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https://apple.news/AAT3VwOsUQdeqS4UjFfloHQ
This is a link that addresses this issue. It’s a story about Purdue’s Zach Edey’s inability to profit from NIL because he is Canadian. As I understand it foreign players cannot earn NIL $ while playing on US soil. I don’t know how or if this impacts Great’s and Uduje’s decisions on where they play next year.
This is a link that addresses this issue. It’s a story about Purdue’s Zach Edey’s inability to profit from NIL because he is Canadian. As I understand it foreign players cannot earn NIL $ while playing on US soil. I don’t know how or if this impacts Great’s and Uduje’s decisions on where they play next year.
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Re: NIL and foreign players
The rule is that foreigners on a student visa can't work off campus for the first x amount of months (been a few years since I issued one of these, I think it is an academic year) and after that they can work on or off campus in certain types of work for a certain number of hours and USCIS can grant exceptions under certain criteria. The work basically has to be related to their coursework and the schools can provide the permission instead of USCIS if a hardship waiver isn't required.utaggies wrote:https://apple.news/AAT3VwOsUQdeqS4UjFfloHQ
This is a link that addresses this issue. It’s a story about Purdue’s Zach Edey’s inability to profit from NIL because he is Canadian. As I understand it foreign players cannot earn NIL $ while playing on US soil. I don’t know how or if this impacts Great’s and Uduje’s decisions on where they play next year.
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Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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At the very least I don’t think a school can absolutely guarantee Great that he will be able to receive what they’re offering. I’m sure USU will promise him X amount and do their absolute best to make sure money makes it to him if eligible but ultimately the uncertainty might be what keeps him at USU
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If I was them, I'd find a pro team (in Europe or the US) that would pay me to play and take coursework in the offseason to complete my education. You have to strike while the iron is hot and you have your health and youth. I wouldn't waste any more time with college ball.
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Take this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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Better yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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People can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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My personal opinion is American citizenship requirement. You can agree or disagree.
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It’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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My personal opinion is American citizenship requirement. You can agree or disagree.
I for one love foreign born players and we’ve had a ton of success with them. I hope we find any way possible to pay Great what he deserves
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I mean, it's been said that he needs some basketball lessons...
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Your opinion is ridiculous. Maybe you shouldn't have been watching the French, British, and Costa Rican play for the Aggies.
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I love everyone, but I do feel that something is wrong when all the NIL monies go to everyone in the world. There is a process to be an American citizen for folks not born in the USA.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:08 pmIt’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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My personal opinion is American citizenship requirement. You can agree or disagree.
I for one love foreign born players and we’ve had a ton of success with them. I hope we find any way possible to pay Great what he deserves
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The US based university asked the player to come play here, they deserve what the rest of the scholarship players who play for us get. Full stopSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:13 pmI love everyone, but I do feel that something is wrong when all the NIL monies go to everyone in the world. There is a process to be an American citizen for folks not born in the USA.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:08 pmIt’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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I for one love foreign born players and we’ve had a ton of success with them. I hope we find any way possible to pay Great what he deserves
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Please explain to me the process for a foreign-born college basketball player to become a US citizen besides getting married.SLB wrote:I love everyone, but I do feel that something is wrong when all the NIL monies go to everyone in the world. There is a process to be an American citizen for folks not born in the USA.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:08 pmIt’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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My personal opinion is American citizenship requirement. You can agree or disagree.
I for one love foreign born players and we’ve had a ton of success with them. I hope we find any way possible to pay Great what he deserves
Then as a bonus, explain to me why the federal government should dictate that companies shouldn't be able to have a non-citizen spokesperson.
I'm serious. I'd love to see you explain "the process" for these guys to become citizens.
I have almost a decade of experience on this very topic (I've probably adjudicated around 400,000 nonimmigrant and immigrant visas, along with 10,000 or so citizenship claims) so I'll give you a starting point. Student visas, whether you're an exceptional D1 athlete or taking English lessons at a community college, don't have a pathway to even a green card. None of these guys have any viable road to citizenship unless they marry a US citizen or their parent is an LPR.
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Re: NIL and foreign players
It's a bad take. All of these players are here legally and should be able to earn.SLB wrote:People can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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American citizens paid for the whole thing.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:15 pmThe US based university asked the player to come play here, they deserve what the rest of the scholarship players who play for us get. Full stopSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:13 pmI love everyone, but I do feel that something is wrong when all the NIL monies go to everyone in the world. There is a process to be an American citizen for folks not born in the USA.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:08 pmIt’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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They are not getting money for free. They are selling their product/talent. As mentioned, Americans asked them to be here.SLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:18 pmAmerican citizens paid for the whole thing.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:15 pmThe US based university asked the player to come play here, they deserve what the rest of the scholarship players who play for us get. Full stopSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:13 pmI love everyone, but I do feel that something is wrong when all the NIL monies go to everyone in the world. There is a process to be an American citizen for folks not born in the USA.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:08 pmIt’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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I didn’t have SLB engaging in xenophobia on my BINGO card today, but here we are.
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I'd ask for a refund. This is basically a free space.ineptimusprime wrote:I didn’t have SLB engaging in xenophobia on my BINGO card today, but here we are.
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Sure it’s not a parody?!?!!QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:33 pmI'd ask for a refund. This is basically a free space.ineptimusprime wrote:I didn’t have SLB engaging in xenophobia on my BINGO card today, but here we are.
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As I said before, you can agree or disagree. Everyone has differing opinions on the matter. I worry for the poor folks that have had sports as escape from rough places in the USA.Blitz79 wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:24 pmThey are not getting money for free. They are selling their product/talent. As mentioned, Americans asked them to be here.SLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:18 pmAmerican citizens paid for the whole thing.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:15 pmThe US based university asked the player to come play here, they deserve what the rest of the scholarship players who play for us get. Full stopSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:13 pmI love everyone, but I do feel that something is wrong when all the NIL monies go to everyone in the world. There is a process to be an American citizen for folks not born in the USA.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:08 pmIt’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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I think I read that there actually needs to be a real quid pro quo or "job" outside of playing ball. Like being in commercials or other "real work." It can't just be getting money to be on the team - you know, like those freeloader AMERICAN kids. 
The gray area comes in on how that work is defined and what constitutes something "legit."
It doesn't really matter in the end because every collective will find away around it anyway.
The gray area comes in on how that work is defined and what constitutes something "legit."
It doesn't really matter in the end because every collective will find away around it anyway.
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You are right about one thing — people are free to disagree with you.SLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:41 pmAs I said before, you can agree or disagree. Everyone has differing opinions on the matter. I worry for the poor folks that have had sports as escape from rough places in the USA.Blitz79 wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:24 pmThey are not getting money for free. They are selling their product/talent. As mentioned, Americans asked them to be here.SLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:18 pmAmerican citizens paid for the whole thing.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:15 pmThe US based university asked the player to come play here, they deserve what the rest of the scholarship players who play for us get. Full stopSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:13 pmI love everyone, but I do feel that something is wrong when all the NIL monies go to everyone in the world. There is a process to be an American citizen for folks not born in the USA.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:08 pmIt’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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My personal opinion is American citizenship requirement. You can agree or disagree.
I for one love foreign born players and we’ve had a ton of success with them. I hope we find any way possible to pay Great what he deserves
Are you doing another one of your cute little “parodies” right now? I love those.
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SLB is the person that makes the rest of the world hate Americans
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Says the CANADIAN!usugoalie13 wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 7:24 pmSLB is the person that makes the rest of the world hate Americans
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Can we sandbox this crap? Before anyone else sees it...
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Hey we have lots of people taking our jobs, we just don't yell about it. But people don't hate us, just don't respect us because we are push overs.3rdGenAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 7:25 pmSays the CANADIAN!usugoalie13 wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 7:24 pmSLB is the person that makes the rest of the world hate Americans
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What he deserves? $2,000 stipend per month on top of tuition? What? 500K? No. 1MM? No. What does he deserve?MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:08 pmIt’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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I for one love foreign born players and we’ve had a ton of success with them. I hope we find any way possible to pay Great what he deserves
What he deserves is to be deported if he's paid based on breaking the law of a student visa. A lot of people immigrate to this country and have to live like sh!t because they can't work. They all make that sacrifice for a future in this country. Why do these self-entitled kids deserve more than anyone else who's an immigrant?
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Someone said if I thought SLB's Templin take was horrible I should see what he posts in the Sandbox. Turns out I don't even need to go there.
What an absolute load of (I can't express myself without swearing). This is a gross and embarrassing take.
What an absolute load of (I can't express myself without swearing). This is a gross and embarrassing take.
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All of you on both sides of the argument need to take it down a few notches. It feels like a soap opera in here. The reality of the situation is there are federal laws that dictate what can and can’t be done when you are here on a student visa. Our Collective can’t skirt those laws and start wading into murky waters or there will be serious ramifications from the government and BOOM!! Kiss our collective goodbye. The Collective needs to be creative in how they support these foreign athletes but it has to be done legally regardless if you agree with the law or not. Xenophobic or not.
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I'd have gotten awfully tired of all that adjudication. For a 2080 hour work year, that's over 19 per hour to do 410,000 visas over 10 years. Did you at least have helpers? That's so much paper.QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:17 pmPlease explain to me the process for a foreign-born college basketball player to become a US citizen besides getting married.SLB wrote:I love everyone, but I do feel that something is wrong when all the NIL monies go to everyone in the world. There is a process to be an American citizen for folks not born in the USA.MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:08 pmIt’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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My personal opinion is American citizenship requirement. You can agree or disagree.
I for one love foreign born players and we’ve had a ton of success with them. I hope we find any way possible to pay Great what he deserves
Then as a bonus, explain to me why the federal government should dictate that companies shouldn't be able to have a non-citizen spokesperson.
I'm serious. I'd love to see you explain "the process" for these guys to become citizens.
I have almost a decade of experience on this very topic (I've probably adjudicated around 400,000 nonimmigrant and immigrant visas, along with 10,000 or so citizenship claims) so I'll give you a starting point. Student visas, whether you're an exceptional D1 athlete or taking English lessons at a community college, don't have a pathway to even a green card. None of these guys have any viable road to citizenship unless they marry a US citizen or their parent is an LPR.
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Re: NIL and foreign players
Whatever the market decides to pay him, just like everyone elseAggieFBObsession wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 7:47 pmWhat he deserves? $2,000 stipend per month on top of tuition? What? 500K? No. 1MM? No. What does he deserve?MetsJetsAggies wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:08 pmIt’s a poor representation for the rest of the University and fan baseSLB wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 6:01 pmPeople can disagree with everyone on this thread to differing degrees because this is a true grey area topic.BioAggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:56 pmBetter yet, get it all the way off the board.tetonaggie wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 5:50 pmTake this xenophobic hate to the sandbox. What a mess you are.SLB wrote:Citizenship should be a requirement. Rewarding American citizens should be a thing.
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My personal opinion is American citizenship requirement. You can agree or disagree.
I for one love foreign born players and we’ve had a ton of success with them. I hope we find any way possible to pay Great what he deserves
What he deserves is to be deported if he's paid based on breaking the law of a student visa. A lot of people immigrate to this country and have to live like sh!t because they can't work. They all make that sacrifice for a future in this country. Why do these self-entitled kids deserve more than anyone else who's an immigrant?
And once again, the university recruited him. If there is an avenue to reward him for what the university deems he’s worth of then I hope they find every legal avenue to do so.
What a (I can't express myself without swearing) argument
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Re: NIL and foreign players
No one is saying otherwise. Reread SLBs take because that is not what he saidSlim80 wrote: ↑April 5th, 2024, 8:17 pmAll of you on both sides of the argument need to take it down a few notches. It feels like a soap opera in here. The reality of the situation is there are federal laws that dictate what can and can’t be done when you are here on a student visa. Our Collective can’t skirt those laws and start wading into murky waters or there will be serious ramifications from the government and BOOM!! Kiss our collective goodbye. The Collective needs to be creative in how they support these foreign athletes but it has to be done legally regardless if you agree with the law or not. Xenophobic or not.