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What are our positions of Need now?
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What are our positions of Need now?
We still need a JC WR, JC S, JC CB, a RB, big fr WR. What else do you guys think. And how many scholarships do we still have available? Any chance Gary can flip any of the Bingham guys before Feb?
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
I am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
What we really need at WR is SPEED and a guy that can start immediately -- probably a JC or Grad TransferYoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:12 pmI am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
Is Savon not fast like Kerwynn was not fast?USUBlue wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:15 pmWhat we really need at WR is SPEED and a guy that can start immediately -- probably a JC or Grad TransferYoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:12 pmI am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
Don't create red herrings -- our returning WRs are not fast with the exception of Savon and that's not enough. We need more speed and more size. Simple enough without making up false comparisons.YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:17 pmIs Savon not fast like Kerwynn was not fast?USUBlue wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:15 pmWhat we really need at WR is SPEED and a guy that can start immediately -- probably a JC or Grad TransferYoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:12 pmI am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
Next year's offense is going to be very different and speed will become more of a premium. I don't know if Patrick is fast, but the others aren't going to run past people very often. Gary will bring in some speed JC WRs just like he did last time.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
Wait a minute... Jordan Nathan isn't fast? Nathan + Savon = fast. Plus, we have a little WR that is pretty darn speedy too (forgot his name).
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
So you think its ok to have our starting receivers go 5'8", 5'8" and 5'11", with the 5'11" guy not having very good hands? Its really gonna limit our offense if those are the tallest guys we have.YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:12 pmI am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
Those heights are fine if you also have a couple guys over 6'1"-6'2".
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
As long as we don't lose who we currently have committed that has NOT signed LOIs yet. We have 8 spots for 2019 left.JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:06 pmWe still need a JC WR, JC S, JC CB, a RB, big fr WR. What else do you guys think. And how many scholarships do we still have available? Any chance Gary can flip any of the Bingham guys before Feb?
We need 3 WRs, a TE, an OL, a LB, a JC or 3* CB and a JC S.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
I would say Scarver and Thompkins are the speed at WR, we still need size at this position or we are going to have trouble moving the chains and scoring in the red zone consistently.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
Couldn’t the possession guy be our TE? Dax was so underutilized this year.YoungBloodAggie wrote:I am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
I know it doesn’t help the “size” argument, but Bright could also be moved back to the slot at times or full time. Especially if one of the young backs can develop as a change of pace.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
I'd take Sharp over any other WR to suit up for USU since Kevin Curtis. A few other great ones along the way, but Sharp was on another level in my opinion.YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:12 pmI am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
Would certainly help to have a bigger possession threat next year, but I agree that the WR unit has enough talent and speed to be plenty threatening!
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
Our WR and DB group are the weakest links on next year's team -- they have to be shored up with starter quality JCs and Grad Transfers.2004AG wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:50 pmSo you think its ok to have our starting receivers go 5'8", 5'8" and 5'11", with the 5'11" guy not having very good hands? Its really gonna limit our offense if those are the tallest guys we have.YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:12 pmI am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
Those heights are fine if you also have a couple guys over 6'1"-6'2".
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
This. Though I think DB is in better shape than WR, especially when we get all the walking wounded back. Outside of Nathan and Scarver, I'm not very confident in our core of receivers.USUBlue wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:10 pmOur WR and DB group are the weakest links on next year's team -- they have to be shored up with starter quality JCs and Grad Transfers.2004AG wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:50 pmSo you think its ok to have our starting receivers go 5'8", 5'8" and 5'11", with the 5'11" guy not having very good hands? Its really gonna limit our offense if those are the tallest guys we have.YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:12 pmI am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
Those heights are fine if you also have a couple guys over 6'1"-6'2".
With Love and a running game returning, this should be a position that should be relatively easy to recruit to.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
One would think it would be easy to recruit to right? WRONG! WR was the most IGNORED of the positions by the old coaching staff for the last 2 or 3 years. Let's just say the old staff did NOT take advantage of all their opportunitites to bring in good players.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:15 pmThis. Though I think DB is in better shape than WR, especially when we get all the walking wounded back. Outside of Nathan and Scarver, I'm not very confident in our core of receivers.USUBlue wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:10 pmOur WR and DB group are the weakest links on next year's team -- they have to be shored up with starter quality JCs and Grad Transfers.2004AG wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:50 pmSo you think its ok to have our starting receivers go 5'8", 5'8" and 5'11", with the 5'11" guy not having very good hands? Its really gonna limit our offense if those are the tallest guys we have.YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:12 pmI am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
Those heights are fine if you also have a couple guys over 6'1"-6'2".
With Love and a running game returning, this should be a position that should be relatively easy to recruit to.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
Don't be so sure about the running game either. One thing that is certain, scholarship players will leave early. The average over the past 30+ years is 11-12 scholarship players leaving early per year -- and with coaching turnover even more. So far I can think of 3 scholarship players that are probably leaving. Here's some numbers to think about:ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:15 pmThis. Though I think DB is in better shape than WR, especially when we get all the walking wounded back. Outside of Nathan and Scarver, I'm not very confident in our core of receivers.USUBlue wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:10 pmOur WR and DB group are the weakest links on next year's team -- they have to be shored up with starter quality JCs and Grad Transfers.2004AG wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:50 pmSo you think its ok to have our starting receivers go 5'8", 5'8" and 5'11", with the 5'11" guy not having very good hands? Its really gonna limit our offense if those are the tallest guys we have.YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:12 pmI am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
Those heights are fine if you also have a couple guys over 6'1"-6'2".
With Love and a running game returning, this should be a position that should be relatively easy to recruit to.
1. # of Seniors on next year's team -- About 12; an all-time low unless we bring in several grad transfers.
2. # of Current Scholarship Used -- About 56; that's before more attrition and new signees, but includes push forwards (about 4). Bottom line -- it will be difficult to get to 80 scholarship players even if several walkons get scholarships this year.
In short, this is a huge transition year. Of the 40 years I've been tracking comings and goings of players and coaches, this is one of the top 3 ever.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
Anyone hearing that our stud RB may want to dip his toe into the NFL water?
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
He would be wise to get the advice of those that know what they are talking about, and leave if he is likely to be drafted before Round 4.JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:34 pmAnyone hearing that our stud RB may want to dip his toe into the NFL water?
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Dax is also a likely late round pick and he left. At least 5th rd from what I heard.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
Dax is graduated from school and also age is not on his side either. Since he is graduated no point in sticking around really.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
With the exception of Thompson last yr, I don't think they did a good job of recruiting RB's eitheraggies22 wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:19 pmOne would think it would be easy to recruit to right? WRONG! WR was the most IGNORED of the positions by the old coaching staff for the last 2 or 3 years. Let's just say the old staff did NOT take advantage of all their opportunitites to bring in good players.ineptimusprime wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:15 pmThis. Though I think DB is in better shape than WR, especially when we get all the walking wounded back. Outside of Nathan and Scarver, I'm not very confident in our core of receivers.USUBlue wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:10 pmOur WR and DB group are the weakest links on next year's team -- they have to be shored up with starter quality JCs and Grad Transfers.2004AG wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:50 pmSo you think its ok to have our starting receivers go 5'8", 5'8" and 5'11", with the 5'11" guy not having very good hands? Its really gonna limit our offense if those are the tallest guys we have.YoungBloodAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 2:12 pmI am not convinced we need a big WR. Our best WR in the past five years was 5'11'' (Hunter Sharp). You have deep threats, you have possession guys, and you have change-of-pace guys. Scarver can absolutely be a deep threat with his speed, Nathan can be a change-of-pace guy that moves around, gives you different looks, etc.
I think what we really need is a possession guy when you just need three to four yards.
Those heights are fine if you also have a couple guys over 6'1"-6'2".
With Love and a running game returning, this should be a position that should be relatively easy to recruit to.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but yes.JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:34 pmAnyone hearing that our stud RB may want to dip his toe into the NFL water?
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
What's the most foul word I can use on here without getting kicked off by the mods?aggies22 wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:22 pmI hate to be the bearer of bad news but yes.JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:34 pmAnyone hearing that our stud RB may want to dip his toe into the NFL water?
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Ok that's what I had heard as well, but just didn't believe it.aggies22 wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:22 pmI hate to be the bearer of bad news but yes.JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:34 pmAnyone hearing that our stud RB may want to dip his toe into the NFL water?
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
"What the fetch!"CanuckAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:30 pmWhat's the most foul word I can use on here without getting kicked off by the mods?aggies22 wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:22 pmI hate to be the bearer of bad news but yes.JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:34 pmAnyone hearing that our stud RB may want to dip his toe into the NFL water?
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
That would be sad if follows through with it. I think he would be better served to showcase his abilities for one more year, especially with whom he would be surrounded by next year. I could easily see him going undrafted, and then what?....aggies22 wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:22 pmI hate to be the bearer of bad news but yes.JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:34 pmAnyone hearing that our stud RB may want to dip his toe into the NFL water?
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It's all about creative editing my friend!CanuckAggie wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:30 pmWhat's the most foul word I can use on here without getting kicked off by the mods?aggies22 wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:22 pmI hate to be the bearer of bad news but yes.JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 3:34 pmAnyone hearing that our stud RB may want to dip his toe into the NFL water?
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You can swear all you want...there are account specific filters and individual user settings in place for those that don't want to see or read foul language.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
The problem that he has is that he is prone to have ankle injuries. It's why we got him in the 1st place. Dave had him doing specific exercises for this issue.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
We only have 8 spots and too many positions of need. We'll be rolling with GB, Morian Walker, Tre Miller and Dadrion Taylor next year, IF I stress IF, the D Train pulls out of the station.
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Re: What are our positions of Need now?
Little fun fact....Jordan and Savon race ALL THEEE TIME.....u’ll never guess who hasn’t won one of those foot races yet.....
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I would hope Savon would beat Jordan Love in a foot race.taniataylor wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:37 pmLittle fun fact....Jordan and Savon race ALL THEEE TIME.....u’ll never guess who hasn’t won one of those foot races yet.....
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I was under the impression that he was signing during the early signing period.JFW_AGGIES wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:39 pmWhen is Taylor going to sign, is he waiting until Feb?
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JDeuce, probably, but never in the last few years has #16 lost to #81....they talk smack about it all the timeaggies22 wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:39 pmI would hope Savon would beat Jordan Love in a foot race.taniataylor wrote: ↑December 19th, 2018, 4:37 pmLittle fun fact....Jordan and Savon race ALL THEEE TIME.....u’ll never guess who hasn’t won one of those foot races yet.....
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