#16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

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Post by VegasBornAggie » January 15th, 2024, 11:10 am

Ranked 16 in the AP and 17 in the Coaches
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#16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by trevordude » January 15th, 2024, 11:14 am

The rest the MW quality teams getting votes, but not ranked


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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by AgTime » January 15th, 2024, 11:16 am

trevordude wrote:
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The rest the MW quality teams getting votes, but not ranked
SDSU at 24



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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by trevordude » January 15th, 2024, 11:20 am

AgTime wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 11:16 am
trevordude wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 11:14 am
The rest the MW quality teams getting votes, but not ranked
SDSU at 24
Ah, correct, coaches poll

Do you think Craig Smith has his wife vote for him?
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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by rAggie » January 15th, 2024, 11:20 am

One of the two voters to leave USU off admitted it was a mistake and is getting it corrected.

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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by shoresy » January 15th, 2024, 11:21 am

Disappointing to only have one MW team in the AP Poll, but pretty insane to have six teams either in or receiving votes.
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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by SLB » January 15th, 2024, 11:24 am

13-4 Creighton went 0-2 against MWC schools. Creighton is ranked ahead of us in the Coaches Poll.
Colorado State beat them 69-48.
UNLV beat them 79-64.
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Post by shoresy » January 15th, 2024, 11:26 am

SLB wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 11:24 am
13-4 Creighton went 0-2 against MWC schools. Creighton is ranked ahead of us in the Coaches Poll.
Colorado State beat them 69-48.
UNLV beat them 79-64.
So is the Coaches Poll a joke too? Or just the AP Poll?



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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by Aggie in Boise » January 15th, 2024, 11:26 am

This can't be right (16 and 17). I mean, have you seen our highlight videos compared to other top 25 teams?
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Post by Yossarian » January 15th, 2024, 11:30 am

A #16 in the AP poll and a #20 in the NET should get USU an 11 seed as the "last team in" for the NCAA tournament.
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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by jpswensen » January 15th, 2024, 11:32 am

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A #16 in the AP poll and a #20 in the NET should get USU an 11 seed as the "last team in" for the NCAA tournament.
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Post by shoresy » January 15th, 2024, 11:33 am

Yossarian wrote:
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A #16 in the AP poll and a #20 in the NET should get USU an 11 seed as the "last team in" for the NCAA tournament.
In the Big West, yes. In the Mountain West, we'd be a 5-seed.



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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by ProvoAggie » January 15th, 2024, 11:44 am

Here's a breakdown of how the Aggies were voted on everyone's ballots:
https://collegepolltracker.com/basketba ... ggies/2023
https://collegepolltracker.com/basketba ... ate-aggies



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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by AggieFBObsession » January 15th, 2024, 11:51 am

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13-4 Creighton went 0-2 against MWC schools. Creighton is ranked ahead of us in the Coaches Poll.
Colorado State beat them 69-48.
UNLV beat them 79-64.
I'm glad you mentioned Creighton. They don't belong. They've stubbed their toe too much. Marquette? Ditto. YBU will get exposed again on Tuesday.



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Post by AggieFBObsession » January 15th, 2024, 11:55 am

I should also mention that it is not correct for the AP and Coaches to keep punishing MWC teams (SDSU for example) for losing on the road to teams such as New Mexico, Utah State, SDSU, Boise State, Colorado State, Nevada. This conference has arrived, for hel!'s sake!
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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by AggieFBObsession » January 15th, 2024, 11:59 am

It's also time for the voters to get over Florida Atlantic already. Yeah. They had a final four run. That was then. This is now.
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Re: 16/17

Post by NVAggie » January 15th, 2024, 12:01 pm

That is great. I hope it continues.



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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by SLB » January 15th, 2024, 12:08 pm

MWC is 3-1 in the OOC against top 25 teams.
UNLV and Colorado State beat Creighton. (69-48 CSU and 79-64 UNLV)
Nevada beat TCU 88-75
San Diego State lost to BYU 74-65.
Seeing both TCU and Creighton ranked ahead of Nevada and Colorado State is a joke.
Something to think about with the P6 conferences.
San Diego State beat the 3rd place PAC 12 team.
Nevada beat the 3rd place Big 12 team.
Colorado State and UNLV beat the 4th place Big East team.
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Post by SLB » January 15th, 2024, 12:10 pm

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It's also time for the voters to get over Florida Atlantic already. Yeah. They had a final four run. That was then. This is now.
I noticed that the voters have a love affair with the AAC. Football and now basketball
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Post by SLB » January 15th, 2024, 12:13 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 11:55 am
I should also mention that it is not correct for the AP and Coaches to keep punishing MWC teams (SDSU for example) for losing on the road to teams such as New Mexico, Utah State, SDSU, Boise State, Colorado State, Nevada. This conference has arrived, for hel!'s sake!
The voters are making themselves look like clowns. They punished MWC teams for beating each other while rewarding teams that the MWC beat in the OOC.
I am pretty certain the voters don't even know that 13-3 Colorado State, UNLV, and 15-2 Nevada beat teams that are claimed to be so good in their rankings.
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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by AggieFBObsession » January 15th, 2024, 12:41 pm

The PAC12 is a real mystery right now. Arizona is #2 in the NET but they have lost a couple of head scratchers.
Oregon's NET is in the 50s and they're undefeated in the PAC 12 right now and sitting at #1 in that conference. I estimate that their NET is underrated right now. One of their losses is to Santa Clara. The Broncos are making us (MWC) look good right now, but the voters aren't catching on.

Arizona State is 10-6 overall but only one loss in conference. They've beaten Stanford and Utah thus far. However, they still haven't faced Arizona or Oregon.

IMO, the MWC as a whole is a significant step above the PAC12. If those are the PAC12's best 3 teams, I'd like our chances as a conference if we had a round robin with them.

Let's not forget that the majority of voters are east of the Mississippi River. As long as that's the case, there's going to be an east coast bias. The west can play basketball quite well and the MWC is evidence of that.
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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by SLB » January 15th, 2024, 12:54 pm

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketba ... 23/week-11
Here is a pollster that ranks Creighton #8 while ranks us 24th.
Someone should send this person the box score of both the Colorado State and UNLV games against Creighton then add the Aggies box score against both Colorado State and UNLV.
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Post by treesap32 » January 15th, 2024, 12:56 pm

SLB wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 12:54 pm
https://collegepolltracker.com/basketba ... 23/week-11
Here is a pollster that ranks Creighton #8 while ranks us 24th.
Someone should send this person the box score of both the Colorado State and UNLV games against Creighton then add the Aggies box score against both Colorado State and UNLV.
Not sure if the pollster subscribes to the transitive property of sports, but hey... worth a shot? :noidea:
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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by SLB » January 15th, 2024, 12:59 pm

treesap32 wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 12:56 pm
SLB wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 12:54 pm
https://collegepolltracker.com/basketba ... 23/week-11
Here is a pollster that ranks Creighton #8 while ranks us 24th.
Someone should send this person the box score of both the Colorado State and UNLV games against Creighton then add the Aggies box score against both Colorado State and UNLV.
Not sure if the pollster subscribes to the transitive property of sports, but hey... worth a shot? :noidea:
It is one thing to have one school destroying Creighton that we beat, but it is another to have 2 that we beat.



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Post by Yossarian » January 15th, 2024, 1:01 pm

SLB wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 12:54 pm
https://collegepolltracker.com/basketba ... 23/week-11
Here is a pollster that ranks Creighton #8 while ranks us 24th.
Someone should send this person the box score of both the Colorado State and UNLV games against Creighton then add the Aggies box score against both Colorado State and UNLV.
I assign you to that task. You are the "somebody'.

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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by GUS » January 15th, 2024, 1:02 pm

We need to JFW and the numbers will take care of themselves. Rent is due on Tuesday.



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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by TheMavSpec » January 15th, 2024, 1:24 pm

Nice to be getting recognition but rankings are hoopla until end of season. JF keep W



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Post by TrueAG » January 15th, 2024, 1:28 pm

TheMavSpec wrote:
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Nice to be getting recognition but rankings are hoopla until end of season. JF keep W
They matter a lot for recruiting!



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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

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TheMavSpec wrote:
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Nice to be getting recognition but rankings are hoopla until end of season. JF keep W
Hoopla. That's a bit of an exaggeration. The rankings bring attention through sports media to a program that needs the attention and deservedly so needs it. The attention helps recruiting also and brings a brand name to "Utah State". No. It's not just Hoopla. There are a lot of organizations that spend millions upon millions for similar attention. It's called marketing and marketing matters.



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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by Aggie in Boise » January 15th, 2024, 1:37 pm

SLB wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 11:24 am
13-4 Creighton went 0-2 against MWC schools. Creighton is ranked ahead of us in the Coaches Poll.
Colorado State beat them 69-48.
UNLV beat them 79-64.
I think the BJs should be ranked behind UNLV in all rankings.


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Post by Section_L_Aggie » January 15th, 2024, 1:45 pm

rAggie wrote:
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One of the two voters to leave USU off admitted it was a mistake and is getting it corrected.

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Any idea when that update will be posted?


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Re: #16 AP/ #17 Coaches poll

Post by SLB » January 15th, 2024, 1:55 pm

Section_L_Aggie wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 1:45 pm
rAggie wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 11:20 am
One of the two voters to leave USU off admitted it was a mistake and is getting it corrected.

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Any idea when that update will be posted?
It was updated.
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Post by SLB » January 15th, 2024, 1:57 pm

Tomorrow is the first true national TV game on FS1. CBS Sports is an exclusive channel that gets overlooked. The road game against San Diego State is on Fox which is also going to be a big game for national rankings.
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