Do we want any BYU Players?

SectionBAggie · Post by **SectionBAggie** » April 15th, 2024, 9:16 am

bigblue32 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:10 am
He’s really cosplaying that Ashworth bit isn’t he? Lol

Is Ashworth done? 2 players from Utah may be overkill for Creighton?

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 15th, 2024, 9:18 am

SectionBAggie wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:16 am

bigblue32 wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:10 am
He’s really cosplaying that Ashworth bit isn’t he? Lol
Is Ashworth done? 2 players from Utah may be overkill for Creighton?

Ashworth has one more year.

OrangeCountyAggie · Post by **OrangeCountyAggie** » April 15th, 2024, 10:20 am

Asuming Great returns, Robinson is the only guy that would start on our team. We already have bench depth so no thanks.

Tetonkatest · Post by **Tetonkatest** » April 15th, 2024, 11:29 am

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:13 am
Hall is not going to Utah State. He’s pulling the old move of “get your boosters to pony up the money, so that you don’t leave to a rival school”.

So this is a money grab? I'd think that Creighton will probably throw money at him, same as they did Ashworth.

NIL has turned college basketball and football into a bit of joke.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » April 15th, 2024, 12:17 pm

Tetonkatest wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 11:29 am

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 9:13 am
Hall is not going to Utah State. He’s pulling the old move of “get your boosters to pony up the money, so that you don’t leave to a rival school”.
So this is a money grab? I'd think that Creighton will probably through money at him, same as they did Ashworth.

NIL has turned college basketball and football into a bit of joke.

There are some things more important than money, we'll see....

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » April 15th, 2024, 2:02 pm

If Ian comes back, we have basically our entire guard rotation minutes accounted for next year except for the "last in the rotation" guy to play the Javon Jackson minutes. If Ian doesn't come back, there's maybe one key rotation guard spot available. I don't see any BYU players wanting to be the last guard in the rotation here.

What we need is a playable 3 man in the 6'7 to 6'9 range that's basically a "three and D" guy (or just a D guy like Agbonkpolo) and a center. Even if great comes back, I'd like another 5 that can provide some rim protection, but that would probably require Jackson Grant to move on.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 15th, 2024, 2:04 pm

Speaking of coaching changes that make more transfer portal players

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2 years left
22.2 minutes per game
over 12 points and 6 rebounds per game
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Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » April 15th, 2024, 4:04 pm

I don’t follow them so I don’t know who- but they beat Kansas and a few other great teams. I also read none of the thread.

Anyone who says they wouldn’t want any of it is lying to
You.

Tetonkatest · Post by **Tetonkatest** » April 15th, 2024, 4:11 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 4:04 pm
I don’t follow them so I don’t know who- but they beat Kansas and a few other great teams. I also read none of the thread.

Anyone who says they wouldn’t want any of it is lying to
You.

They have some very good players that would help USU.

But don't get your hopes up. This is their players looking for a pay day, like Ashworth. They aren't coming to USU.

My guess is they are trying to extract a deal out of NIL to stay at BYU, or will look at a big pay day out of state.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » April 15th, 2024, 4:16 pm

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 2:02 pm
If Ian comes back, we have basically our entire guard rotation minutes accounted for next year except for the "last in the rotation" guy to play the Javon Jackson minutes. If Ian doesn't come back, there's maybe one key rotation guard spot available. I don't see any BYU players wanting to be the last guard in the rotation here.

What we need is a playable 3 man in the 6'7 to 6'9 range that's basically a "three and D" guy (or just a D guy like Agbonkpolo) and a center. Even if great comes back, I'd like another 5 that can provide some rim protection, but that would probably require Jackson Grant to move on.

For the sake of his playing time, Jackson Grant should move on.

Imakeitrain · Post by **Imakeitrain** » April 15th, 2024, 4:16 pm

Tetonkatest wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 4:11 pm

Imakeitrain wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 4:04 pm
I don’t follow them so I don’t know who- but they beat Kansas and a few other great teams. I also read none of the thread.

Anyone who says they wouldn’t want any of it is lying to
You.
They have some very good players that would help USU.

But don't get your hopes up. This is their players looking for a pay day, like Ashworth. They aren't coming to USU.

My guess is they are trying to extract a deal out of NIL to stay at BYU, or will look at a big pay day out of state.

Agreed. Some of them are probably dreaming of going to Kentucky and playing alongside one and done talent. I was just answering the question

EngineeringAggie · Post by **EngineeringAggie** » April 15th, 2024, 5:42 pm

I don’t know why people are saying they wouldn’t want a byu player. Booger board would have a full melt down because “why would somebody want to play in the MW instead of the Big12?”

Any player that causes that meltdown would be respected by me.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 15th, 2024, 5:44 pm

Aggiesbleedblue wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 8:23 am

Cincy is probably off the list.

PIGSKINAGGIE · Post by **PIGSKINAGGIE** » April 16th, 2024, 5:05 am

EngineeringAggie wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 5:42 pm
I don’t know why people are saying they wouldn’t want a byu player. Booger board would have a full melt down because “why would somebody want to play in the MW instead of the Big12?” Any player that causes that meltdown would be respected by me.

I like it. You convinced me. Maybe it’ll happen but doubt it.

Bank Shot · Post by **Bank Shot** » April 16th, 2024, 6:45 am

I guess I don't watch enough Zoob ball.

slcagg · Post by **slcagg** » April 16th, 2024, 7:13 am

and now Collin chandler is headed to Kentucky. Oh man I’ve been hearing cougar fans talk about him for what seems like 5 years

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 16th, 2024, 8:07 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 7:13 am
and now Collin chandler is headed to Kentucky. Oh man I’ve been hearing cougar fans talk about him for what seems like 5 years

When I looked up BYU recruits after Pope leaving, Chandler was a top 35 recruit in the nation. Even though he went to Kentucky instead here, it is a big win for us since BYU does not have him. Utah and BYU are set up to fail miserably in the Big 12 which will turn the tables in our favor in recruiting Salt Lake and Utah County players.

Slim80 · Post by **Slim80** » April 16th, 2024, 8:20 am

SLB wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:07 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 7:13 am
and now Collin chandler is headed to Kentucky. Oh man I’ve been hearing cougar fans talk about him for what seems like 5 years
When I looked up BYU recruits after Pope leaving, Chandler was a top 35 recruit in the nation. Even though he went to Kentucky instead here, it is a big win for us since BYU does not have him. Utah and BYU are set up to fail miserably in the Big 12 which will turn the tables in our favor in recruiting Salt Lake and Utah County players.

I'd love to live in your world SLB.....even if it was only for a day.

ususports · Post by **ususports** » April 16th, 2024, 8:25 am

Slim80 wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:20 am

SLB wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:07 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 7:13 am
and now Collin chandler is headed to Kentucky. Oh man I’ve been hearing cougar fans talk about him for what seems like 5 years
When I looked up BYU recruits after Pope leaving, Chandler was a top 35 recruit in the nation. Even though he went to Kentucky instead here, it is a big win for us since BYU does not have him. Utah and BYU are set up to fail miserably in the Big 12 which will turn the tables in our favor in recruiting Salt Lake and Utah County players.
I'd love to live in your world SLB.....even if it was only for a day.

I wouldn’t. Not even for 30 seconds.

Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » April 16th, 2024, 8:29 am

SLB wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:07 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 7:13 am
and now Collin chandler is headed to Kentucky. Oh man I’ve been hearing cougar fans talk about him for what seems like 5 years
When I looked up BYU recruits after Pope leaving, Chandler was a top 35 recruit in the nation. Even though he went to Kentucky instead here, it is a big win for us since BYU does not have him. Utah and BYU are set up to fail miserably in the Big 12 which will turn the tables in our favor in recruiting Salt Lake and Utah County players.

We’ve been a better program for basically a decade, since 2016, and we still haven’t turned the tables. AAU coaches force their best kids to Provo and SLC or to bigger schools outside the state, and only send their scraps to Utah State. Then they get butt hurt when we don’t take all of them.

Only kids coming here are if they grew up Aggies like Sam Merrill or they don’t have any comparable D1 offers.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » April 16th, 2024, 8:32 am

BYU will always get theirs. It is what it is. Utah will largely depend on the coaching staff. Right now, they are going to get Utah kids with Burgess on staff. I feel like we have declined a bit with getting good Utah High School players. I actually feel that has more to do with AAU coaches getting the very best of Utah into the big schools in the country. We continue to get what we need to be good year after year. I don't see any of that changing any time soon. Ultimately, both of those programs can offer a lot more money to players than USU.

SLB · Post by **SLB** » April 16th, 2024, 8:39 am

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:29 am

SLB wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:07 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 7:13 am
and now Collin chandler is headed to Kentucky. Oh man I’ve been hearing cougar fans talk about him for what seems like 5 years
When I looked up BYU recruits after Pope leaving, Chandler was a top 35 recruit in the nation. Even though he went to Kentucky instead here, it is a big win for us since BYU does not have him. Utah and BYU are set up to fail miserably in the Big 12 which will turn the tables in our favor in recruiting Salt Lake and Utah County players.
We’ve been a better program for basically a decade, since 2016, and we still haven’t turned the tables. AAU coaches force their best kids to Provo and SLC or to bigger schools outside the state, and only send their scraps to Utah State. Then they get butt hurt when we don’t take all of them.

Only kids coming here are if they grew up Aggies like Sam Merrill or they don’t have any comparable D1 offers.

BYU had been in the NCAA tournament and had Mark Pope. BYU has their top players in the portal or committed to Kentucky.
Utah has Craig Smith, and Smith has the claim of 3 NCAA tournament with us. Smith's claim to fame has become dated.
Losing drives recruits away.
Winning wins over recruits.
When I speak of Salt Lake and Utah Couty players, I do not strictly speak of HS players.

tipitup · Post by **tipitup** » April 16th, 2024, 8:41 am

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:29 am

SLB wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:07 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 7:13 am
and now Collin chandler is headed to Kentucky. Oh man I’ve been hearing cougar fans talk about him for what seems like 5 years
When I looked up BYU recruits after Pope leaving, Chandler was a top 35 recruit in the nation. Even though he went to Kentucky instead here, it is a big win for us since BYU does not have him. Utah and BYU are set up to fail miserably in the Big 12 which will turn the tables in our favor in recruiting Salt Lake and Utah County players.
We’ve been a better program for basically a decade, since 2016, and we still haven’t turned the tables. AAU coaches force their best kids to Provo and SLC or to bigger schools outside the state, and only send their scraps to Utah State. Then they get butt hurt when we don’t take all of them.

Only kids coming here are if they grew up Aggies like Sam Merrill or they don’t have any comparable D1 offers.

Scraps?? mason falslev player of the year in utah, Isaac johnson player of the year in utah, dallin grant player of the year in utah, steven ashworth player of the year in utah. ya there probably are some scraps but those are not scraps!

Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » April 16th, 2024, 8:44 am

tipitup wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:41 am

Bullnamed_gus wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:29 am

SLB wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:07 am

slcagg wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 7:13 am
and now Collin chandler is headed to Kentucky. Oh man I’ve been hearing cougar fans talk about him for what seems like 5 years
When I looked up BYU recruits after Pope leaving, Chandler was a top 35 recruit in the nation. Even though he went to Kentucky instead here, it is a big win for us since BYU does not have him. Utah and BYU are set up to fail miserably in the Big 12 which will turn the tables in our favor in recruiting Salt Lake and Utah County players.
We’ve been a better program for basically a decade, since 2016, and we still haven’t turned the tables. AAU coaches force their best kids to Provo and SLC or to bigger schools outside the state, and only send their scraps to Utah State. Then they get butt hurt when we don’t take all of them.

Only kids coming here are if they grew up Aggies like Sam Merrill or they don’t have any comparable D1 offers.
Scraps?? mason falslev player of the year in utah, Isaac johnson player of the year in utah, dallin grant player of the year in utah, steven ashworth player of the year in utah. ya there probably are some scraps but those are not scraps!

Falslev: Committed to Utah out of HS. Also an Aggie his entire life.
Johnson: started at Oregon.
Grant: now transferring.
Ashworth: had basically big sky offers and us. What do you expect?

Go look at where their teammates went.

With the results we get as a program you’d think a competent AAU coach would be more willing send his kids here.

We do a good job at turning some of them into stars.

Roy McAvoy · Post by **Roy McAvoy** » April 16th, 2024, 8:46 am

I predict no byu players end up at USU and Dallin Hall ends up back at byu. Everything about that kid just screams byu to me.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » April 16th, 2024, 10:59 am

Dallin Hall is the Jon Scheyer of BYU basketball. He embodies the hate-able character.

Post by **aggies22** » April 16th, 2024, 1:49 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:46 am
I predict no byu players end up at USU and Dallin Hall ends up back at byu. Everything about that kid just screams byu to me.

I agree my Aggie brother. I don't have reason to believe any byu guys end up here either.

Aggie4L1fe · Post by **Aggie4L1fe** » April 16th, 2024, 1:53 pm

aggies22 wrote:
Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:46 am
I predict no byu players end up at USU and Dallin Hall ends up back at byu. Everything about that kid just screams byu to me.
I agree my Aggie brother. I don't have reason to believe any byu guys end up here either.

Do you have reason to believe there won’t be many open roster spots? #Runitback

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hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » April 16th, 2024, 2:03 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 1:49 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑
April 16th, 2024, 8:46 am
I predict no byu players end up at USU and Dallin Hall ends up back at byu. Everything about that kid just screams byu to me.
I agree my Aggie brother. I don't have reason to believe any byu guys end up here either.

I’m hoping byu is dumb enough to pay Hall cause with Kevin Young at the helm the competition for recruits just got tougher. Let Hall’s presence discourage better players from going there.

thrashsoundly · Post by **thrashsoundly** » April 16th, 2024, 2:18 pm

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
April 15th, 2024, 8:13 am

thrashsoundly wrote:We don't. We need to set our expectations higher.
We can't sign a PG from Queens and then say we are too good for any players on a team that was top 20 most of the year and a higher seed than we have ever been.

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Sure, but at the same time the result at the end of the season speaks for itself. We've had many talented players in Aggie uniforms over the last 20+ years and haven't cracked the post-season ceiling until this year. BYU arguably has talented players, but I don't think any of them will propel USU in the direction we want to go. With open transfers, the possibilities are much bigger than they used to be, and a coach should be able to find the right pieces to get results, not just sign talented kids because they're convenient.

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