Inmates Running the Asylum

YoungBloodAggie · Post by **YoungBloodAggie** » May 27th, 2015, 11:27 am

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8656 ... ector.html

Psych · Post by **Psych** » May 27th, 2015, 11:30 am

I'm curious why people have issues with her. Especially with her being recognized as a top 10 SWA.

aceofspadeskb · Post by **aceofspadeskb** » May 27th, 2015, 11:41 am

I don't see the problem here. If she was hired, I still wouldn't see the problem.

tbadge · Post by **tbadge** » May 27th, 2015, 12:36 pm

I honestly couldn't say if she's the most qualified person for the job. Is she the most senior person in the AD office right now and perhaps that's why she was named as interim AD? I'm too lazy to look it up.

Insert any candidates name here for either interim AD or actual replacement AD and people will have an issue. Why? Personal interactions, hearsay from people working in the AD office, Google search biases, etc. Some of the concerns may actually be legitimate.

Many of us may go through the stages of grief when SB is actually replaced much like when Duryea replaced Stew (BTW, I'm on Step 5 now with Duryea replacing Stew).

http://www.recover-from-grief.com/7-sta ... grief.html

The Truth · Post by **The Truth** » May 27th, 2015, 12:42 pm

this "national search" for the next AD can't end soon enough. please stan leroy, get this hire right and get it done quickly - we can only afford to have this situation for a very brief time. jana and and her boy-wonder kent can't be left in charge without repercussions.

JSHarvey · Post by **JSHarvey** » May 27th, 2015, 1:27 pm

The Truth wrote:this "national search" for the next AD can't end soon enough. please stan leroy, get this hire right and get it done quickly - we can only afford to have this situation for a very brief time. jana and and her boy-wonder kent can't be left in charge without repercussions.

Enlighten us please.

Psych · Post by **Psych** » May 27th, 2015, 1:35 pm

JSHarvey wrote:
The Truth wrote:this "national search" for the next AD can't end soon enough. please stan leroy, get this hire right and get it done quickly - we can only afford to have this situation for a very brief time. jana and and her boy-wonder kent can't be left in charge without repercussions.
Enlighten us please.

Yes, is there some Mayan prophecy saying they would tear the department apart?

USUBlue · Post by **USUBlue** » May 27th, 2015, 1:46 pm

JSHarvey wrote:
The Truth wrote:this "national search" for the next AD can't end soon enough. please stan leroy, get this hire right and get it done quickly - we can only afford to have this situation for a very brief time. jana and and her boy-wonder kent can't be left in charge without repercussions.
Enlighten us please.

She is the consummate government bureaucrat if that's what you want in an AD -- probably not too different from Spetman. Alumni relations will suffer greatly, coaching hires and retention will take a step back, and maintaining will become more important than building.

TheOpportunity · Post by **TheOpportunity** » May 27th, 2015, 1:57 pm

Psych wrote:I'm curious why people have issues with her. Especially with her being recognized as a top 10 SWA.

I'm with you. I'm not qualified to have a strong opinion of her because i don't know all that much about her. However, I do know that the board loves to be dramatic and overreact to just about everything. Duryea was the WORST hire. Weber is the WORST OL coach. Baldwin was the WORST OC. The list goes on and on. So I try to take stuff like this with an enormous grain of salt.

USUBlue · Post by **USUBlue** » May 27th, 2015, 1:59 pm

TheOpportunity wrote:
Psych wrote:I'm curious why people have issues with her. Especially with her being recognized as a top 10 SWA.
I'm with you. I'm not qualified to have a strong opinion of her because i don't know all that much about her. However, I do know that the board loves to be dramatic and overreact to just about everything. Duryea was the WORST hire. Weber is the WORST OL coach. Baldwin was the WORST OC. The list goes on and on. So I try to take stuff like this with an enormous grain of salt.

Nothing like incest to make for an interesting dynamic -- breeding (I mean hiring from within) in every situation -- what can be wrong with that.

918AGG · Post by **918AGG** » May 27th, 2015, 2:08 pm

From the information that I have been able to gather, it seems like she played a very significant role in the SEZ debacle. That alone should disqualify her from the position... Sort of like a really bad answer to the "why are manhole covers round" question in an interview...

Jjoey52 · Post by **Jjoey52** » May 27th, 2015, 2:16 pm

Remember this is only an interim thing thru the summer. Don't think too much is going on then anyway.

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TheOpportunity · Post by **TheOpportunity** » May 27th, 2015, 2:23 pm

USUBlue wrote:
TheOpportunity wrote:
Psych wrote:I'm curious why people have issues with her. Especially with her being recognized as a top 10 SWA.
I'm with you. I'm not qualified to have a strong opinion of her because i don't know all that much about her. However, I do know that the board loves to be dramatic and overreact to just about everything. Duryea was the WORST hire. Weber is the WORST OL coach. Baldwin was the WORST OC. The list goes on and on. So I try to take stuff like this with an enormous grain of salt.
Nothing like incest to make for an interesting dynamic -- breeding (I mean hiring from within) in every situation -- what can be wrong with that.

I see no problem with hiring internally for positions if you have your house in order, you have qualified candidates, and you are looking for continuity. If you have the right candidate in-house already, then go for it. You obviously shouldn't just hand it to them by default, and in situations where we have hired internally I don't think we have.

In regards to this particular situation, this is an interim hire. Freaking out about it seems pretty off base to me.

Psych · Post by **Psych** » May 27th, 2015, 2:47 pm

TheOpportunity wrote:
I see no problem with hiring internally for positions if you have your house in order, you have qualified candidates, and you are looking for continuity. If you have the right candidate in-house already, then go for it. You obviously shouldn't just hand it to them by default, and in situations where we have hired internally I don't think we have.

In regards to this particular situation, this is an interim hire. Freaking out about it seems pretty off base to me.

Agreed. Pretty sure internal hiring is quite a common practice in many industries. Even if she was behind the "SEZ situation" that doesn't define her leadership ability.

And to reemphasize, this is just for the interim. People do realize the difference right?

Can we go back to discussing football now?

AggieBlues · Post by **AggieBlues** » May 27th, 2015, 3:03 pm

Uhhh pardon the ignorance, but...what is this "SEZ situation"? I thought both end zones were the wrong color of blue

No really, I'm somehow unaware of the situation with the SEZ. Too much concrete? Permanent old ugly logos on permanent structures? Merlin's statue leans a bit to the west? The blue gates don't work very good? The SEZ ticket office on game day is slower than molasses?

tbadge · Post by **tbadge** » May 27th, 2015, 4:18 pm

AggieBlues wrote:Uhhh pardon the ignorance, but...what is this "SEZ situation"? I thought both end zones were the wrong color of blue

No really, I'm somehow unaware of the situation with the SEZ. Too much concrete? Permanent old ugly logos on permanent structures? Merlin's statue leans a bit to the west? The blue gates don't work very good? The SEZ ticket office on game day is slower than molasses?

The chairbacks that were added in the SEZ didn't go over well. Very few people bought chairs in that section and those that did found out that the legroom between different rows was different.

JSHarvey · Post by **JSHarvey** » May 27th, 2015, 4:43 pm

USUBlue wrote:
TheOpportunity wrote:
Psych wrote:I'm curious why people have issues with her. Especially with her being recognized as a top 10 SWA.
I'm with you. I'm not qualified to have a strong opinion of her because i don't know all that much about her. However, I do know that the board loves to be dramatic and overreact to just about everything. Duryea was the WORST hire. Weber is the WORST OL coach. Baldwin was the WORST OC. The list goes on and on. So I try to take stuff like this with an enormous grain of salt.
Nothing like incest to make for an interesting dynamic -- breeding (I mean hiring from within) in every situation -- what can be wrong with that.

Well USU's President (who most on this board seem to think has been a god send for athletics) was an internal hire. Also Matt Wells.

snoel · Post by **snoel** » May 27th, 2015, 4:59 pm

Why should it matter whether the best person for the job is in Alabama or in Logan? The concern, I think, is or should be whether the interim person really is the best for the job, or whether he/she is getting a "shot at the job" chiefly or even somewhat because we already know them, like them, etc. For me, if they really are the best candidate we can pull in, then I'm ok with it. If not, then we need to find that person and hire them, regardless of our feelings for the interim candidate.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » May 27th, 2015, 5:21 pm

918AGG wrote:From the information that I have been able to gather, it seems like she played a very significant role in the SEZ debacle. That alone should disqualify her from the position... Sort of like a really bad answer to the "why are manhole covers round" question in an interview...

She spent time over the ticket office if I'm not mistaken and saw nothing wrong with it. Another black mark.

GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » May 27th, 2015, 5:41 pm

Even if you guys don't like her, you can at least save your complaining for if she gets the permanent job. You just don't have that many options as to who you get to do something on an interim basis.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » May 27th, 2015, 5:50 pm

I don't see people "freaking out" but I think people are nervous that "interim" turns into permanent.

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Sr. Tubastank · Post by **Sr. Tubastank** » May 27th, 2015, 7:13 pm

As mentioned above she was responsible for the SEZ debacle. She was advised not to do it by people in the AD and by the contractors themselves. Obviously she didn't listen to anyone's advise. As far as I know she is married to Coach Felton. That would be a conflict of interest if she were to get the job. She also doesn't perform well under pressure. My source? Is exactly that, my source. All I've been told is that Kent and Jana would not be the best for the University. If either of them get the job, our athletic's are not where many of us would like to believe.

buckfever · Post by **buckfever** » May 27th, 2015, 8:05 pm

I've had many dealings with Jana. One was to allow the logo shop to put licensed usu logo and bull on my staffs surgical scrubs
She was great to work with and gave a great price, 3 other issues she came through. She has been easy to work with.
So. Go ahead and beat me up. She does her job. She's recognized more quickly than others for hand fed accomplishments simply because our society focus is gender equality. But she is real good in her current position. She's easily available But I'm hesitant for her to be the head gal. Yes. I'll likely apologize for this stance also. Well. That means we made a great hire

No, I'm not requiring certain gender selection or disallowing That said. I admire Barnes raising the program and vision, sports knowledge and hires etc
I don't see that w her. Barnes was open to talk to anyone first 4 yrs. after that he focused on major donors
He also promoted staff and let them get plaudits for some of his fundraising.
If it were Doggett and Stanley retained we would back slide.
They are both great assts. well one great, but not nearly dynamic enough. Of the two mentioned Jana follows through every time
See. I'm not seeking anymore who we hire. I'm now pumped up about our Bball hire.
60 % of my ideas are proven wrong
But I'm right on trusting our University President

BLUERUFiO · Post by **BLUERUFiO** » May 27th, 2015, 8:12 pm

I have had 0 contact with Jana, but, I believe those reporting their negative experiences with her. Would it be impactful if those who worried about Jana being permanently promoted emailed Stan about their concerns? I'm thinking about quoting some of the things said in this post to Stan in an email.

Post by **AggiesForever** » May 28th, 2015, 2:39 pm

As the interim AD, she is not eligible to be named the athletic director. This is typical for administrative hirings at USU. If she actually wanted to be the AD, she would have notified by Stan that she would not be eligible to be the AD and would not have accepted the interim title so she could interview for the AD position. By accepting the title of interim AD, she has taken herself out of the running for the AD job.

BLUERUFiO · Post by **BLUERUFiO** » May 28th, 2015, 2:47 pm

AggiesForever wrote:As the interim AD, she is not eligible to be named the athletic director. This is typical for administrative hirings at USU. If she actually wanted to be the AD, she would have notified by Stan that she would not be eligible to be the AD and would not have accepted the interim title so she could interview for the AD position. By accepting the title of interim AD, she has taken herself out of the running for the AD job.

This is music to my ears.

liquidforce · Post by **liquidforce** » May 28th, 2015, 3:52 pm

Patti, the head of the alumni association was an interim director then became the full time director a little later on. I hope that's the abnormal and Jana doesn't get it

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GameFAQSAggie · Post by **GameFAQSAggie** » May 28th, 2015, 3:56 pm

AggiesForever wrote:As the interim AD, she is not eligible to be named the athletic director. This is typical for administrative hirings at USU. If she actually wanted to be the AD, she would have notified by Stan that she would not be eligible to be the AD and would not have accepted the interim title so she could interview for the AD position. By accepting the title of interim AD, she has taken herself out of the running for the AD job.

I thought I saw it posted on the old board that Rance was first named interim AD, then named the permanent AD.

buckfever · Post by **buckfever** » May 28th, 2015, 5:10 pm

Well gfqs you haven't been wrong yet. Why don't u and aggies forever "DUKE" it out on the quad and settle this. I hope my friend aggies forever is correcto.

TheAKAggie · Post by **TheAKAggie** » May 28th, 2015, 6:44 pm

I have a feeling Stan Laub, Ron Jibson, and a few others will be consulted.

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AGGIEFIGHT · Post by **AGGIEFIGHT** » May 29th, 2015, 8:11 am

TheAKAggie wrote:I have a feeling Stan Laub, Ron Jibson, and a few others will be consulted.

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Is the President hiring a medium to get Stan Laubs Input?

ratofallaggies · Post by **ratofallaggies** » May 29th, 2015, 8:42 am

AggiesForever wrote:As the interim AD, she is not eligible to be named the athletic director. This is typical for administrative hirings at USU. If she actually wanted to be the AD, she would have notified by Stan that she would not be eligible to be the AD and would not have accepted the interim title so she could interview for the AD position. By accepting the title of interim AD, she has taken herself out of the running for the AD job.

100% false. Cal is promoting their Interim AD to full time AD.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-source- ... --spt.html

Post by **AGinNEIowa** » May 29th, 2015, 9:07 am

ratofallaggies wrote:
AggiesForever wrote:As the interim AD, she is not eligible to be named the athletic director. This is typical for administrative hirings at USU. If she actually wanted to be the AD, she would have notified by Stan that she would not be eligible to be the AD and would not have accepted the interim title so she could interview for the AD position. By accepting the title of interim AD, she has taken herself out of the running for the AD job.
100% false. Cal is promoting their Interim AD to full time AD.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-source- ... --spt.html

I'm sure that AggiesForever is not talking about CAL, I think he's talking about policy at USU, which is what we really care about with this discussion.

918AGG · Post by **918AGG** » May 29th, 2015, 10:23 am

AggieBlues wrote:Uhhh pardon the ignorance, but...what is this "SEZ situation"? I thought both end zones were the wrong color of blue

No really, I'm somehow unaware of the situation with the SEZ. Too much concrete? Permanent old ugly logos on permanent structures? Merlin's statue leans a bit to the west? The blue gates don't work very good? The SEZ ticket office on game day is slower than molasses?

The SEZ situation (or debacle) is in reference to the first 10? rows of seats in the SEZ that were virtually un-usable last season due to to measurements, cheap-o quality, and impossibility of getting up and out of the row to take a wizz.

This debacle is high on my list of pet-peeves. I'm not trying to b*tch and moan here, it was just an absolutely thoughtless implementation. If I did similar work at my job, people would respond negatively as well.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » May 29th, 2015, 10:58 am

AGinNEIowa wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote:
AggiesForever wrote:As the interim AD, she is not eligible to be named the athletic director. This is typical for administrative hirings at USU. If she actually wanted to be the AD, she would have notified by Stan that she would not be eligible to be the AD and would not have accepted the interim title so she could interview for the AD position. By accepting the title of interim AD, she has taken herself out of the running for the AD job.
100% false. Cal is promoting their Interim AD to full time AD.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-source- ... --spt.html
I'm sure that AggiesForever is not talking about CAL, I think he's talking about policy at USU, which is what we really care about with this discussion.

Is that policy a "suggestion" or a "rule"?

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