USU Women's Bball

OKAggie · Post by **OKAggie** » November 29th, 2023, 12:30 pm

gwaggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2023, 12:15 pm
Update: not as fun when the kids never get to cheer for made Aggie baskets. 60-30 Idaho after the 3rd 🥲

Was this for all valley kids? Or just the ones who were being punished?

918AGG · Post by **918AGG** » November 29th, 2023, 12:32 pm

gwaggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2023, 12:15 pm
Update: not as fun when the kids never get to cheer for made Aggie baskets. 60-30 Idaho after the 3rd 🥲

What exactly is there to like about this Aggie team?

I've been watching for a few minutes and the only thing that I've seen that I really care for is bringing Stubbs through a bunch of screens and getting her the ball near the bucket.

We play such a sad, selfish, fundamental-less, inept form of basketball. It's really disheartening.

nelsentheaggie · Post by **nelsentheaggie** » November 29th, 2023, 12:40 pm

Idaho isn’t horrible but they aren’t good, either. They hired a decently successful D2 coach coming into this season. And absolutely smacked our team with a 4th year head coach.

I also find it interesting that Kayla’s post game interviews seem to emphasize the team not following the game plan & not buying in. She doesn’t think it’s a talent problem. In my opinion, it’s definitely a talent problem; but it’s more than that a coaching problem. Can’t keep blaming the players for “not following the game plan” when the results keep ending up this way. That’s a coaching problem.

Coloraggie · Post by **Coloraggie** » November 29th, 2023, 12:42 pm

Kayla before game: OK team, here is our game plan, lets score more points than the other team.
Kayla after game: It is the players fault because the team didn't follow our game plan.

918AGG · Post by **918AGG** » November 29th, 2023, 1:02 pm

The Body Language Doctor is in session.

I'll add that the body language of so many players was atrocious at the end of the game.

Stubbs, one of the best players on the team, looked like she was super disinterested and ready to head home. I can't blame her.

gwaggie · Post by **gwaggie** » November 29th, 2023, 1:46 pm

918AGG wrote:The Body Language Doctor is in session.

I'll add that the body language of so many players was atrocious at the end of the game.

Stubbs, one of the best players on the team, looked like she was super disinterested and ready to head home. I can't blame her.

I actually almost took a picture of Kayla a couple times throughout the game because I remember noticing that her body language was terrible. Throughout the whole game I saw no enthusiasm or energy. If your HC is like that in the first quarter of course the teams gonna be like that by the end (which we actually outscored them in the 4th)

QuackAttackAggie · Post by **QuackAttackAggie** » November 29th, 2023, 3:26 pm

we are 23/96 from 3 as a team. 24%. that puts us at 307th out of 348 teams.

we are 312th in assist to turnover ratio as well.

NVAggie · Post by **NVAggie** » November 29th, 2023, 3:51 pm

So the women's team shoots better than Max A.

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » November 29th, 2023, 5:03 pm

I was able to watch today's game from work, and WOOF. I mean, wow.

Don't let our three early wins fool you, this team is every bit as bad if not worse than last year's. As 918 said, there's just not really anything to like. I do think that the players seem to play a bit harder than last year, but this roster just has so little talent, and least talented of all is the head coach. She has no business being anywhere near a college basketball program. I wouldn't hire her as director of ops for a Jr. Jazz team. It's so abundantly clear that this team's struggles (beyond simple lack of talent, which, by the way, also goes back to coaching), all stem from a coach who is in so far over her head that she can't even see the surface any more. It's malpractice, it's embarrassing, and our players and fans deserve so much better than that.

I've held back this year and given the team a shot, but today was one of the worst performances I've ever seen by an Aggie WBB team, and that is really saying something.

I was planning on making the trek to Logan to attend a handful of games this year, and I will no longer be doing that.

Pull the plug, Diana.

nelsentheaggie · Post by **nelsentheaggie** » November 30th, 2023, 5:35 am

shoresy wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2023, 5:03 pm
I was able to watch today's game from work, and WOOF. I mean, wow.

Don't let our three early wins fool you, this team is every bit as bad if not worse than last year's. As 918 said, there's just not really anything to like. I do think that the players seem to play a bit harder than last year, but this roster just has so little talent, and least talented of all is the head coach. She has no business being anywhere near a college basketball program. I wouldn't hire her as director of ops for a Jr. Jazz team. It's so abundantly clear that this team's struggles (beyond simple lack of talent, which, by the way, also goes back to coaching), all stem from a coach who is in so far over her head that she can't even see the surface any more. It's malpractice, it's embarrassing, and our players and fans deserve so much better than that.

I've held back this year and given the team a shot, but today was one of the worst performances I've ever seen by an Aggie WBB team, and that is really saying something.

I was planning on making the trek to Logan to attend a handful of games this year, and I will no longer be doing that.

Pull the plug, Diana.

I’ve really appreciated your willingness to be cautiously optimistic about them, but I do agree with all of this. I’m afraid this is so much a repeat of what we’ve seen throughout Kayla’s tenure. And don’t get me wrong, the Finkbeiner era was not good either. But somehow this is worse, and keeps getting worse. It’s sad the the most talented team she had (in 2021-22) had everyone with eligibility transfer. But it’s clear the raw talent of that team carried her that season, too.

I doubt Diana will do anything in season, but I say for a multitude of reasons, eating the buyout after the season is over is worth it at this point.

Aggie1984 · Post by **Aggie1984** » November 30th, 2023, 8:47 am

Coloraggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2023, 12:42 pm
Kayla before game: OK team, here is our game plan, lets score more points than the other team.
Kayla after game: It is the players fault because the team didn't follow our game plan.

All that great coaching for the bargain price of $215,000.00 a year. Seems like we got a steal

918AGG · Post by **918AGG** » November 30th, 2023, 9:03 am

Aggie1984 wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2023, 8:47 am

Coloraggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2023, 12:42 pm
Kayla before game: OK team, here is our game plan, lets score more points than the other team.
Kayla after game: It is the players fault because the team didn't follow our game plan.
All that great coaching for the bargain price of $215,000.00 a year. Seems like we got a steal

That's so embarrassing.

Hoot · Post by **Hoot** » November 30th, 2023, 9:33 am

Aggie1984 wrote: ↑
November 30th, 2023, 8:47 am

Coloraggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2023, 12:42 pm
Kayla before game: OK team, here is our game plan, lets score more points than the other team.
Kayla after game: It is the players fault because the team didn't follow our game plan.
All that great coaching for the bargain price of $215,000.00 a year. Seems like we got a steal

I could do the same thing for half.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » November 30th, 2023, 9:48 am

QuackAttackAggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2023, 3:26 pm
we are 23/96 from 3 as a team. 24%. that puts us at 307th out of 348 teams.

we are 312th in assist to turnover ratio as well.

Rich County HS girls BB team would give us a run for our money

Post by **treesap32** » December 3rd, 2023, 9:59 pm

NVAggie wrote: ↑
November 29th, 2023, 3:51 pm
So the women's team shoots better than Max A.

Twice as good.

nelsentheaggie · Post by **nelsentheaggie** » December 5th, 2023, 6:00 am

We’re 324 in the first NET. UNLV is 11. Great thing they’re televising our game against them at the end of this month.

Post by **treesap32** » December 5th, 2023, 10:01 am

324 out of 360 schools.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » December 5th, 2023, 10:03 am

nelsentheaggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2023, 6:00 am
We’re 324 in the first NET. UNLV is 11. Great thing they’re televising our game against them at the end of this month.

This is going to be almost as embarrassing as HS girls team that beat up on some school 98-0

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » December 5th, 2023, 10:06 am

treesap32 wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2023, 10:01 am
324 out of 360 schools.

I bet Cal Tech's women's BB team could beat us this year, and that's saying something because they don't give scholarships to actual athletes!

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » December 5th, 2023, 11:07 am

And today we've got BYU. At 72, they're the third highest NET team we'll play this year. About 100 spots higher than the team that just beat us by 27.

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » December 5th, 2023, 11:07 am

MW Net Rankings
11 - UNLV
64 - Colorado State
94 - Wyoming
122 - Boise State
179 - San Diego State
185 - Fresno State
186 - New Mexico
199 - Air Force
206 - Nevada
255 - San Jose State
322 - Utah State

That's 67 spots separating us from 10th place.

ViAggie · Post by **ViAggie** » December 5th, 2023, 2:08 pm

I'm surprised to see we only lost to Weber by 10 points. And ybu just got THUMPED by Utah (19 points). I'm guessing we'll only get beat 90-42 by the koogs.

Post by **treesap32** » December 5th, 2023, 3:00 pm

Should we do a Predict The Score game for the Women's team?

Utah State 29
BYU 84

Aggie_Watch · Post by **Aggie_Watch** » December 5th, 2023, 3:18 pm

treesap32 wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2023, 3:00 pm
Should we do a Predict The Score game for the Women's team?

Utah State 29
BYU 84

usufan1 · Post by **usufan1** » December 5th, 2023, 3:29 pm

treesap32 wrote:Should we do a Predict The Score game for the Women's team?

Utah State 29
BYU 84

As they are currently down 20-7 after the 1st quarter, I'd say that you are probably going to be pretty close.

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Aggie_Watch · Post by **Aggie_Watch** » December 5th, 2023, 3:55 pm

usufan1 wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2023, 3:29 pm

treesap32 wrote:Should we do a Predict The Score game for the Women's team?

Utah State 29
BYU 84
As they are currently down 20-7 after the 1st quarter, I'd say that you are probably going to be pretty close.

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They actually outscored BYU second quarter and are only down by 10

usu99 · Post by **usu99** » December 5th, 2023, 4:41 pm

DOWN 3 53-50!!! WOOW

918AGG · Post by **918AGG** » December 5th, 2023, 4:43 pm

usu99 wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2023, 4:41 pm
DOWN 3 53-50!!! WOOW

This could be the shock of the year if we pull it off.

usu99 · Post by **usu99** » December 5th, 2023, 4:58 pm

that is some really bad basketball to watch... We have like 5 travelling calls since I started watching it seems.

NEAggie · Post by **NEAggie** » December 5th, 2023, 4:59 pm

ViAggie wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2023, 2:08 pm
I'm surprised to see we only lost to Weber by 10 points. And ybu just got THUMPED by Utah (19 points). I'm guessing we'll only get beat 90-42 by the koogs.

USU actually beat Weber by 10. Hanging in there against the Zoobs

918AGG · Post by **918AGG** » December 5th, 2023, 5:02 pm

usu99 wrote: ↑
December 5th, 2023, 4:58 pm
that is some really bad basketball to watch... We have like 5 travelling calls since I started watching it seems.

Defensive fundamentals are severely lacking. A lot of reaching and ripping at the ball when we need hands up and feet planted. Ard should be teaching this, right?

Aggie formerly in Hawaii · Post by **Aggie formerly in Hawaii** » December 5th, 2023, 5:11 pm

Impressed with the team tonight. This is the type of team that would make the legendary Jerry Finkbeiner proud.

nelsentheaggie · Post by **nelsentheaggie** » December 5th, 2023, 5:34 pm

they played well-ish- I guess it’s good that they can get on for a rivalry game right? And helps when your opponent misses 14 free throws, too. Guess we will see if that translates to anything. I still don’t think it will in conference.

crazywookie · Post by **crazywookie** » December 5th, 2023, 6:03 pm

I keep think of starting a thread. Which random inanimate object, animal, or anything would be a better coach than Coach Ard.

The Simpsons joke about the inanimate carbon rod comes to mind.

This thread is such a train wreck I now look forward to seeing what hopeless thing comes up next.

shoresy · Post by **shoresy** » December 5th, 2023, 8:39 pm

Watched the whole game this afternoon, and that was one of the most impressive performances I've seen in the last few years. They looked really solid, played good defense, worked as a team and responded well to an atrocious start.

I was also pretty unimpressed with BYU, it will be interesting to see how their season pans out. They seem to have a lot of talent but be extremely poorly coached.

The biggest difference between good teams and bad teams though is consistency. We've shown that we can be a good team but just haven't done it with much consistency, so playing a poor Utah Valley team on Saturday should be a good test.

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