Aggiesbleedblue wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 3:49 pm

If it is Riley, I hope he can bring these 2 transfers with him.

Riley would have to leave the USA to make it here.

South alabama motto is burn the boats

slcagg wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:16 pm

South alabama motto is burn the boats

SIs Riley official?

ineptimusprime wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:21 pm

Tweet unavailable?

Aggie84025 wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:20 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:16 pm

South alabama motto is burn the boats

SIs Riley official?

I wouldn’t say official at all. Tyler I don’t believe is official at all. But it seems there is some noise there. Think offer may have gone out or at least being worked on. Having a second name in case something stalls or doesn’t work out.

Riley seems to tick so many boxes.
Also blows up the notion that Hartwell is some kind of good old boy.
A regionalist year but not a racist.
Would really love this hire.

Someone want to tell me why Richie Riley is an exciting possibility?
He's coached 5 years of D1 ball.
He's got a record under .600
He's never taken a D1 team to any postseason tournament.

Seems that USU has a program that could do a lot better than that kind of resume. What am I missing?

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:51 pm

Someone want to tell me why Richie Riley is an exciting possibility?
He's coached 5 years of D1 ball.
He's barely over .500
He's never taken a D1 team to any postseason tournament.

Seems that USU has a program that could do a lot better than that kind of resume. What am I missing?

Check south alabama basketball results history and compare his success. Also expected to be very good next year. Guy has also proved he is a very good recruiter. As far as x and o’s I’ll leave it up to hartwell to determine that.

slcagg wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:51 pm

Someone want to tell me why Richie Riley is an exciting possibility?
He's coached 5 years of D1 ball.
He's barely over .500
He's never taken a D1 team to any postseason tournament.

Seems that USU has a program that could do a lot better than that kind of resume. What am I missing?

Check south alabama basketball results history and compare his success. Also expected to be very good next year. Guy has also proved he is a very good recruiter. As far as x and o’s I’ll leave it up to hartwell to determine that.

Are you concerned that he wins the recruiting conversation, but loses on the floor?

I am. I'd rather have a coach that does the opposite (or both if I'm going to be greedy!).

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:51 pm

Someone want to tell me why Richie Riley is an exciting possibility?
He's coached 5 years of D1 ball.
He's barely over .500
He's never taken a D1 team to any postseason tournament.

Seems that USU has a program that could do a lot better than that kind of resume. What am I missing?

Check south alabama basketball results history and compare his success. Also expected to be very good next year. Guy has also proved he is a very good recruiter. As far as x and o’s I’ll leave it up to hartwell to determine that.

Are you concerned that he wins the recruiting conversation, but loses on the floor?

I am. I'd rather have a coach that does the opposite (or both if I'm going to be greedy!).

Yes I can understand. But he is 54-39 (if I did my math in my head right) at south alabama. Including 20-11 and 17-11 in the last 2 years. In my view that is pretty darn good for south alabama.

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:51 pm

Someone want to tell me why Richie Riley is an exciting possibility?
He's coached 5 years of D1 ball.
He's barely over .500
He's never taken a D1 team to any postseason tournament.

Seems that USU has a program that could do a lot better than that kind of resume. What am I missing?

Check south alabama basketball results history and compare his success. Also expected to be very good next year. Guy has also proved he is a very good recruiter. As far as x and o’s I’ll leave it up to hartwell to determine that.

Are you concerned that he wins the recruiting conversation, but loses on the floor?

I am. I'd rather have a coach that does the opposite (or both if I'm going to be greedy!).

I am kind of in the same boat brown jeans. If he is the guy i don't think it is a bad hire, but i am in the wait and see crowd. he seems to be hitting the transfer portal really well which is going to be a huge part of college basketball. You for sure have to hit the transfer portal, but need to also recruit 4 year players to keep stability. i have no clue how he is as an in game type coach. It does seem like he can recruit really well which we definitely need at USU. By all reports he is an up and coming coach which he also seems to really relate well to this generation of players.

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:51 pm

Someone want to tell me why Richie Riley is an exciting possibility?
He's coached 5 years of D1 ball.
He's got a record under .600
He's never taken a D1 team to any postseason tournament.

Seems that USU has a program that could do a lot better than that kind of resume. What am I missing?

1. He took over South Alabama & Nicholls state teams that were very bad and turned them around. Nicholls state he turned around incredibly quick & they were one of the worst teams in D1.

2. He's already established himself as a great recruiter and is getting a lot of hype with his ability to recruit. He has a ton of energy too, similar to Smith.

3. He's a very young coach who's getting head coaching jobs young. He's still learning and progressing in the position.

4. One of the wisest posters on this board once said this:

brownjeans wrote: ↑

March 31st, 2021, 8:13 pm

Notatrueaggie wrote: ↑

March 31st, 2021, 7:52 pm

Does anyone think that we’d have better luck coaching if we had a more diverse coaching staff or even a black head coach? I think it would bring recruiting way up for usu

The coach has to be good, not just black. But there are a lot of good black coaches out there. All things equal, I would love to see a good black coach at USU.
People tend to subconsciously hire people like themselves. It takes a diverse hiring team to question whether we are drawn to or away from a candidate due to our natural biases. I don't know that we are doing that.

slcagg wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:03 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:57 pm

slcagg wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:54 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:51 pm

Someone want to tell me why Richie Riley is an exciting possibility?
He's coached 5 years of D1 ball.
He's barely over .500
He's never taken a D1 team to any postseason tournament.

Seems that USU has a program that could do a lot better than that kind of resume. What am I missing?

Check south alabama basketball results history and compare his success. Also expected to be very good next year. Guy has also proved he is a very good recruiter. As far as x and o’s I’ll leave it up to hartwell to determine that.

Are you concerned that he wins the recruiting conversation, but loses on the floor?

I am. I'd rather have a coach that does the opposite (or both if I'm going to be greedy!).

Yes I can understand. But he is 54-39 (if I did my math in my head right) at south alabama. Including 20-11 and 17-11 in the last 2 years. In my view that is pretty darn good for south alabama.

it looks like the previous 5 years at South Alabama prior to Riley they had losing records.

How many NCAA tournaments did Smith make it to with South Dakota before we hired him? Riley should have more to work with at Utah State than he did with Nichols st. Or South Alabama. Not a name we were hearing but could be a diamond in the rough.

Bluened wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:07 pm

How many NCAA tournaments did Smith make it to with South Dakota before we hired him? Riley should have more to work with at Utah State than he did with Nichols st. Or South Alabama. Not a name we were hearing but could be a diamond in the rough.

Smith made it to 0 and won 0 Summit league championships at South Dakota.

If it is Riley, it looks like he enjoys 2-3 year stints wherever he goes.

Roy McAvoy wrote:

Bluened wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:07 pm

How many NCAA tournaments did Smith make it to with South Dakota before we hired him? Riley should have more to work with at Utah State than he did with Nichols st. Or South Alabama. Not a name we were hearing but could be a diamond in the rough.

Smith made it to 0 and won 0 Summit league championships at South Dakota.

Roy McAvoy wrote:

Bluened wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:07 pm

How many NCAA tournaments did Smith make it to with South Dakota before we hired him? Riley should have more to work with at Utah State than he did with Nichols st. Or South Alabama. Not a name we were hearing but could be a diamond in the rough.

Smith made it to 0 and won 0 Summit league championships at South Dakota.

Exactly. I think Riley could come in and have the same type of success...if hired. Then again, if he does he may be gone in 3 years as well.


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I mean, look at this. This is amazing:

https://247sports.com/college/south-ala ... ferPortal/

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:16 pm

I mean, look at this. This is amazing:

https://247sports.com/college/south-ala ... ferPortal/

Wow! We could use some of those dudes.

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:16 pm

I mean, look at this. This is amazing:

https://247sports.com/college/south-ala ... ferPortal/

Potentially the best one isn’t even listed in that list as the VMI transfer.

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:04 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:51 pm

Someone want to tell me why Richie Riley is an exciting possibility?
He's coached 5 years of D1 ball.
He's got a record under .600
He's never taken a D1 team to any postseason tournament.

Seems that USU has a program that could do a lot better than that kind of resume. What am I missing?

1. He took over South Alabam & Nicholls state teams that were very bad and turned them around. Nicholls state he turned away incredibly quick & they were one of the worst teams in D1.

2. He's already established himself as a great recruiter and is getting a lot of hype with his ability to recruit. He has a ton of energy too, similar to Smith.

3. He's a very young coach who's getting head coaching jobs young. He's still learning and progressing in the position.

4. One of the wisest posters one this board once said this:

brownjeans wrote: ↑

March 31st, 2021, 8:13 pm

Notatrueaggie wrote: ↑

March 31st, 2021, 7:52 pm

Does anyone think that we’d have better luck coaching if we had a more diverse coaching staff or even a black head coach? I think it would bring recruiting way up for usu

The coach has to be good, not just black. But there are a lot of good black coaches out there. All things equal, I would love to see a good black coach at USU.
People tend to subconsciously hire people like themselves. It takes a diverse hiring team to question whether we are drawn to or away from a candidate due to our natural biases. I don't know that we are doing that.

LOL seems I'm arguing with myself a bit.
Well, if he's the one, I hope USU and the Spectrum help him get his energy and recruiting to the postseason.

If it does turn out to be Riley it’d probably be fine but he’s clearly someone who is eager for the next step up. The higher success, the faster he’s gone

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:16 pm

I mean, look at this. This is amazing:

https://247sports.com/college/south-ala ... ferPortal/

Holy crap. I'm not sure I could name 4-5 high major guys that have transferred to USU in the last 2 decades, let alone one year. Marco, Jarred Shaw, Brayden Bell...?

Are we sure he wants to move with that much firepower coming in or is this a negotiation tactic? One or two really strong years at South Alabama and an SEC team will have a Brinks truck parked outside his door.

apo wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 10:00 pm

If it does turn out to be Riley it’d probably be fine but he’s clearly someone who is eager for the next step up. The higher success, the faster he’s gone

I wish our next coach the best of success and when he leaves, I wish our next coach the same.

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:26 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:04 pm

brownjeans wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 8:51 pm

Someone want to tell me why Richie Riley is an exciting possibility?
He's coached 5 years of D1 ball.
He's got a record under .600
He's never taken a D1 team to any postseason tournament.

Seems that USU has a program that could do a lot better than that kind of resume. What am I missing?

1. He took over South Alabam & Nicholls state teams that were very bad and turned them around. Nicholls state he turned away incredibly quick & they were one of the worst teams in D1.

2. He's already established himself as a great recruiter and is getting a lot of hype with his ability to recruit. He has a ton of energy too, similar to Smith.

3. He's a very young coach who's getting head coaching jobs young. He's still learning and progressing in the position.

4. One of the wisest posters one this board once said this:

brownjeans wrote: ↑

March 31st, 2021, 8:13 pm

Notatrueaggie wrote: ↑

March 31st, 2021, 7:52 pm

Does anyone think that we’d have better luck coaching if we had a more diverse coaching staff or even a black head coach? I think it would bring recruiting way up for usu

The coach has to be good, not just black. But there are a lot of good black coaches out there. All things equal, I would love to see a good black coach at USU.
People tend to subconsciously hire people like themselves. It takes a diverse hiring team to question whether we are drawn to or away from a candidate due to our natural biases. I don't know that we are doing that.

LOL seems I'm arguing with myself a bit.
Well, if he's the one, I hope USU and the Spectrum help him get his energy and recruiting to the postseason.

I’m sure the number of people on this board that have watched him coach and know his x and o skills are few. So I think your argument is valid. However I’m confident hartwell will do very well at figuring that out and if this ends up being the guy I know he can recruit and hope hartwell know he can coach.

Bluened wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:14 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote:

Bluened wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:07 pm

How many NCAA tournaments did Smith make it to with South Dakota before we hired him? Riley should have more to work with at Utah State than he did with Nichols st. Or South Alabama. Not a name we were hearing but could be a diamond in the rough.

Smith made it to 0 and won 0 Summit league championships at South Dakota.

Roy McAvoy wrote:

Bluened wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 9:07 pm

How many NCAA tournaments did Smith make it to with South Dakota before we hired him? Riley should have more to work with at Utah State than he did with Nichols st. Or South Alabama. Not a name we were hearing but could be a diamond in the rough.

Smith made it to 0 and won 0 Summit league championships at South Dakota.

Exactly. I think Riley could come in and have the same type of success...if hired. Then again, if he does he may be gone in 3 years as well.


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We are who we are which is a stepping stone program. But if we continue to hire well then our success can still be consistent from coach to coach. It would be nice if we had a Mark few type coach that just loves Logan and wants to stay even over power 5 interests, but the vast majority time that doesn't happen. So let's just hire well and have continued success.

2004AG wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 4:44 pm

ineptimusprime wrote:

Hmmmm

Hmmmmm, Plan A has fallen through


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I don't necessarily see this as a bad gif. It could just as likely be someone they just didn't expect...good or bad.

If the new coach is able to land a P5 job in a couple years, that means he had huge success here, just like Craig Smith, and I would be completely fine with that. People need to realize that Utah State isn’t going to be a job where coaches stay forever. Stew was amazing, but i don’t see someone like him coming around again anytime soon.

TrueBlueAggie123 wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 10:15 pm

If the new coach is able to land a P5 job in a couple years, that means he had huge success here, just like Craig Smith, and I would be completely fine with that. People need to realize that Utah State isn’t going to be a job where coaches stay forever. Stew was amazing, but i don’t see someone like him coming around again anytime soon.

Yep. 99% of coaches are going to leave if they get P5 offers. Stew was a rarebird who saw in Logan exactly what he wanted out of his career. Most coaches aren't like that and will want more money and to coach in a bigger conference. Worrying about whether this coach or that coach will leave is mostly a waste of time. You just got to assume they'll all leave if they win and that will be a better option than wanting them fired for not winning.

SLB wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 6:50 pm

Real Life Aggie wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 5:30 pm

aggies22 wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 7:59 am

Donman wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 7:57 am

aggies22 wrote:

JonnyCienPesos wrote: ↑

April 4th, 2021, 7:25 am

NewUSUfan wrote:I'm hearing Tuesday is the big day for the announcement. Fingers crossed.

And it could very well be someone that nobody has mentioned.


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This is fact as well. There is someone still VERY much in the hunt that has not been mentioned in 21 pages of this thread.

Is it someone we would like?

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I think most of you would. You can't please everyone all of the time. But I'm pumped about it.

Super excited for Coach Jalen Moore.

And Sean Harris as the assistant

Help them with their game, on and off the court.

My guess is that it is Miller because of the Sun Belt connection, but I would prefer Odom.

Gonna be awkward when we have to counsel out like 5 guys to get all these transfers in...

SLB wrote: ↑

April 5th, 2021, 1:11 am

My guess is that it is Miller because of the Sun Belt connection, but I would prefer Odom.

What do you like about Odom?

slcagg wrote: ↑

April 5th, 2021, 6:13 am

SLB wrote: ↑

April 5th, 2021, 1:11 am

My guess is that it is Miller because of the Sun Belt connection, but I would prefer Odom.

What do you like about Odom?

Well he did beat Virginia, something we have never been able to do.