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Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » January 13th, 2024, 3:18 pm

Did we just get the ranked-team-benefit-of-the-doubt calls that we've always complained so much about? Because that one call seemed... bad.

blueaggie · Post by **blueaggie** » January 13th, 2024, 3:20 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:18 pm
Did we just get the ranked-team-benefit-of-the-doubt calls that we've always complained so much about? Because that one call seemed... bad.

Absolutely not.

scotlandog · Post by **scotlandog** » January 13th, 2024, 3:24 pm

I don’t know what the ref saw on that review. I do think the UNLV player touched the ball while in Falslev’s hand which caused Falslev to lose the ball but I don’t know how they say the UNLV player last touched it. Outside of that call though, I thought things were slanted towards UNLV overall. I thought Boone should have fouled out twice in the last 2-4 minutes. So there’s that.

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SectionBAggie · Post by **SectionBAggie** » January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm

Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.

trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » January 13th, 2024, 3:26 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.

Yeah, that call wasn't a big deal. The out of bounds though... I want to know what they saw

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » January 13th, 2024, 3:26 pm

You can't tackle the other team, regardless of the time or situation

Bigger_Blue_Aggie · Post by **Bigger_Blue_Aggie** » January 13th, 2024, 3:27 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:26 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.
Yeah, that call wasn't a big deal. The out of bounds though... I want to know what they saw

That one angle looked like it was out on us but I only saw that angle. They looked at it for a while so obviously they saw something we didn't.

Yossarian · Post by **Yossarian** » January 13th, 2024, 3:28 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:26 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.
Yeah, that call wasn't a big deal. The out of bounds though... I want to know what they saw

They must have seen Rodriguez' fingers tip the ball out of Falslev's hands and out of bounds.

bpd · Post by **bpd** » January 13th, 2024, 3:29 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.

I think it was a flop by Great. All just be honest, the refs screwed unlv on that call and the Mason out of bounds call.

No more complaining about the refs the rest of the year.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » January 13th, 2024, 3:30 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:28 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:26 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.
Yeah, that call wasn't a big deal. The out of bounds though... I want to know what they saw
They must have seen Rodriguez' fingers tip the ball out of Falslev's hands and out of bounds.

Must have, I guess? Because the side angle shown by ESPN made it looks like Rodriguez's hand was a good foot away from the ball when Mason touched it.

SweepDance · Post by **SweepDance** » January 13th, 2024, 3:32 pm

I thought they let a lot go in the first half which played into Osobor’s struggles and into UNLV’s favor. In the second half they called the game much tighter which benefitted our style of basketball. What a fun afternoon!

Also, apparently you can swing around on the rim all you want and it’s not a tech. (x2)

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » January 13th, 2024, 4:06 pm

SweepDance wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:32 pm
I thought they let a lot go in the first half which played into Osobor’s struggles and into UNLV’s favor. In the second half they called the game much tighter which benefitted our style of basketball. What a fun afternoon!

Also, apparently you can swing around on the rim all you want and it’s not a tech. (x2)

Yep you are never allowed to pull yourself on the rim which he did. A technical was warranted but they didn't call it.

MrBiggle · Post by **MrBiggle** » January 13th, 2024, 4:08 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:30 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:28 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:26 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.
Yeah, that call wasn't a big deal. The out of bounds though... I want to know what they saw
They must have seen Rodriguez' fingers tip the ball out of Falslev's hands and out of bounds.
Must have, I guess? Because the side angle shown by ESPN made it looks like Rodriguez's hand was a good foot away from the ball when Mason touched it.

Show me the still frame of that?

Madmartigan · Post by **Madmartigan** » January 13th, 2024, 4:10 pm

bpd wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:29 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.
I think it was a flop by Great. All just be honest, the refs screwed unlv on that call and the Mason out of bounds call.

No more complaining about the refs the rest of the year.

Don’t tell me what to do. Unless you’re telling the rest of the board that the MW isn’t actively plotting our demise and telling refs to throw refs because they “hate us”.

Post by **AGinNEIowa** » January 13th, 2024, 4:10 pm

SweepDance wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:32 pm
I thought they let a lot go in the first half which played into Osobor’s struggles and into UNLV’s favor. In the second half they called the game much tighter which benefitted our style of basketball. What a fun afternoon!

Also, apparently you can swing around on the rim all you want and it’s not a tech. (x2)

I think there was 3 times they swung on the rim - 2 in first half, then the near shot clock violation too

aggieguy13 · Post by **aggieguy13** » January 13th, 2024, 4:53 pm

That's the way the world works unfortunately. Perennial conference championship contenders and tournament teams like Utah State tend to get these kinds of calls and perennial underachieving also-rans with virtually no fanbase like UNLV do not. It's not fair and it shouldn't be that way, but it is.

IdaAg93 · Post by **IdaAg93** » January 13th, 2024, 5:09 pm

bpd wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:29 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.
I think it was a flop by Great. All just be honest, the refs screwed unlv on that call and the Mason out of bounds call.

No more complaining about the refs the rest of the year.

Maybe this was posted before Osobor's post-game interview. He said he was a little "off-balance" when he got hit and it took him off his feet. If not, I don't think he goes down and gets the call. A series of unfortunate events for UNLV. What a great finish for a game I conceded mid-way through second half.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » January 13th, 2024, 5:24 pm

aggieguy13 wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 4:53 pm
That's the way the world works unfortunately. Perennial conference championship contenders and tournament teams like Utah State tend to get these kinds of calls and perennial underachieving also-rans with virtually no fanbase like UNLV do not. It's not fair and it shouldn't be that way, but it is.

That can't be true I read all time on the MWC board from UNLV fans that they need to be respected because they won the Natty 30+ years ago.

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » January 13th, 2024, 5:30 pm

Mr. Sneelock · Post by **Mr. Sneelock** » January 13th, 2024, 5:34 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 4:06 pm

SweepDance wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:32 pm
I thought they let a lot go in the first half which played into Osobor’s struggles and into UNLV’s favor. In the second half they called the game much tighter which benefitted our style of basketball. What a fun afternoon!

Also, apparently you can swing around on the rim all you want and it’s not a tech. (x2)
Yep you are never allowed to pull yourself on the rim which he did. A technical was warranted but they didn't call it.

I mean.....is anyone really mad that they didn't call a tech there? I mean really? So he hung on the rim. BFD. Stop him from dunking, I say.

3rdGenAggie · Post by **3rdGenAggie** » January 13th, 2024, 5:39 pm

Mr. Sneelock wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 5:34 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 4:06 pm

SweepDance wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:32 pm
I thought they let a lot go in the first half which played into Osobor’s struggles and into UNLV’s favor. In the second half they called the game much tighter which benefitted our style of basketball. What a fun afternoon!

Also, apparently you can swing around on the rim all you want and it’s not a tech. (x2)
Yep you are never allowed to pull yourself on the rim which he did. A technical was warranted but they didn't call it.
I mean.....is anyone really mad that they didn't call a tech there? I mean really? So he hung on the rim. BFD. Stop him from dunking, I say.

That's not really the point.

SSaggie · Post by **SSaggie** » January 13th, 2024, 8:25 pm

I was suprosed Whaley didn't get a tech for doing the "too small" motion to Osobor in the first half.

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NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » January 13th, 2024, 8:34 pm

If I were a UNLV fan, I would have felt like my team got screwed. At the game, they were very upset. As an Aggie fan in the arena, I was quietly smiling.

Post by **aggies22** » January 13th, 2024, 8:40 pm

SweepDance wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:32 pm
I thought they let a lot go in the first half which played into Osobor’s struggles and into UNLV’s favor. In the second half they called the game much tighter which benefitted our style of basketball. What a fun afternoon!

Also, apparently you can swing around on the rim all you want and it’s not a tech. (x2)

And slap the backboard in the process.

Post by **aggies22** » January 13th, 2024, 8:42 pm

SSaggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 8:25 pm
I was suprosed Whaley didn't get a tech for doing the "too small" motion to Osobor in the first half.

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Only Bairstow gets "T'd" up for that.

FloridaAggie13 · Post by **FloridaAggie13** » January 13th, 2024, 8:47 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:26 pm
You can't tackle the other team, regardless of the time or situation

Funny, that's exactly what the refs in intramural ball said to me year after year.

Bigd23 · Post by **Bigd23** » January 13th, 2024, 8:49 pm

Mr. Sneelock wrote:
Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 4:06 pm

SweepDance wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:32 pm
I thought they let a lot go in the first half which played into Osobor’s struggles and into UNLV’s favor. In the second half they called the game much tighter which benefitted our style of basketball. What a fun afternoon!

Also, apparently you can swing around on the rim all you want and it’s not a tech. (x2)
Yep you are never allowed to pull yourself on the rim which he did. A technical was warranted but they didn't call it.
I mean.....is anyone really mad that they didn't call a tech there? I mean really? So he hung on the rim. BFD. Stop him from dunking, I say.

Yes, I really am and I was yelling at the TV at the time in watching. That is a rule violation that results in a technical foul. There was no one beneath him, so no player safety involved, and it's a matter of showing off and showing up your opponent. Absolutely should have been a technical foul.

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Pacobag · Post by **Pacobag** » January 13th, 2024, 9:26 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:28 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:26 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.
Yeah, that call wasn't a big deal. The out of bounds though... I want to know what they saw
They must have seen Rodriguez' fingers tip the ball out of Falslev's hands and out of bounds.

Were there two different broadcasts for this play? I feel like some are just talking about the initial part when an Aggie and Rebel battled for the board and the ball got tipped by one or both of them and was heading out of bounds. The part some seem to be missing is that before it actually landed out of bounds, Mason Falslev tried to grab it, but it appeared he tipped it since the ball seemed to change trajectory. I thought it was relatively obvious it went off Mason but if the refs were reviewing the part just before that and whether it was an Aggie or Rebel that touched it before Mason tried to grab it, that would explain why some of you think it was the right call or not clear enough to overturn. Looking forward to a replay.

Post by **Aglicious** » January 13th, 2024, 9:50 pm

Pacobag wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 9:26 pm

Yossarian wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:28 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:26 pm

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:25 pm
Osobar got knocked out of his path. Clearly. Had it not been called, it would have riled most USU fans.
Yeah, that call wasn't a big deal. The out of bounds though... I want to know what they saw
They must have seen Rodriguez' fingers tip the ball out of Falslev's hands and out of bounds.
Were there two different broadcasts for this play? I feel like some are just talking about the initial part when an Aggie and Rebel battled for the board and the ball got tipped by one or both of them and was heading out of bounds. The part some seem to be missing is that before it actually landed out of bounds, Mason Falslev tried to grab it, but it appeared he tipped it since the ball seemed to change trajectory. I thought it was relatively obvious it went off Mason but if the refs were reviewing the part just before that and whether it was an Aggie or Rebel that touched it before Mason tried to grab it, that would explain why some of you think it was the right call or not clear enough to overturn. Looking forward to a replay.

This is the only explanation I can think of for those thinking there was a Rebel player involved at all on that play. Mason is all by himself and tried to corral the ball with both hands after it bounced off a couple of other players. He gets his hands on it but just drops it as he tries to bring it in.

I don't believe the refs had access to the camera angles we saw on TV from behind the hoop that showed it plain as day. The baseline camera closest to the play didn't show Mason within the frame and I wonder if that is all the refs were given during review.

Bigd23 · Post by **Bigd23** » January 13th, 2024, 10:07 pm

You can't compact a game like that down to one play. There were two UNLV plays where they seemed very close to shot clock violations. Early on in the game UNLV seemed to be very physical without getting many fouls called. There is human error at several points throughout games because the refs are human at the end of the day.

The Aggies did what they had to so they could come away with a win. They focused on what was within their control.

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bpd · Post by **bpd** » January 13th, 2024, 10:08 pm

For those talking about getting a t for hanging on the rim…. I watch a lot of college basketball and I mean a lot. I’m watching the USc vs CU game right now. They have stopped calling a tech for hanging on the rim this year. They shouldn’t call it, it’s players having fun, let them have fun. Great has hung on the rim plenty this year and has not been called and he shouldn’t have.

Let’s not worry about players hanging on the rim. As the post above states, stop them.

dyedblue · Post by **dyedblue** » January 13th, 2024, 10:26 pm

The Osobor foul was legit. The guy looked back, stuck his arm out, and hip checked him. Yes he was off balance so it looked worse, but that wasn’t a terrible call.

I thought the out if bounds was awful but the rest of the game went both ways. The first half was brutal on us.

Did Osobor get fouled in his missed layup? I never saw s good replay, but that one was a bunny.

As far as the T, get over it. That’s the dumbest, most nonsensical T out there and fans crying over it need to get a life. Let the kids play and have fun.

blueaggie · Post by **blueaggie** » January 13th, 2024, 11:34 pm

bpd wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 10:08 pm
For those talking about getting a t for hanging on the rim…. I watch a lot of college basketball and I mean a lot. I’m watching the USc vs CU game right now. They have stopped calling a tech for hanging on the rim this year. They shouldn’t call it, it’s players having fun, let them have fun. Great has hung on the rim plenty this year and has not been called and he shouldn’t have.

Let’s not worry about players hanging on the rim. As the post above states, stop them.

If it is not a technical foul then take it out of the rule book. How about the lane violation they called on us. It doesn’t seem like they call that any more.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » January 13th, 2024, 11:36 pm

Mr. Sneelock wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 5:34 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 4:06 pm

SweepDance wrote: ↑
January 13th, 2024, 3:32 pm
I thought they let a lot go in the first half which played into Osobor’s struggles and into UNLV’s favor. In the second half they called the game much tighter which benefitted our style of basketball. What a fun afternoon!

Also, apparently you can swing around on the rim all you want and it’s not a tech. (x2)
Yep you are never allowed to pull yourself on the rim which he did. A technical was warranted but they didn't call it.
I mean.....is anyone really mad that they didn't call a tech there? I mean really? So he hung on the rim. BFD. Stop him from dunking, I say.

The point is that you are not supposed to pull yourself up on the rim. Absolutely stop them from dunking, the point is there are missed calls both way in every game which that is one that benefitted UNLV.

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