It’s one thing when the national coaching search leads to hire an assistant…

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 6th, 2024, 3:51 pm

…but has to be ten times worse when that same national search leads to the hiring of the local high school coach.

https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/17766 ... 41255?s=46

stwinward · Post by **stwinward** » April 6th, 2024, 4:14 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 3:51 pm
…but has to be ten times worse when that same national search leads to the hiring of the local high school coach.

https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/17766 ... 41255?s=46

Yes, we should all take a deep breath and be grateful we are Aggies today. May our Bulldog brethren find peace somehow.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 6th, 2024, 4:15 pm

I don't get this move. You would think that Fresno State could get a winning D1 coach that has Central Valley connections. I also would add on why not go after the coaches like Todd Simon, Henderson, and etc.

Post by **aggies22** » April 6th, 2024, 4:16 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:15 pm
I don't get this move. You would think that Fresno State could get a winning D1 coach that has Central Valley connections. I also would add on why not go after the coaches like Todd Simon, Henderson, and etc.

I'm pretty sure I saw Todd Simon named as a candidate. If this was us, I'd be pissed.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 6th, 2024, 4:21 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:16 pm

SLB wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:15 pm
I don't get this move. You would think that Fresno State could get a winning D1 coach that has Central Valley connections. I also would add on why not go after the coaches like Todd Simon, Henderson, and etc.
I'm pretty sure I saw Todd Simon named as a candidate. If this was us, I'd be pissed.

I was thinking of names that had won games. Fresno State makes zero sense with this move.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 6th, 2024, 4:22 pm

There is outside the box thinking and this on paper is worse than that. He is 67 and spent the last 7 years as a high school coach. He has no experience in the current landscape of NIL and transfer portals. This just seems like a really silly higher. If I were them I would have went hard after the San Francisco coach.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » April 6th, 2024, 4:24 pm

3 D1 assistants and Walberg were the four finalists. Maybe he said he would work for free.

Scott Garson Santa Clara
Ryan Panone Alabama
Keith Smart Arkansas
Vance Walberg Clovis West

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 6th, 2024, 4:25 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:22 pm
There is outside the box thinking and this on paper is worse than that. He is 67 and spent the last 7 years as a high school coach. He has no experience in the current landscape of NIL and transfer portals. This just seems like a really silly higher. If I were them I would have went hard after the San Francisco coach.

You would think that they would get coaches from the following conferences: Big West, Big Sky, WCC, and WAC. Heck, why not some big-time assistant coach from the former PAC 12.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 6th, 2024, 4:26 pm

Look at his stint as the Pepperdine head coach. BAD!

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 6th, 2024, 4:27 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:24 pm
3 D1 assistants and Walberg were the four finalists. Maybe he said he would work for free.

Scott Garson Santa Clara
Ryan Panone Alabama
Keith Smart Arkansas
Vance Walberg Clovis West

The name Smart is involved in this coaching search is an oxymoron.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 6th, 2024, 4:28 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:26 pm
Look at his stint as the Pepperdine head coach. BAD!

I am pissed because Fresno State screwing up hurts us in the computer rankings and Quad system.

AggiePT · Post by **AggiePT** » April 6th, 2024, 4:31 pm

Maybe we won’t have to go to overtime to beat them next year.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 6th, 2024, 4:32 pm

I mean, it’s really hard to fathom a worse hire on paper. We’d be melting down.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 6th, 2024, 4:41 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:32 pm
I mean, it’s really hard to fathom a worse hire on paper. We’d be melting down.

It would be full on melt down mode. I just don't see how you screw something up like that. There are so many qualified solid coaches you could go after and you go after a guy coaching high school basketball.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 6th, 2024, 4:44 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:41 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:32 pm
I mean, it’s really hard to fathom a worse hire on paper. We’d be melting down.
It would be full on melt down mode. I just don't see how you screw something up like that. There are so many qualified solid coaches you could go after and you go after a guy coaching high school basketball.

Not like a young, out of the box high school Bucky McMillan hire. But like an old guy that is coaching high school cause he washed out everywhere else.

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » April 6th, 2024, 4:47 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:24 pm
3 D1 assistants and Walberg were the four finalists. Maybe he said he would work for free.

Scott Garson Santa Clara
Ryan Panone Alabama
Keith Smart Arkansas
Vance Walberg Clovis West

That is a depressing list. They really must have gone cheap, because I can't imagine that program couldn't have scrapped together some better names than that.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » April 6th, 2024, 4:50 pm

Their board says Panone withdrew. They supposedly were offering 500K. Ryan Miller interviewed and he must be a terrible interview as he always gets weeded out early no matter where he tries.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 6th, 2024, 4:53 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:50 pm
Their board says Panone withdrew. They supposedly were offering 500K. Ryan Miller interviewed and he must be a terrible interview as he always gets weeded out early no matter where he tries.

500K

Why not pony up more than that and help the cash flow for the MWC which also gets more money for Fresno State

Aggie702 · Post by **Aggie702** » April 6th, 2024, 4:58 pm

They should have kept Huston if this is the best they can do lol.

I belive the last MWC team to try a high school coach was UNLV in football. Didn't work.

Blue Sage · Post by **Blue Sage** » April 6th, 2024, 5:06 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:41 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:32 pm
I mean, it’s really hard to fathom a worse hire on paper. We’d be melting down.
It would be full on melt down mode. I just don't see how you screw something up like that. There are so many qualified solid coaches you could go after and you go after a guy coaching high school basketball.

I mean we are in melt down mode for them…

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 6th, 2024, 5:08 pm

Blue Sage wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 5:06 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:41 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:32 pm
I mean, it’s really hard to fathom a worse hire on paper. We’d be melting down.
It would be full on melt down mode. I just don't see how you screw something up like that. There are so many qualified solid coaches you could go after and you go after a guy coaching high school basketball.
I mean we are in melt down mode for them…

We want 0 200+ NET teams in the MWC.

bigblue32 · Post by **bigblue32** » April 6th, 2024, 6:12 pm

Blue Sage wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 5:06 pm

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:41 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 4:32 pm
I mean, it’s really hard to fathom a worse hire on paper. We’d be melting down.
It would be full on melt down mode. I just don't see how you screw something up like that. There are so many qualified solid coaches you could go after and you go after a guy coaching high school basketball.
I mean we are in melt down mode for them…

That’s how egregious it is, the mountain west should David stern the hire and veto it lmao. What an absolute (I can't express myself without swearing) show

FL350Aggie · Post by **FL350Aggie** » April 6th, 2024, 6:16 pm

I saw the announcement and after some quick research I thought it was a joke. This keeps Fresno in the doldrums, and it’s Q4 status for the foreseeable future. Unreal they are only paying 500k.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 6th, 2024, 6:16 pm

I am feeling secondary embarrassment being in the same conference right now. These are the guys talked about for inclusion in the “new PAC-12” over us?

Helps with perspective — there are much worse things than funding your program to compete and being the catapult between low major coaching talent and high major coaching positions. We have a lot to be proud of at USU.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » April 6th, 2024, 6:27 pm

The 500K figure that I mentioned is from the Fresno board so take it for what it's worth. If so, not enough to get someone to be excited about and overpayment for what they got.

AGGIEinIOWA · Post by **AGGIEinIOWA** » April 6th, 2024, 6:39 pm

I think you are all overreacting. I mean UNLV hired a high school football coach and that worked out great!

QuackAttackAggie · Post by **QuackAttackAggie** » April 6th, 2024, 6:53 pm

Just read their board. A lot of good meltdowns but this was my favorite post:

Dude you called an opposing schools AD over a player “mocking the crowd” when it’s on video showing he did no such thing. You should sit out on the honesty posts

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Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 6th, 2024, 6:59 pm

Bank Shot wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 6:27 pm
The 500K figure that I mentioned is from the Fresno board so take it for what it's worth. If so, not enough to get someone to be excited about and overpayment for what they got.

With 500k you could hire some coaches with solid experience from lower level conferences. Lots of coaches at those lower level conferences are only getting about 300K. You could find someone with solid coaching experience that has been successful and might be able to lure them away.

QuackAttackAggie · Post by **QuackAttackAggie** » April 6th, 2024, 7:02 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:
Bank Shot wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 6:27 pm
The 500K figure that I mentioned is from the Fresno board so take it for what it's worth. If so, not enough to get someone to be excited about and overpayment for what they got.
With 500k you could hire some coaches with solid experience from lower level conferences. Lots of coaches at those lower level conferences are only getting about 300K. You could find someone with solid coaching experience that has been successful and might be able to lure them away.

Definitely true but I wouldn't go to Fresno for 200k more. It's a dead end job with zero support in a league where they will almost never compete for an ncaa tournament. The last time they made consecutive tournaments was in 1982. I would much rather stay at a small school with a ton of good will in the bank than start over at Fresno. Totally ignoring the cost of living differences.

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Post by **aggies22** » April 6th, 2024, 8:48 pm

Do you hear that?? It's the sound of the rest of the Bulldog players sprinting to the transfer portal. Maybe this dude had a strong senior class at Clovis West he can put on schollie.

bigblue32 · Post by **bigblue32** » April 6th, 2024, 9:04 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 8:48 pm
Do you hear that?? It's the sound of the rest of the Bulldog players sprinting to the transfer portal. Maybe this dude had a strong senior class at Clovis West he can put on schollie.

Bah gawd that’s 22’s music. Lmao death blow to Fresno imminent

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » April 6th, 2024, 10:06 pm

I bet Tim Miles would have taken that job.

StanfordAggie · Post by **StanfordAggie** » April 6th, 2024, 10:17 pm

According to the MWC board, apparently he is very popular with the local boosters, and they basically forced the interim AD to hire him. Supposedly his high school has been a feeder to the top JC programs in California, so they think he will be able to recruit well from the California JC's. Maybe it will work out. It wouldn't have been my pick, though.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » April 7th, 2024, 7:33 am

Sounds like a country club hire. We'll pony up some coin if you'll hire our buddy.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » April 7th, 2024, 8:11 am

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 7:02 pm

Aggie84025 wrote:
Bank Shot wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2024, 6:27 pm
The 500K figure that I mentioned is from the Fresno board so take it for what it's worth. If so, not enough to get someone to be excited about and overpayment for what they got.
With 500k you could hire some coaches with solid experience from lower level conferences. Lots of coaches at those lower level conferences are only getting about 300K. You could find someone with solid coaching experience that has been successful and might be able to lure them away.
Definitely true but I wouldn't go to Fresno for 200k more. It's a dead end job with zero support in a league where they will almost never compete for an ncaa tournament. The last time they made consecutive tournaments was in 1982. I would much rather stay at a small school with a ton of good will in the bank than start over at Fresno. Totally ignoring the cost of living differences.

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I’d lose almost every game at Fresno for half that lol

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