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Look, I dislike diversity for the sole sake of diversity as much as others. I have to roll my eyes in the work place at times. But if you listen to her interview, the reason behind the 'diversity' here makes complete sense. I didn't take it as a woke world type of answer. My quick typing in the moment probably didn't reflect that well.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pm1 and 2 are fine 3 and 4 are part of a myriad of reasons that I become less and less able to relate to modern NCAA athletics. I know we can't have an old school coach in the NIL no rules era. I know that we have to bow down to the god of woke to keep the team from uprising. Everything she said was correct. It doesn't get me any more excited for next year nor does it make me want to put down any investment toward it. If it sounds like get off my lawn I guess that's what it probably is.ImportAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:56 pmI loved this answer. This rest was what you’d expect.AggiePharm wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmPillars in finding a new coach
1. MW style of offense and defense
2. Get to the tournament and not be an 8 seed
3. What student athletes need in a modern coach (roster preservation and community involvement) to sustain winning
4. Look at diversity and try to have a coaching staff that mirrors their roster makeup
Doesn’t sound like we’re getting an announcement anytime soon.
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I took that to mean on the women’s side, not the men’s, since that’s what they were talking about at the time. Could be wrong but that’s how I interpreted it.newhouse9 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:00 pmShe mentioned also that some of their candidates are still coaching in the tournament. That certainly can slow things down.QuackAttackAggie wrote:Q: give me a birds eye view. Are you impressed or surprised by the candidates?
A: I didn't come here just to be good. We are going to be great. We want to be top 3 in the mwc in everything we do. Both programs must have a coach that helps student athletes succeed, will win, and will fill the spectrum. Pool is great even in women's where in the past the pool was not strong. My phone on Tuesday was literally full from voicemails and texts.
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It's a philosophical question - what is the role/mission of the university? Is it to be everything to everybody - a true melting pot of diverse ideas from all parts of the country and world? Or is it to educate the people of the state/ region and prepare them to enter the workforce in the state/country/world?QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:04 pm100%. USU would be a better university if it attracted more students of different races/religions/backgrounds.Yossarian wrote:Should that philosophy not extend to the student body too? And the town of Logan? If you want a coach to feel rooted in the community, that coach will need a community that looks and thinks like him/ her and has similar life experiences. And the players don't just interact with the coaches, they interact with their fellow students. It seems to me that if USU wants to recruit a particular person for their athletic teams, they need to be recruiting similar people to the university.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:46 pmAs she was listing out various factors they’re looking for in a coach she said one of those was a coach that had a diverse coaching staff to match the diversity of rosters in this sport, which we didn’t really have before.SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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I’m sure that is player feedback and is spot on and a good thing to do at usu.
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Similarly, what is the role of the athletics department? Is it to represent the school in inter-scholastic competition? Or is it to generate money?
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Must be an assistant from one (or several) of those.VegasBornAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:06 pmIn that case with her mentioning the women's position and us interviewing somebody who is still playing this weekend. We are interviewing somebody for the women's position from one of these teams; South Carolina, Indiana, Oregon St, Notre Dame, Iowa, Colorado, LSU, UCLA, Texas, Gonzaga, NC State, Stanford, USC, Baylor, UCONN, and Duke.
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YesYossarian wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:12 pmIt's a philosophical question - what is the role/mission of the university? Is it to be everything to everybody - a true melting pot of diverse ideas from all parts of the country and world? Or is it to educate the people of the state/ region and prepare them to enter the workforce in the state/country/world?QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:04 pm100%. USU would be a better university if it attracted more students of different races/religions/backgrounds.Yossarian wrote:Should that philosophy not extend to the student body too? And the town of Logan? If you want a coach to feel rooted in the community, that coach will need a community that looks and thinks like him/ her and has similar life experiences. And the players don't just interact with the coaches, they interact with their fellow students. It seems to me that if USU wants to recruit a particular person for their athletic teams, they need to be recruiting similar people to the university.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:46 pmAs she was listing out various factors they’re looking for in a coach she said one of those was a coach that had a diverse coaching staff to match the diversity of rosters in this sport, which we didn’t really have before.SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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I’m sure that is player feedback and is spot on and a good thing to do at usu.
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Similarly, what is the role of the athletics department? Is it to represent the school in inter-scholastic competition? Or is it to generate money?
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Hmmm, she is having fun with everyone on this statement...will be much sooner than that.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:45 pmTimeline: hoping early next week middle of the week to make announcements that make logan proud and carry the state media for a bit. Again emphasized they are trying to retain the roster.
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I'm curious to get others opinions on this, based on the interview and her comments, I don't feel like the majority of the candidates we've discussed on the board fit what she/USU is looking for.
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I’d love to believe this but with this weeks events,splintorb wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:16 pmHmmm, she is having fun with everyone on this statement...will be much sooner than that.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:45 pmTimeline: hoping early next week middle of the week to make announcements that make logan proud and carry the state media for a bit. Again emphasized they are trying to retain the roster.
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I’m expecting next Friday and hoping to be surprised
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I absolutely understand we got to get the right color and coaching on a modern staff in the NIL no transfer era. Doesn't mean I'm still not old school and it gets me less excited to watch these mercenaries play. I got the opportunity to play and player coach with a lot of kids just 5-10 years older than the current crop of college kids, and I really enjoyed it but they are still way more sensitive and flaky overall, definitely can't coach them like I was, and when you add in the college woke culture its just off-putting. It is not hard for a new coach to find top of the line minority talent and diverse recruiting backgrounds are just as necessary. If a coach didn't have any diversity on staff I would look at that just as skeptically...but I interpreted the AD's comment much differently and it stank of the kind of woke academic CYA language that is rampant (and I'll admit necessary)in today's brainwashed academic culture and coddled athletes.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pmI typed this same response out and then decided it wasn't worth the effort but I'm glad you did it hahaForever-an-aggie wrote:Well at least your username is fitting. If you are that dense that you don’t understand the importance of diversity especially in the coaching staff of a sports team then I think you are what's called a sheep.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Just doesn't make me more excited. But that's just me and I'm in the clear minority.
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Could assistants be filling some of these holes in coaches we’ve discussed? Or maybe it’s a topic of discussion during interviews, I.e what would change, how resume backs it up, etc. we do have different resources and a higher caliber of player than those we’ve discussed
Maybe there are dark horses we don’t know
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If she is interviewing assistants coaches still in the tournament, I hope they are talking to this guy:ImportAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:21 pmCould assistants be filling some of these holes in coaches we’ve discussed? Or maybe it’s a topic of discussion during interviews, I.e what would change, how resume backs it up, etc. we do have different resources and a higher caliber of player than those we’ve discussed
Maybe there are dark horses we don’t know
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College "Woke Culture" give me a breakhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:20 pmI absolutely understand we got to get the right color and coaching on a modern staff in the NIL no transfer era. Doesn't mean I'm still not old school and it gets me less excited to watch these mercenaries play. I got the opportunity to play and player coach with a lot of kids just 5-10 years older than the current crop of college kids, and I really enjoyed it but they are still way more sensitive and flaky overall, definitely can't coach them like I was, and when you add in the college woke culture its just off-putting. It is not hard for a new coach to find top of the line minority talent and diverse recruiting backgrounds are just as necessary. If a coach didn't have any diversity on staff I would look at that just as skeptically...but I interpreted the AD's comment much differently and it stank of the kind of woke academic CYA language that is rampant (and I'll admit necessary)in today's brainwashed academic culture and coddled athletes.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pmI typed this same response out and then decided it wasn't worth the effort but I'm glad you did it hahaForever-an-aggie wrote:Well at least your username is fitting. If you are that dense that you don’t understand the importance of diversity especially in the coaching staff of a sports team then I think you are what's called a sheep.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Just doesn't make me more excited. But that's just me and I'm in the clear minority.
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AggiePharm wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:08 pmLook, I dislike diversity for the sole sake of diversity as much as others. I have to roll my eyes in the work place at times. But if you listen to her interview, the reason behind the 'diversity' here makes complete sense. I didn't take it as a woke world type of answer. My quick typing in the moment probably didn't reflect that well.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pm1 and 2 are fine 3 and 4 are part of a myriad of reasons that I become less and less able to relate to modern NCAA athletics. I know we can't have an old school coach in the NIL no rules era. I know that we have to bow down to the god of woke to keep the team from uprising. Everything she said was correct. It doesn't get me any more excited for next year nor does it make me want to put down any investment toward it. If it sounds like get off my lawn I guess that's what it probably is.ImportAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:56 pmI loved this answer. This rest was what you’d expect.AggiePharm wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmPillars in finding a new coach
1. MW style of offense and defense
2. Get to the tournament and not be an 8 seed
3. What student athletes need in a modern coach (roster preservation and community involvement) to sustain winning
4. Look at diversity and try to have a coaching staff that mirrors their roster makeup
Doesn’t sound like we’re getting an announcement anytime soon.
It absolutely makes sense and I don't disagree. Not only that it is not hard at all to apply the concepts of diversity and meritocracy on a college basketball staff. Having diverse backgrounds on staff is absolutely necessary for recruiting. The fact that she felt like she had to make a statement like that though in a public setting puts the new HC if he's not a minority as to how he is supposed to hire his staff and its reflective of the type of coddled kids we have brainwashed that she has to make such a statement.
It just makes me even less interested in watching one year mercenaries compete in college or USU basketball. Two things can be true at once.
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Ha, I have a hard time believing it is any of those schools since none of them are in Ohio! Well, maybe Indiana (Indiana, Notre Dame) are close enough.VegasBornAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:06 pmIn that case with her mentioning the women's position and us interviewing somebody who is still playing this weekend. We are interviewing somebody for the women's position from one of these teams; South Carolina, Indiana, Oregon St, Notre Dame, Iowa, Colorado, LSU, UCLA, Texas, Gonzaga, NC State, Stanford, USC, Baylor, UCONN, and Duke.
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hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:29 pmAggiePharm wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:08 pmLook, I dislike diversity for the sole sake of diversity as much as others. I have to roll my eyes in the work place at times. But if you listen to her interview, the reason behind the 'diversity' here makes complete sense. I didn't take it as a woke world type of answer. My quick typing in the moment probably didn't reflect that well.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pm1 and 2 are fine 3 and 4 are part of a myriad of reasons that I become less and less able to relate to modern NCAA athletics. I know we can't have an old school coach in the NIL no rules era. I know that we have to bow down to the god of woke to keep the team from uprising. Everything she said was correct. It doesn't get me any more excited for next year nor does it make me want to put down any investment toward it. If it sounds like get off my lawn I guess that's what it probably is.ImportAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:56 pmI loved this answer. This rest was what you’d expect.AggiePharm wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmPillars in finding a new coach
1. MW style of offense and defense
2. Get to the tournament and not be an 8 seed
3. What student athletes need in a modern coach (roster preservation and community involvement) to sustain winning
4. Look at diversity and try to have a coaching staff that mirrors their roster makeup
Doesn’t sound like we’re getting an announcement anytime soon.
It absolutely makes sense and I don't disagree. Not only that it is not hard at all to apply the concepts of diversity and meritocracy on a college basketball staff together because there is a plethora of outstanding top notch minority candidates. Having diverse backgrounds on staff is absolutely necessary for recruiting. The fact that she felt like she had to make a statement like that though in a public setting puts the new HC on notice, particularly if he's not a minority, as to how he is supposed to hire his staff and its reflective of the type of coddled kids we have brainwashed that she has to make such a statement.
It just makes me even less interested in watching one year mercenaries compete in college or USU basketball. Two things can be true at once.
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LOL..I have represented people in Title 9 actions and have gotten a real education from depositions and 100's of documents on college academic culture. Woke is putting it nicely. What we are putting kids through right now is a travesty. Probably sand box stuff but you brought it up. How exactly would you describe it?SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:28 pmCollege "Woke Culture" give me a breakhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:20 pmI absolutely understand we got to get the right color and coaching on a modern staff in the NIL no transfer era. Doesn't mean I'm still not old school and it gets me less excited to watch these mercenaries play. I got the opportunity to play and player coach with a lot of kids just 5-10 years older than the current crop of college kids, and I really enjoyed it but they are still way more sensitive and flaky overall, definitely can't coach them like I was, and when you add in the college woke culture its just off-putting. It is not hard for a new coach to find top of the line minority talent and diverse recruiting backgrounds are just as necessary. If a coach didn't have any diversity on staff I would look at that just as skeptically...but I interpreted the AD's comment much differently and it stank of the kind of woke academic CYA language that is rampant (and I'll admit necessary)in today's brainwashed academic culture and coddled athletes.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pmI typed this same response out and then decided it wasn't worth the effort but I'm glad you did it hahaForever-an-aggie wrote:Well at least your username is fitting. If you are that dense that you don’t understand the importance of diversity especially in the coaching staff of a sports team then I think you are what's called a sheep.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Just doesn't make me more excited. But that's just me and I'm in the clear minority.
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So I took some time and went through each of their staff to see if any had coaching ties to the region and a few stood out. Firstly, Jordan Green from Gonzaga who was on staff at Idaho and Idaho St. Secondly, Toriano Towns who is an assistant at CU he has had stints at SUU and Boise St, but is married to the HC of CU WBB so unlikely to be him. The final one that stood out was USC's Associate HC Beth Burns who has had two stints at SDSU but is on the older side at age 66 and probably wouldn't want to leave So Cal.Coloraggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:29 pmHa, I have a hard time believing it is any of those schools since none of them are in Ohio! Well, maybe Indiana (Indiana, Notre Dame) are close enough.VegasBornAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:06 pmIn that case with her mentioning the women's position and us interviewing somebody who is still playing this weekend. We are interviewing somebody for the women's position from one of these teams; South Carolina, Indiana, Oregon St, Notre Dame, Iowa, Colorado, LSU, UCLA, Texas, Gonzaga, NC State, Stanford, USC, Baylor, UCONN, and Duke.
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It was definitely focused on the women's side, not men's.bluegrouse wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:11 pmI took that to mean on the women’s side, not the men’s, since that’s what they were talking about at the time. Could be wrong but that’s how I interpreted it.newhouse9 wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:00 pmShe mentioned also that some of their candidates are still coaching in the tournament. That certainly can slow things down.QuackAttackAggie wrote:Q: give me a birds eye view. Are you impressed or surprised by the candidates?
A: I didn't come here just to be good. We are going to be great. We want to be top 3 in the mwc in everything we do. Both programs must have a coach that helps student athletes succeed, will win, and will fill the spectrum. Pool is great even in women's where in the past the pool was not strong. My phone on Tuesday was literally full from voicemails and texts.
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Entitled white guys upset that they don't get special treatment, and a steady supply of right wing propagandahickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:37 pmLOL..I have represented people in Title 9 actions and have gotten a real education from depositions and 100's of documents on college academic culture. Woke is putting it nicely. What we are putting kids through right now is a travesty. Probably sand box stuff but you brought it up. How exactly would you describe it?SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:28 pmCollege "Woke Culture" give me a breakhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:20 pmI absolutely understand we got to get the right color and coaching on a modern staff in the NIL no transfer era. Doesn't mean I'm still not old school and it gets me less excited to watch these mercenaries play. I got the opportunity to play and player coach with a lot of kids just 5-10 years older than the current crop of college kids, and I really enjoyed it but they are still way more sensitive and flaky overall, definitely can't coach them like I was, and when you add in the college woke culture its just off-putting. It is not hard for a new coach to find top of the line minority talent and diverse recruiting backgrounds are just as necessary. If a coach didn't have any diversity on staff I would look at that just as skeptically...but I interpreted the AD's comment much differently and it stank of the kind of woke academic CYA language that is rampant (and I'll admit necessary)in today's brainwashed academic culture and coddled athletes.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pmI typed this same response out and then decided it wasn't worth the effort but I'm glad you did it hahaForever-an-aggie wrote:Well at least your username is fitting. If you are that dense that you don’t understand the importance of diversity especially in the coaching staff of a sports team then I think you are what's called a sheep.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Just doesn't make me more excited. But that's just me and I'm in the clear minority.
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Re: Sabau ghosted KSL sports zone at 1:30
lol..No nothing to do with "right wing propaganda" or "entitled white guys". That stuff is what it may have looked like 30 years ago. No more like "bat (I can't express myself without swearing) crazy" and not even in a political way.SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:41 pmEntitled white guys upset that they don't get special treatment, and a steady supply of right wing propagandahickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:37 pmLOL..I have represented people in Title 9 actions and have gotten a real education from depositions and 100's of documents on college academic culture. Woke is putting it nicely. What we are putting kids through right now is a travesty. Probably sand box stuff but you brought it up. How exactly would you describe it?SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:28 pmCollege "Woke Culture" give me a breakhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:20 pmI absolutely understand we got to get the right color and coaching on a modern staff in the NIL no transfer era. Doesn't mean I'm still not old school and it gets me less excited to watch these mercenaries play. I got the opportunity to play and player coach with a lot of kids just 5-10 years older than the current crop of college kids, and I really enjoyed it but they are still way more sensitive and flaky overall, definitely can't coach them like I was, and when you add in the college woke culture its just off-putting. It is not hard for a new coach to find top of the line minority talent and diverse recruiting backgrounds are just as necessary. If a coach didn't have any diversity on staff I would look at that just as skeptically...but I interpreted the AD's comment much differently and it stank of the kind of woke academic CYA language that is rampant (and I'll admit necessary)in today's brainwashed academic culture and coddled athletes.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pmI typed this same response out and then decided it wasn't worth the effort but I'm glad you did it hahaForever-an-aggie wrote:Well at least your username is fitting. If you are that dense that you don’t understand the importance of diversity especially in the coaching staff of a sports team then I think you are what's called a sheep.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Just doesn't make me more excited. But that's just me and I'm in the clear minority.
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Re: Sabau ghosted KSL sports zone at 1:30
lol the University has a program literally called the Koch Scholars using funding from the Libertarian Koch Brothers, I've been around the world and I can tell you Logan and Utah State is not in any way, shape or form some liberal hot bed, and that's ignoring the fact that 99.9% of people that use woke as an insult can't even define what WOKE is or why it's bad, just a buzz word for the braindeadhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:55 pmlol..No nothing to do with "right wing propaganda" or "entitled white guys". That stuff is what it may have looked like 30 years ago. No more like "bat (I can't express myself without swearing) crazy" and not even in a political way.SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:41 pmEntitled white guys upset that they don't get special treatment, and a steady supply of right wing propagandahickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:37 pmLOL..I have represented people in Title 9 actions and have gotten a real education from depositions and 100's of documents on college academic culture. Woke is putting it nicely. What we are putting kids through right now is a travesty. Probably sand box stuff but you brought it up. How exactly would you describe it?SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:28 pmCollege "Woke Culture" give me a breakhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:20 pmI absolutely understand we got to get the right color and coaching on a modern staff in the NIL no transfer era. Doesn't mean I'm still not old school and it gets me less excited to watch these mercenaries play. I got the opportunity to play and player coach with a lot of kids just 5-10 years older than the current crop of college kids, and I really enjoyed it but they are still way more sensitive and flaky overall, definitely can't coach them like I was, and when you add in the college woke culture its just off-putting. It is not hard for a new coach to find top of the line minority talent and diverse recruiting backgrounds are just as necessary. If a coach didn't have any diversity on staff I would look at that just as skeptically...but I interpreted the AD's comment much differently and it stank of the kind of woke academic CYA language that is rampant (and I'll admit necessary)in today's brainwashed academic culture and coddled athletes.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pmI typed this same response out and then decided it wasn't worth the effort but I'm glad you did it hahaForever-an-aggie wrote:Well at least your username is fitting. If you are that dense that you don’t understand the importance of diversity especially in the coaching staff of a sports team then I think you are what's called a sheep.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Just doesn't make me more excited. But that's just me and I'm in the clear minority.
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Re: Sabau ghosted KSL sports zone at 1:30
My sources have let me know she does
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Re: Sabau ghosted KSL sports zone at 1:30
Woke means hiring someone specifically due to their skin color while simultaneously repeating racist tropes about white people being privileged.SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:58 pmlol the University has a program literally called the Koch Scholars using funding from the Libertarian Koch Brothers, I've been around the world and I can tell you Logan and Utah State is not in any way, shape or form some liberal hot bed, and that's ignoring the fact that 99.9% of people that use woke as an insult can't even define what WOKE is or why it's bad, just a buzz word for the braindeadhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:55 pmlol..No nothing to do with "right wing propaganda" or "entitled white guys". That stuff is what it may have looked like 30 years ago. No more like "bat (I can't express myself without swearing) crazy" and not even in a political way.SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:41 pmEntitled white guys upset that they don't get special treatment, and a steady supply of right wing propagandahickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:37 pmLOL..I have represented people in Title 9 actions and have gotten a real education from depositions and 100's of documents on college academic culture. Woke is putting it nicely. What we are putting kids through right now is a travesty. Probably sand box stuff but you brought it up. How exactly would you describe it?SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:28 pmCollege "Woke Culture" give me a breakhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:20 pmI absolutely understand we got to get the right color and coaching on a modern staff in the NIL no transfer era. Doesn't mean I'm still not old school and it gets me less excited to watch these mercenaries play. I got the opportunity to play and player coach with a lot of kids just 5-10 years older than the current crop of college kids, and I really enjoyed it but they are still way more sensitive and flaky overall, definitely can't coach them like I was, and when you add in the college woke culture its just off-putting. It is not hard for a new coach to find top of the line minority talent and diverse recruiting backgrounds are just as necessary. If a coach didn't have any diversity on staff I would look at that just as skeptically...but I interpreted the AD's comment much differently and it stank of the kind of woke academic CYA language that is rampant (and I'll admit necessary)in today's brainwashed academic culture and coddled athletes.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pmI typed this same response out and then decided it wasn't worth the effort but I'm glad you did it hahaForever-an-aggie wrote:Well at least your username is fitting. If you are that dense that you don’t understand the importance of diversity especially in the coaching staff of a sports team then I think you are what's called a sheep.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Just doesn't make me more excited. But that's just me and I'm in the clear minority.
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Re: Sabau ghosted KSL sports zone at 1:30
You are 100% right on!! And that takes effort.... USU looks like the opposite of a HBCU College/University.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:04 pm100%. USU would be a better university if it attracted more students of different races/religions/backgrounds.Yossarian wrote:Should that philosophy not extend to the student body too? And the town of Logan? If you want a coach to feel rooted in the community, that coach will need a community that looks and thinks like him/ her and has similar life experiences. And the players don't just interact with the coaches, they interact with their fellow students. It seems to me that if USU wants to recruit a particular person for their athletic teams, they need to be recruiting similar people to the university.Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:46 pmAs she was listing out various factors they’re looking for in a coach she said one of those was a coach that had a diverse coaching staff to match the diversity of rosters in this sport, which we didn’t really have before.SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Re: Sabau ghosted KSL sports zone at 1:30
lol. Dude living in Utah gets upset that that players want to be around people that look like them.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Re: Sabau ghosted KSL sports zone at 1:30
I feel like you should just hire the best staff possible.
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Re: Sabau ghosted KSL sports zone at 1:30
Oh this thread is own it's way to my domaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain HA!SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:58 pmlol the University has a program literally called the Koch Scholars using funding from the Libertarian Koch Brothers, I've been around the world and I can tell you Logan and Utah State is not in any way, shape or form some liberal hot bed, and that's ignoring the fact that 99.9% of people that use woke as an insult can't even define what WOKE is or why it's bad, just a buzz word for the braindeadhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:55 pmlol..No nothing to do with "right wing propaganda" or "entitled white guys". That stuff is what it may have looked like 30 years ago. No more like "bat (I can't express myself without swearing) crazy" and not even in a political way.SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:41 pmEntitled white guys upset that they don't get special treatment, and a steady supply of right wing propagandahickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:37 pmLOL..I have represented people in Title 9 actions and have gotten a real education from depositions and 100's of documents on college academic culture. Woke is putting it nicely. What we are putting kids through right now is a travesty. Probably sand box stuff but you brought it up. How exactly would you describe it?SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:28 pmCollege "Woke Culture" give me a breakhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:20 pmI absolutely understand we got to get the right color and coaching on a modern staff in the NIL no transfer era. Doesn't mean I'm still not old school and it gets me less excited to watch these mercenaries play. I got the opportunity to play and player coach with a lot of kids just 5-10 years older than the current crop of college kids, and I really enjoyed it but they are still way more sensitive and flaky overall, definitely can't coach them like I was, and when you add in the college woke culture its just off-putting. It is not hard for a new coach to find top of the line minority talent and diverse recruiting backgrounds are just as necessary. If a coach didn't have any diversity on staff I would look at that just as skeptically...but I interpreted the AD's comment much differently and it stank of the kind of woke academic CYA language that is rampant (and I'll admit necessary)in today's brainwashed academic culture and coddled athletes.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pmI typed this same response out and then decided it wasn't worth the effort but I'm glad you did it hahaForever-an-aggie wrote:Well at least your username is fitting. If you are that dense that you don’t understand the importance of diversity especially in the coaching staff of a sports team then I think you are what's called a sheep.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Just doesn't make me more excited. But that's just me and I'm in the clear minority.
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Re: Sabau ghosted KSL sports zone at 1:30
Exactly. It's not a "Diversity" initiative, at least in the way our beloved conservative brothers and sisters would try to have you believe, it's a "Player Retention" initiative.bpd wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 4:17 pmlol. Dude living in Utah gets upset that that players want to be around people that look like them.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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I said nothing about liberal or conservative. The moronic use of those terms that mean nothing, and your obvious placement of me in your mind as one or the other, is the only thing that's brain dead. I am happy to learn that their is still a libertarian presence at USU even if the Koch Brothers foundation is a pretty poor representative of classical liberal thought. Maybe woke is too broad of a stroke for the spectrum of crazy that began as critical race and then morphed into intersectionalism at its extreme with its tentacles in every aspect of academia. The attitudes and the CYB college administration bureaucracy is a staple of pretty much every academic institution in this country and has infected a whole generation. Its not political in my mind but as I indicated coming from my time at USU in the 1990s and the real world ever since it is just "Bat (I can't express myself without swearing) Crazy"SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:58 pmlol the University has a program literally called the Koch Scholars using funding from the Libertarian Koch Brothers, I've been around the world and I can tell you Logan and Utah State is not in any way, shape or form some liberal hot bed, and that's ignoring the fact that 99.9% of people that use woke as an insult can't even define what WOKE is or why it's bad, just a buzz word for the braindeadhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:55 pmlol..No nothing to do with "right wing propaganda" or "entitled white guys". That stuff is what it may have looked like 30 years ago. No more like "bat (I can't express myself without swearing) crazy" and not even in a political way.SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:41 pmEntitled white guys upset that they don't get special treatment, and a steady supply of right wing propagandahickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:37 pmLOL..I have represented people in Title 9 actions and have gotten a real education from depositions and 100's of documents on college academic culture. Woke is putting it nicely. What we are putting kids through right now is a travesty. Probably sand box stuff but you brought it up. How exactly would you describe it?SoJo_Aggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:28 pmCollege "Woke Culture" give me a breakhickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:20 pmI absolutely understand we got to get the right color and coaching on a modern staff in the NIL no transfer era. Doesn't mean I'm still not old school and it gets me less excited to watch these mercenaries play. I got the opportunity to play and player coach with a lot of kids just 5-10 years older than the current crop of college kids, and I really enjoyed it but they are still way more sensitive and flaky overall, definitely can't coach them like I was, and when you add in the college woke culture its just off-putting. It is not hard for a new coach to find top of the line minority talent and diverse recruiting backgrounds are just as necessary. If a coach didn't have any diversity on staff I would look at that just as skeptically...but I interpreted the AD's comment much differently and it stank of the kind of woke academic CYA language that is rampant (and I'll admit necessary)in today's brainwashed academic culture and coddled athletes.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 3:02 pmI typed this same response out and then decided it wasn't worth the effort but I'm glad you did it hahaForever-an-aggie wrote:Well at least your username is fitting. If you are that dense that you don’t understand the importance of diversity especially in the coaching staff of a sports team then I think you are what's called a sheep.hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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Just doesn't make me more excited. But that's just me and I'm in the clear minority.
As it relates to this particular topic its extension to athletics is just another reason I am losing interest.
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Re: Sabau ghosted KSL sports zone at 1:30
Posted with zero irony... GODDAMN SNOWFLAKES!!!hickaggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:54 pmBecause 10 years ago that topic would never be brought up. Now these admins have to cow-tow to a bunch of snowflakes who have been taught that the color of one's skin matters after we spent 150 years trying to move away from that. I am all for players having the ability to get paid and to stay or go based upon any reason they want to but to but knowing that if we hire a coach of a certain color that his staff decisions are going to have to be based on catering to a bunch of woke snowflakes so they don't at best transfer and at the worst refuse to play...It just makes the whole college athletics mess even less appealing if that's possible. Sorry about all the incorrect PC here but I've seen enough of the new college culture to read between the lines.TrueAG wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:44 pmThis upsets you? Why?SLB wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:42 pmShe said those exact words.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑March 29th, 2024, 2:40 pmI may have misheard but I believe she just said the coaching staff diversity didn't match what was on the roster. I wonder if that's feedback from players.
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