8/9 vs TCU

SpectrumMagic · Post by **SpectrumMagic** » March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm

ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.

AggieIceCream05 · Post by **AggieIceCream05** » March 17th, 2024, 7:53 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.

Makes sense. Why would anyone favor us? We haven’t proved anything when the lights turn on. We could ask TCU if they will play this game in The Spectrum?

cval · Post by **cval** » March 17th, 2024, 7:55 pm

AggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:53 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.
Makes sense. Why would anyone favor us? We haven’t proved anything when the lights turn on. We could ask TCU if they will play this game in The Spectrum?

This is why people call you a troll.

aggieohio · Post by **aggieohio** » March 17th, 2024, 7:56 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:55 pm

AggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:53 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.
Makes sense. Why would anyone favor us? We haven’t proved anything when the lights turn on. We could ask TCU if they will play this game in The Spectrum?
This is why people call you a troll.

I mean he’s not wrong lol

AggieIceCream05 · Post by **AggieIceCream05** » March 17th, 2024, 7:57 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:55 pm

AggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:53 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.
Makes sense. Why would anyone favor us? We haven’t proved anything when the lights turn on. We could ask TCU if they will play this game in The Spectrum?
This is why people call you a troll.

Am I wrong? So many people make similar comments. Don’t get your panties in a bunch.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » March 17th, 2024, 8:06 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 4:35 pm
TCU is a game we CAN win. If we are really good enough to be a 5 or 6 seed, we should be able to beat TCU.

Yep. Tcu is more winnable than many of the games they had us lined up against in the projections. We have a winnable game, let's go win it

afausu · Post by **afausu** » March 17th, 2024, 8:20 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 8:06 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 4:35 pm
TCU is a game we CAN win. If we are really good enough to be a 5 or 6 seed, we should be able to beat TCU.
Yep. Tcu is more winnable than many of the games they had us lined up against in the projections. We have a winnable game, let's go win it

Said that last year, too. And the time before that, and the time before that. Hope springs eternal, I suppose.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » March 17th, 2024, 8:28 pm

afausu wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 8:20 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 8:06 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 4:35 pm
TCU is a game we CAN win. If we are really good enough to be a 5 or 6 seed, we should be able to beat TCU.
Yep. Tcu is more winnable than many of the games they had us lined up against in the projections. We have a winnable game, let's go win it
Said that last year, too. And the time before that, and the time before that. Hope springs eternal, I suppose.

I certainly didn't. Washington was a terrible matchup for us and I didn't fully believe in the 21 or 23 teams(and they had double digit seeds).

JFW_AGGIES · Post by **JFW_AGGIES** » March 17th, 2024, 8:33 pm

TCU is a very beatable team, we need to box out and rebound, and not turn the ball over though. Should be a fun, tough and physical game!!

dogie · Post by **dogie** » March 17th, 2024, 8:35 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.

The reason that ESPN analytics favor TCU so strongly is that the ESPN BPI formula expressly penalizes teams that play at high elevation. The reasoning is that playing at a high elevation gives those teams an advantage for reasons other than being a better basketball team.

The BPI is one of the factors considered by the NCAA selection committee.

MetsJetsAggies · Post by **MetsJetsAggies** » March 17th, 2024, 8:48 pm

Every beatable team turns into the 1991 UNLV Runnin Rebels against us in the tournament, I expect no less of TCU…who then proceeds to lose in the 2nd round to Montana State

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » March 17th, 2024, 8:55 pm

MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 8:48 pm
Every beatable team turns into the 1991 UNLV Runnin Rebels against us in the tournament, I expect no less of TCU…who then proceeds to lose in the 2nd round to Montana State

Different coach and different group of guys. These guys are going to get it done

SpectrumMagic · Post by **SpectrumMagic** » March 17th, 2024, 8:59 pm

dogie wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 8:35 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.
The reason that ESPN analytics favor TCU so strongly is that the ESPN BPI formula expressly penalizes teams that play at high elevation. The reasoning is that playing at a high elevation gives those teams an advantage for reasons other than being a better basketball team.

The BPI is one of the factors considered by the NCAA selection committee.

Wouldn’t that affect the other MW teams numbers though? They were all much closer.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » March 17th, 2024, 11:02 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:55 pm

AggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:53 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.
Makes sense. Why would anyone favor us? We haven’t proved anything when the lights turn on. We could ask TCU if they will play this game in The Spectrum?
This is why people call you a troll.

I have my complaints about this fair-weather-fan, but I'm pretty much 100% in on this.

Frankly, the team was better early season. We started meshing as a team after we got a few games in, but we hadn't settled on a routine. We wrecked other teams. Then we settled into the usual deal and often barely scraped by in games we should have dominated. Maybe it was just because other teams had more tape. Maybe because we just dink around outside and try to pass to Great now. Idk. But the Aggies team that plowed through the entire Cayman Islands Classic would not have gone into OT with Fresno State in the Mountain West tourney.

CedarAg · Post by **CedarAg** » March 17th, 2024, 11:15 pm

Just Win Baby!!!!!!!!!!
Shut Them Up!!!

PIGSKINAGGIE · Post by **PIGSKINAGGIE** » March 17th, 2024, 11:18 pm

This team needs to have a chip on their shoulder and play for 40 minutes like they did the first 14 minutes against sds. They’re certainly capable but will they? Limit offensive rebounds and make some shots and we have a good chance. Need to get back to playing defense and rebounding like we were earlier in the season and make a good run in the tournament.

Blue Sage · Post by **Blue Sage** » March 18th, 2024, 12:14 am

blueaggie wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 4:49 pm

MahlerFan1 wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 4:32 pm

HomeTown wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 4:29 pm
SDSU, the 5th best team in the MWC and they get a 5 seed. Doesn't make any sense.
Well...they weren't 5th best on Friday. Face it, we crapped the bed in that game and reaped the consequences. At least those consequences aren't like they were with the CSUN loss in 2004.
They had the seeds determined well before Friday.

SDSU lost to the #6or7 team in the MWC and was rewarded with a #5? They didn’t win anything the tourney or the season. Doesn’t make sense.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » March 18th, 2024, 8:50 am

SDSU and CSU are the only teams that didn't pick up road wins against the other 7 MWC top teams. They also lost on their home floors once each. SDSU had some good wins OOC, but they weren't a dominant force away from home. They also benefitted from a large crowd in Vegas. A #5 seed just seems really out of whack when considering the seeding of the rest of the MWC.

Post by **ProvoAggie** » March 18th, 2024, 8:58 am

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 8:59 pm

dogie wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 8:35 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.
The reason that ESPN analytics favor TCU so strongly is that the ESPN BPI formula expressly penalizes teams that play at high elevation. The reasoning is that playing at a high elevation gives those teams an advantage for reasons other than being a better basketball team.

The BPI is one of the factors considered by the NCAA selection committee.

Wouldn’t that affect the other MW teams numbers though? They were all much closer.

It affects almost everyone in the MW:

StanfordAggie · Post by **StanfordAggie** » March 18th, 2024, 9:15 am

Blue Sage wrote: ↑
March 18th, 2024, 12:14 am

blueaggie wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 4:49 pm

MahlerFan1 wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 4:32 pm

HomeTown wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 4:29 pm
SDSU, the 5th best team in the MWC and they get a 5 seed. Doesn't make any sense.
Well...they weren't 5th best on Friday. Face it, we crapped the bed in that game and reaped the consequences. At least those consequences aren't like they were with the CSUN loss in 2004.
They had the seeds determined well before Friday.
SDSU lost to the #6or7 team in the MWC and was rewarded with a #5? They didn’t win anything the tourney or the season. Doesn’t make sense.

The stated reason for the bad seeds for the MWC was that, with the exception of SDSU, the top MWC teams didn't have any quality OOC wins. All of our quality wins were against each other. I guess Boise's win over St. Mary's and Nevada's win over TCU and both CSU and UNLV's wins over Creighton don't count. Or (more likely) the committee is simply dumb and biased against the MWC. Why is the MWC being punished for lack of quality OOC wins but not the Big 12? In any event, SDSU's OOC wins over St. Mary's and Gonzaga were the justification for seeding them higher. I'm not saying I agree, but that was the reason given.

Blue Sage · Post by **Blue Sage** » March 18th, 2024, 9:52 am

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 11:02 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:55 pm

AggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:53 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.
Makes sense. Why would anyone favor us? We haven’t proved anything when the lights turn on. We could ask TCU if they will play this game in The Spectrum?
This is why people call you a troll.
I have my complaints about this fair-weather-fan, but I'm pretty much 100% in on this.

Frankly, the team was better early season. We started meshing as a team after we got a few games in, but we hadn't settled on a routine. We wrecked other teams. Then we settled into the usual deal and often barely scraped by in games we should have dominated. Maybe it was just because other teams had more tape. Maybe because we just dink around outside and try to pass to Great now. Idk. But the Aggies team that plowed through the entire Cayman Islands Classic would not have gone into OT with Fresno State in the Mountain West tourney.

Gotta say, you've got some solid points, but we can't overlook the competition we faced. #7 Fresno not only showed up but also took home the MWC Tournament title, highlighting just how fierce the league was this year. Clinching the regular season title? That's no small feat in such a tough leauge. It's clear, that the days of easy wins are no longer in the MWC. And talking game plan, yeah, we're not about those massive blowouts, especially not the 'live and die by the 3' approach we've seen from Odom in the past. We're all about that steady grind to bag the win.
These days, it seems like the 'eye test' is king. But hey, I'm from the era where wins were the gold standard. I know, sounds like I'm from the dinosaur age, right? Back then, there was one trophy, one winner, and everyone else second best and so on down the line. Now, take SDSU – didn't clinch anything in the MWC season but a #5 spot and lost to #7 in the MWC tourney, yet they snag a #5 seed in the NC2A's??? Seems winning isn't as valued as it used to be. Might as well hand out trophies left and right, special nods like Gonzaga getting a #5 for what feels like showing up. Looks like you might be hinting at the same vibe needing to blow certain teams out for eye test purposes, and honestly, I can't disagree. It's just the way the game is played these days. Being #1 can easily be overshadowed by the 'all-seeing eye test' whenever the college basketball gods (a.k.a. the press) don't get the storyline they're after. So, does it matter if you do win the championship in your conference that has 6 teams go to said tourney? I think the answer I heard from the NCAA committee is a clear no. Again, does it matter if you don’t win your conference in any way and lose to the #7 team in the Conference tourney again the answer depends on ‘if we like you anything is possible'.

Aggie702 · Post by **Aggie702** » March 18th, 2024, 11:13 am

Committee did us a huge favor. They slotted us into the second to last game of the first round on Friday night. We are guaranteed to make the final 36 baby! Hang the banner.

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » March 18th, 2024, 11:50 am

Blue Sage wrote: ↑
March 18th, 2024, 9:52 am

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 11:02 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:55 pm

AggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:53 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.
Makes sense. Why would anyone favor us? We haven’t proved anything when the lights turn on. We could ask TCU if they will play this game in The Spectrum?
This is why people call you a troll.
I have my complaints about this fair-weather-fan, but I'm pretty much 100% in on this.

Frankly, the team was better early season. We started meshing as a team after we got a few games in, but we hadn't settled on a routine. We wrecked other teams. Then we settled into the usual deal and often barely scraped by in games we should have dominated. Maybe it was just because other teams had more tape. Maybe because we just dink around outside and try to pass to Great now. Idk. But the Aggies team that plowed through the entire Cayman Islands Classic would not have gone into OT with Fresno State in the Mountain West tourney.
Gotta say, you've got some solid points, but we can't overlook the competition we faced. #7 Fresno not only showed up but also took home the MWC Tournament title, highlighting just how fierce the league was this year. Clinching the regular season title? That's no small feat in such a tough leauge. It's clear, that the days of easy wins are no longer in the MWC. And talking game plan, yeah, we're not about those massive blowouts, especially not the 'live and die by the 3' approach we've seen from Odom in the past. We're all about that steady grind to bag the win.
These days, it seems like the 'eye test' is king. But hey, I'm from the era where wins were the gold standard. I know, sounds like I'm from the dinosaur age, right? Back then, there was one trophy, one winner, and everyone else second best and so on down the line. Now, take SDSU – didn't clinch anything in the MWC season but a #5 spot and lost to #7 in the MWC tourney, yet they snag a #5 seed in the NC2A's??? Seems winning isn't as valued as it used to be. Might as well hand out trophies left and right, special nods like Gonzaga getting a #5 for what feels like showing up. Looks like you might be hinting at the same vibe needing to blow certain teams out for eye test purposes, and honestly, I can't disagree. It's just the way the game is played these days. Being #1 can easily be overshadowed by the 'all-seeing eye test' whenever the college basketball gods (a.k.a. the press) don't get the storyline they're after. So, does it matter if you do win the championship in your conference that has 6 teams go to said tourney? I think the answer I heard from the NCAA committee is a clear no. Again, does it matter if you don’t win your conference in any way and lose to the #7 team in the Conference tourney again the answer depends on ‘if we like you anything is possible'.

So, I wasn't talking about seeding, the NCAA tournament, NET, RUTS, etc. I was just mentioning that we haven't been performing up to our potential. Also, Fresno was #9, and they didn't win the MW tournament. The winner of MW tournament was UNM, who was #6, not #7.

Are you okay?

Blue Sage · Post by **Blue Sage** » March 18th, 2024, 2:58 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
March 18th, 2024, 11:50 am

Blue Sage wrote: ↑
March 18th, 2024, 9:52 am

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 11:02 pm

cval wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:55 pm

AggieIceCream05 wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:53 pm

SpectrumMagic wrote: ↑
March 17th, 2024, 7:42 pm
ESPN analytics has this 71.8% in favor of TCU. MOST OF THE 8/9 matchups are closer to 50/50.
Makes sense. Why would anyone favor us? We haven’t proved anything when the lights turn on. We could ask TCU if they will play this game in The Spectrum?
This is why people call you a troll.
I have my complaints about this fair-weather-fan, but I'm pretty much 100% in on this.

Frankly, the team was better early season. We started meshing as a team after we got a few games in, but we hadn't settled on a routine. We wrecked other teams. Then we settled into the usual deal and often barely scraped by in games we should have dominated. Maybe it was just because other teams had more tape. Maybe because we just dink around outside and try to pass to Great now. Idk. But the Aggies team that plowed through the entire Cayman Islands Classic would not have gone into OT with Fresno State in the Mountain West tourney.
Gotta say, you've got some solid points, but we can't overlook the competition we faced. #7 Fresno not only showed up but also took home the MWC Tournament title, highlighting just how fierce the league was this year. Clinching the regular season title? That's no small feat in such a tough leauge. It's clear, that the days of easy wins are no longer in the MWC. And talking game plan, yeah, we're not about those massive blowouts, especially not the 'live and die by the 3' approach we've seen from Odom in the past. We're all about that steady grind to bag the win.
These days, it seems like the 'eye test' is king. But hey, I'm from the era where wins were the gold standard. I know, sounds like I'm from the dinosaur age, right? Back then, there was one trophy, one winner, and everyone else second best and so on down the line. Now, take SDSU – didn't clinch anything in the MWC season but a #5 spot and lost to #7 in the MWC tourney, yet they snag a #5 seed in the NC2A's??? Seems winning isn't as valued as it used to be. Might as well hand out trophies left and right, special nods like Gonzaga getting a #5 for what feels like showing up. Looks like you might be hinting at the same vibe needing to blow certain teams out for eye test purposes, and honestly, I can't disagree. It's just the way the game is played these days. Being #1 can easily be overshadowed by the 'all-seeing eye test' whenever the college basketball gods (a.k.a. the press) don't get the storyline they're after. So, does it matter if you do win the championship in your conference that has 6 teams go to said tourney? I think the answer I heard from the NCAA committee is a clear no. Again, does it matter if you don’t win your conference in any way and lose to the #7 team in the Conference tourney again the answer depends on ‘if we like you anything is possible'.
So, I wasn't talking about seeding, the NCAA tournament, NET, RUTS, etc. I was just mentioning that we haven't been performing up to our potential. Also, Fresno was #9, and they didn't win the MW tournament. The winner of MW tournament was UNM, who was #6, not #7.

Are you okay?

You seem to have a burr under your saddle? Why the nastiness again?

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » March 18th, 2024, 4:05 pm

Blue Sage wrote: ↑
March 18th, 2024, 2:58 pm
You seem to have a burr under your saddle? Why the nastiness again?

Not my intent, I apologize. I just got so confused by what you were saying and had to repeatedly check back on the MW tourney page to make sure I wasn't going crazy.

Blue Sage · Post by **Blue Sage** » March 18th, 2024, 4:35 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑
March 18th, 2024, 4:05 pm

Blue Sage wrote: ↑
March 18th, 2024, 2:58 pm
You seem to have a burr under your saddle? Why the nastiness again?
Not my intent, I apologize. I just got so confused by what you were saying and had to repeatedly check back on the MW tourney page to make sure I wasn't going crazy.

Gotcha my bad, yeah I totally meant to write New Mexico and have no idea why I wrote Fresno. Just me going crazy bro!

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