Would love to see someone peg him in the face with the ball while he’s got that stupid “my daddy’s the coach so I’m a starter” grin.

That’s all I had to say.

He would start for a lot of teams without his daddy being the coach.

Not trying to rain on a parade here—but he’s not bad lol

It felt like Falslev cooked him in the first half, but then max rice woke up in the second half. During that 11 fouls in a row max had the biggest flop to draw another call.

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:13 pm

He would start for a lot of teams without his daddy being the coach.

Not trying to rain on a parade here—but he’s not bad lol

Mods please delete on account of violating board rules.

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:16 pm

It felt like Falslev cooked him in the first half, but then max rice woke up in the second half. During that 11 fouls in a row max had the biggest flop to draw another call.

I think the box scores disagree with him getting “cooked”

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:13 pm

He would start for a lot of teams without his daddy being the coach.

Not trying to rain on a parade here—but he’s not bad lol

I just read an entertaining meltdown of the Bosie board where they claimed the very opposite about rice. Bosie fans are calling for Rice to be fired. They are so tired of USU bringing in new coach after new coach and doing better than them.

Volume shooting for 14 points. 15 shots and 5 FTs. Effective FG% was 73% Nothing to write home about.

Even Isaac going 0-5 from 3 had a better EFG%.

jazzdog56466 wrote:He would start for a lot of teams without his daddy being the coach.

Not trying to rain on a parade here—but he’s not bad lol

I 100% disagree with this. He literally shoots from the hip meaning he has to be wide open to get a shot. He is not quick, has no hops and does not finish well at the rim. He makes the occasional good pass. If he was awarded an extra year, I don’t think Danny would take him to run next years team.


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#1 they lack strong leadership. We understand how critical it is to have strong pg play. Name all the great Aggie pgs. It doesn't start there but a coach can't leave his imprint without it.
#2. They lack athleticism. They lack speed. They often have guys that are good basketball players but don't have basketball bodies.
#3 Anyone remember Koby Karl? What's with the nepotism? It's never good for team chemistry.
#4 You can't have a disciplined team without a disciplined coach. Why in the world would you hire Duryea? Because your HC is already undisciplined. It seems like Leon didn't learn that much from Mark Few who absolutely is disciplined.

What's the deal with their backup pg? He makes one good play the entire game and slapping the floor and celebrating like he made a game winning shot to win the conference

Blitz79 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 7:10 pm

What's the deal with their backup pg? He makes one good play the entire game and slapping the floor and celebrating like he made a game winning shot to win the conference

Super annoying. Also someone might want to buy him a razor. That might be the worst beard I’ve ever seen.

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:53 pm

#1 they lack strong leadership. We understand how critical it is to have strong pg play. Name all the great Aggie pgs. It doesn't start there but a coach can't leave his imprint without it.
#2. They lack athleticism. They lack speed. They often have guys that are good basketball players but don't have basketball bodies.
#3 Anyone remember Koby Karl? What's with the nepotism? It's never good for team chemistry.
#4 You can't have a disciplined team without a disciplined coach. Why in the world would you hire Duryea? Because your HC is already undisciplined. It seems like Leon didn't learn that much from Mark Few who absolutely is disciplined.

There's not a team in the league that would happily take Dagenhart, Agbo, and Stanley. That is a solid core.

Yossarian wrote:

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:53 pm

#1 they lack strong leadership. We understand how critical it is to have strong pg play. Name all the great Aggie pgs. It doesn't start there but a coach can't leave his imprint without it.
#2. They lack athleticism. They lack speed. They often have guys that are good basketball players but don't have basketball bodies.
#3 Anyone remember Koby Karl? What's with the nepotism? It's never good for team chemistry.
#4 You can't have a disciplined team without a disciplined coach. Why in the world would you hire Duryea? Because your HC is already undisciplined. It seems like Leon didn't learn that much from Mark Few who absolutely is disciplined.

There's not a team in the league that would happily take Dagenhart, Agbo, and Stanley. That is a solid core.

Think you mean wouldn’t take. I would take all 3.


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FeartheFro wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:49 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote:He would start for a lot of teams without his daddy being the coach.

Not trying to rain on a parade here—but he’s not bad lol

I 100% disagree with this. He literally shoots from the hip meaning he has to be wide open to get a shot. He is not quick, has no hops and does not finish well at the rim. He makes the occasional good pass. If he was awarded an extra year, I don’t think Danny would take him to run next years team.


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I’m not saying Max is Michael Jordan. It’s just sometimes our fans get a little carried away.

There are plenty of schools in the Country where Max Rice could and would start. Last year he averaged 14 points per game, shooting 41 percent from 3, and getting almost 5 rebounds a night.

I agree with you about him not being a great ball handler or extremely quick.

But he’s definitely good enough to play for a lot of schools.

Dkdavis wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:44 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:13 pm

He would start for a lot of teams without his daddy being the coach.

Not trying to rain on a parade here—but he’s not bad lol

I just read an entertaining meltdown of the Bosie board where they claimed the very opposite about rice. Bosie fans are calling for Rice to be fired. They are so tired of USU bringing in new coach after new coach and doing better than them.

That would be a stupid move. When did Boise ever do anything in basketball before Rice? As much as I loathe Rice he is a decent coach.

Dkdavis wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:44 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:13 pm

He would start for a lot of teams without his daddy being the coach.

Not trying to rain on a parade here—but he’s not bad lol

I just read an entertaining meltdown of the Bosie board where they claimed the very opposite about rice. Bosie fans are calling for Rice to be fired. They are so tired of USU bringing in new coach after new coach and doing better than them.

I was referring to the player, Max. Was just saying he could start for a lot of teams.

I don’t know where I stand on Leon as a coach. Yes, they could probably get better. But he has them top 5 in conference every year so I don’t know

I hate Leon! But he has done an amazing job! Like 84% in conference home games it said on the broadcast. He has been a good coach for them.

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:53 pm

#1 they lack strong leadership. We understand how critical it is to have strong pg play. Name all the great Aggie pgs. It doesn't start there but a coach can't leave his imprint without it.
#2. They lack athleticism. They lack speed. They often have guys that are good basketball players but don't have basketball bodies.
#3 Anyone remember Koby Karl? What's with the nepotism? It's never good for team chemistry.
#4 You can't have a disciplined team without a disciplined coach. Why in the world would you hire Duryea? Because your HC is already undisciplined. It seems like Leon didn't learn that much from Mark Few who absolutely is disciplined.

They just took us to overtime. It’s not like we blew them out by 30 points.

Blitz79 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 7:10 pm

What's the deal with their backup pg? He makes one good play the entire game and slapping the floor and celebrating like he made a game winning shot to win the conference

USU FB Defense effect?

ususports wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 7:42 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:53 pm

#1 they lack strong leadership. We understand how critical it is to have strong pg play. Name all the great Aggie pgs. It doesn't start there but a coach can't leave his imprint without it.
#2. They lack athleticism. They lack speed. They often have guys that are good basketball players but don't have basketball bodies.
#3 Anyone remember Koby Karl? What's with the nepotism? It's never good for team chemistry.
#4 You can't have a disciplined team without a disciplined coach. Why in the world would you hire Duryea? Because your HC is already undisciplined. It seems like Leon didn't learn that much from Mark Few who absolutely is disciplined.

They just took us to overtime. It’s not like we blew them out by 30 points.

The points are in reference to the program as a whole, not to this season. Go back and reread the OP's post and you'll see that we're talking about their program as a whole. What I said, you could apply it to any Bronco team and it'd still be applicable. They have a good team, but it's not at an elite level for the reasons I mentioned.

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 7:27 pm

Dkdavis wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:44 pm

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:13 pm

He would start for a lot of teams without his daddy being the coach.

Not trying to rain on a parade here—but he’s not bad lol

I just read an entertaining meltdown of the Bosie board where they claimed the very opposite about rice. Bosie fans are calling for Rice to be fired. They are so tired of USU bringing in new coach after new coach and doing better than them.

I was referring to the player, Max. Was just saying he could start for a lot of teams.

I don’t know where I stand on Leon as a coach. Yes, they could probably get better. But he has them top 5 in conference every year so I don’t know

… I was confusing by referring to max and Leon as Rice in the same paragraph. Their fans were saying Max was their weak point and that he wouldn’t even start on USUs team.

They were also calling out a coaching change because they are tired of Leon.

jazzdog56466 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:13 pm

He would start for a lot of teams without his daddy being the coach.

Not trying to rain on a parade here—but he’s not bad lol

That is probably a true statement. However, it does not change the fact that it would be awesome to see someone throw a ball in his face.

Yossarian wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 7:14 pm

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:53 pm

#1 they lack strong leadership. We understand how critical it is to have strong pg play. Name all the great Aggie pgs. It doesn't start there but a coach can't leave his imprint without it.
#2. They lack athleticism. They lack speed. They often have guys that are good basketball players but don't have basketball bodies.
#3 Anyone remember Koby Karl? What's with the nepotism? It's never good for team chemistry.
#4 You can't have a disciplined team without a disciplined coach. Why in the world would you hire Duryea? Because your HC is already undisciplined. It seems like Leon didn't learn that much from Mark Few who absolutely is disciplined.

There's not a team in the league that would happily take Dagenhart, Agbo, and Stanley. That is a solid core.

Would we take Degenhart over Osobor? I doubt it.
Would we take Agbo over Ian Martinez? Nope. Not a chance.
Would we take Anderson over Brown? Nope. That much is extremely clear.

Look Degenhart is a very good player, but he isn't on the elite level of most top 4s in the p5s. He's a good three point shooter but his athleticism isn't elite nor is his physicality elite in the post. Osobor will be able to match up against just about anyone when we're in the tournament.

That's not to say that the media will exclude him from getting honors. Just remember that Boise media has more votes than the few we have.

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 7:13 pm

Blitz79 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 7:10 pm

What's the deal with their backup pg? He makes one good play the entire game and slapping the floor and celebrating like he made a game winning shot to win the conference

Super annoying. Also someone might want to buy him a razor. That might be the worst beard I’ve ever seen.

His mom is the womens byu basketball coach… that’ll tell you something

Down the stretch Rice cost them today. Missed a lot of inside shots and some of those shots should clearly have been a pass on the pick and roll. I don't watch them enough to know if he was on an off night or if that is normal.

pilotaggie wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 9:16 pm

Down the stretch Rice cost them today. Missed a lot of inside shots and some of those shots should clearly have been a pass on the pick and roll. I don't watch them enough to know if he was on an off night or if that is normal.

Typical. He thinks too highly of his own ability to score

Yossarian wrote:

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:53 pm

#1 they lack strong leadership. We understand how critical it is to have strong pg play. Name all the great Aggie pgs. It doesn't start there but a coach can't leave his imprint without it.
#2. They lack athleticism. They lack speed. They often have guys that are good basketball players but don't have basketball bodies.
#3 Anyone remember Koby Karl? What's with the nepotism? It's never good for team chemistry.
#4 You can't have a disciplined team without a disciplined coach. Why in the world would you hire Duryea? Because your HC is already undisciplined. It seems like Leon didn't learn that much from Mark Few who absolutely is disciplined.

There's not a team in the league that would happily take Dagenhart, Agbo, and Stanley. That is a solid core.

I could think of one team...

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Blitz79 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 7:10 pm

What's the deal with their backup pg? He makes one good play the entire game and slapping the floor and celebrating like he made a game winning shot to win the conference

Even the commentators said something to the effect of, “you don’t slap the ground in front of one of the best point guards in the conference”

BioAggie wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 10:21 pm

Blitz79 wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 7:10 pm

What's the deal with their backup pg? He makes one good play the entire game and slapping the floor and celebrating like he made a game winning shot to win the conference

Even the commentators said something to the effect of, “you don’t slap the ground in front of one of the best point guards in the conference”

Whiting is the perfect example of what I'm talking about and the type of player that Leon recruits. Good basketball player but not elite level in this conference. If Bozo State is going to consistently win this conference they have to change a lot of things about their program.

pilotaggie wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 9:16 pm

Down the stretch Rice cost them today. Missed a lot of inside shots and some of those shots should clearly have been a pass on the pick and roll. I don't watch them enough to know if he was on an off night or if that is normal.

He has not been near as good this year as last imo. The entire team misses their pg from last year. They don’t have a creator type on that roster

Broncos have a good home court advantage and a big 3 of Stanley, Agbo and Degenhart that are really good. Fortunately they took a big step back in PG, Rice hasn’t been very good, and their bench isn’t good. Coaching staff really whiffed building better team around those three.

pilotaggie wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 9:16 pm

Down the stretch Rice cost them today. Missed a lot of inside shots and some of those shots should clearly have been a pass on the pick and roll. I don't watch them enough to know if he was on an off night or if that is normal.

he was 4-15 which is 26.67%
7.4 down from his season average of 34.1%

but he scored 14 points, which is up 2.5 from his season average of 11.5

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

January 27th, 2024, 6:53 pm

#1 they lack strong leadership. We understand how critical it is to have strong pg play. Name all the great Aggie pgs. It doesn't start there but a coach can't leave his imprint without it.
#2. They lack athleticism. They lack speed. They often have guys that are good basketball players but don't have basketball bodies.
#3 Anyone remember Koby Karl? What's with the nepotism? It's never good for team chemistry.
#4 You can't have a disciplined team without a disciplined coach. Why in the world would you hire Duryea? Because your HC is already undisciplined. It seems like Leon didn't learn that much from Mark Few who absolutely is disciplined.

This is a real poor take. Take off the blue glasses and just analyze basketball

1. Leon is a really good coach. Is he a whiney b1tch? Yes. But the dude can coach. Duryea is also a hell of an assistant. Stew will tell you that.

2 They aren’t super athletic, but athletic enough. Agbo is the real deal, so is Stanley and Deghenhart. Have you seen the lack of athleticism at Utah State the last 15 years?

3 Koby Karl was a real good player. He played in the NBA. Recruiting coaches kids is a good idea because they know the game.

4. Again,Stew hired Durya and it worked out pretty good for him. And it’s worked out pretty good for Rice. Duryea wasn’t a good head coach, but he loved Utah State and did a good job as an assistant.

bpd wrote: ↑

January 28th, 2024, 8:52 am

This is a real poor take. Take off the blue glasses and just analyze basketball

1. Leon is a really good coach. Is he a whiney b1tch? Yes. But the dude can coach. Duryea is also a hell of an assistant. Stew will tell you that.

2 They aren’t super athletic, but athletic enough. Agbo is the real deal, so is Stanley and Deghenhart. Have you seen the lack of athleticism at Utah State the last 15 years?

3 Koby Karl was a real good player. He played in the NBA. Recruiting coaches kids is a good idea because they know the game.

4. Again,Stew hired Durya and it worked out pretty good for him. And it’s worked out pretty good for Rice. Duryea wasn’t a good head coach, but he loved Utah State and did a good job as an assistant.

#1 Being a good coach and one that can recruit are two different things. Rare that you get both. He's not both. See Dutcher, Pitino. Yes, I know that UNM hasn't won an MWC title, but the prognosticators are looking their direction this year, not only to win the MWC title but also making a run in the dance. He can recruit and he can coach, that is Pitino. Rice is the opposite of Kruger. Kruger can recruit but not the best coach. Regarding Duryea, Stew's not going to throw his former assistant under the bus.
#2 Agbo, Degenhart and Stanley are good players. However, ask yourself why they can't win the critical games this year. I'm not just talking about the Utah State game. It's obvious. Nepotism kept them from getting an elite level player in the backcourt. Rice is not an elite level player. He's not nearly on the level of the majority of guards on the top 7 MWC teams. You may say that he's a good three point shooter or whatever. However, what else can he do to change the game? Litterally almost nothing. The bottom line is that they get in their own way when they recruit.
#3 Koby Karl, yes, was a good player, but the culture of nepotism will not get you from point A to point B in terms of a program as a whole? Who of the elite coaches that you know of had their own kids on the roster?
#4 Duryea? Can he recruit? An assistant's job is to not only coach individual players, but also to recruit. IMO, he's not a good recruiter. I'm glad he's in Boise.

So, if you're still lost and I'm still not making the points clear to you. Just spend some time thinking about what Dutcher has done at SDSU. Look at the athletes at UNM and how they can run you off the court. Look at what Sprinkle has done at Utah State in less than 1 year. Rice has been in Boise for how many years now? And they're still not on an upward trajectory. How many more years will it take before they say the mediocrity is enough? Again, I know you'll point to 20 win seasons. But with the resources that they have, they shouldn't have any trouble putting together a basketball program better than that. Hell, UNLV has a similar problem. They can recruit but they can't win. Why? It's simple. The coach.