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Utah HS recruits
Both Chris Cox and Jordy Barnes will play for a state title on Friday. 4A and 5A respectively
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Excellent, we have had good luck with guys that played in Utah state championships.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
I did not see the game so this is based ONLY on a box score. Cox had 6 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists in the semis. Can anyone share more about what happened?
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Watched most of the game in person. Cox has the tools, but will need to develop. He was guarded by a very good, quick and athletic player in Owen Mackay (commit to Utah Tech). Seemed to bother him some.FeartheFro wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 1:01 pmI did not see the game so this is based ONLY on a box score. Cox had 6 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists in the semis. Can anyone share more about what happened?
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Was more concerned about 0 rebounds from a 6’8 kid.brian5562 wrote:48 points scored by his team. Just not a lot of scoring.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Cox had 26 tonight.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Can we have a genuine discussion? Utah High Schools do not produce P5 basketball talent. Occasionally there are a few. Frank Jackson, Collin Chandler, et.
Most of these kids committing to USC, or Michigan State, or whatever big name school. They rarely see the floor.
They’d be great MWC players and at our level would be apart of teams that could compete against P5 teams, But their pride forces them into a black hole of the P5 bench mob.
Most of these kids committing to USC, or Michigan State, or whatever big name school. They rarely see the floor.
They’d be great MWC players and at our level would be apart of teams that could compete against P5 teams, But their pride forces them into a black hole of the P5 bench mob.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
FIFYBullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 8:49 pmCan we have a genuine discussion? Utah High Schools do not produce P5 basketball talent. Occasionally there are a few. Sam Merrill, Jalen Moore, Mason Falslev,Frank Jackson, Collin Chandler, et.
Most of these kids committing to USC, or Michigan State, or whatever big name school. They rarely see the floor.
They’d be great MWC players and at our level would be apart of teams that could compete against P5 teams, But their pride forces them into a black hole of the P5 bench mob.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
You would be surprised how much bad advice these kids get from their AAU coaches. Case in point, Isaac Johnson.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 8:49 pmCan we have a genuine discussion? Utah High Schools do not produce P5 basketball talent. Occasionally there are a few. Frank Jackson, Collin Chandler, et.
Most of these kids committing to USC, or Michigan State, or whatever big name school. They rarely see the floor.
They’d be great MWC players and at our level would be apart of teams that could compete against P5 teams, But their pride forces them into a black hole of the P5 bench mob.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Those dudes don’t become who they became if it wasn’t for them choosing Utah State. Thank you for making my pointstewusu98 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:01 pmFIFYBullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 8:49 pmCan we have a genuine discussion? Utah High Schools do not produce P5 basketball talent. Occasionally there are a few. Sam Merrill, Jalen Moore, Mason Falslev,Frank Jackson, Collin Chandler, et.
Most of these kids committing to USC, or Michigan State, or whatever big name school. They rarely see the floor.
They’d be great MWC players and at our level would be apart of teams that could compete against P5 teams, But their pride forces them into a black hole of the P5 bench mob.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
One thing to remember is neither cox or Jordy have signed. Thinking that is more usu choice in needing to evaluate the spring options first.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Disagree!
I’ll give you Steven Ashworth.
Mason was a p5 commit!
Jalen had offers.
And well, I think we all know of Sam’s talent.
Yes Utah does not produce a ton of talent compared to other states…
But you are aware Utah has 2 P5 schools currently correct?
If you mean 5 star or McDonalds all American I agree with you but you said p5 talent.
I’ll give you Steven Ashworth.
Mason was a p5 commit!
Jalen had offers.
And well, I think we all know of Sam’s talent.
Yes Utah does not produce a ton of talent compared to other states…
But you are aware Utah has 2 P5 schools currently correct?
If you mean 5 star or McDonalds all American I agree with you but you said p5 talent.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Koby McEwen and Brock Miller also had P5 offers.stewusu98 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:19 pmDisagree!
I’ll give you Steven Ashworth.
Mason was a p5 commit!
Jalen had offers.
And well, I think we all know of Sam’s talent.
Yes Utah does not produce a ton of talent compared to other states…
But you are aware Utah has 2 P5 schools currently correct?
If you mean 5 star or McDonalds all American I agree with you but you said p5 talent.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Nope. Count on them signing.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
He averaged 21.3 as a junior.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Again, none of my argument is saying that we don’t have kids getting P5 offers.treesap32 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:21 pmKoby McEwen and Brock Miller also had P5 offers.stewusu98 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:19 pmDisagree!
I’ll give you Steven Ashworth.
Mason was a p5 commit!
Jalen had offers.
And well, I think we all know of Sam’s talent.
Yes Utah does not produce a ton of talent compared to other states…
But you are aware Utah has 2 P5 schools currently correct?
If you mean 5 star or McDonalds all American I agree with you but you said p5 talent.
Go find me a kid that graduated from a Utah High School. (Not Wasatch Academy) that ended up committing to an out of State P5 and ended up playing a lot?
The reason why Merrill, Ashworth, etc. became great players is because they went to a MWC school
First, got developed.
Had Ashworth gone to Duke, or Sam to USC, they would’ve been stuck deep on the bench and they’d be financial planners right now.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
I really think we have some great in state talent, that would do really really well at our level. Again, back to my list. Unless you’re a high 4 star/5 Star you should not even think about leaving the state.aggies22 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:09 pmYou would be surprised how much bad advice these kids get from their AAU coaches. Case in point, Isaac Johnson.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 8:49 pmCan we have a genuine discussion? Utah High Schools do not produce P5 basketball talent. Occasionally there are a few. Frank Jackson, Collin Chandler, et.
Most of these kids committing to USC, or Michigan State, or whatever big name school. They rarely see the floor.
They’d be great MWC players and at our level would be apart of teams that could compete against P5 teams, But their pride forces them into a black hole of the P5 bench mob.
The kid going to USC from Corner canyon will likely never see the floor, his coach that recruited him Will get fired and he will end up at SLCC or Utah Tech.
When he could go to Utah state, be an impact player in a program that cares about actually developing him, and make a run at a pro career either in the NBA or Overseas.
AAU coaches just want to be able to tell kids “hey I place kids at P5 schools, if you come play for my program and lay me thousands of dollars to play 200 games over a 3 month summer you could be too!”
Again, I’m daring someone to go find an Utah HS grad, that left Utah for a P5 and actually played serious minutes.
The list is like Frank Jackson, and that’s basically it
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Re: Utah HS recruits
I think where I got confused is your definition of P5 talent. You later said 4 or 5 star recruits when talking to AGGIE22.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:39 pmAgain, none of my argument is saying that we don’t have kids getting P5 offers.treesap32 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:21 pmKoby McEwen and Brock Miller also had P5 offers.stewusu98 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:19 pmDisagree!
I’ll give you Steven Ashworth.
Mason was a p5 commit!
Jalen had offers.
And well, I think we all know of Sam’s talent.
Yes Utah does not produce a ton of talent compared to other states…
But you are aware Utah has 2 P5 schools currently correct?
If you mean 5 star or McDonalds all American I agree with you but you said p5 talent.
Go find me a kid that graduated from a Utah High School. (Not Wasatch Academy) that ended up committing to an out of State P5 and ended up playing a lot?
The reason why Merrill, Ashworth, etc. became great players is because they went to a MWC school
First, got developed.
Had Ashworth gone to Duke, or Sam to USC, they would’ve been stuck deep on the bench and they’d be financial planners right now.
In that case I agree with you we don’t get a ton of successful 4 or 5 star talent. Utah does however produce good p5 talent.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Our college programs here can develop kids into guys that would become P5 level players. Sam Merrill.stewusu98 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:57 pmI think where I got confused is your definition of P5 talent. You later said 4 or 5 star recruits when talking to AGGIE22.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:39 pmAgain, none of my argument is saying that we don’t have kids getting P5 offers.treesap32 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:21 pmKoby McEwen and Brock Miller also had P5 offers.stewusu98 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:19 pmDisagree!
I’ll give you Steven Ashworth.
Mason was a p5 commit!
Jalen had offers.
And well, I think we all know of Sam’s talent.
Yes Utah does not produce a ton of talent compared to other states…
But you are aware Utah has 2 P5 schools currently correct?
If you mean 5 star or McDonalds all American I agree with you but you said p5 talent.
Go find me a kid that graduated from a Utah High School. (Not Wasatch Academy) that ended up committing to an out of State P5 and ended up playing a lot?
The reason why Merrill, Ashworth, etc. became great players is because they went to a MWC school
First, got developed.
Had Ashworth gone to Duke, or Sam to USC, they would’ve been stuck deep on the bench and they’d be financial planners right now.
In that case I agree with you we don’t get a ton of successful 4 or 5 star talent. Utah does however produce good p5 talent.
But there isn’t hardly any kids that come from Utah that should be going P5 right out of high school.
I’m Sure @aggies22 would have a better list of kids that left Utah for P5 schools (or even u of u) for that matter and ended up never playing serious minutes. 247 is a joke for Utah basketball.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Brayden Bell!Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:49 pmI really think we have some great in state talent, that would do really really well at our level. Again, back to my list. Unless you’re a high 4 star/5 Star you should not even think about leaving the state.aggies22 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:09 pmYou would be surprised how much bad advice these kids get from their AAU coaches. Case in point, Isaac Johnson.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 8:49 pmCan we have a genuine discussion? Utah High Schools do not produce P5 basketball talent. Occasionally there are a few. Frank Jackson, Collin Chandler, et.
Most of these kids committing to USC, or Michigan State, or whatever big name school. They rarely see the floor.
They’d be great MWC players and at our level would be apart of teams that could compete against P5 teams, But their pride forces them into a black hole of the P5 bench mob.
The kid going to USC from Corner canyon will likely never see the floor, his coach that recruited him Will get fired and he will end up at SLCC or Utah Tech.
When he could go to Utah state, be an impact player in a program that cares about actually developing him, and make a run at a pro career either in the NBA or Overseas.
AAU coaches just want to be able to tell kids “hey I place kids at P5 schools, if you come play for my program and lay me thousands of dollars to play 200 games over a 3 month summer you could be too!”
Again, I’m daring someone to go find an Utah HS grad, that left Utah for a P5 and actually played serious minutes.
The list is like Frank Jackson, and that’s basically it
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Re: Utah HS recruits
There is one particular AAU coach here in the state that rolls in this EXACT manner.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:49 pmI really think we have some great in state talent, that would do really really well at our level. Again, back to my list. Unless you’re a high 4 star/5 Star you should not even think about leaving the state.aggies22 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:09 pmYou would be surprised how much bad advice these kids get from their AAU coaches. Case in point, Isaac Johnson.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 8:49 pmCan we have a genuine discussion? Utah High Schools do not produce P5 basketball talent. Occasionally there are a few. Frank Jackson, Collin Chandler, et.
Most of these kids committing to USC, or Michigan State, or whatever big name school. They rarely see the floor.
They’d be great MWC players and at our level would be apart of teams that could compete against P5 teams, But their pride forces them into a black hole of the P5 bench mob.
The kid going to USC from Corner canyon will likely never see the floor, his coach that recruited him Will get fired and he will end up at SLCC or Utah Tech.
When he could go to Utah state, be an impact player in a program that cares about actually developing him, and make a run at a pro career either in the NBA or Overseas.
AAU coaches just want to be able to tell kids “hey I place kids at P5 schools, if you come play for my program and lay me thousands of dollars to play 200 games over a 3 month summer you could be too!”
Again, I’m daring someone to go find an Utah HS grad, that left Utah for a P5 and actually played serious minutes.
The list is like Frank Jackson, and that’s basically it
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Re: Utah HS recruits
The AAU program and coaching dynamic is interesting in Utah for sure. I'm just starting to find this out as my youngest is starting to play in the league. Very eye opening!aggies22 wrote: ↑February 29th, 2024, 9:37 amThere is one particular AAU coach here in the state that rolls in this EXACT manner.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:49 pmI really think we have some great in state talent, that would do really really well at our level. Again, back to my list. Unless you’re a high 4 star/5 Star you should not even think about leaving the state.aggies22 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:09 pmYou would be surprised how much bad advice these kids get from their AAU coaches. Case in point, Isaac Johnson.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 8:49 pmCan we have a genuine discussion? Utah High Schools do not produce P5 basketball talent. Occasionally there are a few. Frank Jackson, Collin Chandler, et.
Most of these kids committing to USC, or Michigan State, or whatever big name school. They rarely see the floor.
They’d be great MWC players and at our level would be apart of teams that could compete against P5 teams, But their pride forces them into a black hole of the P5 bench mob.
The kid going to USC from Corner canyon will likely never see the floor, his coach that recruited him Will get fired and he will end up at SLCC or Utah Tech.
When he could go to Utah state, be an impact player in a program that cares about actually developing him, and make a run at a pro career either in the NBA or Overseas.
AAU coaches just want to be able to tell kids “hey I place kids at P5 schools, if you come play for my program and lay me thousands of dollars to play 200 games over a 3 month summer you could be too!”
Again, I’m daring someone to go find an Utah HS grad, that left Utah for a P5 and actually played serious minutes.
The list is like Frank Jackson, and that’s basically it
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Cox averaged 17.5 in 14 games after starting the season at Compass Prep in Arizona.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
You mean Utah Propsects? Which hasn’t sent a Kid encouraged a kid to Utah state unless they had no other offers?aggies22 wrote: ↑February 29th, 2024, 9:37 amThere is one particular AAU coach here in the state that rolls in this EXACT manner.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:49 pmI really think we have some great in state talent, that would do really really well at our level. Again, back to my list. Unless you’re a high 4 star/5 Star you should not even think about leaving the state.aggies22 wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 9:09 pmYou would be surprised how much bad advice these kids get from their AAU coaches. Case in point, Isaac Johnson.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑February 28th, 2024, 8:49 pmCan we have a genuine discussion? Utah High Schools do not produce P5 basketball talent. Occasionally there are a few. Frank Jackson, Collin Chandler, et.
Most of these kids committing to USC, or Michigan State, or whatever big name school. They rarely see the floor.
They’d be great MWC players and at our level would be apart of teams that could compete against P5 teams, But their pride forces them into a black hole of the P5 bench mob.
The kid going to USC from Corner canyon will likely never see the floor, his coach that recruited him Will get fired and he will end up at SLCC or Utah Tech.
When he could go to Utah state, be an impact player in a program that cares about actually developing him, and make a run at a pro career either in the NBA or Overseas.
AAU coaches just want to be able to tell kids “hey I place kids at P5 schools, if you come play for my program and lay me thousands of dollars to play 200 games over a 3 month summer you could be too!”
Again, I’m daring someone to go find an Utah HS grad, that left Utah for a P5 and actually played serious minutes.
The list is like Frank Jackson, and that’s basically it
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Utah may not produce a bunch of high level P5 guys all the time but basketball in the state is really good/solid. Recruiting Utah kids to USU basketball should always be a high priority. You don't need to fill a starting 5 from the state but you should always have 2-3 solid players on the roster. Aggie basketball has been built around getting some of the best talent in the state to play in Logan.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
This! A lot of P5 could care less about basketball. Empty arenas, little student support.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
CJ Wilcox from Pleasant View played a ton for Washington and made the NBA, but he was a top-100 guy. Kyle Dranginis from Sky View played a lot of minutes on some good Gonzaga teams. Jake Lindsey (son of Dennis Lindsey) played rotation minutes for Baylor. Jeff Pollard played rotation minutes for Washington State. Brendan Bailey played rotation minutes at Marquette. But those were all 8+ years ago.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
Jeff Pollard was a multi year starter at Washington State. Didn't have crazy stats but played more than rotational minutes.aggieguy13 wrote: ↑February 29th, 2024, 10:11 amCJ Wilcox from Pleasant View played a ton for Washington and made the NBA, but he was a top-100 guy. Kyle Dranginis from Sky View played a lot of minutes on some good Gonzaga teams. Jake Lindsey (son of Dennis Lindsey) played rotation minutes for Baylor. Jeff Pollard played rotation minutes for Washington State. Brendan Bailey played rotation minutes at Marquette. But those were all 8+ years ago.
Looking back it is pretty insane how loaded that Bountiful team was.
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Re: Utah HS recruits
they were a handfull to play!!! logan played them when sam was jr early in the season. they had pollard, sam, seljaas, and probably a couple of others. Sky view ended up beating them in the semi's with Jalen's shot at the buzzer.LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑February 29th, 2024, 10:15 amJeff Pollard was a multi year starter at Washington State. Didn't have crazy stats but played more than rotational minutes.aggieguy13 wrote: ↑February 29th, 2024, 10:11 amCJ Wilcox from Pleasant View played a ton for Washington and made the NBA, but he was a top-100 guy. Kyle Dranginis from Sky View played a lot of minutes on some good Gonzaga teams. Jake Lindsey (son of Dennis Lindsey) played rotation minutes for Baylor. Jeff Pollard played rotation minutes for Washington State. Brendan Bailey played rotation minutes at Marquette. But those were all 8+ years ago.
Looking back it is pretty insane how loaded that Bountiful team was.