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Aggie_Watch · Post by **Aggie_Watch** » March 14th, 2023, 8:41 pm

Full wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 8:15 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 7:00 pm
We found a way to screw Duryea out of a year's salary, are we sure there aren't any "loopholes" here?
Sticking to the date specified on the contract isn’t a “loophole.” The date on the contract is April 15, 2025.

https://www.usustats.com/goodies/contra ... ntract.pdf

Looks like she violated the conduct code of her contract. Unless having an affair does not count!!

stang · Post by **stang** » March 14th, 2023, 9:10 pm

Full wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 8:15 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 7:00 pm
We found a way to screw Duryea out of a year's salary, are we sure there aren't any "loopholes" here?
Sticking to the date specified on the contract isn’t a “loophole.” The date on the contract is April 15, 2025.

https://www.usustats.com/goodies/contra ... ntract.pdf

I say this mostly tongue-in-cheek as a joke. I'm no lawyer and won't pretend to know anything about how contracts work.

LarryTheAggie · Post by **LarryTheAggie** » March 14th, 2023, 9:11 pm

Aggie_Watch wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 8:41 pm

Full wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 8:15 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 7:00 pm
We found a way to screw Duryea out of a year's salary, are we sure there aren't any "loopholes" here?
Sticking to the date specified on the contract isn’t a “loophole.” The date on the contract is April 15, 2025.

https://www.usustats.com/goodies/contra ... ntract.pdf
Looks like she violated the conduct code of her contract. Unless having an affair does not count!!

Sleeping with someone is not a fireable offense in this country. Unless that somebody is a minor.

Now if there is proof that she was/is abusive to the players, you may be onto something.

Aggie_Watch · Post by **Aggie_Watch** » March 14th, 2023, 9:22 pm

LarryTheAggie wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 9:11 pm

Aggie_Watch wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 8:41 pm

Full wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 8:15 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 14th, 2023, 7:00 pm
We found a way to screw Duryea out of a year's salary, are we sure there aren't any "loopholes" here?
Sticking to the date specified on the contract isn’t a “loophole.” The date on the contract is April 15, 2025.

https://www.usustats.com/goodies/contra ... ntract.pdf
Looks like she violated the conduct code of her contract. Unless having an affair does not count!!
Sleeping with someone is not a fireable offense in this country. Unless that somebody is a minor.

Now if there is proof that she was/is abusive to the players, you may be onto something.

I do know last year players went to Bovee and made complaints regarding coaches behavior. They considered it to be borderline abusive and hartwell ignored it. In fact Kayla demanded to know what players and coaches complained.

Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » March 14th, 2023, 11:04 pm

Sounds like retaliation, fire up the forced resignation play. Let’s get our girls a respectable coach

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » March 15th, 2023, 11:44 am

How good is attendance when the team is winning? In Men's basketball she'd obviously be fired already, but in a nonrevenue sport I can see the dollars and cents reasons for keeping her. Hopefully they hire a more qualified candidate the next time around.

aggie276 · Post by **aggie276** » March 15th, 2023, 3:17 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑
March 15th, 2023, 11:44 am
How good is attendance when the team is winning? In Men's basketball she'd obviously be fired already, but in a nonrevenue sport I can see the dollars and cents reasons for keeping her. Hopefully they hire a more qualified candidate the next time around.

Hard to know, when they haven’t won in a while. New Mexico and Wyoming pull in lots of fans. Fresno somehow ranked 3rd in attendance in the conference year, and they also had a pretty pitiful season. UNLV was able to start drawing crowds since they kept winning. seems like it would be doable to draw crowds of 1-2K if there was some more winning and a more interesting product on the floor.

aggie276 · Post by **aggie276** » March 15th, 2023, 3:18 pm

noticed an opening for an assistant coach posted 4 weeks ago. Wonder which assistant is leaving and why? par for the course in Ard’s tenure, ain’t it…

stang · Post by **stang** » March 15th, 2023, 9:34 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:How good is attendance when the team is winning? In Men's basketball she'd obviously be fired already, but in a nonrevenue sport I can see the dollars and cents reasons for keeping her. Hopefully they hire a more qualified candidate the next time around.

Well let’s see. In the 33 years of the program’s history, we have zero NCAA appearances and two WNIT appearances. We’ve had exactly one (1) 20-plus win season ever and since the reinstatement of the program 20 years ago we’ve had six seasons over .500.

So it’s really tough to say, to be honest.

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Aggie_Watch · Post by **Aggie_Watch** » March 25th, 2023, 9:01 am

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March 13th, 2023, 11:17 pm
Unless someone shows up with a $300,000 check I don’t think Ard is going anywhere. If anything does happen it would be within the next week.

I would say it just isn’t a priority.

If Odom leaves maybe we can use some of the buyout money and get rid of Ard.

stang · Post by **stang** » March 25th, 2023, 10:17 am

Aggie_Watch wrote: ↑
March 25th, 2023, 9:01 am

rAggie wrote: ↑
March 13th, 2023, 11:17 pm
Unless someone shows up with a $300,000 check I don’t think Ard is going anywhere. If anything does happen it would be within the next week.

I would say it just isn’t a priority.
If Odom leaves maybe we can use some of the buyout money and get rid of Ard.

As great as that sounds, that would require our administration to give a single solitary damn about the women't team, which it has proven over and over again that it does not.

Bullnamed_gus · Post by **Bullnamed_gus** » March 25th, 2023, 2:12 pm

Literally all we have to do is give written instructions to simply not lose ti Dixie State by 100, which is reasonable and well within her job description, and then we could fire her for cause, simple!

garyismyhomeboy · Post by **garyismyhomeboy** » March 25th, 2023, 7:11 pm

I saw Coach A golfing a lot this past year. Start a women’s golf program?

Aggie_Watch · Post by **Aggie_Watch** » March 25th, 2023, 8:08 pm

garyismyhomeboy wrote: ↑
March 25th, 2023, 7:11 pm
I saw Coach A golfing a lot this past year. Start a women’s golf program?

only one reason she was golfing so much!!!

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » March 27th, 2023, 8:14 am

Wasn't the golf coach helping her with her stroke?

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » March 27th, 2023, 10:37 am

stang wrote: ↑
March 15th, 2023, 9:34 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote:How good is attendance when the team is winning? In Men's basketball she'd obviously be fired already, but in a nonrevenue sport I can see the dollars and cents reasons for keeping her. Hopefully they hire a more qualified candidate the next time around.
Well let’s see. In the 33 years of the program’s history, we have zero NCAA appearances and two WNIT appearances. We’ve had exactly one (1) 20-plus win season ever and since the reinstatement of the program 20 years ago we’ve had six seasons over .500.

So it’s really tough to say, to be honest.

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Lol that's pretty bad

Aggie_Watch · Post by **Aggie_Watch** » March 27th, 2023, 2:02 pm

NVAggie wrote: ↑
March 27th, 2023, 8:14 am
Wasn't the golf coach helping her with her stroke?

stang · Post by **stang** » March 28th, 2023, 2:36 pm

Looks like Cristina Oliva is hitting the portal. Started about half of last season's games.

By my count, that leaves us with six remaining players (one starter)

Aggie_Watch · Post by **Aggie_Watch** » March 28th, 2023, 2:45 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:36 pm
Looks like Cristina Oliva is hitting the portal. Started about half of last season's games.

By my count, that leaves us with six remaining players (one starter)

So we should have a really good year next year

stang · Post by **stang** » March 28th, 2023, 2:49 pm

Aggie_Watch wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:45 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:36 pm
Looks like Cristina Oliva is hitting the portal. Started about half of last season's games.

By my count, that leaves us with six remaining players (one starter)
So we should have a really good year next year

Well it would certainly be tough to be worse, but never say never.

aggie276 · Post by **aggie276** » March 28th, 2023, 6:02 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:49 pm

Aggie_Watch wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:45 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:36 pm
Looks like Cristina Oliva is hitting the portal. Started about half of last season's games.

By my count, that leaves us with six remaining players (one starter)
So we should have a really good year next year
Well it would certainly be tough to be worse, but never say never.

She wasn’t particularly talented but still losing someone who played a decent sized role hurts. Wonder if anyone else will join her in the portal.

Also, what is the likelihood of attracting talent? Had a hard time doing that last season, and Ard was signing players up until August.

can’t get any easier when you have had a season like this past one.

stang · Post by **stang** » March 28th, 2023, 8:06 pm

aggie276 wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 6:02 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:49 pm

Aggie_Watch wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:45 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:36 pm
Looks like Cristina Oliva is hitting the portal. Started about half of last season's games.

By my count, that leaves us with six remaining players (one starter)
So we should have a really good year next year
Well it would certainly be tough to be worse, but never say never.
She wasn’t particularly talented but still losing someone who played a decent sized role hurts. Wonder if anyone else will join her in the portal.

Also, what is the likelihood of attracting talent? Had a hard time doing that last season, and Ard was signing players up until August. can’t get any easier when you have had a season like this past one.

I have to believe it will be very, very difficult to recruit anyone to the program right now. It's hard to imagine anyone with any other D1 opportunities choosing to go to a 4-win team that turns over most of its roster every offseason.

aggie276 · Post by **aggie276** » March 28th, 2023, 8:09 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 8:06 pm

aggie276 wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 6:02 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:49 pm

Aggie_Watch wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:45 pm

stang wrote: ↑
March 28th, 2023, 2:36 pm
Looks like Cristina Oliva is hitting the portal. Started about half of last season's games.

By my count, that leaves us with six remaining players (one starter)
So we should have a really good year next year
Well it would certainly be tough to be worse, but never say never.
She wasn’t particularly talented but still losing someone who played a decent sized role hurts. Wonder if anyone else will join her in the portal.

Also, what is the likelihood of attracting talent? Had a hard time doing that last season, and Ard was signing players up until August. can’t get any easier when you have had a season like this past one.
I have to believe it will be very, very difficult to recruit anyone to the program right now. It's hard to imagine anyone with any other D1 opportunities choosing to go to a 4-win team that turns over most of its roster every offseason.

Yeah. Precisely. Maybe some people in the portal who are just desperate for a landing place, anywhere. Guessing she’ll have to dip into juco or grab some unsigned freshman who will come in pretty inexperienced. it will be refreshing to have a change in coaching staff if they can bring in someone who actually can build the culture of the program as well as make it incrementally more successful (eventually and hopefully).

Aggie_Watch · Post by **Aggie_Watch** » April 6th, 2023, 2:55 pm

looks like Tamiah, their best returner, is in the portal. But are we even surprised by this at this point

aggie276 · Post by **aggie276** » April 6th, 2023, 4:38 pm

Aggie_Watch wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 2:55 pm
looks like Tamiah, their best returner, is in the portal. But are we even surprised by this at this point

So how many players are left? 4 or 5? and the portal is still open. Not quite sure how they are going to manage to fill the roster, no successful track record to boast.

stang · Post by **stang** » April 6th, 2023, 4:44 pm

aggie276 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 4:38 pm

Aggie_Watch wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 2:55 pm
looks like Tamiah, their best returner, is in the portal. But are we even surprised by this at this point
So how many players are left? 4 or 5? and the portal is still open. Not quite sure how they are going to manage to fill the roster, no successful track record to boast.

By my count, that's five returning players with zero returning starters.

So basically a complete reset for the third-straight year.

aggie276 · Post by **aggie276** » April 6th, 2023, 5:04 pm

stang wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 4:44 pm

aggie276 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 4:38 pm

Aggie_Watch wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 2:55 pm
looks like Tamiah, their best returner, is in the portal. But are we even surprised by this at this point
So how many players are left? 4 or 5? and the portal is still open. Not quite sure how they are going to manage to fill the roster, no successful track record to boast.
By my count, that's five returning players with zero returning starters.

So basically a complete reset for the third-straight year.

And not only the financial piece but now Bovee has to find a new men’s coach (which is super important, absolutely), so she’ll just continue to run the program into the ground, again.

aggie276 · Post by **aggie276** » April 6th, 2023, 7:52 pm

If anyone is interested, this is what they (currently, barring any other transfers out), return next year. 14.3 points per game, combined. I don’t even think they can pull someone from the portal that averages over 14 points per game by themselves. not with Kayla Ards track record.

Aggie84025 · Post by **Aggie84025** » April 6th, 2023, 9:31 pm

aggie276 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 7:52 pm
If anyone is interested, this is what they (currently, barring any other transfers out), return next year. 14.3 points per game, combined. I don’t even think they can pull someone from the portal that averages over 14 points per game by themselves. not with Kayla Ards track record.

That is currently more than the men's team. The men's team could legitimately not return any scoring production or any player that actually played for them this last year.

TheAKAggie · Post by **TheAKAggie** » April 6th, 2023, 10:49 pm

aggie276 wrote:If anyone is interested, this is what they (currently, barring any other transfers out), return next year. 14.3 points per game, combined. I don’t even think they can pull someone from the portal that averages over 14 points per game by themselves. not with Kayla Ards track record.

Always hard to rebuild when you lose half your scoring output from the previous year.

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aggie276 · Post by **aggie276** » April 7th, 2023, 5:50 am

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 9:31 pm

aggie276 wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 7:52 pm
If anyone is interested, this is what they (currently, barring any other transfers out), return next year. 14.3 points per game, combined. I don’t even think they can pull someone from the portal that averages over 14 points per game by themselves. not with Kayla Ards track record.

That is currently more than the men's team. The men's team could legitimately not return any scoring production or any player that actually played for them this last year.

And yet somehow, I still think they’ll have a better season than the women’s team. Maybe not a good season, but better than the women’s team (which really shouldn’t be that hard to do).

aggie276 · Post by **aggie276** » April 7th, 2023, 5:50 am

TheAKAggie wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 10:49 pm

aggie276 wrote:If anyone is interested, this is what they (currently, barring any other transfers out), return next year. 14.3 points per game, combined. I don’t even think they can pull someone from the portal that averages over 14 points per game by themselves. not with Kayla Ards track record.

Always hard to rebuild when you lose half your scoring output from the previous year.

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Yep. And there’s one common denominator amongst all the transferring out. Hint: it’s the coach.

TheAKAggie · Post by **TheAKAggie** » April 7th, 2023, 6:17 am

aggie276 wrote:
TheAKAggie wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 10:49 pm

aggie276 wrote:If anyone is interested, this is what they (currently, barring any other transfers out), return next year. 14.3 points per game, combined. I don’t even think they can pull someone from the portal that averages over 14 points per game by themselves. not with Kayla Ards track record.

Always hard to rebuild when you lose half your scoring output from the previous year.

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Yep. And there’s one common denominator amongst all the transferring out. Hint: it’s the coach.

Bro, chill, she’s on twitter. Can’t be that bad.

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aggie276 · Post by **aggie276** » April 7th, 2023, 8:53 am

TheAKAggie wrote: ↑
April 7th, 2023, 6:17 am

aggie276 wrote:
TheAKAggie wrote: ↑
April 6th, 2023, 10:49 pm

aggie276 wrote:If anyone is interested, this is what they (currently, barring any other transfers out), return next year. 14.3 points per game, combined. I don’t even think they can pull someone from the portal that averages over 14 points per game by themselves. not with Kayla Ards track record.

Always hard to rebuild when you lose half your scoring output from the previous year.

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Yep. And there’s one common denominator amongst all the transferring out. Hint: it’s the coach.
Bro, chill, she’s on twitter. Can’t be that bad.

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the inspirational quotes on her Instagram should be good enough to convince everyone she’s doing a great job, right?

stang · Post by **stang** » April 7th, 2023, 8:57 am

Lol if the men's team had a season anywhere NEAR as miserable as the past five WBB seasons, this board would rally and gather pitchforks and burn the spectrum to the ground out of anger.

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