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I know Miles was discussed before hiring Odom and Sprinkle, and I think there was interest but not sure if there was an interview. Maybe spurned twice will dissuade him of trying again, but one thing for certain, being a midwestern guy that if DeVries leaves Drake, Miles will be all over that one. 22 probably knows the mutual interest the first two times around.
Just want to add, IMO he may not be the ceiling of some names mentioned, but above the floor of others.
Just want to add, IMO he may not be the ceiling of some names mentioned, but above the floor of others.
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Not sure it’s fair to say what Tim Miles’ ceiling is.
He took a 7 win CSU team year 1, and then got to the NCAA Tournament.
He could be here for 10 years and keep thw momentum we currently have.
The worst thing we could do right now is take another high risk swing, flop, and then our momentum is halted
He took a 7 win CSU team year 1, and then got to the NCAA Tournament.
He could be here for 10 years and keep thw momentum we currently have.
The worst thing we could do right now is take another high risk swing, flop, and then our momentum is halted
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Miles seems to coach a brand of basketball I can get behind. Good fundamentals, level-headed, good strategy. The question is if he can recruit at a high enough level to keep us in the top third of the MWC. He also wasn’t able to keep Omari whatever his name was. Great Osobor and Brown weren’t going to leave MSU until sprinkle left. Obviously there is some connection between coach and player. Does miles have that in the transfer portal era?
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Omari Moore declared for the draft and got a 2 way deal with the raptors I believe, hard to compete with the NBAflying_scotsman2.0 wrote:Miles seems to coach a brand of basketball I can get behind. Good fundamentals, level-headed, good strategy. The question is if he can recruit at a high enough level to keep us in the top third of the MWC. He also wasn’t able to keep Omari whatever his name was. Great Osobor and Brown weren’t going to leave MSU until sprinkle left. Obviously there is some connection between coach and player. Does miles have that in the transfer portal era?
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I really just want us to hire a guy from around here that has played in the spectrum before and knows of our fanbase. Let’s go get us a guy from Utah or a neighboring state that says he wants to be here for years. Let’s go get somebody that also wants their name on our court. Somebody that loves what Stew did and tries to replicate it. Let’s get somebody that thinks he’s the luckiest guy in the world to be coaching in front of our crowd.
Have we ever tried that before?
Have we ever tried that before?
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Yes.
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The last 6 years have been awesome. Changing our hiring practices to anything other than what we have been doing would be insane.
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Sounds like Danny SprinkleEngineeringAggie wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 7:40 pmI really just want us to hire a guy from around here that has played in the spectrum before and knows of our fanbase. Let’s go get us a guy from Utah or a neighboring state that says he wants to be here for years. Let’s go get somebody that also wants their name on our court. Somebody that loves what Stew did and tries to replicate it. Let’s get somebody that thinks he’s the luckiest guy in the world to be coaching in front of our crowd.
Have we ever tried that before?
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Yep nothing should change. If sprinkle does leave, go get another qualified winner at a Lower level. It has worked 3 times in a row. If that guy wins and leaves, go get another one. We shouldn't settle and live in fear just because successful coaches leaveLarryTheAggie wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 8:08 pmThe last 6 years have been awesome. Changing our hiring practices to anything other than what we have been doing would be insane.
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Mb, guess I should’ve looked that up before I spewed nonsense all over a message board.Rawbirds wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 7:05 pmOmari Moore declared for the draft and got a 2 way deal with the raptors I believe, hard to compete with the NBAflying_scotsman2.0 wrote:Miles seems to coach a brand of basketball I can get behind. Good fundamentals, level-headed, good strategy. The question is if he can recruit at a high enough level to keep us in the top third of the MWC. He also wasn’t able to keep Omari whatever his name was. Great Osobor and Brown weren’t going to leave MSU until sprinkle left. Obviously there is some connection between coach and player. Does miles have that in the transfer portal era?
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Oh yeah… I forgot that he is all of these things and he’s still leaving. Let’s just forget about ever hiring a coach that we think will be here a long time.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 8:11 pmSounds like Danny SprinkleEngineeringAggie wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 7:40 pmI really just want us to hire a guy from around here that has played in the spectrum before and knows of our fanbase. Let’s go get us a guy from Utah or a neighboring state that says he wants to be here for years. Let’s go get somebody that also wants their name on our court. Somebody that loves what Stew did and tries to replicate it. Let’s get somebody that thinks he’s the luckiest guy in the world to be coaching in front of our crowd.
Have we ever tried that before?
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Exactly. I'd rather have a coach each year if it meant we performed better. I love the idea of stability, and a long-term coach. It would be ideal. But if the choice is between (1) a successful up-and-coming coach, and (2) a stable, proven coach who will always perform well but never be excellent (see Leon Rice), I'll take the former.LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 8:08 pmThe last 6 years have been awesome. Changing our hiring practices to anything other than what we have been doing would be insane.
I would love having the same coach for a decade. But the system has worked out well for 3 different coaching regimes over 6 years. Stick with this system. Given the type of money we're going to be putting up, if the program collapses around a coach, a new dynamic coach can revive it practically overnight (a la Danny Sprinkle). We will always have the community and fan support. Plus, assuming we were to become a constant stepping stone, we're going to be drowning in buyout cash.
We've been incredibly successful the past 6 years. More than ever before. Stick with what we're doing now.
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And he also has a 324-332 overall record with just 2 NCAA tournament appearances in 18 years as a Division I coach. Put me down as a hard hell no on Tim Miles.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 6:42 pmNot sure it’s fair to say what Tim Miles’ ceiling is.
He took a 7 win CSU team year 1, and then got to the NCAA Tournament.
He could be here for 10 years and keep thw momentum we currently have.
The worst thing we could do right now is take another high risk swing, flop, and then our momentum is halted
He wanted the job BADLY last time around, and it's obvious why. He caught lightning in a bottle in 2022-23 then wanted to bolt because that year was more the rule than the exception during an incredibly mediocre career.
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I know reading so difficult for you, but the context has been shared prior. He took over dumpster fire of situations. Last year he lost a guy to the pro level. (Remember the conference player of the year?)shoresy wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 9:32 pmAnd he also has a 324-332 overall record with just 2 NCAA tournament appearances in 18 years as a Division I coach. Put me down as a hard hell no on Tim Miles.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 6:42 pmNot sure it’s fair to say what Tim Miles’ ceiling is.
He took a 7 win CSU team year 1, and then got to the NCAA Tournament.
He could be here for 10 years and keep thw momentum we currently have.
The worst thing we could do right now is take another high risk swing, flop, and then our momentum is halted
He wanted the job BADLY last time around, and it's obvious why. He caught lightning in a bottle in 2022-23 then wanted to bolt because that year was more the rule than the exception during an incredibly mediocre career.
At SJSu he took over for a 5 win team. He then won 8, and then 21. At San Jose State. San Jose State has had 2 other 20 win seasons; one was before the Korean War, and the other was when Jimmy Carter was the president.
He’s a better coach than you’re giving him credit for.
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USU has a type (successful head coach at a low major school). There are only a handful of candidates that are USU’s type.
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Whoa, relax. I didn't throw a personal attack at you, we just have differing opinions on this.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 9:58 pmI know reading so difficult for you, but the context has been shared prior. He took over dumpster fire of situations. Last year he lost a guy to the pro level. (Remember the conference player of the year?)shoresy wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 9:32 pmAnd he also has a 324-332 overall record with just 2 NCAA tournament appearances in 18 years as a Division I coach. Put me down as a hard hell no on Tim Miles.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 6:42 pmNot sure it’s fair to say what Tim Miles’ ceiling is.
He took a 7 win CSU team year 1, and then got to the NCAA Tournament.
He could be here for 10 years and keep thw momentum we currently have.
The worst thing we could do right now is take another high risk swing, flop, and then our momentum is halted
He wanted the job BADLY last time around, and it's obvious why. He caught lightning in a bottle in 2022-23 then wanted to bolt because that year was more the rule than the exception during an incredibly mediocre career.
At SJSu he took over for a 5 win team. He then won 8, and then 21. At San Jose State. San Jose State has had 2 other 20 win seasons; one was before the Korean War, and the other was when Jimmy Carter was the president.
He’s a better coach than you’re giving him credit for.
Yes, he had a good year at San Jose State. Then what did he do to build on that success?
He's had four 20+ win seasons in 18 years at the DI level. Yes, he's taken over some tough situations and turned them into serviceable/mediocre teams. But that's not Utah State. He's never proven that he can actually win at a high level, and he's had 18 seasons to try to do so. He's not a bad coach, but he's not a great one either.
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I just think we’re in for a rude awakening if we truly believe we can recreate a year like this year. I don’t think it’s realist to think that if we bring in a successful coach from a lower tiered school that they will come in and have the same success that Danny did. That’s why Danny is a candidate for national COTY, it’s unheard of what he’s done. The new coach will be in the exact same position Danny was in, empty cupboards, something that Odom and Smith didn’t face.
We’ve done great with our hires and our AD’s deserve a ton of credit for it but I don’t think our model is foolproof.
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I'm in the same boat. Not high on Miles. Besides his overall w/l record and general lack of success, the next coach will need a crop of players he can bring along. Don't know if you've seen SJSU play this year, but they have 1.5 players I'd be interested in poaching.shoresy wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 10:20 pmWhoa, relax. I didn't throw a personal attack at you, we just have differing opinions on this.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 9:58 pmI know reading so difficult for you, but the context has been shared prior. He took over dumpster fire of situations. Last year he lost a guy to the pro level. (Remember the conference player of the year?)shoresy wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 9:32 pmAnd he also has a 324-332 overall record with just 2 NCAA tournament appearances in 18 years as a Division I coach. Put me down as a hard hell no on Tim Miles.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 6:42 pmNot sure it’s fair to say what Tim Miles’ ceiling is.
He took a 7 win CSU team year 1, and then got to the NCAA Tournament.
He could be here for 10 years and keep thw momentum we currently have.
The worst thing we could do right now is take another high risk swing, flop, and then our momentum is halted
He wanted the job BADLY last time around, and it's obvious why. He caught lightning in a bottle in 2022-23 then wanted to bolt because that year was more the rule than the exception during an incredibly mediocre career.
At SJSu he took over for a 5 win team. He then won 8, and then 21. At San Jose State. San Jose State has had 2 other 20 win seasons; one was before the Korean War, and the other was when Jimmy Carter was the president.
He’s a better coach than you’re giving him credit for.
Yes, he had a good year at San Jose State. Then what did he do to build on that success?
He's had four 20+ win seasons in 18 years at the DI level. Yes, he's taken over some tough situations and turned them into serviceable/mediocre teams. But that's not Utah State. He's never proven that he can actually win at a high level, and he's had 18 seasons to try to do so. He's not a bad coach, but he's not a great one either.
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I don’t think it’s reason enough to sign Miles, but I would take Amey and Cardenas in a heartbeat.Madmartigan wrote:I'm in the same boat. Not high on Miles. Besides his overall w/l record and general lack of success, the next coach will need a crop of players he can bring along. Don't know if you've seen SJSU play this year, but they have 1.5 players I'd be interested in poaching.shoresy wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 10:20 pmWhoa, relax. I didn't throw a personal attack at you, we just have differing opinions on this.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 9:58 pmI know reading so difficult for you, but the context has been shared prior. He took over dumpster fire of situations. Last year he lost a guy to the pro level. (Remember the conference player of the year?)shoresy wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 9:32 pmAnd he also has a 324-332 overall record with just 2 NCAA tournament appearances in 18 years as a Division I coach. Put me down as a hard hell no on Tim Miles.Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑March 13th, 2024, 6:42 pmNot sure it’s fair to say what Tim Miles’ ceiling is.
He took a 7 win CSU team year 1, and then got to the NCAA Tournament.
He could be here for 10 years and keep thw momentum we currently have.
The worst thing we could do right now is take another high risk swing, flop, and then our momentum is halted
He wanted the job BADLY last time around, and it's obvious why. He caught lightning in a bottle in 2022-23 then wanted to bolt because that year was more the rule than the exception during an incredibly mediocre career.
At SJSu he took over for a 5 win team. He then won 8, and then 21. At San Jose State. San Jose State has had 2 other 20 win seasons; one was before the Korean War, and the other was when Jimmy Carter was the president.
He’s a better coach than you’re giving him credit for.
Yes, he had a good year at San Jose State. Then what did he do to build on that success?
He's had four 20+ win seasons in 18 years at the DI level. Yes, he's taken over some tough situations and turned them into serviceable/mediocre teams. But that's not Utah State. He's never proven that he can actually win at a high level, and he's had 18 seasons to try to do so. He's not a bad coach, but he's not a great one either.
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I would also point out that Smith and Odom were found using a hiring firm. Jerry Bovee found Sprinkle all by himself. Who knows what Sabau will want to do?
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hopefully find us a GOOD coach WHO WANT'S TO BE HERE and STAY HERE! That would be cool.deltaaggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 11:56 amI would also point out that Smith and Odom were found using a hiring firm. Jerry Bovee found Sprinkle all by himself. Who knows what Sabau will want to do?
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Bump.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 8:15 pmIn light of hearing Sprinkle is gone, I decided to put together a list with a more in-depth look at the potential candidates. And please forgive me for this in light of championship week, but I couldn't help myself. I'll be shocked if our next head coach isn't on this list. My main point is, if Sprinkle is gone the future is bright. There's a lot of exciting names on this list.
In-House
*Andy Hill, USU- Current associate head coach Andy Hill has to be a strong candidate for the job. He does a fair amount of the actual coaching right now and has a lot of good recruiting connections. He's very familiar with out West due to being a long time Utah assistant. He is how we got Ian Martinez here. I believe he's about 46 years old.
Up and Coming Head Coaches
*Darian Devries, Drake - This guy has to be near the top of the list. All he's done in 6 years at Drake is win. He just made his 3rd NCAA tournament in 4 years and his son is their star player. He's a JR that averaged 22 ppg. They beat Nevada by 19 earlier this season However, he's a very hot name out there and I'd be shocked if USU could actually land him. You have to make the call though. He's 47 years old.
*David Riley, Eastern Washington - He's only 35 years old and has been very impressive at Eastern Washington in 3 years. He was the Big Sky coach of the year last year over Danny Sprinkle. However, his team has flamed out and lost early in the Big Sky Tournament the past two years as the 1 seed.
*Chris Gerlufsen, San Francisco - He's only been at San Francisco for two years, but the team was good this year (as we saw first hand) and was quite improved over last year. He was the associate head coach in 2022 when they were a 10 seed in the NCAA tournament. He's been an assistant at various places the past 20 years before getting the head job at San Francisco. He's 47 years old.
*Bucky McMillan, Samford - This is a fascinating name. He coached a HS dynasty bball team in Alabama and was hired directly into Samford. He is in his 4th year where he's taken them from #321 Kenpom to #80. He just led his team to a 29-5 record and NCAA tournament appearance. He is coaching Rylan Jones. He is 40 years old.
*Todd Simon, Bowling Green - He was the 2021 Big Sky coach of the year at SUU and then jumped to Bowling Green for a pay increase. His teams at Bowling Green have been mediocre, but at SUU he was considered a hot young coach. He also spent 1/2 season as UNLV's interim head coach in 2016. SUU was Kenpom ranked #342 when he took over and he got them up to #111. I've heard he wants to get back out West. He's 43 years old.
*Eric Henderson, South Dakota st. - Has been at South Dakota st. the past 5 years and has won the league 4 times. His win % is .693. He doesn't have much experience outside of the Dakotas though and hasn't left the Midwest. He's 46 years old.
*Chris Victor, Seattle- He was the 2022 WAC coach of the year, but Seattle's record has gotten worse each of the 2 seasons he's been there after his first year. He is considered a dynamic young coach. He's approximately 40 years old.
*Joe Pastnerack, UC Santa Barbara - He was a strong candidate for the job last year with UCSB winning the Big West 2 of the past 3 years. All he has done is win in the 7 seasons he's been there. However, this year his term inexplicably has taken a step back and he's having his worst season in 7 years there. Maybe some monotony has set in for him?
*Russell Turner, UC Irvine - He has been at UC Irvine for the past 14 years and has win % of .62. He's won the Big West 7 of the 14 seasons and had a great team this year. He's 53 years old.
Intriguing Veteran Coach Names
*Will Wade, Mcneese st. - Will is most known for being fired from LSU for recruiting violations (LSU was paying recruits). He is back in the game after a few years away and has Mcneese st. at 28-3 on the year. He was a good coach at LSU and had success at VCU before that. He was considered one of the hot young names in coaching and is a dynamic guy. At some point he's going to get another high level job. He's still only 41 years old.
*Chris Holtmann, Ohio State. - He was just fired at Ohio State after 6 years (he made the NCAA tournament 4 of 6 years) but never went far. He was the Big 10 coach of the year in 2018 and had great success at Butler prior to the that. I have to think he's a strong candidate with our AD having come from Ohio st. and likely knew him well. He's 52 years old.
*Tim Miles, San Jose st. - Tim was actually a candidate for the job last year. He was Craig Smith's mentor and had a ton of success at Colorado st. He was fired at Nebraska after that and now has done a decent job at SJSU. I'm not sure any coach can win at SJSU with their lack of fan support and he put out a pretty good team last year. I actually like this idea and he's a coach who would seemingly stay in the job for a long time if successful. He's 58 years old.
*Craig Smith, Utah - Craig Smith has yet to the make the NCAA tournament in 3 years at Utah and there is a strong movement to want to fire him as the admin is not happy with the lifeless state of the program. He is perceived internally to be a poor recruiter and not loved by the players. He likely gets another year as they can't afford his buyout, but if he is fired it's an interesting name. He's 52 years old.
Intriguing Assistant Coaches (I know we're probably past the point of hiring an assistant, but it's still some interesting names to look at.)
*Barrett Peery, UNLV - Peery is an interesting name. He is from Utah and absolutely dominated as a coach College of Southern Idaho JC and Indian Hills JC. He got the job at Portland State where he did okay, but better than most at Portland State. He left to be the associate head coach at Texas Tech and is now at UNLV this year. He's 52 years old.
*Chris Burgess, Utah - He was a very highly regarded assistant coach locally, but is sputtering a bit with Utah faltering. He's said to be an incredible recruiter and I do know there's those within the Utah program who like him a lot that want to fire Smith and hire Burgess. He's 43 years old.
What do you guys think, what names really stick out? For my money, I'm really intrigued by Will Wade.
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I’ll call my shot — if we win next week it’ll be Andy Hill. If we don’t, David Riley, come on down!Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 5:58 pmBump.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 8:15 pmIn light of hearing Sprinkle is gone, I decided to put together a list with a more in-depth look at the potential candidates. And please forgive me for this in light of championship week, but I couldn't help myself. I'll be shocked if our next head coach isn't on this list. My main point is, if Sprinkle is gone the future is bright. There's a lot of exciting names on this list.
In-House
*Andy Hill, USU- Current associate head coach Andy Hill has to be a strong candidate for the job. He does a fair amount of the actual coaching right now and has a lot of good recruiting connections. He's very familiar with out West due to being a long time Utah assistant. He is how we got Ian Martinez here. I believe he's about 46 years old.
Up and Coming Head Coaches
*Darian Devries, Drake - This guy has to be near the top of the list. All he's done in 6 years at Drake is win. He just made his 3rd NCAA tournament in 4 years and his son is their star player. He's a JR that averaged 22 ppg. They beat Nevada by 19 earlier this season However, he's a very hot name out there and I'd be shocked if USU could actually land him. You have to make the call though. He's 47 years old.
*David Riley, Eastern Washington - He's only 35 years old and has been very impressive at Eastern Washington in 3 years. He was the Big Sky coach of the year last year over Danny Sprinkle. However, his team has flamed out and lost early in the Big Sky Tournament the past two years as the 1 seed.
*Chris Gerlufsen, San Francisco - He's only been at San Francisco for two years, but the team was good this year (as we saw first hand) and was quite improved over last year. He was the associate head coach in 2022 when they were a 10 seed in the NCAA tournament. He's been an assistant at various places the past 20 years before getting the head job at San Francisco. He's 47 years old.
*Bucky McMillan, Samford - This is a fascinating name. He coached a HS dynasty bball team in Alabama and was hired directly into Samford. He is in his 4th year where he's taken them from #321 Kenpom to #80. He just led his team to a 29-5 record and NCAA tournament appearance. He is coaching Rylan Jones. He is 40 years old.
*Todd Simon, Bowling Green - He was the 2021 Big Sky coach of the year at SUU and then jumped to Bowling Green for a pay increase. His teams at Bowling Green have been mediocre, but at SUU he was considered a hot young coach. He also spent 1/2 season as UNLV's interim head coach in 2016. SUU was Kenpom ranked #342 when he took over and he got them up to #111. I've heard he wants to get back out West. He's 43 years old.
*Eric Henderson, South Dakota st. - Has been at South Dakota st. the past 5 years and has won the league 4 times. His win % is .693. He doesn't have much experience outside of the Dakotas though and hasn't left the Midwest. He's 46 years old.
*Chris Victor, Seattle- He was the 2022 WAC coach of the year, but Seattle's record has gotten worse each of the 2 seasons he's been there after his first year. He is considered a dynamic young coach. He's approximately 40 years old.
*Joe Pastnerack, UC Santa Barbara - He was a strong candidate for the job last year with UCSB winning the Big West 2 of the past 3 years. All he has done is win in the 7 seasons he's been there. However, this year his term inexplicably has taken a step back and he's having his worst season in 7 years there. Maybe some monotony has set in for him?
*Russell Turner, UC Irvine - He has been at UC Irvine for the past 14 years and has win % of .62. He's won the Big West 7 of the 14 seasons and had a great team this year. He's 53 years old.
Intriguing Veteran Coach Names
*Will Wade, Mcneese st. - Will is most known for being fired from LSU for recruiting violations (LSU was paying recruits). He is back in the game after a few years away and has Mcneese st. at 28-3 on the year. He was a good coach at LSU and had success at VCU before that. He was considered one of the hot young names in coaching and is a dynamic guy. At some point he's going to get another high level job. He's still only 41 years old.
*Chris Holtmann, Ohio State. - He was just fired at Ohio State after 6 years (he made the NCAA tournament 4 of 6 years) but never went far. He was the Big 10 coach of the year in 2018 and had great success at Butler prior to the that. I have to think he's a strong candidate with our AD having come from Ohio st. and likely knew him well. He's 52 years old.
*Tim Miles, San Jose st. - Tim was actually a candidate for the job last year. He was Craig Smith's mentor and had a ton of success at Colorado st. He was fired at Nebraska after that and now has done a decent job at SJSU. I'm not sure any coach can win at SJSU with their lack of fan support and he put out a pretty good team last year. I actually like this idea and he's a coach who would seemingly stay in the job for a long time if successful. He's 58 years old.
*Craig Smith, Utah - Craig Smith has yet to the make the NCAA tournament in 3 years at Utah and there is a strong movement to want to fire him as the admin is not happy with the lifeless state of the program. He is perceived internally to be a poor recruiter and not loved by the players. He likely gets another year as they can't afford his buyout, but if he is fired it's an interesting name. He's 52 years old.
Intriguing Assistant Coaches (I know we're probably past the point of hiring an assistant, but it's still some interesting names to look at.)
*Barrett Peery, UNLV - Peery is an interesting name. He is from Utah and absolutely dominated as a coach College of Southern Idaho JC and Indian Hills JC. He got the job at Portland State where he did okay, but better than most at Portland State. He left to be the associate head coach at Texas Tech and is now at UNLV this year. He's 52 years old.
*Chris Burgess, Utah - He was a very highly regarded assistant coach locally, but is sputtering a bit with Utah faltering. He's said to be an incredible recruiter and I do know there's those within the Utah program who like him a lot that want to fire Smith and hire Burgess. He's 43 years old.
What do you guys think, what names really stick out? For my money, I'm really intrigued by Will Wade.
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Those two should be in the top 5. Riley will be gone if we don’t move fast.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 6:07 pmI’ll call my shot — if we win next week it’ll be Andy Hill. If we don’t, David Riley, come on down!Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 5:58 pmBump.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 8:15 pmIn light of hearing Sprinkle is gone, I decided to put together a list with a more in-depth look at the potential candidates. And please forgive me for this in light of championship week, but I couldn't help myself. I'll be shocked if our next head coach isn't on this list. My main point is, if Sprinkle is gone the future is bright. There's a lot of exciting names on this list.
In-House
*Andy Hill, USU- Current associate head coach Andy Hill has to be a strong candidate for the job. He does a fair amount of the actual coaching right now and has a lot of good recruiting connections. He's very familiar with out West due to being a long time Utah assistant. He is how we got Ian Martinez here. I believe he's about 46 years old.
Up and Coming Head Coaches
*Darian Devries, Drake - This guy has to be near the top of the list. All he's done in 6 years at Drake is win. He just made his 3rd NCAA tournament in 4 years and his son is their star player. He's a JR that averaged 22 ppg. They beat Nevada by 19 earlier this season However, he's a very hot name out there and I'd be shocked if USU could actually land him. You have to make the call though. He's 47 years old.
*David Riley, Eastern Washington - He's only 35 years old and has been very impressive at Eastern Washington in 3 years. He was the Big Sky coach of the year last year over Danny Sprinkle. However, his team has flamed out and lost early in the Big Sky Tournament the past two years as the 1 seed.
*Chris Gerlufsen, San Francisco - He's only been at San Francisco for two years, but the team was good this year (as we saw first hand) and was quite improved over last year. He was the associate head coach in 2022 when they were a 10 seed in the NCAA tournament. He's been an assistant at various places the past 20 years before getting the head job at San Francisco. He's 47 years old.
*Bucky McMillan, Samford - This is a fascinating name. He coached a HS dynasty bball team in Alabama and was hired directly into Samford. He is in his 4th year where he's taken them from #321 Kenpom to #80. He just led his team to a 29-5 record and NCAA tournament appearance. He is coaching Rylan Jones. He is 40 years old.
*Todd Simon, Bowling Green - He was the 2021 Big Sky coach of the year at SUU and then jumped to Bowling Green for a pay increase. His teams at Bowling Green have been mediocre, but at SUU he was considered a hot young coach. He also spent 1/2 season as UNLV's interim head coach in 2016. SUU was Kenpom ranked #342 when he took over and he got them up to #111. I've heard he wants to get back out West. He's 43 years old.
*Eric Henderson, South Dakota st. - Has been at South Dakota st. the past 5 years and has won the league 4 times. His win % is .693. He doesn't have much experience outside of the Dakotas though and hasn't left the Midwest. He's 46 years old.
*Chris Victor, Seattle- He was the 2022 WAC coach of the year, but Seattle's record has gotten worse each of the 2 seasons he's been there after his first year. He is considered a dynamic young coach. He's approximately 40 years old.
*Joe Pastnerack, UC Santa Barbara - He was a strong candidate for the job last year with UCSB winning the Big West 2 of the past 3 years. All he has done is win in the 7 seasons he's been there. However, this year his term inexplicably has taken a step back and he's having his worst season in 7 years there. Maybe some monotony has set in for him?
*Russell Turner, UC Irvine - He has been at UC Irvine for the past 14 years and has win % of .62. He's won the Big West 7 of the 14 seasons and had a great team this year. He's 53 years old.
Intriguing Veteran Coach Names
*Will Wade, Mcneese st. - Will is most known for being fired from LSU for recruiting violations (LSU was paying recruits). He is back in the game after a few years away and has Mcneese st. at 28-3 on the year. He was a good coach at LSU and had success at VCU before that. He was considered one of the hot young names in coaching and is a dynamic guy. At some point he's going to get another high level job. He's still only 41 years old.
*Chris Holtmann, Ohio State. - He was just fired at Ohio State after 6 years (he made the NCAA tournament 4 of 6 years) but never went far. He was the Big 10 coach of the year in 2018 and had great success at Butler prior to the that. I have to think he's a strong candidate with our AD having come from Ohio st. and likely knew him well. He's 52 years old.
*Tim Miles, San Jose st. - Tim was actually a candidate for the job last year. He was Craig Smith's mentor and had a ton of success at Colorado st. He was fired at Nebraska after that and now has done a decent job at SJSU. I'm not sure any coach can win at SJSU with their lack of fan support and he put out a pretty good team last year. I actually like this idea and he's a coach who would seemingly stay in the job for a long time if successful. He's 58 years old.
*Craig Smith, Utah - Craig Smith has yet to the make the NCAA tournament in 3 years at Utah and there is a strong movement to want to fire him as the admin is not happy with the lifeless state of the program. He is perceived internally to be a poor recruiter and not loved by the players. He likely gets another year as they can't afford his buyout, but if he is fired it's an interesting name. He's 52 years old.
Intriguing Assistant Coaches (I know we're probably past the point of hiring an assistant, but it's still some interesting names to look at.)
*Barrett Peery, UNLV - Peery is an interesting name. He is from Utah and absolutely dominated as a coach College of Southern Idaho JC and Indian Hills JC. He got the job at Portland State where he did okay, but better than most at Portland State. He left to be the associate head coach at Texas Tech and is now at UNLV this year. He's 52 years old.
*Chris Burgess, Utah - He was a very highly regarded assistant coach locally, but is sputtering a bit with Utah faltering. He's said to be an incredible recruiter and I do know there's those within the Utah program who like him a lot that want to fire Smith and hire Burgess. He's 43 years old.
What do you guys think, what names really stick out? For my money, I'm really intrigued by Will Wade.
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Riley will be another short-timer if successful. I know USU has been great the last 6 years but the constant coaching rumors and changes is getting old. Does he have players??bpd wrote:Those two should be in the top 5. Riley will be gone if we don’t move fast.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 6:07 pmI’ll call my shot — if we win next week it’ll be Andy Hill. If we don’t, David Riley, come on down!Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 5:58 pmBump.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 8:15 pmIn light of hearing Sprinkle is gone, I decided to put together a list with a more in-depth look at the potential candidates. And please forgive me for this in light of championship week, but I couldn't help myself. I'll be shocked if our next head coach isn't on this list. My main point is, if Sprinkle is gone the future is bright. There's a lot of exciting names on this list.
In-House
*Andy Hill, USU- Current associate head coach Andy Hill has to be a strong candidate for the job. He does a fair amount of the actual coaching right now and has a lot of good recruiting connections. He's very familiar with out West due to being a long time Utah assistant. He is how we got Ian Martinez here. I believe he's about 46 years old.
Up and Coming Head Coaches
*Darian Devries, Drake - This guy has to be near the top of the list. All he's done in 6 years at Drake is win. He just made his 3rd NCAA tournament in 4 years and his son is their star player. He's a JR that averaged 22 ppg. They beat Nevada by 19 earlier this season However, he's a very hot name out there and I'd be shocked if USU could actually land him. You have to make the call though. He's 47 years old.
*David Riley, Eastern Washington - He's only 35 years old and has been very impressive at Eastern Washington in 3 years. He was the Big Sky coach of the year last year over Danny Sprinkle. However, his team has flamed out and lost early in the Big Sky Tournament the past two years as the 1 seed.
*Chris Gerlufsen, San Francisco - He's only been at San Francisco for two years, but the team was good this year (as we saw first hand) and was quite improved over last year. He was the associate head coach in 2022 when they were a 10 seed in the NCAA tournament. He's been an assistant at various places the past 20 years before getting the head job at San Francisco. He's 47 years old.
*Bucky McMillan, Samford - This is a fascinating name. He coached a HS dynasty bball team in Alabama and was hired directly into Samford. He is in his 4th year where he's taken them from #321 Kenpom to #80. He just led his team to a 29-5 record and NCAA tournament appearance. He is coaching Rylan Jones. He is 40 years old.
*Todd Simon, Bowling Green - He was the 2021 Big Sky coach of the year at SUU and then jumped to Bowling Green for a pay increase. His teams at Bowling Green have been mediocre, but at SUU he was considered a hot young coach. He also spent 1/2 season as UNLV's interim head coach in 2016. SUU was Kenpom ranked #342 when he took over and he got them up to #111. I've heard he wants to get back out West. He's 43 years old.
*Eric Henderson, South Dakota st. - Has been at South Dakota st. the past 5 years and has won the league 4 times. His win % is .693. He doesn't have much experience outside of the Dakotas though and hasn't left the Midwest. He's 46 years old.
*Chris Victor, Seattle- He was the 2022 WAC coach of the year, but Seattle's record has gotten worse each of the 2 seasons he's been there after his first year. He is considered a dynamic young coach. He's approximately 40 years old.
*Joe Pastnerack, UC Santa Barbara - He was a strong candidate for the job last year with UCSB winning the Big West 2 of the past 3 years. All he has done is win in the 7 seasons he's been there. However, this year his term inexplicably has taken a step back and he's having his worst season in 7 years there. Maybe some monotony has set in for him?
*Russell Turner, UC Irvine - He has been at UC Irvine for the past 14 years and has win % of .62. He's won the Big West 7 of the 14 seasons and had a great team this year. He's 53 years old.
Intriguing Veteran Coach Names
*Will Wade, Mcneese st. - Will is most known for being fired from LSU for recruiting violations (LSU was paying recruits). He is back in the game after a few years away and has Mcneese st. at 28-3 on the year. He was a good coach at LSU and had success at VCU before that. He was considered one of the hot young names in coaching and is a dynamic guy. At some point he's going to get another high level job. He's still only 41 years old.
*Chris Holtmann, Ohio State. - He was just fired at Ohio State after 6 years (he made the NCAA tournament 4 of 6 years) but never went far. He was the Big 10 coach of the year in 2018 and had great success at Butler prior to the that. I have to think he's a strong candidate with our AD having come from Ohio st. and likely knew him well. He's 52 years old.
*Tim Miles, San Jose st. - Tim was actually a candidate for the job last year. He was Craig Smith's mentor and had a ton of success at Colorado st. He was fired at Nebraska after that and now has done a decent job at SJSU. I'm not sure any coach can win at SJSU with their lack of fan support and he put out a pretty good team last year. I actually like this idea and he's a coach who would seemingly stay in the job for a long time if successful. He's 58 years old.
*Craig Smith, Utah - Craig Smith has yet to the make the NCAA tournament in 3 years at Utah and there is a strong movement to want to fire him as the admin is not happy with the lifeless state of the program. He is perceived internally to be a poor recruiter and not loved by the players. He likely gets another year as they can't afford his buyout, but if he is fired it's an interesting name. He's 52 years old.
Intriguing Assistant Coaches (I know we're probably past the point of hiring an assistant, but it's still some interesting names to look at.)
*Barrett Peery, UNLV - Peery is an interesting name. He is from Utah and absolutely dominated as a coach College of Southern Idaho JC and Indian Hills JC. He got the job at Portland State where he did okay, but better than most at Portland State. He left to be the associate head coach at Texas Tech and is now at UNLV this year. He's 52 years old.
*Chris Burgess, Utah - He was a very highly regarded assistant coach locally, but is sputtering a bit with Utah faltering. He's said to be an incredible recruiter and I do know there's those within the Utah program who like him a lot that want to fire Smith and hire Burgess. He's 43 years old.
What do you guys think, what names really stick out? For my money, I'm really intrigued by Will Wade.
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Oh, Riley would for sure just be the next coach that exploits USU for his own personal gain and leaves us with nothing. I think that’s every coach though.FeartheFro wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 7:11 pmRiley will be another short-timer if successful. I know USU has been great the last 6 years but the constant coaching rumors and changes is getting old. Does he have players??bpd wrote:Those two should be in the top 5. Riley will be gone if we don’t move fast.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 6:07 pmI’ll call my shot — if we win next week it’ll be Andy Hill. If we don’t, David Riley, come on down!Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 5:58 pmBump.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 8:15 pmIn light of hearing Sprinkle is gone, I decided to put together a list with a more in-depth look at the potential candidates. And please forgive me for this in light of championship week, but I couldn't help myself. I'll be shocked if our next head coach isn't on this list. My main point is, if Sprinkle is gone the future is bright. There's a lot of exciting names on this list.
In-House
*Andy Hill, USU- Current associate head coach Andy Hill has to be a strong candidate for the job. He does a fair amount of the actual coaching right now and has a lot of good recruiting connections. He's very familiar with out West due to being a long time Utah assistant. He is how we got Ian Martinez here. I believe he's about 46 years old.
Up and Coming Head Coaches
*Darian Devries, Drake - This guy has to be near the top of the list. All he's done in 6 years at Drake is win. He just made his 3rd NCAA tournament in 4 years and his son is their star player. He's a JR that averaged 22 ppg. They beat Nevada by 19 earlier this season However, he's a very hot name out there and I'd be shocked if USU could actually land him. You have to make the call though. He's 47 years old.
*David Riley, Eastern Washington - He's only 35 years old and has been very impressive at Eastern Washington in 3 years. He was the Big Sky coach of the year last year over Danny Sprinkle. However, his team has flamed out and lost early in the Big Sky Tournament the past two years as the 1 seed.
*Chris Gerlufsen, San Francisco - He's only been at San Francisco for two years, but the team was good this year (as we saw first hand) and was quite improved over last year. He was the associate head coach in 2022 when they were a 10 seed in the NCAA tournament. He's been an assistant at various places the past 20 years before getting the head job at San Francisco. He's 47 years old.
*Bucky McMillan, Samford - This is a fascinating name. He coached a HS dynasty bball team in Alabama and was hired directly into Samford. He is in his 4th year where he's taken them from #321 Kenpom to #80. He just led his team to a 29-5 record and NCAA tournament appearance. He is coaching Rylan Jones. He is 40 years old.
*Todd Simon, Bowling Green - He was the 2021 Big Sky coach of the year at SUU and then jumped to Bowling Green for a pay increase. His teams at Bowling Green have been mediocre, but at SUU he was considered a hot young coach. He also spent 1/2 season as UNLV's interim head coach in 2016. SUU was Kenpom ranked #342 when he took over and he got them up to #111. I've heard he wants to get back out West. He's 43 years old.
*Eric Henderson, South Dakota st. - Has been at South Dakota st. the past 5 years and has won the league 4 times. His win % is .693. He doesn't have much experience outside of the Dakotas though and hasn't left the Midwest. He's 46 years old.
*Chris Victor, Seattle- He was the 2022 WAC coach of the year, but Seattle's record has gotten worse each of the 2 seasons he's been there after his first year. He is considered a dynamic young coach. He's approximately 40 years old.
*Joe Pastnerack, UC Santa Barbara - He was a strong candidate for the job last year with UCSB winning the Big West 2 of the past 3 years. All he has done is win in the 7 seasons he's been there. However, this year his term inexplicably has taken a step back and he's having his worst season in 7 years there. Maybe some monotony has set in for him?
*Russell Turner, UC Irvine - He has been at UC Irvine for the past 14 years and has win % of .62. He's won the Big West 7 of the 14 seasons and had a great team this year. He's 53 years old.
Intriguing Veteran Coach Names
*Will Wade, Mcneese st. - Will is most known for being fired from LSU for recruiting violations (LSU was paying recruits). He is back in the game after a few years away and has Mcneese st. at 28-3 on the year. He was a good coach at LSU and had success at VCU before that. He was considered one of the hot young names in coaching and is a dynamic guy. At some point he's going to get another high level job. He's still only 41 years old.
*Chris Holtmann, Ohio State. - He was just fired at Ohio State after 6 years (he made the NCAA tournament 4 of 6 years) but never went far. He was the Big 10 coach of the year in 2018 and had great success at Butler prior to the that. I have to think he's a strong candidate with our AD having come from Ohio st. and likely knew him well. He's 52 years old.
*Tim Miles, San Jose st. - Tim was actually a candidate for the job last year. He was Craig Smith's mentor and had a ton of success at Colorado st. He was fired at Nebraska after that and now has done a decent job at SJSU. I'm not sure any coach can win at SJSU with their lack of fan support and he put out a pretty good team last year. I actually like this idea and he's a coach who would seemingly stay in the job for a long time if successful. He's 58 years old.
*Craig Smith, Utah - Craig Smith has yet to the make the NCAA tournament in 3 years at Utah and there is a strong movement to want to fire him as the admin is not happy with the lifeless state of the program. He is perceived internally to be a poor recruiter and not loved by the players. He likely gets another year as they can't afford his buyout, but if he is fired it's an interesting name. He's 52 years old.
Intriguing Assistant Coaches (I know we're probably past the point of hiring an assistant, but it's still some interesting names to look at.)
*Barrett Peery, UNLV - Peery is an interesting name. He is from Utah and absolutely dominated as a coach College of Southern Idaho JC and Indian Hills JC. He got the job at Portland State where he did okay, but better than most at Portland State. He left to be the associate head coach at Texas Tech and is now at UNLV this year. He's 52 years old.
*Chris Burgess, Utah - He was a very highly regarded assistant coach locally, but is sputtering a bit with Utah faltering. He's said to be an incredible recruiter and I do know there's those within the Utah program who like him a lot that want to fire Smith and hire Burgess. He's 43 years old.
What do you guys think, what names really stick out? For my money, I'm really intrigued by Will Wade.
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In other words hire a coach that will have modest success but not enough that other schools will want to steal him. Tim Duryea— come on down!!ViAggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 12:33 pmhopefully find us a GOOD coach WHO WANT'S TO BE HERE and STAY HERE! That would be cool.deltaaggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 11:56 amI would also point out that Smith and Odom were found using a hiring firm. Jerry Bovee found Sprinkle all by himself. Who knows what Sabau will want to do?
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I think you’re confused. You said modest success and then mentioned Tim Duryea.utaggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 7:34 pmIn other words hire a coach that will have modest success but not enough that other schools will want to steal him. Tim Duryea— come on down!!ViAggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 12:33 pmhopefully find us a GOOD coach WHO WANT'S TO BE HERE and STAY HERE! That would be cool.deltaaggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 11:56 amI would also point out that Smith and Odom were found using a hiring firm. Jerry Bovee found Sprinkle all by himself. Who knows what Sabau will want to do?
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Maybe he meant no success.Hoot wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 7:42 pmI think you’re confused. You said modest success and then mentioned Tim Duryea.utaggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 7:34 pmIn other words hire a coach that will have modest success but not enough that other schools will want to steal him. Tim Duryea— come on down!!ViAggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 12:33 pmhopefully find us a GOOD coach WHO WANT'S TO BE HERE and STAY HERE! That would be cool.deltaaggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 11:56 amI would also point out that Smith and Odom were found using a hiring firm. Jerry Bovee found Sprinkle all by himself. Who knows what Sabau will want to do?
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I will NEVER accept this premise.utaggies wrote:In other words hire a coach that will have modest success but not enough that other schools will want to steal him. Tim Duryea— come on down!!ViAggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 12:33 pmhopefully find us a GOOD coach WHO WANT'S TO BE HERE and STAY HERE! That would be cool.deltaaggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 11:56 amI would also point out that Smith and Odom were found using a hiring firm. Jerry Bovee found Sprinkle all by himself. Who knows what Sabau will want to do?
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Or Stewutaggies wrote: ↑March 16th, 2024, 7:34 pmIn other words hire a coach that will have modest success but not enough that other schools will want to steal him. Tim Duryea— come on down!!ViAggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 12:33 pmhopefully find us a GOOD coach WHO WANT'S TO BE HERE and STAY HERE! That would be cool.deltaaggie wrote: ↑March 14th, 2024, 11:56 amI would also point out that Smith and Odom were found using a hiring firm. Jerry Bovee found Sprinkle all by himself. Who knows what Sabau will want to do?