El Chapin wrote:Is it just me or has USU's rebounding gotten progresively worse over the second half of the season? It seems like we're giving up significant second chances. This has to be fixed against a bigger, more physical SDSU team.

Also, since when did Osobor start playing the "ole" defense? On multiple occassions he simply quit on defensive plays against CSU letting guys drive right by him.

Here's hoping they can effectively address these issues or tonight's game won't have the outcome we want.

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February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:49 pm

we are 28th as a team in defensive rebounding percentage. When we didn't do that well (at all) vs CSU, we fell apart. It hurt our offense because we didn't get into transition. It hurt our defense because they were getting an extra shot attempt on 67% of their misses for the first 15 minutes.

SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

JFWAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:07 pm

The only player I am seeing going hard for rebounds is our PG, that has to change

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

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SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

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February 20th, 2024, 2:04 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:54 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

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SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:04 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:54 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

None of the stats I listed would be affected by minutes per game in the way you suggest as they were percentages and per 40 minute stats, not totals. Johnson would actually be helped by this if he played fewer minutes because he would theoretically be playing at higher energy for the per 40 (This is why Burris leads this category; can play at 100% and 1 rebound goes a longer way over his limited time on the floor than Great's minutes)

How are you going to claim that Johnson is the "lone defensive rebounder" and then say he doesn't get defensive rebounds because he doesn't play in position to get them? It isn't even true. Johnson is in the paint on defensive rebounds nearly as much as Great; if he isn't in position to rebound, then that indicates he isn't the "lone defensive rebounder" on the team. I can tell you the reason why Johnson doesn't have more defensive rebounds and it is because Great is a better rebounder than he is, so he takes them all.

Let me cut off your next argument, which I can only assume is "yeah, but when the defensive rebound is caught by Johnson, he gets more defensive rebounds" and say yes you are correct on that one.

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QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:11 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:04 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:54 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

None of the stats I listed would be affected by minutes per game in the way you suggest as they were percentages and per 40 minute stats, not totals. Johnson would actually be helped by this if he played fewer minutes because he would theoretically be playing at higher energy for the per 40 (This is why Burris leads this category; can play at 100% and 1 rebound goes a longer way over his limited time on the floor than Great's minutes)

How are you going to claim that Johnson is the "lone defensive rebounder" and then say he doesn't get defensive rebounds because he doesn't play in position to get them? It isn't even true. Johnson is in the paint on defensive rebounds nearly as much as Great; if he isn't in position to rebound, then that indicates he isn't the "lone defensive rebounder" on the team. I can tell you the reason why Johnson doesn't have more defensive rebounds and it is because Great is a better rebounder than he is, so he takes them all.

Let me cut off your next argument, which I can only assume is "yeah, but when the defensive rebound is caught by Johnson, he gets more defensive rebounds" and say yes you are correct on that one.

The paint extends past the 3-point line. An interesting point

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:49 pm

we are 28th as a team in defensive rebounding percentage. When we didn't do that well (at all) vs CSU, we fell apart. It hurt our offense because we didn't get into transition. It hurt our defense because they were getting an extra shot attempt on 67% of their misses for the first 15 minutes.

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QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

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SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

None of the stats I listed would be affected by minutes per game in the way you suggest as they were percentages and per 40 minute stats, not totals. Johnson would actually be helped by this if he played fewer minutes because he would theoretically be playing at higher energy for the per 40 (This is why Burris leads this category; can play at 100% and 1 rebound goes a longer way over his limited time on the floor than Great's minutes)

How are you going to claim that Johnson is the "lone defensive rebounder" and then say he doesn't get defensive rebounds because he doesn't play in position to get them? It isn't even true. Johnson is in the paint on defensive rebounds nearly as much as Great; if he isn't in position to rebound, then that indicates he isn't the "lone defensive rebounder" on the team. I can tell you the reason why Johnson doesn't have more defensive rebounds and it is because Great is a better rebounder than he is, so he takes them all.

Let me cut off your next argument, which I can only assume is "yeah, but when the defensive rebound is caught by Johnson, he gets more defensive rebounds" and say yes you are correct on that one.

The paint extends past the 3-point line. An interesting point

Osobor is 16th in the NCAA at defensive rebounding percentage (and 12th for TRB%). The top 100 of this stat has 55 guards. Are they also playing solely below the basket, you think?

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February 20th, 2024, 2:31 pm

I haven’t paid close enough attention to know for sure but have opponents been sending more guys to the offensive board and taking more chances with us on transition D. Earlier in the season were opponents focusing on sending there guys back on D and not giving up transition points? Is this a strategy that showed up on tape perhaps the first time we played SDSU and now it is time for our coaches to respond with a counter strategy?

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nswaggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:31 pm

I haven’t paid close enough attention to know for sure but have opponents been sending more guys to the offensive board and taking more chances with us on transition D. Earlier in the season were opponents focusing on sending there guys back on D and not giving up transition points? Is this a strategy that showed up on tape perhaps the first time we played SDSU and now it is time for our coaches to respond with a counter strategy?

This is true. They know that Osobor does not cleanly get defensive rebounds, so he is getting beaten badly on the boards on the defensive side. We need Johnson to keep on improving to counter it.

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QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

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we are 28th as a team in defensive rebounding percentage. When we didn't do that well (at all) vs CSU, we fell apart. It hurt our offense because we didn't get into transition. It hurt our defense because they were getting an extra shot attempt on 67% of their misses for the first 15 minutes.

Johnson got into foul trouble then defensive rebounding collapsed. It has been a theme for some time.

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SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

None of the stats I listed would be affected by minutes per game in the way you suggest as they were percentages and per 40 minute stats, not totals. Johnson would actually be helped by this if he played fewer minutes because he would theoretically be playing at higher energy for the per 40 (This is why Burris leads this category; can play at 100% and 1 rebound goes a longer way over his limited time on the floor than Great's minutes)

How are you going to claim that Johnson is the "lone defensive rebounder" and then say he doesn't get defensive rebounds because he doesn't play in position to get them? It isn't even true. Johnson is in the paint on defensive rebounds nearly as much as Great; if he isn't in position to rebound, then that indicates he isn't the "lone defensive rebounder" on the team. I can tell you the reason why Johnson doesn't have more defensive rebounds and it is because Great is a better rebounder than he is, so he takes them all.

Let me cut off your next argument, which I can only assume is "yeah, but when the defensive rebound is caught by Johnson, he gets more defensive rebounds" and say yes you are correct on that one.

The paint extends past the 3-point line. An interesting point

Osobor is 16th in the NCAA at defensive rebounding percentage (and 12th for TRB%). The top 100 of this stat has 55 guards. Are they also playing solely below the basket, you think?

You don't watch the games. I watch them, and the defensive rebounding is there with Johnson. Without Johnson, our defensive rebounding collapses. Osobor sucks up garbage defensive rebounds all the time with him being underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson is the only one that actually battles and gets the defensive rebounds.

SLB wrote: ↑

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nswaggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:31 pm

I haven’t paid close enough attention to know for sure but have opponents been sending more guys to the offensive board and taking more chances with us on transition D. Earlier in the season were opponents focusing on sending there guys back on D and not giving up transition points? Is this a strategy that showed up on tape perhaps the first time we played SDSU and now it is time for our coaches to respond with a counter strategy?

This is true. They know that Osobor does not cleanly get defensive rebounds, so he is getting beaten badly on the boards on the defensive side. We need Johnson to keep on improving to counter it.

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SLB wrote: ↑

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Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

None of the stats I listed would be affected by minutes per game in the way you suggest as they were percentages and per 40 minute stats, not totals. Johnson would actually be helped by this if he played fewer minutes because he would theoretically be playing at higher energy for the per 40 (This is why Burris leads this category; can play at 100% and 1 rebound goes a longer way over his limited time on the floor than Great's minutes)

How are you going to claim that Johnson is the "lone defensive rebounder" and then say he doesn't get defensive rebounds because he doesn't play in position to get them? It isn't even true. Johnson is in the paint on defensive rebounds nearly as much as Great; if he isn't in position to rebound, then that indicates he isn't the "lone defensive rebounder" on the team. I can tell you the reason why Johnson doesn't have more defensive rebounds and it is because Great is a better rebounder than he is, so he takes them all.

Let me cut off your next argument, which I can only assume is "yeah, but when the defensive rebound is caught by Johnson, he gets more defensive rebounds" and say yes you are correct on that one.

The paint extends past the 3-point line. An interesting point

Osobor is 16th in the NCAA at defensive rebounding percentage (and 12th for TRB%). The top 100 of this stat has 55 guards. Are they also playing solely below the basket, you think?

You don't watch the games. I watch them, and the defensive rebounding is there with Johnson. Without Johnson, our defensive rebounding collapses. Osobor sucks up garbage defensive rebounds all the time with him being underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson is the only one that actually battles and gets the defensive rebounds.

We are both watching the games. One of us says that Great is a better rebounder. One of us says it is Johnson. One of those two players is leading the nation in defensive rebounding percentage. But I'm sure if Johnson is going to be out of the starting lineup tonight it'll be because of the offensive spark that Sakho brings despite the step down from the mythical rebounder Johnson.

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Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

None of the stats I listed would be affected by minutes per game in the way you suggest as they were percentages and per 40 minute stats, not totals. Johnson would actually be helped by this if he played fewer minutes because he would theoretically be playing at higher energy for the per 40 (This is why Burris leads this category; can play at 100% and 1 rebound goes a longer way over his limited time on the floor than Great's minutes)

How are you going to claim that Johnson is the "lone defensive rebounder" and then say he doesn't get defensive rebounds because he doesn't play in position to get them? It isn't even true. Johnson is in the paint on defensive rebounds nearly as much as Great; if he isn't in position to rebound, then that indicates he isn't the "lone defensive rebounder" on the team. I can tell you the reason why Johnson doesn't have more defensive rebounds and it is because Great is a better rebounder than he is, so he takes them all.

Let me cut off your next argument, which I can only assume is "yeah, but when the defensive rebound is caught by Johnson, he gets more defensive rebounds" and say yes you are correct on that one.

The paint extends past the 3-point line. An interesting point

Osobor is 16th in the NCAA at defensive rebounding percentage (and 12th for TRB%). The top 100 of this stat has 55 guards. Are they also playing solely below the basket, you think?

You don't watch the games. I watch them, and the defensive rebounding is there with Johnson. Without Johnson, our defensive rebounding collapses. Osobor sucks up garbage defensive rebounds all the time with him being underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson is the only one that actually battles and gets the defensive rebounds.

We are both watching the games. One of us says that Great is a better rebounder. One of us says it is Johnson. One of those two players is leading the nation in defensive rebounding percentage. But I'm sure if Johnson is going to be out of the starting lineup tonight it'll be because of the offensive spark that Sakho brings despite the step down from the mythical rebounder Johnson.

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SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

None of the stats I listed would be affected by minutes per game in the way you suggest as they were percentages and per 40 minute stats, not totals. Johnson would actually be helped by this if he played fewer minutes because he would theoretically be playing at higher energy for the per 40 (This is why Burris leads this category; can play at 100% and 1 rebound goes a longer way over his limited time on the floor than Great's minutes)

How are you going to claim that Johnson is the "lone defensive rebounder" and then say he doesn't get defensive rebounds because he doesn't play in position to get them? It isn't even true. Johnson is in the paint on defensive rebounds nearly as much as Great; if he isn't in position to rebound, then that indicates he isn't the "lone defensive rebounder" on the team. I can tell you the reason why Johnson doesn't have more defensive rebounds and it is because Great is a better rebounder than he is, so he takes them all.

Let me cut off your next argument, which I can only assume is "yeah, but when the defensive rebound is caught by Johnson, he gets more defensive rebounds" and say yes you are correct on that one.

The paint extends past the 3-point line. An interesting point

Osobor is 16th in the NCAA at defensive rebounding percentage (and 12th for TRB%). The top 100 of this stat has 55 guards. Are they also playing solely below the basket, you think?

You don't watch the games. I watch them, and the defensive rebounding is there with Johnson. Without Johnson, our defensive rebounding collapses. Osobor sucks up garbage defensive rebounds all the time with him being underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson is the only one that actually battles and gets the defensive rebounds.

We are both watching the games. One of us says that Great is a better rebounder. One of us says it is Johnson. One of those two players is leading the nation in defensive rebounding percentage. But I'm sure if Johnson is going to be out of the starting lineup tonight it'll be because of the offensive spark that Sakho brings despite the step down from the mythical rebounder Johnson.

You don't understand what I said at any point, and you don't watch the games.
Johnson is better at defensive rebounding, and Osobor is better at offensive rebounding. I did not say that either one is a better overall rebounder. Johnson is key for defensive rebounds since the rest of the team struggles at defensive rebounding.

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Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

None of the stats I listed would be affected by minutes per game in the way you suggest as they were percentages and per 40 minute stats, not totals. Johnson would actually be helped by this if he played fewer minutes because he would theoretically be playing at higher energy for the per 40 (This is why Burris leads this category; can play at 100% and 1 rebound goes a longer way over his limited time on the floor than Great's minutes)

How are you going to claim that Johnson is the "lone defensive rebounder" and then say he doesn't get defensive rebounds because he doesn't play in position to get them? It isn't even true. Johnson is in the paint on defensive rebounds nearly as much as Great; if he isn't in position to rebound, then that indicates he isn't the "lone defensive rebounder" on the team. I can tell you the reason why Johnson doesn't have more defensive rebounds and it is because Great is a better rebounder than he is, so he takes them all.

Let me cut off your next argument, which I can only assume is "yeah, but when the defensive rebound is caught by Johnson, he gets more defensive rebounds" and say yes you are correct on that one.

The paint extends past the 3-point line. An interesting point

Osobor is 16th in the NCAA at defensive rebounding percentage (and 12th for TRB%). The top 100 of this stat has 55 guards. Are they also playing solely below the basket, you think?

You don't watch the games. I watch them, and the defensive rebounding is there with Johnson. Without Johnson, our defensive rebounding collapses. Osobor sucks up garbage defensive rebounds all the time with him being underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson is the only one that actually battles and gets the defensive rebounds.

We are both watching the games. One of us says that Great is a better rebounder. One of us says it is Johnson. One of those two players is leading the nation in defensive rebounding percentage. But I'm sure if Johnson is going to be out of the starting lineup tonight it'll be because of the offensive spark that Sakho brings despite the step down from the mythical rebounder Johnson.

You went into an argument without watching the games. There are replayed games on this site.

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Rebounding is a team thing. One person can't block out everyone.

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QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:54 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

None of the stats I listed would be affected by minutes per game in the way you suggest as they were percentages and per 40 minute stats, not totals. Johnson would actually be helped by this if he played fewer minutes because he would theoretically be playing at higher energy for the per 40 (This is why Burris leads this category; can play at 100% and 1 rebound goes a longer way over his limited time on the floor than Great's minutes)

How are you going to claim that Johnson is the "lone defensive rebounder" and then say he doesn't get defensive rebounds because he doesn't play in position to get them? It isn't even true. Johnson is in the paint on defensive rebounds nearly as much as Great; if he isn't in position to rebound, then that indicates he isn't the "lone defensive rebounder" on the team. I can tell you the reason why Johnson doesn't have more defensive rebounds and it is because Great is a better rebounder than he is, so he takes them all.

Let me cut off your next argument, which I can only assume is "yeah, but when the defensive rebound is caught by Johnson, he gets more defensive rebounds" and say yes you are correct on that one.

The paint extends past the 3-point line. An interesting point

Osobor is 16th in the NCAA at defensive rebounding percentage (and 12th for TRB%). The top 100 of this stat has 55 guards. Are they also playing solely below the basket, you think?

You don't watch the games. I watch them, and the defensive rebounding is there with Johnson. Without Johnson, our defensive rebounding collapses. Osobor sucks up garbage defensive rebounds all the time with him being underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson is the only one that actually battles and gets the defensive rebounds.

We are both watching the games. One of us says that Great is a better rebounder. One of us says it is Johnson. One of those two players is leading the nation in defensive rebounding percentage. But I'm sure if Johnson is going to be out of the starting lineup tonight it'll be because of the offensive spark that Sakho brings despite the step down from the mythical rebounder Johnson.

You went into an argument without watching the games. There are replayed games on this site.

You haven't watched an aggies game in 20 years.

Am I doing this right? Just making up random facts?

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QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:53 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:51 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:44 pm

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February 20th, 2024, 2:27 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:22 pm

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February 20th, 2024, 2:18 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:11 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 2:04 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:54 pm

SLB wrote: ↑

February 20th, 2024, 1:32 pm

Osobor can get offensive rebounds but not good at defensive rebounds.
Johnson is the lone defensive rebounder, but he plays limited minutes.

Great is second on the team in defensive rebound percentage at 21.9% (Burris is first at 24.4) and Johnson is at 19.3%. The distance between Osobor and Johnson is greater ( ) than the gap between Johnson and Templin, our fifth best defensive rebounder.

Jackson Grant actually has the biggest offensive rebound percentage followed by Sakho, Great, Templin. Johnson is 9th, well behind Falslev.

Looking at these stats, it is clear that Uduje could be a better rebounder when he is in the game. He is 12th in rebounds per 40 minutes on our team, 12th in defensive rebounding percentage, and 10th in offensive rebounding percentage.

Osobor plays underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson plays both inside and outside. When Johnson is playing inside, we get defensive rebounds. Osobor gets a number of rebounds per game because Osobor plays 33.1 minutes per game.

None of the stats I listed would be affected by minutes per game in the way you suggest as they were percentages and per 40 minute stats, not totals. Johnson would actually be helped by this if he played fewer minutes because he would theoretically be playing at higher energy for the per 40 (This is why Burris leads this category; can play at 100% and 1 rebound goes a longer way over his limited time on the floor than Great's minutes)

How are you going to claim that Johnson is the "lone defensive rebounder" and then say he doesn't get defensive rebounds because he doesn't play in position to get them? It isn't even true. Johnson is in the paint on defensive rebounds nearly as much as Great; if he isn't in position to rebound, then that indicates he isn't the "lone defensive rebounder" on the team. I can tell you the reason why Johnson doesn't have more defensive rebounds and it is because Great is a better rebounder than he is, so he takes them all.

Let me cut off your next argument, which I can only assume is "yeah, but when the defensive rebound is caught by Johnson, he gets more defensive rebounds" and say yes you are correct on that one.

The paint extends past the 3-point line. An interesting point

Osobor is 16th in the NCAA at defensive rebounding percentage (and 12th for TRB%). The top 100 of this stat has 55 guards. Are they also playing solely below the basket, you think?

You don't watch the games. I watch them, and the defensive rebounding is there with Johnson. Without Johnson, our defensive rebounding collapses. Osobor sucks up garbage defensive rebounds all the time with him being underneath the hoop 24/7, but Johnson is the only one that actually battles and gets the defensive rebounds.

We are both watching the games. One of us says that Great is a better rebounder. One of us says it is Johnson. One of those two players is leading the nation in defensive rebounding percentage. But I'm sure if Johnson is going to be out of the starting lineup tonight it'll be because of the offensive spark that Sakho brings despite the step down from the mythical rebounder Johnson.

You went into an argument without watching the games. There are replayed games on this site.

You haven't watched an aggies game in 20 years.

Am I doing this right? Just making up random facts?

You should see him in the Sandbox. He dabbles in falsehoods the way Whitman works in prose. It's wrong, but one has to admire his artistry.

Good luck.