any of you anyways. Him flapping his arms around all game was just to build up his ego. Good riddance!

Aggieforlife · Post by **Aggieforlife** » April 6th, 2023, 10:16 pm

DoWorkSon wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:11 pm

stang wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:07 pm

DoWorkSon wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:04 pm

bigblue32 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:01 pm
Let’s delete this lol
What about freedom of speech?
The fact that you have the right to post this doesn't make it any less stupid.
He’s in the portal, move on. He never cared for any of you anyways. Him flapping his arms around all game was just to build up his ego. Good riddance!

Ego is one of the last words I would use to describe Ashworth

Post by **GeoAg** » April 6th, 2023, 10:19 pm

Stupidest thread ever. Freedom of speech allows you to say what you want, but doesn't inoculate against the consequences of being seen as a jerk should your speech betray such a truth

TheAKAggie · Post by **TheAKAggie** » April 6th, 2023, 10:51 pm

No.

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hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » April 6th, 2023, 11:04 pm

Hold this discussion until the 1% chance of returning hits 0%

BioAggie · Post by **BioAggie** » April 6th, 2023, 11:32 pm

If he goes to the “why?” Then NO, he is not a true Aggie. No one can transfer there and be considered a true Aggie, it goes contrary to everything True Aggies stand for.

If he goes to any other school then I will understand, I will not be happy about it, but I can understand.

Post by **DoWorkSon** » April 6th, 2023, 11:36 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 10:19 pm
Stupidest thread ever. Freedom of speech allows you to say what you want, but doesn't inoculate against the consequences of being seen as a jerk should your speech betray such a truth

Sensitive much?

Post by **DoWorkSon** » April 6th, 2023, 11:45 pm

Aggieforlife wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 10:16 pm

DoWorkSon wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:11 pm

stang wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:07 pm

DoWorkSon wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:04 pm

bigblue32 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:01 pm
Let’s delete this lol
What about freedom of speech?
The fact that you have the right to post this doesn't make it any less stupid.
He’s in the portal, move on. He never cared for any of you anyways. Him flapping his arms around all game was just to build up his ego. Good riddance!
Ego is one of the last words I would use to describe Ashworth

Word on the street, Jaycee Carrol was interested in mentoring and working with Ashworth but found him too arrogant, so he’s been working with Mason Falslev instead.

Post by **GeoAg** » April 6th, 2023, 11:54 pm

DoWorkSon wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 11:36 pm

GeoAg wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 10:19 pm
Stupidest thread ever. Freedom of speech allows you to say what you want, but doesn't inoculate against the consequences of being seen as a jerk should your speech betray such a truth
Sensitive much?

Just call 'em as I see 'em son

rickjames23 · Post by **rickjames23** » April 7th, 2023, 9:36 am

If Ashworth decides to go to BYU then he has all that's coming for him. That's a rival. And in sports you know not to go to a rival. I know they were not necessarily rival but when Ray Allen left Boston for the Heat are the Boston fans supposed to congratulate ray Allen? Any other school he will ALWAYS be an aggie legend.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » April 7th, 2023, 9:38 am

**true-hearted

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 7th, 2023, 9:40 am

rickjames23 wrote: ↑
April 7th, 2023, 9:36 am
If Ashworth decides to go to BYU then he has all that's coming for him. That's a rival. And in sports you know not to go to a rival. I know they were not necessarily rival but when Ray Allen left Boston for the Heat are the Boston fans supposed to congratulate ray Allen? Any other school he will ALWAYS be an aggie legend.

Yep. If he goes to Florida, I'll wish him the best and even cheer for him. If he goes to Utah, BYU or CSU, then no, I hope he misses every shot he ever takes.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 7th, 2023, 9:55 am

Ashworth is a "true-blooded Aggie" -- whatever that means. Ours is a program in flux. He has a limited eligibility clock. He stuck around through two coaching changes and repped our program well the entire time he was here.

If he goes to BYU and gets his bag, I am happy for him. If he goes to Gonzaga, VCU, or some P5 school, I am happy for him. If he hadn't turned out, we'd all be begging for him to be counseled out. This is just the new reality in the portal era. You gotta take the good with the bad. The other new reality is that if we name the right coach, he can basically retool an entire roster in an offseason or two.

It all just is what it is in this era. I think this transition is hard for a lot of you, and I get that. I think you'll all get used to it eventually.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » April 7th, 2023, 10:00 am

rickjames23 wrote: ↑
April 7th, 2023, 9:36 am
If Ashworth decides to go to BYU then he has all that's coming for him. That's a rival. And in sports you know not to go to a rival. I know they were not necessarily rival but when Ray Allen left Boston for the Heat are the Boston fans supposed to congratulate ray Allen? Any other school he will ALWAYS be an aggie legend.

Taking nothing away from Steven's great year, but one great year on a good team that didn't win a regular season title, a tournament title or a NCAA tourney game and parlaying that into skipping town seems like a loose definition of LEGEND. I wish him the best but not an Aggie legend.

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » April 7th, 2023, 11:10 am

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 7th, 2023, 9:55 am
Ashworth is a "true-blooded Aggie" -- whatever that means.

"True-blooded," perhaps. "*True-hearted?" Doubtful.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » April 7th, 2023, 12:22 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
April 7th, 2023, 10:00 am

rickjames23 wrote: ↑
April 7th, 2023, 9:36 am
If Ashworth decides to go to BYU then he has all that's coming for him. That's a rival. And in sports you know not to go to a rival. I know they were not necessarily rival but when Ray Allen left Boston for the Heat are the Boston fans supposed to congratulate ray Allen? Any other school he will ALWAYS be an aggie legend.
Taking nothing away from Steven's great year, but one great year on a good team that didn't win a regular season title, a tournament title or a NCAA tourney game and parlaying that into skipping town seems like a loose definition of LEGEND. I wish him the best but not an Aggie legend.

Yeah legend is a bit strong at this point. He comes back and has another great year than we can talk about legendary status. If he leaves now he isn't an Aggie legend.

stwinward · Post by **stwinward** » April 7th, 2023, 12:25 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
April 7th, 2023, 12:22 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
April 7th, 2023, 10:00 am

rickjames23 wrote: ↑
April 7th, 2023, 9:36 am
If Ashworth decides to go to BYU then he has all that's coming for him. That's a rival. And in sports you know not to go to a rival. I know they were not necessarily rival but when Ray Allen left Boston for the Heat are the Boston fans supposed to congratulate ray Allen? Any other school he will ALWAYS be an aggie legend.
Taking nothing away from Steven's great year, but one great year on a good team that didn't win a regular season title, a tournament title or a NCAA tourney game and parlaying that into skipping town seems like a loose definition of LEGEND. I wish him the best but not an Aggie legend.
Yeah legend is a bit strong at this point. He comes back and has another great year than we can talk about legendary status. If he leaves now he isn't an Aggie legend.

Legends are loyal. That's all.

BasketballAgg · Post by **BasketballAgg** » April 7th, 2023, 12:28 pm

You'd think with guidance like Sam Merrill and Justin Bean, Steven Ashworth would learn a thing or two about loyalty a building an amazing legacy because of it.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » April 7th, 2023, 12:30 pm

Could have been a legend. Still could. If he does transfer he is nothing more than Lew Evens and best and David Collett at worst.

BasketballAgg · Post by **BasketballAgg** » April 7th, 2023, 12:38 pm

Also can we just take a second to appreciate Justin Bean ? I don't know if there is any former Aggie that is as active with USU athletics news than him. I don't think Justin Bean has the analytics to be one of the greatest Aggies of all time, but does he have the heart !

SectionBAggie · Post by **SectionBAggie** » April 7th, 2023, 12:41 pm

Though the BYU paranoia runs deep, this is something that perhaps will temper the assurance that SA is Provo-bound.

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status ... 0065463298

Post by **Aglicious** » April 7th, 2023, 12:47 pm

Not going to vote in the poll, but I will say reading this article makes me a little sick now.

Not even coaching changes and a scholarship offer from Duke could prompt this Utah State Aggie to stray

Zaggie07 · Post by **Zaggie07** » April 7th, 2023, 1:30 pm

I think Steven is the only one that can fairly answer this question, and only in time will he know. The Aggie community plays a role in that; nobody is a true-blooded/hearted Aggie by themselves. One thing's for sure, if he leaves now he will be leaving the legacy he could have had behind. Everybody has to move on eventually, though. The thing he needs to come to peace with is this: does he want to be a good-to-great player in two different places and remembered by a some for a while, or does he want to be among the best at one place where he will be remembered forever?

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