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My vote would be for Randy Rahe. All he has done is win at Weber State. It is hard to win for a couple of years. Really hard to win for 10 like he has. He is a great recruiter and coach.
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Re: Randy Rahe
For some reason this reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld when George decides to do the opposite of what he thinks he should do..... and finds great success.usufan5477 wrote:My vote would be for Randy Rahe. All he has done is win at Weber State. It is hard to win for a couple of years. Really hard to win for 10 like he has. He is a great recruiter and coach.
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Re: Randy Rahe
Nope. He consistently underachieves with his teams. Weber fell apart to end the season this year dropping from 2nd to 4th place in the last few games and then got destroyed by a lower see in the Big Sky tournament. He seems to recruit well but his teams don't meet expectations. Go read the Weber board. Their fans are done with him.
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Re: Randy Rahe
Given your history and credibility with coaches, even though I like Randy, I would now have to put him last on my list simply because you support him.usufan5477 wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 7:58 pmMy vote would be for Randy Rahe. All he has done is win at Weber State. It is hard to win for a couple of years. Really hard to win for 10 like he has. He is a great recruiter and coach.
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Re: Randy Rahe
ExactlyAggieHead wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 8:10 pmFor some reason this reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld when George decides to do the opposite of what he thinks he should do..... and finds great success.usufan5477 wrote:My vote would be for Randy Rahe. All he has done is win at Weber State. It is hard to win for a couple of years. Really hard to win for 10 like he has. He is a great recruiter and coach.
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Re: Randy Rahe
He would be a good consolation prize. I've defended Rahe on this board countless times. However if we are truly going to do a national search this time I believe we can find someone better.
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Re: Randy Rahe
Aggie in Hawaii wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 8:20 pmHe would be a good consolation prize. I've defended Rahe on this board countless times. However if we are truly going to do a national search this time I believe we can find someone better.
That is correct, and you said that without being a jerk.
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Re: Randy Rahe
It will not be Randy Rahe. I can guarantee that.
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Re: Randy Rahe
And you would be correct.JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 8:33 pmIt will not be Randy Rahe. I can guarantee that.
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NNNNNNNNNNNNNNJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!usufan5477 wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 7:58 pmMy vote would be for Randy Rahe. All he has done is win at Weber State. It is hard to win for a couple of years. Really hard to win for 10 like he has. He is a great recruiter and coach.
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Re: Randy Rahe
I am about as big a fan of Stew Morrill as is it possible to be and even I think we need to look beyond the Morrill coaching tree for new life and new blood. We need new energy, new excitement, new practices to draw people back to the program and just a variation on a theme ain’t gonna do that IMO .
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Re: Randy Rahe
Rahe just interviewed at UTEP. Time to cut the cord with the Stew line of coaches and start fresh with a younger coach.
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Rahe's agent had a conversation with UTEP because they wanted to see if he was interested. That is not the job that would make him leave Weber. I doubt Utah State is at this point either.
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Re: Randy Rahe
Article in the Deseret News says Rahe is makiing $391K at Weber State. Duryea was making $227K at USU. You think Rahe would take a pay cut for the pleasure of coaching at USU? The answer is no. And I don't see USU coming up with $400K for a new coach. The Aggies are going to have to catch lightning in a bottle with a young up-and-comer coach that is looking for his/her first head coaching gig. I don't see USU paying the type of money it will take to get a proven coach with other options.
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Re: Randy Rahe
Your numbers are incorrect, and Stew was making almost 800,000 per year at Utah State. The money is there for the right coachYossarian wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 10:29 pmArticle in the Deseret News says Rahe is makiing $391K at Weber State. Duryea was making $227K at USU. You think Rahe would take a pay cut for the pleasure of coaching at USU? The answer is no. And I don't see USU coming up with $400K for a new coach. The Aggies are going to have to catch lightning in a bottle with a young up-and-comer coach that is looking for his/her first head coaching gig. I don't see USU paying the type of money it will take to get a proven coach with other options.
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Re: Randy Rahe
USUBlue wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 10:42 pmYour numbers about Randy are incorrect, and Steve was making almost 800,000 at Utah State. The money is there for the right coachYossarian wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 10:29 pmArticle in the Deseret News says Rahe is makiing $391K at Weber State. Duryea was making $227K at USU. You think Rahe would take a pay cut for the pleasure of coaching at USU? The answer is no. And I don't see USU coming up with $400K for a new coach. The Aggies are going to have to catch lightning in a bottle with a young up-and-comer coach that is looking for his/her first head coaching gig. I don't see USU paying the type of money it will take to get a proven coach with other options.
You will have to take the correctness of the numbers up with Brad Rock of the Deseret News, that is where I got them.
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Re: Randy Rahe
Stew made far more than that. Duryea got a smaller contract because USU took a chance on him.Yossarian wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 10:29 pmArticle in the Deseret News says Rahe is makiing $391K at Weber State. Duryea was making $227K at USU. You think Rahe would take a pay cut for the pleasure of coaching at USU? The answer is no. And I don't see USU coming up with $400K for a new coach. The Aggies are going to have to catch lightning in a bottle with a young up-and-comer coach that is looking for his/her first head coaching gig. I don't see USU paying the type of money it will take to get a proven coach with other options.
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Re: Randy Rahe
If we can't get AT LEAST 400k for the next head coach (maybe 500k) then we might as well dump basketball. I think the reasons for giving Duryea less (and I think Rock got the numbers wrong, I swear Duryea was in the 300's, plus Collette wasn't punched in the face, if we all remember, so the article isn't exactly the most accurate) was because of 1. Stew's payout of his contract, and 2. because the AD knew he wasn't a homerun hire and were able to pay him less. Where else was he going?Yossarian wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 10:29 pmArticle in the Deseret News says Rahe is makiing $391K at Weber State. Duryea was making $227K at USU. You think Rahe would take a pay cut for the pleasure of coaching at USU? The answer is no. And I don't see USU coming up with $400K for a new coach. The Aggies are going to have to catch lightning in a bottle with a young up-and-comer coach that is looking for his/her first head coaching gig. I don't see USU paying the type of money it will take to get a proven coach with other options.
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USU will pay more than that if they need to.flying_scotsman2.0 wrote:If we can't get AT LEAST 400k for the next head coach (maybe 500k) then we might as well dump basketball. I think the reasons for giving Duryea less (and I think Rock got the numbers wrong, I swear Duryea was in the 300's, plus Collette wasn't punched in the face, if we all remember, so the article isn't exactly the most accurate) was because of 1. Stew's payout of his contract, and 2. because the AD knew he wasn't a homerun hire and were able to pay him less. Where else was he going?Yossarian wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 10:29 pmArticle in the Deseret News says Rahe is makiing $391K at Weber State. Duryea was making $227K at USU. You think Rahe would take a pay cut for the pleasure of coaching at USU? The answer is no. And I don't see USU coming up with $400K for a new coach. The Aggies are going to have to catch lightning in a bottle with a young up-and-comer coach that is looking for his/her first head coaching gig. I don't see USU paying the type of money it will take to get a proven coach with other options.
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Re: Randy Rahe
the picture of the contract posted on here before said that the base coaching salary was $279k (item 2 below) and that he got $100k for contractually obligated radio bits, marketing, coaches shows, etc (item 7). That puts him at $379k. My guess is that Rahe's contact included that type of stipulation as well, which would put their salary #s a lot closer than that article would have you believe...
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Re: Randy Rahe
Let me guess. . .your second choice would be Don Verlin? We know now that you’re not Tim (had me fooled). Are you Stew?usufan5477 wrote:My vote would be for Randy Rahe. All he has done is win at Weber State. It is hard to win for a couple of years. Really hard to win for 10 like he has. He is a great recruiter and coach.
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Re: Randy Rahe
Nice research. So now I know I can just ignore future articles written by Brad Rock. Thx.ShowMeAggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 11:04 pmthe picture of the contract posted on here before said that the base coaching salary was $279k (item 2 below) and that he got $100k for contractually obligated radio bits, marketing, coaches shows, etc (item 7). That puts him at $379k. My guess is that Rahe's contact included that type of stipulation as well, which would put their salary #s a lot closer than that article would have you believe...
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I’m sorry to see Duryea go, but I think it would be a huge mistake to bring in Rahe. There’s a lot of coaches stepping up to the plate like the coach at Montana, northern Colorado, Portland state and Eastern Washington. Go out and get a coach who can recruit and lead..... not a Stew 2.0. Weber has its own problems.usufan5477 wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 7:58 pmMy vote would be for Randy Rahe. All he has done is win at Weber State. It is hard to win for a couple of years. Really hard to win for 10 like he has. He is a great recruiter and coach.
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I think you're way too quick to dismiss what Rahe has done. Year, after year the guy has win and recruited some very skilled players. He is not a flash in the pan sexy hire like Barret Peery but every year you can count on Weber being in the mix at the end of the year.Hoopsnut wrote:I’m sorry to see Duryea go, but I think it would be a huge mistake to bring in Rahe. There’s a lot of coaches stepping up to the plate like the coach at Montana, northern Colorado, Portland state and Eastern Washington. Go out and get a coach who can recruit and lead..... not a Stew 2.0. Weber has its own problems.usufan5477 wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 7:58 pmMy vote would be for Randy Rahe. All he has done is win at Weber State. It is hard to win for a couple of years. Really hard to win for 10 like he has. He is a great recruiter and coach.
They run a modern offense, but threes, and work the past. Defensively they play well.
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Re: Randy Rahe
Wow. Who do you guys think we're going to hire? Mike Krzyzewski? I would be thrilled if Randy Rahe were our new coach, but I can't see any reason why he would leave Weber for USU. I really hope that Hartwell has figured out a way to pay market rate for the new coach, because if he hasn't, we're going to pining for the Duryea days soon. (And I say this as one who felt like I was punched in the gut when Duryea was hired and steadily lost interest in USU basketball as he coached.)
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This hire needs to generate excitement. Rahe has failed more often than succeeded when stakes are high. I would have preferred keeping TD for one more year than spend the next 3 or 4 years with Rahe. I want more than just regular season results. Rahe would be the safe hire, IMO we probably need to take some risk with our next hire.
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Re: Randy Rahe
You need to charge your phone.ShowMeAggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 11:04 pmthe picture of the contract posted on here before said that the base coaching salary was $279k (item 2 below) and that he got $100k for contractually obligated radio bits, marketing, coaches shows, etc (item 7). That puts him at $379k. My guess is that Rahe's contact included that type of stipulation as well, which would put their salary #s a lot closer than that article would have you believe...
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Re: Randy Rahe
Rahe has had to work for the autobid every year. All or nothing. Regular season results have a lot more clout when you're in a multi-bid conference. Losing in the MWC tourney quarterfinals you could still probably go to the Dance if Gonzaga were in the conference.nswaggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 11:41 pmThis hire needs to generate excitement. Rahe has failed more often than succeeded when stakes are high. I would have preferred keeping TD for one more year than spend the next 3 or 4 years with Rahe. I want more than just regular season results. Rahe would be the safe hire, IMO we probably need to take some risk with our next hire.
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Re: Randy Rahe
I hate to constantly defend Rahe because he isn't my first choice, but Rahe is a superior coach to Duryea. He immediately improved Weber State after he was hired and has had sustained success for over a decade now. His conference record at Weber is better than Stew's at USU. I have no doubt if we hired Rahe, our program would be improved.Ahbye wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 12:22 amRahe has had to work for the autobid every year. All or nothing. Regular season results have a lot more clout when you're in a multi-bid conference. Losing in the MWC tourney quarterfinals you could still probably go to the Dance if Gonzaga were in the conference.nswaggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 11:41 pmThis hire needs to generate excitement. Rahe has failed more often than succeeded when stakes are high. I would have preferred keeping TD for one more year than spend the next 3 or 4 years with Rahe. I want more than just regular season results. Rahe would be the safe hire, IMO we probably need to take some risk with our next hire.
Again he isn't my first choice, but I would not cry in a corner if we have to settle for Rahe.
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Me neitherAggie in Hawaii wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 1:14 amI hate to constantly defend Rahe because he isn't my first choice, but Rahe is a superior coach to Duryea. He immediately improved Weber State after he was hired and has had sustained success for over a decade now. His conference record at Weber is better than Stew's at USU. I have no doubt if we hired Rahe, our program would be improved.Ahbye wrote: ↑March 12th, 2018, 12:22 amRahe has had to work for the autobid every year. All or nothing. Regular season results have a lot more clout when you're in a multi-bid conference. Losing in the MWC tourney quarterfinals you could still probably go to the Dance if Gonzaga were in the conference.nswaggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 11:41 pmThis hire needs to generate excitement. Rahe has failed more often than succeeded when stakes are high. I would have preferred keeping TD for one more year than spend the next 3 or 4 years with Rahe. I want more than just regular season results. Rahe would be the safe hire, IMO we probably need to take some risk with our next hire.
Again he isn't my first choice, but I would not cry in a corner if we have to settle for Rahe.
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Gotta hand it to you Stanford, you’re consistent in your messaging at least. I hope we can pay the new guy close to what Stew was making.StanfordAggie wrote: ↑March 11th, 2018, 11:32 pmWow. Who do you guys think we're going to hire? Mike Krzyzewski? I would be thrilled if Randy Rahe were our new coach, but I can't see any reason why he would leave Weber for USU. I really hope that Hartwell has figured out a way to pay market rate for the new coach, because if he hasn't, we're going to pining for the Duryea days soon. (And I say this as one who felt like I was punched in the gut when Duryea was hired and steadily lost interest in USU basketball as he coached.)