New Rotation Player??

IdAggie · Post by **IdAggie** » November 9th, 2023, 2:20 pm

Look for Ian Martinez to be on the court soon as his transfer exception has been granted. He is very talented and has much to offer offensively and defensively with a very high basketball IQ.

How does he fit into the rotation? I am really liking our guard line and rotations without him.

cval · Post by **cval** » November 9th, 2023, 2:21 pm

Sounds like he may be a replacement for Agbonkpolo?

IdAggie · Post by **IdAggie** » November 9th, 2023, 2:23 pm

Forgot to mention that Max is back to full participation in practice and moving well.

cval · Post by **cval** » November 9th, 2023, 2:31 pm

Wow! Great news, but could complicate things a bit.

Falslev and Uduje have both looked good. Who loses minutes to make room for them?

Post by **treesap32** » November 9th, 2023, 2:33 pm

IdAggie wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:20 pm
Look for Ian Martinez to be on the court soon as his transfer exception has been granted. He is very talented and has much to offer offensively and defensively with a very high basketball IQ.

How does he fit into the rotation? I am really liking our guard line and rotations without him.

So reading between the lines, you have some inside information that Ian Martinez's transfer exception will be granted after all?

Post by **Aglicious** » November 9th, 2023, 2:33 pm

Almost an embarrassment of riches. How does Sprinkle find the PT for all these guys? Brown, Uduje, and Falslev can't have time cut to make room can they? These are the guys that play where Ian would so???? Playing at the 3 seems like a stretch for Martinez from a size standpoint.

AGGIE#10 · Post by **AGGIE#10** » November 9th, 2023, 2:39 pm

Wow! Idid not expect this. This is great news. He is super athletic. Not as great a 3 point shooter as some of the others but can score. Will get to the rim. I think this moves Burris to the 4 more. Depending on how Javon Jackson plays look for Mason to play a little point guard.

gwaggie · Post by **gwaggie** » November 9th, 2023, 2:40 pm

treesap32 wrote:
IdAggie wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:20 pm
Look for Ian Martinez to be on the court soon as his transfer exception has been granted. He is very talented and has much to offer offensively and defensively with a very high basketball IQ.

How does he fit into the rotation? I am really liking our guard line and rotations without him.
So reading between the lines, you have some inside information that Ian Martinez's transfer exception will be granted after all?

I’ve heard this as well

pretty exciting news

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » November 9th, 2023, 2:45 pm

How tf did he do it?? Everyone seems to be getting denied

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » November 9th, 2023, 2:54 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:45 pm
How tf did he do it?? Everyone seems to be getting denied

I'm sure there are a few others, but the only guy I'm vaguely familiar with that got an exemption if RJ Dennis for Baylor via Toledo/BSU. I know the big guy from UVU that went to Texas Tech and then to Cal got denied. My buddy said the Utes have a guy from Georgia Tech that hasn't been cleared. Not only is the NCAA not consistent, but not being able to make decisions by season's start is baffling. But hey...if we get Ian who cares about the others.

I'm excited but I'm holding my breath until the word comes straight from 22.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » November 9th, 2023, 2:57 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:54 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:45 pm
How tf did he do it?? Everyone seems to be getting denied
I'm sure there are a few others, but the only guy I'm vaguely familiar with that got an exemption if RJ Dennis for Baylor via Toledo/BSU. I know the big guy from UVU that went to Texas Tech and then to Cal got denied. My buddy said the Utes have a guy from Georgia Tech that hasn't been cleared. Not only is the NCAA not consistent, but not being able to make decisions by season's start is baffling. But hey...if we get Ian who cares about the others.

I'm excited but I'm holding my breath until the word comes straight from 22.

What IF we burned a redshirt because we expected it to be denied? IE maybe Jackson plays very little now. Or maybe Burris now plays a lot on at the 4 and you don’t see templin getting many mins. Terrible management from the ncaa.

cval · Post by **cval** » November 9th, 2023, 2:59 pm

I don’t know anything, but I would think that another exception would be in order if other decisions were made based on their tardy response.

gwaggie · Post by **gwaggie** » November 9th, 2023, 3:10 pm

cval wrote:I don’t know anything, but I would think that another exception would be in order if other decisions were made based on their tardy response.

Yeah I would think they could make a change to that, especially after only 1 game played. Then again I have no idea how it works

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » November 9th, 2023, 3:15 pm

They let football players play in 4 games and keep a redshirt. There is absolutely no reason a basketball player shouldn't get 6 or 7 games and keep their redshirt.

Post by **aggies22** » November 9th, 2023, 3:19 pm

IdAggie wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:20 pm
Look for Ian Martinez to be on the court soon as his transfer exception has been granted. He is very talented and has much to offer offensively and defensively with a very high basketball IQ.

How does he fit into the rotation? I am really liking our guard line and rotations without him.

I can confirm this as well. MIND BLOWN!!!

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » November 9th, 2023, 3:19 pm

3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 3:15 pm
They let football players play in 4 games and keep a redshirt. There is absolutely no reason a basketball player shouldn't get 6 or 7 games and keep their redshirt.

Agreed. But as you know not currently a rule.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » November 9th, 2023, 3:20 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 3:19 pm

IdAggie wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:20 pm
Look for Ian Martinez to be on the court soon as his transfer exception has been granted. He is very talented and has much to offer offensively and defensively with a very high basketball IQ.

How does he fit into the rotation? I am really liking our guard line and rotations without him.
I can confirm this as well. MIND BLOWN!!!

Depth chart now?

Post by **aggies22** » November 9th, 2023, 3:20 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 3:20 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 3:19 pm

IdAggie wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:20 pm
Look for Ian Martinez to be on the court soon as his transfer exception has been granted. He is very talented and has much to offer offensively and defensively with a very high basketball IQ.

How does he fit into the rotation? I am really liking our guard line and rotations without him.
I can confirm this as well. MIND BLOWN!!!
Depth chart now?

Ian plays a lot. Immediately. I have to agree. This likely affects Javon Jackson and Mason will play some point guard.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » November 9th, 2023, 3:46 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 3:20 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 3:20 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 3:19 pm

IdAggie wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:20 pm
Look for Ian Martinez to be on the court soon as his transfer exception has been granted. He is very talented and has much to offer offensively and defensively with a very high basketball IQ.

How does he fit into the rotation? I am really liking our guard line and rotations without him.
I can confirm this as well. MIND BLOWN!!!
Depth chart now?
Ian plays a lot. Immediately. I have to agree. This likely affects Javon Jackson and Mason will play some point guard.

When you have 4 ex-top 100 recruits, 3 other P6 offered players, three all-Big Sky players, a player had over 13 points per game last year at Costal Carolina, a player who was the star freshman in D2 ball, and 2 mid-major offered players, the wins will follow especially with NCAA tournament head coach.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » November 9th, 2023, 3:50 pm

His jersey number is #4.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » November 9th, 2023, 3:53 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 3:20 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 3:20 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 3:19 pm

IdAggie wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:20 pm
Look for Ian Martinez to be on the court soon as his transfer exception has been granted. He is very talented and has much to offer offensively and defensively with a very high basketball IQ.

How does he fit into the rotation? I am really liking our guard line and rotations without him.
I can confirm this as well. MIND BLOWN!!!
Depth chart now?
Ian plays a lot. Immediately. I have to agree. This likely affects Javon Jackson and Mason will play some point guard.

Main 4 guards are Brown, Falslev, Ian, and Uduje, Jackson is the 5th wheel in that.
I wonder the best lineup would be Ian, Brown, Falslev, Johnson, and Osobor. The speed of the guards would probably cause havoc for opposing teams.

cval · Post by **cval** » November 9th, 2023, 3:58 pm

Tough luck for Javon. I think he’s been looking really good.

I would hope he could still get a redshirt if that is the way it works out.

cval · Post by **cval** » November 9th, 2023, 4:01 pm

So, if those are the main guards, and Max and Burris play the three, doesn’t sound like there is much room for any of the guards to play there.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » November 9th, 2023, 4:08 pm

Wow this is great news that Ian will play. Going to be awesome to see how Danny manages time/positions for all these players. I hope it works out that we play a solid 10 man rotation. That can go along for foul trouble, injuries, rest etc during the end of the season.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » November 9th, 2023, 4:10 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:57 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:54 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:45 pm
How tf did he do it?? Everyone seems to be getting denied
I'm sure there are a few others, but the only guy I'm vaguely familiar with that got an exemption if RJ Dennis for Baylor via Toledo/BSU. I know the big guy from UVU that went to Texas Tech and then to Cal got denied. My buddy said the Utes have a guy from Georgia Tech that hasn't been cleared. Not only is the NCAA not consistent, but not being able to make decisions by season's start is baffling. But hey...if we get Ian who cares about the others.

I'm excited but I'm holding my breath until the word comes straight from 22.
What IF we burned a redshirt because we expected it to be denied? IE maybe Jackson plays very little now. Or maybe Burris now plays a lot on at the 4 and you don’t see templin getting many mins. Terrible management from the ncaa.

IT is mind blowing how inept the NCAA is. There is no reason to have waivers that were entered in a timely manner not be decided by before the first game of the season.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » November 9th, 2023, 4:41 pm

I found a couple of other exceptions where transfer was allowed where there was a coaching change, but that's not case with Ian or RJ Dennis and a few where there was a coaching change and were denied, like the kid from Montana St that went to West Virginia. No consistency at all with the process

SLB · Post by **SLB** » November 9th, 2023, 4:50 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 4:41 pm
I found a couple of other exceptions where transfer was allowed where there was a coaching change, but that's not case with Ian or RJ Dennis and a few where there was a coaching change and were denied, like the kid from Montana St that went to West Virginia. No consistency at all with the process

The waiver was probably based on coaching changes. I believe that we have the coach that recruited him when he was at Utah.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » November 9th, 2023, 4:53 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 4:50 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 4:41 pm
I found a couple of other exceptions where transfer was allowed where there was a coaching change, but that's not case with Ian or RJ Dennis and a few where there was a coaching change and were denied, like the kid from Montana St that went to West Virginia. No consistency at all with the process
The waiver was probably based on coaching changes. I believe that we have the coach that recruited him when he was at Utah.

Maybe so, but then again, does Baylor have a coach that recruited him to Boise or Toledo? No common denominator it seems.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » November 9th, 2023, 4:54 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 4:53 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 4:50 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 4:41 pm
I found a couple of other exceptions where transfer was allowed where there was a coaching change, but that's not case with Ian or RJ Dennis and a few where there was a coaching change and were denied, like the kid from Montana St that went to West Virginia. No consistency at all with the process
The waiver was probably based on coaching changes. I believe that we have the coach that recruited him when he was at Utah.
Maybe so, but then again, does Baylor have a coach that recruited him to Boise or Toledo? No common denominator it seems.

I am looking at what reasoning was used not if it makes sense.

cval · Post by **cval** » November 9th, 2023, 4:55 pm

Yeah. We don’t know what was said in the waiver request, or what type of stuff they look at in making the decision. Remember the guy that Stew said could have been approved if he had worded his answers just a little differently?

trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » November 9th, 2023, 5:06 pm

Dearest committee, the Utah State General Education degree has been my dream since childhood. Here is a crayon drawing of myself receiving my general ed degree I made when I was 6 - Ian probably

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » November 9th, 2023, 5:12 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 4:50 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 4:41 pm
I found a couple of other exceptions where transfer was allowed where there was a coaching change, but that's not case with Ian or RJ Dennis and a few where there was a coaching change and were denied, like the kid from Montana St that went to West Virginia. No consistency at all with the process
The waiver was probably based on coaching changes. I believe that we have the coach that recruited him when he was at Utah.

Coaching changes and "mental stress" would be my guess.

Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » November 9th, 2023, 6:51 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:57 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:54 pm

flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:45 pm
How tf did he do it?? Everyone seems to be getting denied
I'm sure there are a few others, but the only guy I'm vaguely familiar with that got an exemption if RJ Dennis for Baylor via Toledo/BSU. I know the big guy from UVU that went to Texas Tech and then to Cal got denied. My buddy said the Utes have a guy from Georgia Tech that hasn't been cleared. Not only is the NCAA not consistent, but not being able to make decisions by season's start is baffling. But hey...if we get Ian who cares about the others.

I'm excited but I'm holding my breath until the word comes straight from 22.
What IF we burned a redshirt because we expected it to be denied? IE maybe Jackson plays very little now. Or maybe Burris now plays a lot on at the 4 and you don’t see templin getting many mins. Terrible management from the ncaa.

In the era of the portal I am no longer worried about red shirts. For all I care, it just gets them close to graduating and we wasted a year developing them for someone else

cval · Post by **cval** » November 9th, 2023, 7:19 pm

While I get what you are saying, expecting to play meaningful minutes, then losing the chance on a situation like this could make one more likely to decide not to stick around.

Just seems like they are being jerked around unnecessarily.

IdaAg93 · Post by **IdaAg93** » November 9th, 2023, 7:51 pm

cval wrote: ↑
November 9th, 2023, 2:31 pm
Wow! Great news, but could complicate things a bit.

Falslev and Uduje have both looked good. Who loses minutes to make room for them?

22 was rather clear when I asked the question earlier, it'll be most Falslev. Per 22 Ian is "hand down" the better player. Put that into perspective. I like the way this year is shaping up. Bradley, here we come.

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