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I'm pessimistic, but I say 30/70 he stays. That's up from like 10/90 before hearing about how competitive the extension offer is.
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I just keep thinking that the grass isn't always greener. He can take the team with him, have more NIL and charters, but the Spectrum and the HURD stay at Utah State. That type of culture and environment takes a lot more time and effort to build up, if it ever happens. While a program does need investment to win, it's not as much as football and the tournament is the great equalizer.
We talk about ego leading coaches and players to the bigger conferences. I can see it more for players since they have a defined eligibility window. I think the ultimate ego accomplishment for a coach should be taking a program with sufficient resources and building it into a power and attracting the resources, becoming a legend, rather than chasing the resources. It takes more work and a little patience.
If I were Washington or any other deep pocket school, I would have a little pause about Coach Sprinkle. The team easily could have lost to Akron, Santa Clara, San Francisco, @ UNLV, @ Boise, SDSU at home, @ Fresno, and New Mexico at home. The season has been a great accomplishment, especially relative to expectations, but our team hasn't exactly been dominant. If we're 18-13 this isn't even a discussion. It might not be one if we're 22-9. Maybe he feels he has to strike while the iron is hot, but if that's the case he always had one foot out the door anyway.
Lastly, I don't really buy any of the lifestyle arguments. Basketball coaches are very busy people. It might be nice to have bars and more of a nightlife, but the presence of those can also be more of a distraction for a team. If those are any type of factor, I think it's more of an excuse and this is similar to Odom. I don't get that from Sprinkle.
We talk about ego leading coaches and players to the bigger conferences. I can see it more for players since they have a defined eligibility window. I think the ultimate ego accomplishment for a coach should be taking a program with sufficient resources and building it into a power and attracting the resources, becoming a legend, rather than chasing the resources. It takes more work and a little patience.
If I were Washington or any other deep pocket school, I would have a little pause about Coach Sprinkle. The team easily could have lost to Akron, Santa Clara, San Francisco, @ UNLV, @ Boise, SDSU at home, @ Fresno, and New Mexico at home. The season has been a great accomplishment, especially relative to expectations, but our team hasn't exactly been dominant. If we're 18-13 this isn't even a discussion. It might not be one if we're 22-9. Maybe he feels he has to strike while the iron is hot, but if that's the case he always had one foot out the door anyway.
Lastly, I don't really buy any of the lifestyle arguments. Basketball coaches are very busy people. It might be nice to have bars and more of a nightlife, but the presence of those can also be more of a distraction for a team. If those are any type of factor, I think it's more of an excuse and this is similar to Odom. I don't get that from Sprinkle.
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But it might work for Sprinkle...
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Zaggie07 wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 9:42 pmI just keep thinking that the grass isn't always greener. He can take the team with him, have more NIL and charters, but the Spectrum and the HURD stay at Utah State. That type of culture and environment takes a lot more time and effort to build up, if it ever happens. While a program does need investment to win, it's not as much as football and the tournament is the great equalizer.
We talk about ego leading coaches and players to the bigger conferences. I can see it more for players since they have a defined eligibility window. I think the ultimate ego accomplishment for a coach should be taking a program with sufficient resources and building it into a power and attracting the resources, becoming a legend, rather than chasing the resources. It takes more work and a little patience.
If I were Washington or any other deep pocket school, I would have a little pause about Coach Sprinkle. The team easily could have lost to Akron, Santa Clara, San Francisco, @ UNLV, @ Boise, SDSU at home, @ Fresno, and New Mexico at home. The season has been a great accomplishment, especially relative to expectations, but our team hasn't exactly been dominant. If we're 18-13 this isn't even a discussion. It might not be one if we're 22-9. Maybe he feels he has to strike while the iron is hot, but if that's the case he always had one foot out the door anyway.
Lastly, I don't really buy any of the lifestyle arguments. Basketball coaches are very busy people. It might be nice to have bars and more of a nightlife, but the presence of those can also be more of a distraction for a team. If those are any type of factor, I think it's more of an excuse and this is similar to Odom. I don't get that from Sprinkle.
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This thread is amazing! Everyone knows everything and nothing all at the same time! Because no one actually knows anything, why not hope that he stays? Are you protecting yourself from getting hurt?
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This is the aggie wayAggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 10:00 pmThis thread is amazing! Everyone knows everything and nothing all at the same time! Because no one actually knows anything, why not hope that he stays? Are you protecting yourself from getting hurt?
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We not only need to open our wallets, but must open our hearts and allow “hope” to reside within. NamasteMrBiggle wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 10:13 pmThis is the aggie wayAggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 10:00 pmThis thread is amazing! Everyone knows everything and nothing all at the same time! Because no one actually knows anything, why not hope that he stays? Are you protecting yourself from getting hurt?
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100%Zaggie07 wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 9:42 pmI just keep thinking that the grass isn't always greener. He can take the team with him, have more NIL and charters, but the Spectrum and the HURD stay at Utah State. That type of culture and environment takes a lot more time and effort to build up, if it ever happens. While a program does need investment to win, it's not as much as football and the tournament is the great equalizer.
We talk about ego leading coaches and players to the bigger conferences. I can see it more for players since they have a defined eligibility window. I think the ultimate ego accomplishment for a coach should be taking a program with sufficient resources and building it into a power and attracting the resources, becoming a legend, rather than chasing the resources. It takes more work and a little patience.
If I were Washington or any other deep pocket school, I would have a little pause about Coach Sprinkle. The team easily could have lost to Akron, Santa Clara, San Francisco, @ UNLV, @ Boise, SDSU at home, @ Fresno, and New Mexico at home. The season has been a great accomplishment, especially relative to expectations, but our team hasn't exactly been dominant. If we're 18-13 this isn't even a discussion. It might not be one if we're 22-9. Maybe he feels he has to strike while the iron is hot, but if that's the case he always had one foot out the door anyway.
Lastly, I don't really buy any of the lifestyle arguments. Basketball coaches are very busy people. It might be nice to have bars and more of a nightlife, but the presence of those can also be more of a distraction for a team. If those are any type of factor, I think it's more of an excuse and this is similar to Odom. I don't get that from Sprinkle.
It was a great accomplishment to do what Sprinkle did, build a new roster basically from scratch minus Falslev, Johnson, Sahko and Templin, win the MW regular season title in a very competitive year, it’s all great. But realistically there is not much difference between this team and the Odom teams, or the Smith teams. All 3 were able to build very competitive rosters, they had good KenPom numbers and Net ratings, that’s where we are as a program…it’s a baseline for any competent coach to achieve.
If Washington thinks Sprinkle is that great, awesome for Sprinkle. I’m not sure why a school with supposedly so much money isn’t going after a more successful high major coach at a school with less resources (Otzelberger at ISU, Shaka Smart, McCasland at TT, Wazzu coach maybe, hell even Pope). I really don’t see how they will be any different from Utah since Smith got there, which is decent but either borderline tourney team or not a tourney team.
We can wish Sprinkle the best, I assume multiple players will follow him, others may transfer out, but the coaches who are successful at Utah State are the beneficiaries of the symbiotic relationship at the school more than the usual HC (likely true in football too).
Oh well, more money for us
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AggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 10:20 pmWe not only need to open our wallets, but must open our hearts and allow “hope” to reside within. NamasteMrBiggle wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 10:13 pmThis is the aggie wayAggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 10:00 pmThis thread is amazing! Everyone knows everything and nothing all at the same time! Because no one actually knows anything, why not hope that he stays? Are you protecting yourself from getting hurt?
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I don't find this important enough to worry about at this point in the season. As long as it isn't a distraction for the tournaments, I don't really care.
The reality is that Washington, or any of the big boys for that matter, will get what they want. There isn't an offer we can give that will change that. We have known this to be the case for decades. We have also seen good coaches come in and have immediate success. With the increased philanthropy of our fanbase, we should be fine moving forward. That shouldn't be attached to Sprinkle, it should be attached to creating a competitive program, which we have.
The reality is that Washington, or any of the big boys for that matter, will get what they want. There isn't an offer we can give that will change that. We have known this to be the case for decades. We have also seen good coaches come in and have immediate success. With the increased philanthropy of our fanbase, we should be fine moving forward. That shouldn't be attached to Sprinkle, it should be attached to creating a competitive program, which we have.
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This. The more successful coaches that move on, the more I believe it’s due to tradition than a single man or luck.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 1:25 am100%Zaggie07 wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 9:42 pmI just keep thinking that the grass isn't always greener. He can take the team with him, have more NIL and charters, but the Spectrum and the HURD stay at Utah State. That type of culture and environment takes a lot more time and effort to build up, if it ever happens. While a program does need investment to win, it's not as much as football and the tournament is the great equalizer.
We talk about ego leading coaches and players to the bigger conferences. I can see it more for players since they have a defined eligibility window. I think the ultimate ego accomplishment for a coach should be taking a program with sufficient resources and building it into a power and attracting the resources, becoming a legend, rather than chasing the resources. It takes more work and a little patience.
If I were Washington or any other deep pocket school, I would have a little pause about Coach Sprinkle. The team easily could have lost to Akron, Santa Clara, San Francisco, @ UNLV, @ Boise, SDSU at home, @ Fresno, and New Mexico at home. The season has been a great accomplishment, especially relative to expectations, but our team hasn't exactly been dominant. If we're 18-13 this isn't even a discussion. It might not be one if we're 22-9. Maybe he feels he has to strike while the iron is hot, but if that's the case he always had one foot out the door anyway.
Lastly, I don't really buy any of the lifestyle arguments. Basketball coaches are very busy people. It might be nice to have bars and more of a nightlife, but the presence of those can also be more of a distraction for a team. If those are any type of factor, I think it's more of an excuse and this is similar to Odom. I don't get that from Sprinkle.
It was a great accomplishment to do what Sprinkle did, build a new roster basically from scratch minus Falslev, Johnson, Sahko and Templin, win the MW regular season title in a very competitive year, it’s all great. But realistically there is not much difference between this team and the Odom teams, or the Smith teams. All 3 were able to build very competitive rosters, they had good KenPom numbers and Net ratings, that’s where we are as a program…it’s a baseline for any competent coach to achieve.
If Washington thinks Sprinkle is that great, awesome for Sprinkle. I’m not sure why a school with supposedly so much money isn’t going after a more successful high major coach at a school with less resources (Otzelberger at ISU, Shaka Smart, McCasland at TT, Wazzu coach maybe, hell even Pope). I really don’t see how they will be any different from Utah since Smith got there, which is decent but either borderline tourney team or not a tourney team.
We can wish Sprinkle the best, I assume multiple players will follow him, others may transfer out, but the coaches who are successful at Utah State are the beneficiaries of the symbiotic relationship at the school more than the usual HC (likely true in football too).
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All of us are experienced enough in this that we should cycle through the stages of grief quickly. I'm in acceptance mode. UW is likely offering 3.5-4 MM a year. They are building a brand new 60 MM practice facility and are overflowing with NIL funds. They will be playing in an elite basketball conference.
I would love it and be surprised if Sprinkle stays, but it's really hard to turn all that down. If he leaves, I'm confident in our ability to offer someone good to come and maintain success.
My only audacious ask is that Sprinkle wins a tourney game on his way out. If he does that, I will harbor no bitterness.
I would love it and be surprised if Sprinkle stays, but it's really hard to turn all that down. If he leaves, I'm confident in our ability to offer someone good to come and maintain success.
My only audacious ask is that Sprinkle wins a tourney game on his way out. If he does that, I will harbor no bitterness.
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Usu0505 wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 9:36 amWhenever USU ran a good search we have hit with solid hires. Started with Stew and then also with Smith, Odom and Sprinkle. Duryea is an awesome assistant coach but a very mediocre head coach and that was just an overall super lazy hire by Barnes. If USU needs a new coach and does a solid search they will get a very good coach with ample prior head coaching experience.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 1:25 am100%Zaggie07 wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 9:42 pmI just keep thinking that the grass isn't always greener. He can take the team with him, have more NIL and charters, but the Spectrum and the HURD stay at Utah State. That type of culture and environment takes a lot more time and effort to build up, if it ever happens. While a program does need investment to win, it's not as much as football and the tournament is the great equalizer.
We talk about ego leading coaches and players to the bigger conferences. I can see it more for players since they have a defined eligibility window. I think the ultimate ego accomplishment for a coach should be taking a program with sufficient resources and building it into a power and attracting the resources, becoming a legend, rather than chasing the resources. It takes more work and a little patience.
If I were Washington or any other deep pocket school, I would have a little pause about Coach Sprinkle. The team easily could have lost to Akron, Santa Clara, San Francisco, @ UNLV, @ Boise, SDSU at home, @ Fresno, and New Mexico at home. The season has been a great accomplishment, especially relative to expectations, but our team hasn't exactly been dominant. If we're 18-13 this isn't even a discussion. It might not be one if we're 22-9. Maybe he feels he has to strike while the iron is hot, but if that's the case he always had one foot out the door anyway.
Lastly, I don't really buy any of the lifestyle arguments. Basketball coaches are very busy people. It might be nice to have bars and more of a nightlife, but the presence of those can also be more of a distraction for a team. If those are any type of factor, I think it's more of an excuse and this is similar to Odom. I don't get that from Sprinkle.
It was a great accomplishment to do what Sprinkle did, build a new roster basically from scratch minus Falslev, Johnson, Sahko and Templin, win the MW regular season title in a very competitive year, it’s all great. But realistically there is not much difference between this team and the Odom teams, or the Smith teams. All 3 were able to build very competitive rosters, they had good KenPom numbers and Net ratings, that’s where we are as a program…it’s a baseline for any competent coach to achieve.
If Washington thinks Sprinkle is that great, awesome for Sprinkle. I’m not sure why a school with supposedly so much money isn’t going after a more successful high major coach at a school with less resources (Otzelberger at ISU, Shaka Smart, McCasland at TT, Wazzu coach maybe, hell even Pope). I really don’t see how they will be any different from Utah since Smith got there, which is decent but either borderline tourney team or not a tourney team.
We can wish Sprinkle the best, I assume multiple players will follow him, others may transfer out, but the coaches who are successful at Utah State are the beneficiaries of the symbiotic relationship at the school more than the usual HC (likely true in football too).
Oh well, more money for us
This. The more successful coaches that move on, the more I believe it’s due to tradition than a single man or luck.
Let’s just keep rolling.
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It depends on how you look at it.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 9:05 pmNo one here is saying USU is a better job than Washington
If you're a massive competitor with a big ego, no doubt, Washington is the better job.
If you're still a competitor but recognize the limitations of Washington and want a more stable job, you wait at least another year for a better opportunity especially with the roster you have returning, the conference you're playing in, the counter offer you've been given and the success you had in 2024.
If you're just looking for long term stability and love Logan, then you stay in Logan indefinitely.
It's not difficult to understand. Simply because there is 3-4MM on the table doesn't mean you take it. I understand that it's a lot of money but so is similar money in a stable job next year. I argue that Washington will be damn near the dregs of the big 10. I don't think I'm far off. If we were talking Arizona or UCLA it's a different story.
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I voted gone. While I'm sure it's probably happened a couple times, I can't think of any examples where national media guys were saying a P5 school was locked in on a candidate and the non-P5 candidate coach elected to stay.
At this point, I think the only way he stays is if we go on a deep tournament run - maybe sweet 16 but would probably need elite 8. It would be hard to walk away from a team that advanced that far and was bringing the core back (similar to Porter Moser at Loyala a few years ago, or Dusty May at FAU last year). Of course, Loyola lost Moser a couple years later, and rumor is May is going to end up at Ohio St this year. But at least we'd get another year of Sprinkle and this core to run it back.
At this point, I think the only way he stays is if we go on a deep tournament run - maybe sweet 16 but would probably need elite 8. It would be hard to walk away from a team that advanced that far and was bringing the core back (similar to Porter Moser at Loyala a few years ago, or Dusty May at FAU last year). Of course, Loyola lost Moser a couple years later, and rumor is May is going to end up at Ohio St this year. But at least we'd get another year of Sprinkle and this core to run it back.
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Or.....he'd just take this core to Washington with him, but I like the optimism.Aggie702 wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 10:52 amI voted gone. While I'm sure it's probably happened a couple times, I can't think of any examples where national media guys were saying a P5 school was locked in on a candidate and the non-P5 candidate coach elected to stay.
At this point, I think the only way he stays is if we go on a deep tournament run - maybe sweet 16 but would probably need elite 8. It would be hard to walk away from a team that advanced that far and was bringing the core back (similar to Porter Moser at Loyala a few years ago, or Dusty May at FAU last year). Of course, Loyola lost Moser a couple years later, and rumor is May is going to end up at Ohio St this year. But at least we'd get another year of Sprinkle and this core to run it back.
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It’s pretty hard to turn down a job offering 1.5-2+ mil more a year guaranteed over 5-7+ years. I think USU is a better program right now than Washington, while they have the resources to have a higher ceiling but also a lower floor competing against tons of insanely well funded programs, good coaches and tons of NIL money.AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 10:14 amIt depends on how you look at it.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑March 10th, 2024, 9:05 pmNo one here is saying USU is a better job than Washington
If you're a massive competitor with a big ego, no doubt, Washington is the better job.
If you're still a competitor but recognize the limitations of Washington and want a more stable job, you wait at least another year for a better opportunity especially with the roster you have returning, the conference you're playing in, the counter offer you've been given and the success you had in 2024.
If you're just looking for long term stability and love Logan, then you stay in Logan indefinitely.
It's not difficult to understand. Simply because there is 3-4MM on the table doesn't mean you take it. I understand that it's a lot of money but so is similar money in a stable job next year. I argue that Washington will be damn near the dregs of the big 10. I don't think I'm far off. If we were talking Arizona or UCLA it's a different story.
USU is great because it has so many things going for it that money can’t buy. I think coaches who leave and their new schools will eventually figure that out
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I don't think that this is entirely true. We are probably never going to be able to match P5 offers, admittedly. But I feel like the calculus becomes a lot different once we can offer coaches around $2M per year (as we supposedly offered Sprinkle). An $800k salary is definitely very nice, but once you subtract taxes and other expenses and consider the fact that many coaches only last 4-5 years, it's not a salary that guarantees a comfortable living for the rest of your life. But a 5-year contract at $2 million per year means you are set for life even if you fail. And maybe I can't comprehend the life of the ultra-wealthy, but I feel like once you are earning $2 million per year, raising that to $3-$4 million per year isn't going to drastically improve your quality of life. Sure if Kansas wants USU's coach, they are almost certainly going to get them. But I feel like we will be far less likely to lose coaches to low/mid-tier P6 programs if we can pay coaches $2 million and give them the resources to succeed.NVAggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 9:17 amI don't find this important enough to worry about at this point in the season. As long as it isn't a distraction for the tournaments, I don't really care.
The reality is that Washington, or any of the big boys for that matter, will get what they want. There isn't an offer we can give that will change that. We have known this to be the case for decades. We have also seen good coaches come in and have immediate success. With the increased philanthropy of our fanbase, we should be fine moving forward. That shouldn't be attached to Sprinkle, it should be attached to creating a competitive program, which we have.
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Danny Sprinkle is great. I hope he stays. If not, then I will cheer for his team wherever he ends up.
If he decides to leave, I hope that he doesn't settle for Washington. Aside from the in-state rivalry piece, it was disappointing that Craig Smith followed the $ to a middling PAC-12 team with no fan support. Don't let Danny do the same.
If he decides to leave, I hope that he doesn't settle for Washington. Aside from the in-state rivalry piece, it was disappointing that Craig Smith followed the $ to a middling PAC-12 team with no fan support. Don't let Danny do the same.
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Oh for sure, that would still be a the very likely outcome, and a deep run makes him even more attractive. However, at least there is some precedent for a coach staying after a deep run. Whereas, if we get bounced in the first round it wouldn't even make the decision hard for Danny.TrueBlue wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 11:06 amOr.....he'd just take this core to Washington with him, but I like the optimism.Aggie702 wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 10:52 amI voted gone. While I'm sure it's probably happened a couple times, I can't think of any examples where national media guys were saying a P5 school was locked in on a candidate and the non-P5 candidate coach elected to stay.
At this point, I think the only way he stays is if we go on a deep tournament run - maybe sweet 16 but would probably need elite 8. It would be hard to walk away from a team that advanced that far and was bringing the core back (similar to Porter Moser at Loyala a few years ago, or Dusty May at FAU last year). Of course, Loyola lost Moser a couple years later, and rumor is May is going to end up at Ohio St this year. But at least we'd get another year of Sprinkle and this core to run it back.
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Danny Sprinkle has a lot to consider before taking the Washington job. It's true that he gets a big raise. However, there is no way that UW offers a first year coach more than $3.5M-$4M. With the much higher cost of living in Seattle, This will eat away a substantial amount of the increase from the new USU contract being offered. Also, UW is a total football school. Sprinkle will be giving up one of the great home courts in the country and great fans for a place that has a dead arena and not a lot of fan support. This is no different than what Craig Smith inherited at Utah. Likewise, the far left Woke culture of Seattle seems very different than the Montana culture that Sprinkle loves. Is he really going to enjoy Seattle where a lot of crime gets ignored, urban camping is allowed with it's many problems of open drug use, poop on the sidewalks, etc.
With what looks to be a great contract offer from USU along with our upward trajectory in the MWC, our program now offers a lot to coach. Also, the MWC is now close to being a High-Major conference as opposed to mid-major. Danny Sprinkle certainly has a lot to consider. If he leaves for perceived greener pastures, he will certainly be leaving a lot behind at USU.
With what looks to be a great contract offer from USU along with our upward trajectory in the MWC, our program now offers a lot to coach. Also, the MWC is now close to being a High-Major conference as opposed to mid-major. Danny Sprinkle certainly has a lot to consider. If he leaves for perceived greener pastures, he will certainly be leaving a lot behind at USU.
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It's called karma in this case. Just as it was karma that Gary Andersen went to Wisconsin. You may say, but but but, Gary grabbed a ton of cash. Yes. However look at how picking a bad job ruined his career for the long term. Is he hurting now because of it? No. But he's not a head coach with a winning reputation and a legend either. Those two things are worth some money. Coach Smith will not fall as hard but his days of being a head coach are numberedReal Life Aggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 12:01 pmDanny Sprinkle is great. I hope he stays. If not, then I will cheer for his team wherever he ends up.
If he decides to leave, I hope that he doesn't settle for Washington. Aside from the in-state rivalry piece, it was disappointing that Craig Smith followed the $ to a middling PAC-12 team with no fan support. Don't let Danny do the same.
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Out side of Utah State I dont really follow coaching changes. How often do power 5 coaches leave for other jobs? To me it seems at that level coaches either get fired or stay put long term. Does that factor into a decision to go to a place like Washington if its not be where Sprinkle would want to be long term. Or maybe its the exact place he wants to be long term i have no idea what he wants.
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Former HCs at USU have not had much on field/court success as they've moved on recently: Football and basketball included.AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 12:56 pmIt's called karma in this case. Just as it was karma that Gary Andersen went to Wisconsin. You may say, but but but, Gary grabbed a ton of cash. Yes. However look at how picking a bad job ruined his career for the long term. Is he hurting now because of it? No. But he's not a head coach with a winning reputation and a legend either. Those two things are worth some money. Coach Smith will not fall as hard but his days of being a head coach are numberedReal Life Aggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 12:01 pmDanny Sprinkle is great. I hope he stays. If not, then I will cheer for his team wherever he ends up.
If he decides to leave, I hope that he doesn't settle for Washington. Aside from the in-state rivalry piece, it was disappointing that Craig Smith followed the $ to a middling PAC-12 team with no fan support. Don't let Danny do the same.
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When was the last one that picked a more stable program. Wisconsin? Nope. Barry Alvarez was still the boss there. I can't think of one. Every coach has taken jobs that are revolving doors because it's so difficult to win there consistently.Madmartigan wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 12:57 pmFormer HCs at USU have not had much on field/court success as they've moved on recently: Football and basketball included.AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 12:56 pmIt's called karma in this case. Just as it was karma that Gary Andersen went to Wisconsin. You may say, but but but, Gary grabbed a ton of cash. Yes. However look at how picking a bad job ruined his career for the long term. Is he hurting now because of it? No. But he's not a head coach with a winning reputation and a legend either. Those two things are worth some money. Coach Smith will not fall as hard but his days of being a head coach are numberedReal Life Aggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 12:01 pmDanny Sprinkle is great. I hope he stays. If not, then I will cheer for his team wherever he ends up.
If he decides to leave, I hope that he doesn't settle for Washington. Aside from the in-state rivalry piece, it was disappointing that Craig Smith followed the $ to a middling PAC-12 team with no fan support. Don't let Danny do the same.
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Before anyone jumps on my case, I'm just saying that Utah State coaches should strike while the iron is red hot not white the iron is just getting hot. Why? You can jump from Utah State to a basketball school that wins not to a revolving door. That is if they're a little more patient, calculated and are young in their career like Sprinkle.
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Re: Staying or Leaving Poll
Porter Moser leaving Oklahoma to go to Depaul. I know he’s an Illinois guy formerly of Loyola Illinois but this seems like an interesting move.
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There it is again, the cost of living argument….
So if Danny wants to invest $1million/year in an S&P 500 fund, buy a $5 million ranch in Montana, take his parents on multiple lavish vacations around the world, invest in or donate to other endeavors, can you help me understand why that will cost substantially more if he’s living in Seattle?
What if Sprinkle has a couple of sub .500 seasons at USU, how many fans would want to move on? Not a lot of job security in head coaching.
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I could live on 3.5-4 MM a year in Seattle + a car allowance + free food.. but it would take VERY careful budgeting.Pacobag wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 1:23 pmThere it is again, the cost of living argument….
So if Danny wants to invest $1million/year in an S&P 500 fund, buy a $5 million ranch in Montana, take his parents on multiple lavish vacations around the world, invest in or donate to other endeavors, can you help me understand why that will cost substantially more if he’s living in Seattle?
What if Sprinkle has a couple of sub .500 seasons at USU, how many fans would want to move on? Not a lot of job security in head coaching.
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Re: Staying or Leaving Poll
Agreed. If he goes to Washington he will be on the hot seat in year 3 and fired the following year. Then what? You’re done. No where to go now.MetsJetsAggies wrote:No one here is saying USU is a better job than Washington, but I don’t think It’s worth leaving for if his aspirations are bigger. Feels like a dead end and not a spot he can win a natty at. Plus the travel is going to be pretty crappy
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Re: Staying or Leaving Poll
Dutcher signed his contract extension before the MW and NCAA tourney, and took a massive distraction off the table.
If Sprinkle were staying, he wouldn’t he do the same?
I’m just hoping 74% of you see something I don’t.
If Sprinkle were staying, he wouldn’t he do the same?
I’m just hoping 74% of you see something I don’t.
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Apples and Oranges, based on timing alone.ChowderAggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2024, 3:07 pmDutcher signed his contract extension before the MW and NCAA tourney, and took a massive distraction off the table.
If Sprinkle were staying, he wouldn’t he do the same?
I’m just hoping 74% of you see something I don’t.
when did Dutcher get his new contract to review and counter and re-review and sign? All we know is he signed on Thursday last week.
When did Sprinkle get his new contract to review and counter an re-review and sign? All we know is the contract was first given to him on Friday, the night before a key game for clinching the undisputed regular season conference championship.
I hope he wouldn't have spent Saturday reviewing and preparing a counter -and it seems they were locked into beating UNM that day.
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