Here comes Gary

AndroidAggie · Post by **AndroidAggie** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:16 am

ChicAggie wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:08 am
I’m glad we all know more than Hartwell and his advisors about what needs to be done here. He did a great job getting Smith (who was never on this board’s radar), and I am confident he’ll do a great job replacing Wells & Co. as well.

you should see the way i know what plays to call the day after

TheAKAggie · Post by **TheAKAggie** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:18 am

Aggieiester wrote:
ratofallaggies wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 10:55 am
I think they may be trying to put the rabbit back in the hat... that’s my take off what I’m hearing from both sides. We’ll see very soon!
Sounds like a fluid situation for sure. I've heard talk of Rolovitch from Hawaii, but there's no way of knowing if he is a serious candidate or if this is a way of Rolo getting something out of Hawaii that he wants.

He said Nationwide, not International.

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BLUERUFiO · Post by **BLUERUFiO** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:26 am

lol, AK.

I love the suspense and then the added suspense of not knowing which posters have good intel. I’m just glad anyone is willing to share any intel, so, thanks everyone.

Smokin Joe · Post by **Smokin Joe** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:27 am

With the recruiting class we have coming in and the guys we have on roster now and Gary as our HC, we should have a great year next year and beyond.

Machismo · Post by **Machismo** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:31 am

How about a 3 year 3Mill deal. See how it goes the 1st couple seasons and extend if needed.

Aggieforlife · Post by **Aggieforlife** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:33 am

People close to the situation are pretty tight lipped, they won’t confirm nor deny the GA rumors.

hipsterdoofus21 · Post by **hipsterdoofus21** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:36 am

Aggieforlife wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:33 am
People close to the situation are pretty tight lipped, they won’t confirm nor deny the GA rumors.

Seems easy to deny if there wasn’t truth to it....

Usu0505 · Post by **Usu0505** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:38 am

I think we could have waited 10+ days to hire until we started realizing how wide spread the fallout of coaching staff is. The program seems to be barely holding on and we need someone ASAP.

Blitz79 · Post by **Blitz79** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:39 am

My source has heard conflicting info. First it was Gary, then Gary was of the list and a national search was started. Now Gary is back on the list but search goes on. Source says expect to hear something later this week.

Intermeddler · Post by **Intermeddler** » December 2nd, 2018, 11:57 am

ChicAggie wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:08 am
I’m glad we all know more than Hartwell and his advisors about what needs to be done here. He did a great job getting Smith (who was never on this board’s radar), and I am confident he’ll do a great job replacing Wells & Co. as well.

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Agreed. Smith was a great hire and he hired well at Troy.

I have confidence in him.

USUBlue · Post by **USUBlue** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:10 pm

Usu0505 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:38 am
I think we could have waited 10+ days to hire until we started realizing how wide spread the fallout of coaching staff is. The program seems to be barely holding on and we need someone ASAP.

I don’t agree. 10 to 14 days it’s reasonable and necessary to make the right higher. Let Wells take whoever he wants. If someone wants to follow Wells, they will. The new coach will have his own guys that he wants to bring in, and he may keep one or two of the current coaching staff. But that’s for him to decide. Just like Smith brought in his own guys. He didn’t keep any of Duryea’s guys and it’s worked out great.

The recruits that want to play at Utah State will embrace the new staff. The recruits that want to go with Wells will find a reason to do that. Relax! The process is necessary to get the right guy.

TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:20 pm

I'd rather have the right Coach than hurry to save a couple recruits. The Coach is more important than any player in College Football.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:22 pm

TrueAG wrote:I'd rather have the right Coach than hurry to save a couple recruits. The Coach is more important than any player in College Football.

This keeps getting repeated over and over and over. Why can’t we have both? The right coach and have it happen first of the week?

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TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:25 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 12:22 pm

TrueAG wrote:I'd rather have the right Coach than hurry to save a couple recruits. The Coach is more important than any player in College Football.
This keeps getting repeated over and over and over. Why can’t we have both? The right coach and have it happen first of the week?

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I don't know and either do you. Maybe GA needs a deeper background check. Maybe GA is being difficult or wishy washy (it's happened before). The hate on Hartwell for people knowing nothing about what's going on is stupid.

USUBlue · Post by **USUBlue** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:28 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 12:22 pm

TrueAG wrote:I'd rather have the right Coach than hurry to save a couple recruits. The Coach is more important than any player in College Football.
This keeps getting repeated over and over and over. Why can’t we have both? The right coach and have it happen first of the week?

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Because who is the right coach needs adequate due diligence. It took time to determine Smith was the right coach. Relax there’s not a single player I’m worried about losing at this point; he can be replaced. But get the wrong coach, and we have is a 3 to 4 year disaster.

AggieBlues · Post by **AggieBlues** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:33 pm

USUBlue wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 12:28 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 12:22 pm

TrueAG wrote:I'd rather have the right Coach than hurry to save a couple recruits. The Coach is more important than any player in College Football.
This keeps getting repeated over and over and over. Why can’t we have both? The right coach and have it happen first of the week?

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Because who is the right coach needs adequate due diligence. It took time to determine Smith was the right coach. Relax there’s not a single player I’m worried about losing at this point; he can be replaced. But get the wrong coach, and we have is a 3 to 4 year disaster.

I hate to agree with USUBlue, yet here we are. If it's Gary, great. If not, trust the process. No rushing, less room for regret.

newhouse9 · Post by **newhouse9** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:36 pm

USUBlue wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 12:28 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 12:22 pm

TrueAG wrote:I'd rather have the right Coach than hurry to save a couple recruits. The Coach is more important than any player in College Football.
This keeps getting repeated over and over and over. Why can’t we have both? The right coach and have it happen first of the week?

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Because who is the right coach needs adequate due diligence. It took time to determine Smith was the right coach. Relax there’s not a single player I’m worried about losing at this point; he can be replaced. But get the wrong coach, and we have is a 3 to 4 year disaster.

I agree completely.

jackmormon · Post by **jackmormon** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:37 pm

What is a dead woman or a live boy, Alex...

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:39 pm

I’m not advocating for the wrong coach. I want the right coach as bad as anyone but it’s possible to have both. Hartwell should have been working on this for a couple weeks now. He shouldn’t be in New York.

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TrueAG · Post by **TrueAG** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:42 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 12:39 pm
I’m not advocating for the wrong coach. I want the right coach as bad as anyone but it’s possible to have both. Hartwell should have been working on this for a couple weeks now. He shouldn’t be in New York.

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Do you know he hasn't been? Let it play out and then you'll have plenty of time to complain if he messes it up. He may have had a quick plan and something unforeseen come up.

oleblu111 · Post by **oleblu111** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:46 pm

How do you know it is possible to have both already? He should be in New York, you do not know what is going on in New York as far as what he is doing in regard to checking out background on possible hires.

I think a lot of people on this think G.A. is the only decent choice, so any delay is wrong, that is short sighted at best

mike1126 · Post by **mike1126** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:47 pm

mountain west wire is reporting that its gary Anderson

GeorgiaAggie · Post by **GeorgiaAggie** » December 2nd, 2018, 12:59 pm

mike1126 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 12:47 pm
mountain west wire is reporting that its gary Anderson

They’re referencing the FootballScoop article so we’re still in the same boat.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » December 2nd, 2018, 1:08 pm

oleblu111 wrote:How do you know it is possible to have both already? He should be in New York, you do not know what is going on in New York as far as what he is doing in regard to checking out background on possible hires.

I think a lot of people on this think G.A. is the only decent choice, so any delay is wrong, that is short sighted at best

Gary isn’t the only decent choice. Never said he was.

But what are your thoughts on our budget, attendance and season tickets? And maybe just Aggie fans in general?

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Aggieiester · Post by **Aggieiester** » December 2nd, 2018, 1:15 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 1:08 pm

oleblu111 wrote:How do you know it is possible to have both already? He should be in New York, you do not know what is going on in New York as far as what he is doing in regard to checking out background on possible hires.

I think a lot of people on this think G.A. is the only decent choice, so any delay is wrong, that is short sighted at best
Gary isn’t the only decent choice. Never said he was.

But what are your thoughts on our budget, attendance and season tickets? And maybe just Aggie fans in general?

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Somebody needs a nap

frogman812 · Post by **frogman812** » December 2nd, 2018, 3:03 pm

Hartwell is in New York and GA is in Utah, so there is your national search. #Make it happen

AGNUMPI · Post by **AGNUMPI** » December 2nd, 2018, 3:05 pm

bluegrouse wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 8:28 am

JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 8:17 am
If football scoop is reporting this it is a positive sign for those of us that want him back. His lights are on in Logan .he has also been seen here recently
What’s he having for breakfast and is he wearing blue?

And have you verified that he still has the tattoo?

AGNUMPI · Post by **AGNUMPI** » December 2nd, 2018, 3:12 pm

Blitz79 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:39 am
My source has heard conflicting info. First it was Gary, then Gary was of the list and a national search was started. Now Gary is back on the list but search goes on. Source says expect to hear something later this week.

Well in the article it says the search firm will change directions if word is leaked, so...

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » December 2nd, 2018, 3:16 pm

AGNUMPI wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 3:12 pm

Blitz79 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:39 am
My source has heard conflicting info. First it was Gary, then Gary was of the list and a national search was started. Now Gary is back on the list but search goes on. Source says expect to hear something later this week.
Well in the article it says the search firm will change directions if word is leaked, so...

I think search firms are stupid. Isn't that what we pay John Hartwell to do?

USUBlue · Post by **USUBlue** » December 2nd, 2018, 3:24 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 3:16 pm

AGNUMPI wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 3:12 pm

Blitz79 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:39 am
My source has heard conflicting info. First it was Gary, then Gary was of the list and a national search was started. Now Gary is back on the list but search goes on. Source says expect to hear something later this week.
Well in the article it says the search firm will change directions if word is leaked, so...
I think search firms are stupid. Isn't that what we pay John Hartwell to do?

I have my concerns about them as well, but there are several benefits and given the players may actually be essential:
1. Confidentiality. Most have jobs already and don't want their employer to know until at least an initial match has been made.
2. Head Hunter. Kind of a clearinghouse for coaches and schools that can be regularly updated without contacting hundreds of different ADs and coaches.
3. Initial Negotiations. How much a school may pay and how much a coach is looking for, including other benefits, can be discussed casually without getting together.
4. Deniability. May be the most important. Both sides can say that they never spoke or met.

Post by **aggies22** » December 2nd, 2018, 3:26 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 3:16 pm

AGNUMPI wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 3:12 pm

Blitz79 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:39 am
My source has heard conflicting info. First it was Gary, then Gary was of the list and a national search was started. Now Gary is back on the list but search goes on. Source says expect to hear something later this week.
Well in the article it says the search firm will change directions if word is leaked, so...
I think search firms are stupid. Isn't that what we pay John Hartwell to do?

That's what I thought they did. So does Hartwell really get credit for the Craig Smith hire or this Sugiyama guy?

USUBlue · Post by **USUBlue** » December 2nd, 2018, 3:28 pm

Aggieforlife wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:33 am
People close to the situation are pretty tight lipped, they won’t confirm nor deny the GA rumors.

As I've mentioned, the only people who really know what is going on is Hartwell, the candidate, and the search company. Even the Pres. will be a step removed until final interviews and confirmation. Oh and AK also knows, but he knows how to keep a secret.

ineptimusprime · Post by **ineptimusprime** » December 2nd, 2018, 3:35 pm

As long as we end up with Vic Koenning, I’m happy to wait as long as is needed.

oleblu111 · Post by **oleblu111** » December 2nd, 2018, 3:38 pm

USUBlue wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 3:28 pm

Aggieforlife wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:33 am
People close to the situation are pretty tight lipped, they won’t confirm nor deny the GA rumors.
As I've mentioned, the only people who really know what is going on is Hartwell, the candidate, and the search company. Even the Pres. will be a step removed until final interviews and confirmation. Oh and AK also knows, but he knows how to keep a secret.

My goodness Blue you have been on track thru this whole process, if you want to do do this right you need a search firm to check out the over 100 people that will apply, also with getting set up for a bowl game in 14 days will fill a A.D's agenda.

If you want to do it fast, but need to be thorough a search company is needed.

2004AG · Post by **2004AG** » December 2nd, 2018, 3:40 pm

USUBlue wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 3:24 pm

2004AG wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 3:16 pm

AGNUMPI wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 3:12 pm

Blitz79 wrote: ↑
December 2nd, 2018, 11:39 am
My source has heard conflicting info. First it was Gary, then Gary was of the list and a national search was started. Now Gary is back on the list but search goes on. Source says expect to hear something later this week.
Well in the article it says the search firm will change directions if word is leaked, so...
I think search firms are stupid. Isn't that what we pay John Hartwell to do?
I have my concerns about them as well, but there are several benefits and given the players may actually be essential:
1. Confidentiality. Most have jobs already and don't want their employer to know until at least an initial match has been made.
2. Head Hunter. Kind of a clearinghouse for coaches and schools that can be regularly updated without contacting hundreds of different ADs and coaches.
3. Initial Negotiations. How much a school may pay and how much a coach is looking for, including other benefits, can be discussed casually without getting together.
4. Deniability. May be the most important. Both sides can say that they never spoke or met.

I guess I still have that bad taste in my mouth after we paid the search firm to hire Tim Duryea.

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