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This thread is titled “The Current State of USU Basketball”. It is not titled, “Every College Basketball Player Who Is Entering the Portal”. Perhaps I am alone is being disinterested in that level of minutiae. If the Aggies are affected I’m all in. If other MWC teams are affected I am marginally interested. If a player has limited his selection to Indiana St., Rutgers, North Dakota St., and Texas San Antonio I am very much uninterested.
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Past efforts have been made to herd the cats on this board. Those efforts have proven unsuccessful. There is one particularly large tabby named SLB that (I can't express myself without swearing) everywhere.utaggies wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 7:38 pmThis thread is titled “The Current State of USU Basketball”. It is not titled, “Every College Basketball Player Who Is Entering the Portal”. Perhaps I am alone is being disinterested in that level of minutiae. If the Aggies are affected I’m all in. If other MWC teams are affected I am marginally interested. If a player has limited his selection to Indiana St., Rutgers, North Dakota St., and Texas San Antonio I am very much uninterested.
I wish you luck in this endeavor.
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SLB stands for slick loose bowelsineptimusprime wrote:Past efforts have been made to herd the cats on this board. Those efforts have proven unsuccessful. There is one particularly large tabby named SLB that (I can't express myself without swearing) everywhere.utaggies wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 7:38 pmThis thread is titled “The Current State of USU Basketball”. It is not titled, “Every College Basketball Player Who Is Entering the Portal”. Perhaps I am alone is being disinterested in that level of minutiae. If the Aggies are affected I’m all in. If other MWC teams are affected I am marginally interested. If a player has limited his selection to Indiana St., Rutgers, North Dakota St., and Texas San Antonio I am very much uninterested.
I wish you luck in this endeavor.
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FWIW, Great has at least one offer at or very near $1,000,000 for next season.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:51 pmThis is a sliding scale sort of thing. If a player likes USU and could get maybe 20% more or even 30% more somewhere else, there’s an argument for staying at USU. If it’s true that Great is getting offers of $500k elsewhere and the most we can offer is $150k, he’d be a Great fool not to leave. There’s no argument not to leave if you can more than triple your earnings by going elsewhere. It’s just sentiment keeping you in Logan at that point.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:13 pmWhat I found fascinating about this entire discussion is that even though we are returning practically every key contributor from a top 25 team that won an NCAA tournament game despite losing our coach, everyone seems to assume that any player at USU who has a decent season is automatically going to transfer. Personally, I could almost certainly get a job that pays significantly more money if I were willing to relocate anywhere in the country, but I like my job and where I live, so I don't.
And even if a player does well and decides to leave for more NIL money, why is that a bad thing? Should we not recruit a McDonald's All-American who wants to come to USU because we are worried he might leave for the NBA after a year? Just recruit the best players that you can sign. Whether or not he will stay in Logan for one year or five years should not even be a consideration. I'd much rather have players being poached or going to the NBA than a roster of four-year players that nobody else wants.
I think Great owes it to himself and his family and should leave if he truly has offers for $500k+ that we can’t even come close to matching. I also think Great owes it to USU and the fans that have supported him to make that decision quickly and let the coaching staff know. I don’t think either of these opinions will be popular, but they are the correct opinions on the matter.
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Is this a trick rhetorical question because I think it is worth at or very near $1,000,000.Intermeddler wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 9:16 pmFWIW, Great has at least one offer at or very near $1,000,000 for next season.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:51 pmThis is a sliding scale sort of thing. If a player likes USU and could get maybe 20% more or even 30% more somewhere else, there’s an argument for staying at USU. If it’s true that Great is getting offers of $500k elsewhere and the most we can offer is $150k, he’d be a Great fool not to leave. There’s no argument not to leave if you can more than triple your earnings by going elsewhere. It’s just sentiment keeping you in Logan at that point.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:13 pmWhat I found fascinating about this entire discussion is that even though we are returning practically every key contributor from a top 25 team that won an NCAA tournament game despite losing our coach, everyone seems to assume that any player at USU who has a decent season is automatically going to transfer. Personally, I could almost certainly get a job that pays significantly more money if I were willing to relocate anywhere in the country, but I like my job and where I live, so I don't.
And even if a player does well and decides to leave for more NIL money, why is that a bad thing? Should we not recruit a McDonald's All-American who wants to come to USU because we are worried he might leave for the NBA after a year? Just recruit the best players that you can sign. Whether or not he will stay in Logan for one year or five years should not even be a consideration. I'd much rather have players being poached or going to the NBA than a roster of four-year players that nobody else wants.
I think Great owes it to himself and his family and should leave if he truly has offers for $500k+ that we can’t even come close to matching. I also think Great owes it to USU and the fans that have supported him to make that decision quickly and let the coaching staff know. I don’t think either of these opinions will be popular, but they are the correct opinions on the matter.
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Uh no, FWIW relative to the discussion about moving for more money. It’s probably a 5-6x decisionususports wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 9:34 pmIs this a trick rhetorical question because I think it is worth at or very near $1,000,000.Intermeddler wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 9:16 pmFWIW, Great has at least one offer at or very near $1,000,000 for next season.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:51 pmThis is a sliding scale sort of thing. If a player likes USU and could get maybe 20% more or even 30% more somewhere else, there’s an argument for staying at USU. If it’s true that Great is getting offers of $500k elsewhere and the most we can offer is $150k, he’d be a Great fool not to leave. There’s no argument not to leave if you can more than triple your earnings by going elsewhere. It’s just sentiment keeping you in Logan at that point.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:13 pmWhat I found fascinating about this entire discussion is that even though we are returning practically every key contributor from a top 25 team that won an NCAA tournament game despite losing our coach, everyone seems to assume that any player at USU who has a decent season is automatically going to transfer. Personally, I could almost certainly get a job that pays significantly more money if I were willing to relocate anywhere in the country, but I like my job and where I live, so I don't.
And even if a player does well and decides to leave for more NIL money, why is that a bad thing? Should we not recruit a McDonald's All-American who wants to come to USU because we are worried he might leave for the NBA after a year? Just recruit the best players that you can sign. Whether or not he will stay in Logan for one year or five years should not even be a consideration. I'd much rather have players being poached or going to the NBA than a roster of four-year players that nobody else wants.
I think Great owes it to himself and his family and should leave if he truly has offers for $500k+ that we can’t even come close to matching. I also think Great owes it to USU and the fans that have supported him to make that decision quickly and let the coaching staff know. I don’t think either of these opinions will be popular, but they are the correct opinions on the matter.
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Then there’s no decision to be made. Good luck, Great! Get your bag!Intermeddler wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 10:25 pmUh no, FWIW relative to the discussion about moving for more money. It’s probably a 5-6x decisionususports wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 9:34 pmIs this a trick rhetorical question because I think it is worth at or very near $1,000,000.Intermeddler wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 9:16 pmFWIW, Great has at least one offer at or very near $1,000,000 for next season.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:51 pmThis is a sliding scale sort of thing. If a player likes USU and could get maybe 20% more or even 30% more somewhere else, there’s an argument for staying at USU. If it’s true that Great is getting offers of $500k elsewhere and the most we can offer is $150k, he’d be a Great fool not to leave. There’s no argument not to leave if you can more than triple your earnings by going elsewhere. It’s just sentiment keeping you in Logan at that point.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:13 pmWhat I found fascinating about this entire discussion is that even though we are returning practically every key contributor from a top 25 team that won an NCAA tournament game despite losing our coach, everyone seems to assume that any player at USU who has a decent season is automatically going to transfer. Personally, I could almost certainly get a job that pays significantly more money if I were willing to relocate anywhere in the country, but I like my job and where I live, so I don't.
And even if a player does well and decides to leave for more NIL money, why is that a bad thing? Should we not recruit a McDonald's All-American who wants to come to USU because we are worried he might leave for the NBA after a year? Just recruit the best players that you can sign. Whether or not he will stay in Logan for one year or five years should not even be a consideration. I'd much rather have players being poached or going to the NBA than a roster of four-year players that nobody else wants.
I think Great owes it to himself and his family and should leave if he truly has offers for $500k+ that we can’t even come close to matching. I also think Great owes it to USU and the fans that have supported him to make that decision quickly and let the coaching staff know. I don’t think either of these opinions will be popular, but they are the correct opinions on the matter.
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Great and coach Calhoun could have the same base income next year.Intermeddler wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 9:16 pmFWIW, Great has at least one offer at or very near $1,000,000 for next season.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:51 pmThis is a sliding scale sort of thing. If a player likes USU and could get maybe 20% more or even 30% more somewhere else, there’s an argument for staying at USU. If it’s true that Great is getting offers of $500k elsewhere and the most we can offer is $150k, he’d be a Great fool not to leave. There’s no argument not to leave if you can more than triple your earnings by going elsewhere. It’s just sentiment keeping you in Logan at that point.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:13 pmWhat I found fascinating about this entire discussion is that even though we are returning practically every key contributor from a top 25 team that won an NCAA tournament game despite losing our coach, everyone seems to assume that any player at USU who has a decent season is automatically going to transfer. Personally, I could almost certainly get a job that pays significantly more money if I were willing to relocate anywhere in the country, but I like my job and where I live, so I don't.
And even if a player does well and decides to leave for more NIL money, why is that a bad thing? Should we not recruit a McDonald's All-American who wants to come to USU because we are worried he might leave for the NBA after a year? Just recruit the best players that you can sign. Whether or not he will stay in Logan for one year or five years should not even be a consideration. I'd much rather have players being poached or going to the NBA than a roster of four-year players that nobody else wants.
I think Great owes it to himself and his family and should leave if he truly has offers for $500k+ that we can’t even come close to matching. I also think Great owes it to USU and the fans that have supported him to make that decision quickly and let the coaching staff know. I don’t think either of these opinions will be popular, but they are the correct opinions on the matter.
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This reminds of me about the story of Babe Ruth driving his manager in Ruth's luxury in a parade.josephconlin wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 11:08 pmGreat and coach Calhoun could have the same base income next year.Intermeddler wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 9:16 pmFWIW, Great has at least one offer at or very near $1,000,000 for next season.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:51 pmThis is a sliding scale sort of thing. If a player likes USU and could get maybe 20% more or even 30% more somewhere else, there’s an argument for staying at USU. If it’s true that Great is getting offers of $500k elsewhere and the most we can offer is $150k, he’d be a Great fool not to leave. There’s no argument not to leave if you can more than triple your earnings by going elsewhere. It’s just sentiment keeping you in Logan at that point.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:13 pmWhat I found fascinating about this entire discussion is that even though we are returning practically every key contributor from a top 25 team that won an NCAA tournament game despite losing our coach, everyone seems to assume that any player at USU who has a decent season is automatically going to transfer. Personally, I could almost certainly get a job that pays significantly more money if I were willing to relocate anywhere in the country, but I like my job and where I live, so I don't.
And even if a player does well and decides to leave for more NIL money, why is that a bad thing? Should we not recruit a McDonald's All-American who wants to come to USU because we are worried he might leave for the NBA after a year? Just recruit the best players that you can sign. Whether or not he will stay in Logan for one year or five years should not even be a consideration. I'd much rather have players being poached or going to the NBA than a roster of four-year players that nobody else wants.
I think Great owes it to himself and his family and should leave if he truly has offers for $500k+ that we can’t even come close to matching. I also think Great owes it to USU and the fans that have supported him to make that decision quickly and let the coaching staff know. I don’t think either of these opinions will be popular, but they are the correct opinions on the matter.
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Mongolian Mike would be a great addition and fill that long wing role we are looking for.slcagg wrote:
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Yeah, Mongolian Mike is that dude that’s gonna show up at a gym in his mid 40s in his knee pads that everyone laughs at and then proceeds to absolutely cook everyone.
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I still really really like the central Arkansas kid. But this guy would be a nice addition.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 9:15 amMongolian Mike would be a great addition and fill that long wing role we are looking for.slcagg wrote:
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Agreed, would be an awesome pickup. He is a very good shooter as well.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 9:15 amMongolian Mike would be a great addition and fill that long wing role we are looking for.slcagg wrote:
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This is an incredibly astute observation
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Great is 100% going to make nearly a million bucks in the portal, IF the right teams gets desperate enough, it might be more.ususports wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 9:34 pmIs this a trick rhetorical question because I think it is worth at or very near $1,000,000.Intermeddler wrote: ↑April 25th, 2024, 9:16 pmFWIW, Great has at least one offer at or very near $1,000,000 for next season.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:51 pmThis is a sliding scale sort of thing. If a player likes USU and could get maybe 20% more or even 30% more somewhere else, there’s an argument for staying at USU. If it’s true that Great is getting offers of $500k elsewhere and the most we can offer is $150k, he’d be a Great fool not to leave. There’s no argument not to leave if you can more than triple your earnings by going elsewhere. It’s just sentiment keeping you in Logan at that point.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑April 24th, 2024, 6:13 pmWhat I found fascinating about this entire discussion is that even though we are returning practically every key contributor from a top 25 team that won an NCAA tournament game despite losing our coach, everyone seems to assume that any player at USU who has a decent season is automatically going to transfer. Personally, I could almost certainly get a job that pays significantly more money if I were willing to relocate anywhere in the country, but I like my job and where I live, so I don't.
And even if a player does well and decides to leave for more NIL money, why is that a bad thing? Should we not recruit a McDonald's All-American who wants to come to USU because we are worried he might leave for the NBA after a year? Just recruit the best players that you can sign. Whether or not he will stay in Logan for one year or five years should not even be a consideration. I'd much rather have players being poached or going to the NBA than a roster of four-year players that nobody else wants.
I think Great owes it to himself and his family and should leave if he truly has offers for $500k+ that we can’t even come close to matching. I also think Great owes it to USU and the fans that have supported him to make that decision quickly and let the coaching staff know. I don’t think either of these opinions will be popular, but they are the correct opinions on the matter.
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I stood behind his family in line to get into the Delta Center game. His father is also a tall Mongolian. I’d love to see him come to USU.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 9:15 amMongolian Mike would be a great addition and fill that long wing role we are looking for.slcagg wrote:
I remember thinking during the game that the Aggies could put his height and skills to use better than what the Dons were doing. He seemed quite mobile.
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Karson Templin posted a video of him working out with recruit Jaylen Lawal
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In Logan or back home in Texas?BasketballAgg wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 1:07 pmKarson Templin posted a video of him working out with recruit Jaylen Lawal
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What's the Utah connection?dogie wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 11:51 amI stood behind his family in line to get into the Delta Center game. His father is also a tall Mongolian. I’d love to see him come to USU.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 9:15 amMongolian Mike would be a great addition and fill that long wing role we are looking for.slcagg wrote:
I remember thinking during the game that the Aggies could put his height and skills to use better than what the Dons were doing. He seemed quite mobile.
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Texasslcagg wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 1:15 pmIn Logan or back home in Texas?BasketballAgg wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 1:07 pmKarson Templin posted a video of him working out with recruit Jaylen Lawal
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Thanks. Wondering if that is just more them being connected through basketball in the dallas area and practicing together rather than a connection to USU?
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I'd bet it's just a basketball connection. The story was posted by a coach/trainer in TX and he tagged both of them.
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As far as I know, there is no Utah connection. This was in line to see the USU/San Francisco game in Salt Lake City in December.ereksonaggie wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 1:19 pmWhat's the Utah connection?dogie wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 11:51 amI stood behind his family in line to get into the Delta Center game. His father is also a tall Mongolian. I’d love to see him come to USU.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 9:15 amMongolian Mike would be a great addition and fill that long wing role we are looking for.slcagg wrote:
I remember thinking during the game that the Aggies could put his height and skills to use better than what the Dons were doing. He seemed quite mobile.
Sharavjamts didn’t play well, but he looked like he had some skill. He had zero points in 25 minutes on 0-for-6 shooting. That might have been the difference in the game.
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The tallest people in the world are in a region with Mongolia and China.dogie wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 11:51 amI stood behind his family in line to get into the Delta Center game. His father is also a tall Mongolian. I’d love to see him come to USU.AGGIEinIOWA wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 9:15 amMongolian Mike would be a great addition and fill that long wing role we are looking for.slcagg wrote:
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Mike Sharavjamts and Carter Welling would be great additions to the team.
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This is a win-win. I wasn't particularly impressed by him (not that he would have come here anyway). So, not only did BYU retain a player that I'm not big on, they might have had to pay him a fat stack of cash to do so. That's good stuff.flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 4:47 pmFor him. His face just screams zoob.
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He looks like he’s probably buddies with Zack Wilson’s mom’s friends too. You can’t get that just anywhere. Not even in the backwoods of Kentucky. Some things are more important than money.Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 5:08 pmThis is a win-win. I wasn't particularly impressed by him (not that he would have come here anyway). So, not only did BYU retain a player that I'm not big on, they might have had to pay him a fat stack of cash to do so. That's good stuff.flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 4:47 pmFor him. His face just screams zoob.
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They're looking for a missionary in the streets and an apostate in the sheets. I bet Zack Wilson's mom's friends' husbands want to take him to Disneyland.flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 5:25 pmHe looks like he’s probably buddies with Zack Wilson’s mom’s friends too. You can’t get that just anywhere. Not even in the backwoods of Kentucky. Some things are more important than money.Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 5:08 pmThis is a win-win. I wasn't particularly impressed by him (not that he would have come here anyway). So, not only did BYU retain a player that I'm not big on, they might have had to pay him a fat stack of cash to do so. That's good stuff.flying_scotsman2.0 wrote: ↑April 26th, 2024, 4:47 pmFor him. His face just screams zoob.
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