Current State of USU Basketball

USU78 · Post by **USU78** » April 12th, 2024, 10:42 pm

justinmorrey wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:28 pm
I’m 95% sure I saw Craig Smith at Cafe Sabor tonight. Does that lower our chances on any of the remaining guys?

The spirits say: Six more weeks of Cowardice in Scheduling.

ChicagoAggie · Post by **ChicagoAggie** » April 13th, 2024, 12:01 am

justinmorrey wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:28 pm
I’m 95% sure I saw Craig Smith at Cafe Sabor tonight. Does that lower our chances on any of the remaining guys?

Haslam? And the other two Brits?

StanfordAggie · Post by **StanfordAggie** » April 13th, 2024, 2:18 pm

justinmorrey wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:37 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:34 pm

justinmorrey wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:28 pm
I’m 95% sure I saw Craig Smith at Cafe Sabor tonight. Does that lower our chances on any of the remaining guys?
Did he have full length sleeves?

And odoms wife would be disgusted that Craig went to such a lowly joint
He did. A hoodie. And under it a red shirt was peeking out. The nerve.

You know, I can forgive Craig Smith for leaving USU for a larger paycheck. But coming back to Cache Valley while wearing a Utah shirt is a truly low blow.

flying_scotsman2.0 · Post by **flying_scotsman2.0** » April 13th, 2024, 2:43 pm

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑
April 13th, 2024, 2:18 pm

justinmorrey wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:37 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:34 pm

justinmorrey wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:28 pm
I’m 95% sure I saw Craig Smith at Cafe Sabor tonight. Does that lower our chances on any of the remaining guys?
Did he have full length sleeves?

And odoms wife would be disgusted that Craig went to such a lowly joint
He did. A hoodie. And under it a red shirt was peeking out. The nerve.
You know, I can forgive Craig Smith for leaving USU for a larger paycheck. But coming back to Cache Valley while wearing a Utah shirt is a truly low blow.

The larger paycheck isn’t why most of us wouldn’t forgive him. Fortunately for us it’s worked out so far that we don’t have to be terribly bitter. Just a little bitter. And no more petty than usual.

Aggie in Boise · Post by **Aggie in Boise** » April 13th, 2024, 4:29 pm

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑
April 13th, 2024, 2:18 pm

justinmorrey wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:37 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:34 pm

justinmorrey wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:28 pm
I’m 95% sure I saw Craig Smith at Cafe Sabor tonight. Does that lower our chances on any of the remaining guys?
Did he have full length sleeves?

And odoms wife would be disgusted that Craig went to such a lowly joint
He did. A hoodie. And under it a red shirt was peeking out. The nerve.
You know, I can forgive Craig Smith for leaving USU for a larger paycheck. But coming back to Cache Valley while wearing a Utah shirt is a truly low blow.

But isn't that a part of the job that he left for? The job that provides him the larger paycheck.

StanfordAggie · Post by **StanfordAggie** » April 13th, 2024, 7:39 pm

Aggie in Boise wrote: ↑
April 13th, 2024, 4:29 pm

StanfordAggie wrote: ↑
April 13th, 2024, 2:18 pm

justinmorrey wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:37 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:34 pm

justinmorrey wrote: ↑
April 12th, 2024, 10:28 pm
I’m 95% sure I saw Craig Smith at Cafe Sabor tonight. Does that lower our chances on any of the remaining guys?
Did he have full length sleeves?

And odoms wife would be disgusted that Craig went to such a lowly joint
He did. A hoodie. And under it a red shirt was peeking out. The nerve.
You know, I can forgive Craig Smith for leaving USU for a larger paycheck. But coming back to Cache Valley while wearing a Utah shirt is a truly low blow.
But isn't that a part of the job that he left for? The job that provides him the larger paycheck.

I'm pretty sure it is in his contract that if he must wear a Utah shirt any time he goes out in public.

Aggie702 · Post by **Aggie702** » April 14th, 2024, 6:07 pm

This guy thinks Josh's decision is related to Ian. If Ian comes back we lose Josh. If Ian leaves Josh stays. I can live with that outcome

bigblue32 · Post by **bigblue32** » April 14th, 2024, 6:16 pm

Aggie702 wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 6:07 pm

This guy thinks Josh's decision is related to Ian. If Ian comes back we lose Josh. If Ian leaves Josh stays. I can live with that outcome

Still wasn’t first with that info though. Really should change his name lol

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 14th, 2024, 7:58 pm

There’s some logic to Josh waiting on Ian with them both going into their respective last years of eligibility — I totally get the wanting to start angle. Would love to have either of them back.

I actually hope this is true. I feel really good about a core of Falslev/Johnson/Uduje or Martinez with another year of development + Albury. Just an Osobor return or a solid 5 man and some depth away from being really good next year.

AGGIEinIOWA · Post by **AGGIEinIOWA** » April 14th, 2024, 8:05 pm

Uduje had worked his way into a very valuable role as 6th man. A good 6th man is equally as important as a starter. I really like Josh and what he brings to the team in a lot of different facets. I hope Ian stays and Josh can accept being another conference 6th man of the year type player. Maybe average more minutes than last year though.

trevordude · Post by **trevordude** » April 14th, 2024, 8:36 pm

Really like Uduje and Martinez.

Any change Calhoun would play small ball minutes? Martinez or Falslev at the 4?

One injury away from from coming off the bench to starting

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » April 14th, 2024, 8:53 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 8:36 pm
Really like Uduje and Martinez.

Any change Calhoun would play small ball minutes? Martinez or Falslev at the 4?

One injury away from from coming off the bench to starting

A 6'3" Power Forward?

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » April 14th, 2024, 9:01 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 8:53 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 8:36 pm
Really like Uduje and Martinez.

Any change Calhoun would play small ball minutes? Martinez or Falslev at the 4?

One injury away from from coming off the bench to starting
A 6'3" Power Forward?

In 2005 Villanova ran a similar lineup extremely effectively. They were a 1 seed in the NCAA tournament & ranked #1 a lot of the season.

G, Randy Foye (remember this former Jazzman that played guard?) played their 4 on defense most the season and he was only 6’4”.

Their starting lineup all played at least 28 minutes/game and this was their heights:

6’0”
6’2”
6’2”
6’4”
6’8”

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 14th, 2024, 9:56 pm

I would love to have both Ian and Josh return. I actually think there is plenty of time between Ian, Mason and Josh. Realistically those three would take care of two positions for the game. If you split them evenly it's about 26 and 1/2 minutes. If there is a choice between the two I would probably choose Martinez just because of his scoring ability when he is on. Although I think Josh is a little bit more consistent game in and game out.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 15th, 2024, 12:03 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 8:53 pm

trevordude wrote: ↑
April 14th, 2024, 8:36 pm
Really like Uduje and Martinez.

Any change Calhoun would play small ball minutes? Martinez or Falslev at the 4?

One injury away from from coming off the bench to starting
A 6'3" Power Forward?

I do believe that we could have the small ball lineup because we have 6'5" Uduje, 6'6" Phelps, and maybe 6'8" Cox. We need to get more shooters, so the whole smaller lineup idea might be a good way to go since we already have Johnson, Templin, Burris, and Jackson Grant here for bigs while we need some size at the guard position.
We had very good smaller lineup in the 19-20 season with Porter, Merrill, Brito/Miller, Anderson, and Bean

EngineeringAggie · Post by **EngineeringAggie** » April 15th, 2024, 2:35 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 4th, 2024, 1:13 pm
After assessing how things have transpired this week and trying to do as much research as I can, this is my PREDICTION as to who stays, who is going, and who is on the fence. If at any time I have reason to believe that my prediction needs to be altered I will do so.

Nigel Burris - Stays at Utah State
Mason Falslev - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
Jackson Grant - Stays at Utah State
Isaac Johnson - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
Garrison Phelps - Stays at Utah State
Karson Templin - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
Jaxon Smith - Stays at Utah State
Josh Uduje - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
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Ian Martinez - HIGH chance he stays at Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Great Osobor - MEDIUM chance he stays at Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
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Max Agbonkpolo - No Return to Utah State - Can't enter the transfer portal without injury waiver.
Landon Brenchley - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Dallin Grant - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Javon Jackson - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Kalifa Sakho - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
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Jordy Barnes - Will Sign at Utah State
Chris Cox - HIGH chance he signs at Utah State
Terrence Hill - MINOR chance he signs at Utah State
Kase Wynott - MINOR chance he signs at Utah State

Aggie702 · Post by **Aggie702** » April 15th, 2024, 2:46 pm

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 2:35 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 4th, 2024, 1:13 pm
After assessing how things have transpired this week and trying to do as much research as I can, this is my PREDICTION as to who stays, who is going, and who is on the fence. If at any time I have reason to believe that my prediction needs to be altered I will do so.

Nigel Burris - Stays at Utah State
Mason Falslev - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
Jackson Grant - Stays at Utah State
Isaac Johnson - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
Garrison Phelps - Stays at Utah State
Karson Templin - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
Jaxon Smith - Stays at Utah State
Josh Uduje - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
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Ian Martinez - HIGH chance he stays at Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Great Osobor - MEDIUM chance he stays at Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
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Max Agbonkpolo - No Return to Utah State - Can't enter the transfer portal without injury waiver.
Landon Brenchley - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Dallin Grant - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Javon Jackson - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Kalifa Sakho - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
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Jordy Barnes - Will Sign at Utah State
Chris Cox - HIGH chance he signs at Utah State
Terrence Hill - MINOR chance he signs at Utah State
Kase Wynott - MINOR chance he signs at Utah State

Ian moves from Medium to High chance he stays??

MetsJetsAggies · Post by **MetsJetsAggies** » April 15th, 2024, 2:47 pm

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 2:35 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 4th, 2024, 1:13 pm
After assessing how things have transpired this week and trying to do as much research as I can, this is my PREDICTION as to who stays, who is going, and who is on the fence. If at any time I have reason to believe that my prediction needs to be altered I will do so.

Nigel Burris - Stays at Utah State
Mason Falslev - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
Jackson Grant - Stays at Utah State
Isaac Johnson - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
Garrison Phelps - Stays at Utah State
Karson Templin - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
Jaxon Smith - Stays at Utah State
Josh Uduje - Stays at Utah State - Has been announced.
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Ian Martinez - HIGH chance he stays at Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Great Osobor - MEDIUM chance he stays at Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
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Max Agbonkpolo - No Return to Utah State - Can't enter the transfer portal without injury waiver.
Landon Brenchley - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Dallin Grant - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Javon Jackson - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
Kalifa Sakho - No Return to Utah State - Has announced transfer portal entry.
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Jordy Barnes - Will Sign at Utah State
Chris Cox - HIGH chance he signs at Utah State
Terrence Hill - MINOR chance he signs at Utah State
Kase Wynott - MINOR chance he signs at Utah State

Wasn’t there a rumor that Josh’s return was slightly depending on whether Ian was leaving or not?

Post by **treesap32** » April 15th, 2024, 2:51 pm

Here's a look at the 13=13 list based on aggies22 intel:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69760&p=918810#p918810

Aggie37 · Post by **Aggie37** » April 15th, 2024, 2:54 pm

treesap32 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 2:51 pm
Here's a look at the 13=13 list based on aggies22 intel:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69760&p=918810#p918810

Pretty sure Jordy Barnes will be a walk-on like Jaxon Smith. He was not offered a scholarship from Sprinkle and never "signed" an NLI like Wynott and Hill did. This leaves another scholarship position open for a portal recruit.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 15th, 2024, 2:57 pm

Aggie37 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 2:54 pm

treesap32 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 2:51 pm
Here's a look at the 13=13 list based on aggies22 intel:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69760&p=918810#p918810
Pretty sure Jordy Barnes will be a walk-on like Jaxon Smith. He was not offered a scholarship from Sprinkle and never "signed" an NLI like Wynott and Hill did. This leaves another scholarship position open for a portal recruit.

If Barnes is a walk-on, I hope he can keep good walk-on players become scholly players.
Justin Bean, Quinn Taylor, Abel Porter, Trevin Dorius, and etc.

cval · Post by **cval** » April 15th, 2024, 3:00 pm

Aggie37 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 2:54 pm

treesap32 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 2:51 pm
Here's a look at the 13=13 list based on aggies22 intel:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69760&p=918810#p918810
Pretty sure Jordy Barnes will be a walk-on like Jaxon Smith. He was not offered a scholarship from Sprinkle and never "signed" an NLI like Wynott and Hill did. This leaves another scholarship position open for a portal recruit.

You may very well be correct, but I would like to see some source level information on this one…

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 15th, 2024, 3:04 pm

It amazes me to this day that Justin Bean was a walk-on.
In the state of Oklahoma top 2 scorers in Bean's senior year
1) Trae Young
2) Justin Bean

Real Life Aggie · Post by **Real Life Aggie** » April 15th, 2024, 3:29 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 3:04 pm
It amazes me to this day that Justin Bean was a walk-on.
In the state of Oklahoma top 2 scorers in Bean's senior year
1) Trae Young
2) Justin Bean

I thought Bean got injured early his senior year and that's why he didn't get as many looks as he should have? Was this his junior year?

ereksonaggie95 · Post by **ereksonaggie95** » April 15th, 2024, 3:30 pm

So, aren't any players from Youngstown going to follow their coach? Is their young, really tall center, worth a spot?

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » April 15th, 2024, 3:30 pm

That would be a red flag to some on this site.

Aggie702 · Post by **Aggie702** » April 15th, 2024, 3:34 pm

ereksonaggie95 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 3:30 pm
So, aren't any players from Youngstown going to follow their coach? Is their young, really tall center, worth a spot?

We are running out of spots. And if Great and/or Ian com back, we won't have much room in the inn (if any).

Post by **GeoAg** » April 15th, 2024, 3:37 pm

ereksonaggie95 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 3:30 pm
So, aren't any players from Youngstown going to follow their coach? Is their young, really tall center, worth a spot?

I would rather have Great and/or the Stetson big.

ereksonaggie95 · Post by **ereksonaggie95** » April 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm

I would rather have Great, I don't know much about the guy from Stetson. I just think it's weird that he isn't bringing anyone with him. Maybe it's because all of his best players were seniors?

Post by **GeoAg** » April 15th, 2024, 4:09 pm

ereksonaggie95 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm
I would rather have Great, I don't know much about the guy from Stetson. I just think it's weird that he isn't bringing anyone with him. Maybe it's because all of his best players were seniors?

Oh, me too, for sure. Would prefer both.

Post by **aggies22** » April 15th, 2024, 6:06 pm

ereksonaggie95 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm
I would rather have Great, I don't know much about the guy from Stetson. I just think it's weird that he isn't bringing anyone with him. Maybe it's because all of his best players were seniors?

Perhaps the jump from Youngstown State and the Horizon League is too big going to Utah State and the Mountain West.

Aggie702 · Post by **Aggie702** » April 15th, 2024, 6:15 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 6:06 pm

ereksonaggie95 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm
I would rather have Great, I don't know much about the guy from Stetson. I just think it's weird that he isn't bringing anyone with him. Maybe it's because all of his best players were seniors?
Perhaps the jump from Youngstown State and the Atlantic Sun Conference is too big going to Utah State and the Mountain West.

I'd imagine Coach Calhoun may also be telling these guys to wait and see, right? If Ian/Great come back and we sign one or more of Cox/Wynott/Hill I think we're out of spots. If Ian and/or Great dont' come back, or we miss out on some recruits then we can always go back to these lower level guys. Aim high, then settle if necessary.

Post by **aggies22** » April 15th, 2024, 6:21 pm

Aggie702 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 6:15 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 6:06 pm

ereksonaggie95 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm
I would rather have Great, I don't know much about the guy from Stetson. I just think it's weird that he isn't bringing anyone with him. Maybe it's because all of his best players were seniors?
Perhaps the jump from Youngstown State and the Atlantic Sun Conference is too big going to Utah State and the Mountain West.
I'd imagine Coach Calhoun may also be telling these guys to wait and see, right? If Ian/Great come back and we sign one or more of Cox/Wynott/Hill I think we're out of spots. If Ian and/or Great dont' come back, or we miss out on some recruits then we can always go back to these lower level guys. Aim high, then settle if necessary.

That could certainly be a scenario as well.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 15th, 2024, 6:39 pm

We need to cut a little more fat — really just free up one scholarship. Of course, there needs to be development guys and end of bench guys cause there just aren’t enough minutes to go around, but I’d love to replace a Jackson Grant with a Gabe Dynes, especially if a guy like Dynes can accept a smaller role and situational minutes at least next year.

Post by **Aglicious** » April 15th, 2024, 7:01 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 6:06 pm

ereksonaggie95 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 3:45 pm
I would rather have Great, I don't know much about the guy from Stetson. I just think it's weird that he isn't bringing anyone with him. Maybe it's because all of his best players were seniors?
Perhaps the jump from Youngstown State and the Atlantic Sun Conference is too big going to Utah State and the Mountain West.

Man I hope that doesn't prove to be the case, seeing that our new PG is from the ASun conference.

The Asun was the 26th ranked conference though. Youngstown State's Horizon league was only marginally better at 20th.

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