Hear me out here, but why not go after someone like Larry Kristoviak. Yes, he was let go at Utah but I think that's more due to the program's systemic problems than due to his inability to get the job done. Perhaps we would take the job as a final stop in his coaching career... he actually seems like a good fit culturally. Not sure whether he is looking to get back into the game any time soon, but he could reunite with Andy Hill. Maybe what we need to do is hire a veteran coach who could view this as his final stop in his career and get us out of the coaching carousel business.

Thoughts? What other outside-the-box candidates would fit this older coach approach? It worked with Stew, who else could be a Stew-type hire?

If by "outside the box" you mean "horrible", yes, this is an outside the box idea.

shoresy wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

If by "outside the box" you mean "horrible", yes, this is an outside the box idea.

What's horrible about it? Your response adds no insight or value. Please expound on your opinion.

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

If by "outside the box" you mean "horrible", yes, this is an outside the box idea.

What's horrible about it? Your response adds no insight or value. Please expound on your opinion.

So, we could hire a young, up and coming coach who is ambitious and follows the formula of success that has worked here, or we could hire a 59-year-old who hasn't coached a game or worked in three full years after being fired from his last job for missing the NCAA Tournament five-straight years?

Yes, horrible.

shoresy wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:35 pm

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

If by "outside the box" you mean "horrible", yes, this is an outside the box idea.

What's horrible about it? Your response adds no insight or value. Please expound on your opinion.

So, we could hire a young, up and coming coach who is ambitious and follows the formula of success that has worked here, or we could hire a 59-year-old who hasn't coached a game or worked in three full years after being fired from his last job for missing the NCAA Tournament five-straight years?

Yes, horrible.

LOL, okay fair enough - I appreciate the additional rationale to explain why you believe it's a horrible idea.

Anybody>Larry

He has Montana roots, and that seems to be a winning formula. The spirit of Wayne would bless us for going with Larry K.

Krystko squandered a lot of talent at Utah. Seemed like kind of an A-hole as well.

My outside the box hire would be Steve Nash. just because he's my goat NBA PG.

Am I doing this right?

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Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

If by "outside the box" you mean "horrible", yes, this is an outside the box idea.

What's horrible about it? Your response adds no insight or value. Please expound on your opinion.

Former Utah star Kyle Kuzma received at least $9,500 while in school, according to the documents.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-fede ... 38484.html

The Utah men’s basketball program was hit with two years of probation and associate head coach Tommy Connor was given a one-year show-cause penalty as a result of recruiting violations that were committed in the spring of 2018.

https://www.nbcsports.com/college-baske ... violations

And of course, don't forget about David Collette or the times he tried to poach Stew's recruits. And despite all of his shady behavior, he still managed only two NCAA appearances in ten seasons. I remember something that a Miami fan wrote on their message board during the whole Shapiro scandal. Something to the effect of: "If you play fair and lose, that is honorable. If you cheat and win, that is understandable. But if you cheat and still lose season after season, that is absolutely unacceptable and totally inexcusable." That seems relevant here.

If you're going to go outside the box, I liked one name on the list of possible WSU hires. Gentlemen and Ladies let me present to you the new and improved Bob Huggins. Exciting style of play. Loves to badger referees. And is working diligently on his rehab. What better place than Logan, Utah for a man in his position.

Ok...I'm not serious, but just the thought of having Hug patrol the sidelines at the Spectrum gives me a bit of a warm fuzzy feeling.

Bank Shot wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:40 pm

If you're going to go outside the box, I liked one name on the list of possible WSU hires. Gentlemen and Ladies let me present to you the new and improved Bob Huggins. Exciting style of play. Loves to badger referees. And is working diligently on his rehab. What better place than Logan, Utah for a man in his position.

Ok...I'm not serious, but just the thought of having Hug patrol the sidelines at the Spectrum gives me a bit of a warm fuzzy feeling.

There are no bars in Logan. How is he gonna mess up?

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:38 pm

Anybody>Larry

Thanks for proving ViAggie hasn’t paid you yet.

Bank Shot wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:40 pm

If you're going to go outside the box, I liked one name on the list of possible WSU hires. Gentlemen and Ladies let me present to you the new and improved Bob Huggins. Exciting style of play. Loves to badger referees. And is working diligently on his rehab. What better place than Logan, Utah for a man in his position.

Ok...I'm not serious, but just the thought of having Hug patrol the sidelines at the Spectrum gives me a bit of a warm fuzzy feeling.

Love this idea. Get Huggy Bear in Logan... also it seems hires like this would give us a little boost of national attention, which is always welcomed, and maybe some favorable bias for once from the selection committee at some point.

Buy out Coach Popavich, He’s got a center with 4 years of college eligibility left!


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ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:42 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:40 pm

If you're going to go outside the box, I liked one name on the list of possible WSU hires. Gentlemen and Ladies let me present to you the new and improved Bob Huggins. Exciting style of play. Loves to badger referees. And is working diligently on his rehab. What better place than Logan, Utah for a man in his position.

Ok...I'm not serious, but just the thought of having Hug patrol the sidelines at the Spectrum gives me a bit of a warm fuzzy feeling.

There are no bars in Logan. How is he gonna mess up?

Honestly, if Huggins wanted to get back into coaching and would consider USU, I would support that provided that there was a very strict morality clause in his contract. The guy is a piece of human garbage, but he has won like crazy at every stop in his career.

Even though college degrees are no longer a point of emphasis (it appears), it still bothers me that when they were supposed to matter Huggins was let go from Cincinnati when the new president discovered that in his 10(?) years as the coach the team had not a single degree among its players.

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:39 pm

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

If by "outside the box" you mean "horrible", yes, this is an outside the box idea.

What's horrible about it? Your response adds no insight or value. Please expound on your opinion.

Former Utah star Kyle Kuzma received at least $9,500 while in school, according to the documents.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-fede ... 38484.html

The Utah men’s basketball program was hit with two years of probation and associate head coach Tommy Connor was given a one-year show-cause penalty as a result of recruiting violations that were committed in the spring of 2018.

https://www.nbcsports.com/college-baske ... violations

And of course, don't forget about David Collette or the times he tried to poach Stew's recruits. And despite all of his shady behavior, he still managed only two NCAA appearances in ten seasons. I remember something that a Miami fan wrote on their message board during the whole Shapiro scandal. Something to the effect of: "If you play fair and lose, that is honorable. If you cheat and win, that is understandable. But if you cheat and still lose season after season, that is absolutely unacceptable and totally inexcusable." That seems relevant here.

My counter to this would be that all of this is allowed now, so Larry K just needs to get back in the game somewhere that he can now do these things legally. Plus, we would get the added bonus of him being extra motivated to establish USU as clearly being the strongest program in the state, ahead of his former employer.

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:49 pm

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:39 pm

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

If by "outside the box" you mean "horrible", yes, this is an outside the box idea.

What's horrible about it? Your response adds no insight or value. Please expound on your opinion.

Former Utah star Kyle Kuzma received at least $9,500 while in school, according to the documents.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-fede ... 38484.html

The Utah men’s basketball program was hit with two years of probation and associate head coach Tommy Connor was given a one-year show-cause penalty as a result of recruiting violations that were committed in the spring of 2018.

https://www.nbcsports.com/college-baske ... violations

And of course, don't forget about David Collette or the times he tried to poach Stew's recruits. And despite all of his shady behavior, he still managed only two NCAA appearances in ten seasons. I remember something that a Miami fan wrote on their message board during the whole Shapiro scandal. Something to the effect of: "If you play fair and lose, that is honorable. If you cheat and win, that is understandable. But if you cheat and still lose season after season, that is absolutely unacceptable and totally inexcusable." That seems relevant here.

My counter to this would be that all of this is allowed now, so Larry K just needs to get back in the game somewhere that he can now do these things legally. Plus, we would get the added bonus of him being extra motivated to establish USU as clearly being the strongest program in the state, ahead of his former employer.

Did you miss the part where he sucked despite cheating? If he couldn't win when he was cheating to give himself an extra advantage, how is he going to win when everyone else has these extra advantages?

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:51 pm

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:49 pm

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:39 pm

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

If by "outside the box" you mean "horrible", yes, this is an outside the box idea.

What's horrible about it? Your response adds no insight or value. Please expound on your opinion.

Former Utah star Kyle Kuzma received at least $9,500 while in school, according to the documents.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-fede ... 38484.html

The Utah men’s basketball program was hit with two years of probation and associate head coach Tommy Connor was given a one-year show-cause penalty as a result of recruiting violations that were committed in the spring of 2018.

https://www.nbcsports.com/college-baske ... violations

And of course, don't forget about David Collette or the times he tried to poach Stew's recruits. And despite all of his shady behavior, he still managed only two NCAA appearances in ten seasons. I remember something that a Miami fan wrote on their message board during the whole Shapiro scandal. Something to the effect of: "If you play fair and lose, that is honorable. If you cheat and win, that is understandable. But if you cheat and still lose season after season, that is absolutely unacceptable and totally inexcusable." That seems relevant here.

My counter to this would be that all of this is allowed now, so Larry K just needs to get back in the game somewhere that he can now do these things legally. Plus, we would get the added bonus of him being extra motivated to establish USU as clearly being the strongest program in the state, ahead of his former employer.

Did you miss the part where he sucked despite cheating? If he couldn't win when he was cheating to give himself an extra advantage, how is he going to win when everyone else has these extra advantages?

He was at Utah. Not even the ghost of Red Aurbach could win with the horrible fan support and institutional dumpster fire that is U of U basketball.

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:54 pm

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:51 pm

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:49 pm

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:39 pm

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

If by "outside the box" you mean "horrible", yes, this is an outside the box idea.

What's horrible about it? Your response adds no insight or value. Please expound on your opinion.

Former Utah star Kyle Kuzma received at least $9,500 while in school, according to the documents.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-fede ... 38484.html

The Utah men’s basketball program was hit with two years of probation and associate head coach Tommy Connor was given a one-year show-cause penalty as a result of recruiting violations that were committed in the spring of 2018.

https://www.nbcsports.com/college-baske ... violations

And of course, don't forget about David Collette or the times he tried to poach Stew's recruits. And despite all of his shady behavior, he still managed only two NCAA appearances in ten seasons. I remember something that a Miami fan wrote on their message board during the whole Shapiro scandal. Something to the effect of: "If you play fair and lose, that is honorable. If you cheat and win, that is understandable. But if you cheat and still lose season after season, that is absolutely unacceptable and totally inexcusable." That seems relevant here.

My counter to this would be that all of this is allowed now, so Larry K just needs to get back in the game somewhere that he can now do these things legally. Plus, we would get the added bonus of him being extra motivated to establish USU as clearly being the strongest program in the state, ahead of his former employer.

Did you miss the part where he sucked despite cheating? If he couldn't win when he was cheating to give himself an extra advantage, how is he going to win when everyone else has these extra advantages?

He was at Utah. Not even the ghost of Red Aurbach could win with the horrible fan support and institutional dumpster fire that is U of U basketball.

Rick Majerus clearly didn't get the memo. But more importantly, what has Krystkowiak ever accomplished that makes you think he has potential to be a good coach? Two NCAA appearances at Montana 20 years ago when he didn't even win the regular season Big Sky title? I'm a little bewildered that you seem to be so enamored with a coach that is not only a scumbag, but also hasn't had any success as a head coach in the past 20 years.

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:59 pm

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:54 pm

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:51 pm

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:49 pm

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:39 pm

Rabidchild wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

shoresy wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:31 pm

If by "outside the box" you mean "horrible", yes, this is an outside the box idea.

What's horrible about it? Your response adds no insight or value. Please expound on your opinion.

Former Utah star Kyle Kuzma received at least $9,500 while in school, according to the documents.

https://sports.yahoo.com/exclusive-fede ... 38484.html

The Utah men’s basketball program was hit with two years of probation and associate head coach Tommy Connor was given a one-year show-cause penalty as a result of recruiting violations that were committed in the spring of 2018.

https://www.nbcsports.com/college-baske ... violations

And of course, don't forget about David Collette or the times he tried to poach Stew's recruits. And despite all of his shady behavior, he still managed only two NCAA appearances in ten seasons. I remember something that a Miami fan wrote on their message board during the whole Shapiro scandal. Something to the effect of: "If you play fair and lose, that is honorable. If you cheat and win, that is understandable. But if you cheat and still lose season after season, that is absolutely unacceptable and totally inexcusable." That seems relevant here.

My counter to this would be that all of this is allowed now, so Larry K just needs to get back in the game somewhere that he can now do these things legally. Plus, we would get the added bonus of him being extra motivated to establish USU as clearly being the strongest program in the state, ahead of his former employer.

Did you miss the part where he sucked despite cheating? If he couldn't win when he was cheating to give himself an extra advantage, how is he going to win when everyone else has these extra advantages?

He was at Utah. Not even the ghost of Red Aurbach could win with the horrible fan support and institutional dumpster fire that is U of U basketball.

Rick Majerus clearly didn't get the memo. But more importantly, what has Krystkowiak ever accomplished that makes you think he has potential to be a good coach? Two NCAA appearances at Montana 20 years ago when he didn't even win the regular season Big Sky title? I'm a little bewildered that you seem to be so enamored with a coach that is not only a scumbag, but also hasn't had any success as a head coach in the past 20 years.

That was the 90s when the U of U had completely different leadership and a fantastic program. They're really fallen off since then, my friend. The dumpster fire comment is clearly in reference to the post-Fat Man era.

I am not advocating for Larry K, nor am I enamored by him, simply throwing it out there. You have made good arguments against considering him as our next coach. Another argument in favor that I have not yet mentioned: have you ever seen the way he would burn ropes pre-game to summon good energy and focus among his players? Together with the Montana ties and Estes Energy, Larry K could really summon up some magic in Logan.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/spor ... -nice.html

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:42 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 6:40 pm

If you're going to go outside the box, I liked one name on the list of possible WSU hires. Gentlemen and Ladies let me present to you the new and improved Bob Huggins. Exciting style of play. Loves to badger referees. And is working diligently on his rehab. What better place than Logan, Utah for a man in his position.

Ok...I'm not serious, but just the thought of having Hug patrol the sidelines at the Spectrum gives me a bit of a warm fuzzy feeling.

There are no bars in Logan. How is he gonna mess up?

Pugmire found a way.

Let's not forget that our worst football coach ever was also from Montana, so I don't think saying you are from Montana is the magic potion.

Coloraggie wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 8:23 pm

Let's not forget that our worst football coach ever was also from Montana, so I don't think saying you are from Montana is the magic potion.

The Montana connection obviously doesn't apply to football. In fact, this just proves that the Wayne Estes spirit/energy connection with basketball is REAL.

Coloraggie wrote:Let's not forget that our worst football coach ever was also from Montana, so I don't think saying you are from Montana is the magic potion.

Dave Arslanian would like a word with you

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He would be a disaster. His players hated him which is they had 6-7 guys leave the team every year before the portal was even conceived. Tommy Connor did a ton of heavy lifting recruiting. Boosters hated him too. There is also some personal baggage stuff there that may make him a bad fit/unproductive. Nothing too serious but not nothing either. Hard hard hard pass.

The only way you’re keeping players and enticing them to come play at USU is probably with a likable players coach IMO. Finding one who can coach and has assistants with recruiting ties is tough, but an old hard (I can't express myself without swearing) won’t work out here in todays game

Donman wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 11:54 pm

Coloraggie wrote:Let's not forget that our worst football coach ever was also from Montana, so I don't think saying you are from Montana is the magic potion.

Dave Arslanian would like a word with you

As would Chris Pella.

I was expecting the outside the box suggestion would be to give Duryea another crack at the head coaching job or poach Craig Neal from the Nevada staff.

USU78 wrote: ↑

March 26th, 2024, 8:11 am

Donman wrote: ↑

March 25th, 2024, 11:54 pm

Coloraggie wrote:Let's not forget that our worst football coach ever was also from Montana, so I don't think saying you are from Montana is the magic potion.

Dave Arslanian would like a word with you

As would Chris Pella.

At Brent Guy's home office.