My takeaway about the other teams in Utah.
Utah look like that they may very well have their worst season that they have had in a long time. It is possible that they are a 1-win team this year.
BYU's first true road game is against us.
Keep in mind, San Diego State and BYU both played Arizona. San Diego State won by a margin of 24 and were up 35-7 at the half while BYU won by a margin of 8.

I only watched the last few minutes of the first half, and based on the coaching decisions I saw there, I would agree with you.

swordsman1989 wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 7:07 am

I only watched the last few minutes of the first half, and based on the coaching decisions I saw there, I would agree with you.

The numbers don't lie. San Diego State is the next opponent for Utah. It is great for the MWC and ugly for Utah. Utes looked really bad in those BYU-Utah game highlights.

It’s a good thing Utah big-timed Utah State so they could schedule H-H deals with half the mountain west.

I will never hope BYU wins, but I definitely wanted Utah to lose last night.

BYU o line is probably the best we will face all year. They played really well against a very good Ute defense. Gave up 0 sacks and rushed for 230 yards. Hall also is a home run threat with his feet. That’s gonna be a really tough test for our defense.

On the flip side the Utes had a 7.7 ypc. Hopefully we can figure out a way to be successful against their d.

Utahs defense line didn't even attempt to get penetration. They would get a good push and then stop and just read Hall. Seemed to me that the dline didn't trust their backers if they flushed him out.

Based on this game I would say we have a better dline then utah. Which is very surprising. bYU defense doesn't scare me at all. I think the strongest aspect is BYU passing game.

Unless our defense of backfield improves this will be a close game. I still think we win. But if we figure out our backend then both bYU and BSU are going to lose in the Maverick

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Bybs25 wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 8:40 am

Utahs defense line didn't even attempt to get penetration. They would get a good push and then stop and just read Hall. Seemed to me that the dline didn't trust their backers if they flushed him out.

Based on this game I would say we have a better dline then utah. Which is very surprising. bYU defense doesn't scare me at all. I think the strongest aspect is BYU passing game.

Unless our defense of backfield improves this will be a close game. I still think we win. But if we figure out our backend then both bYU and BSU are going to lose in the Maverick

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I love your optimism but I don’t think there’s any chance our Dline is better than Utah’s. Just my opinion after a couple weeks of football.

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:08 am

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

There's a chance but we'll need the turnovers in our favor and good special teams play.

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:12 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:08 am

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

There's a chance but we'll need the turnovers in our favor and good special teams play.

And execution in the red zone.

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:08 am

Bybs25 wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 8:40 am

Utahs defense line didn't even attempt to get penetration. They would get a good push and then stop and just read Hall. Seemed to me that the dline didn't trust their backers if they flushed him out.

Based on this game I would say we have a better dline then utah. Which is very surprising. bYU defense doesn't scare me at all. I think the strongest aspect is BYU passing game.

Unless our defense of backfield improves this will be a close game. I still think we win. But if we figure out our backend then both bYU and BSU are going to lose in the Maverick

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I love your optimism but I don’t think there’s any chance our Dline is better than Utah’s. Just my opinion after a couple weeks of football.

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

I can’t speak to Utah’s D-line, but ours has been pretty solid. And the linebacker play with rice and co. has been amazing. I’ve been pretty impressed with our front 7. We’ve had some coverage issues, but they tightened up after the first quarter on Friday.

Elkaggie wrote:

Bybs25 wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 8:40 am

Utahs defense line didn't even attempt to get penetration. They would get a good push and then stop and just read Hall. Seemed to me that the dline didn't trust their backers if they flushed him out.

Based on this game I would say we have a better dline then utah. Which is very surprising. bYU defense doesn't scare me at all. I think the strongest aspect is BYU passing game.

Unless our defense of backfield improves this will be a close game. I still think we win. But if we figure out our backend then both bYU and BSU are going to lose in the Maverick

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I love your optimism but I don’t think there’s any chance our Dline is better than Utah’s. Just my opinion after a couple weeks of football.

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

Well I can argue that. The better dline is one that puts pressure on quarterbacks. Maybe they are better on paper but they showed a lack luster effort last night. The good thing we have going for us is we have 4 starting DE with amazing speed that can contain QB. Once again us beating them will come down to our secondary. Getting Bond back will be great but can our corners come up on shorter passes and actually challenge the pass and not just let them catch it and make the tackle. That is what will decide how well BYU can move the ball and score points on us.

In regards to Boise. I've watched their games. Here is where the matchup will be. I believe our offense is better than their defense and will be able to score points. Like stated above it will come down to our secondary. Unlike BYU that has a couple of threats on their WR. BSU has one in shakil. Will we probably play a man cov and safety over the top of him. Yep he is that good. Outside of him BSU doesn't have any above the top threats. So it will come down to our secondary plays.



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I do like our chances against BYU. We just need to put pressure on Hall and contain him. We do need to call on all Aggie fans to buy tickets so this does not turn in to another home game for the Y. Start recruiting.

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:12 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:08 am

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

There's a chance but we'll need the turnovers in our favor and good special teams play.

Bonner needs to stop starring down his receivers!

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:12 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:08 am

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

There's a chance but we'll need the turnovers in our favor and good special teams play.

Bonner needs to stop starring down his receivers!

Truth.

Utah has looked pretty bad both games and they still could run on BYU. Utah is a 5 win team this year. BYU is 7 or 8. I’m thinking BYU and Boise will be favored by 4 or 5 against us.

sneed wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 11:09 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:12 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:08 am

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

There's a chance but we'll need the turnovers in our favor and good special teams play.

Bonner needs to stop starring down his receivers!

Truth.

Utah has looked pretty bad both games and they still could run on BYU. Utah is a 5 win team this year. BYU is 7 or 8. I’m thinking BYU and Boise will be favored by 4 or 5 against us.

If Airforce is favored by 11 there is no way BYU and Boise will be favored by less. Unfortunately I think we lose both of those games by big margins. BYU’s offense looked pretty good and I’m not so sure we will be able to move the ball that well against Boise.

Slim80 wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 1:51 pm

sneed wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 11:09 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:12 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:08 am

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

There's a chance but we'll need the turnovers in our favor and good special teams play.

Bonner needs to stop starring down his receivers!

Truth.

Utah has looked pretty bad both games and they still could run on BYU. Utah is a 5 win team this year. BYU is 7 or 8. I’m thinking BYU and Boise will be favored by 4 or 5 against us.

If Airforce is favored by 11 there is no way BYU and Boise will be favored by less. Unfortunately I think we lose both of those games by big margins. BYU’s offense looked pretty good and I’m not so sure we will be able to move the ball that well against Boise.

YBU offense has looked average at best. They are currently ranked 81st in total offense. Arizona is horrible, SDSU rolled 458 yards on them. YBU 368. Going off of two games, I really like the Aggies chances vs the Cougies. Let’s pack the Mav and give’em hell.

Yes, I think some of you are over reacting to BYU's win.

I think Utah is dreadful this year, but we'll see how that plays out.

For the first time in my lifetime, USU has won the line of scrimmage in our first 2 games.
Let's see what happens against the cadets.

I would wager money that we'll end up beating either BYU or Boise when it is all said and done.

My take - we have not played a team yet that is as good as Utah, BYU, AFA or Boise so it is hard to judge how good we are. Very glad we are 2-0 but over the next 3 weeks the schedule gets real.

Slim80 wrote:

sneed wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 11:09 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:12 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:08 am

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

There's a chance but we'll need the turnovers in our favor and good special teams play.

Bonner needs to stop starring down his receivers!

Truth.

Utah has looked pretty bad both games and they still could run on BYU. Utah is a 5 win team this year. BYU is 7 or 8. I’m thinking BYU and Boise will be favored by 4 or 5 against us.

If Airforce is favored by 11 there is no way BYU and Boise will be favored by less. Unfortunately I think we lose both of those games by big margins. BYU’s offense looked pretty good and I’m not so sure we will be able to move the ball that well against Boise.

It’s moved to 9.5 which is still dumb (ESPN power index even has us winning) but we will be better guessers when the BYU and Boise games are played so the spread will be closer. 2-0 ATS but it doesn’t look like anyone is buying the Aggies being good yet…

BYU has really solid line play on both sides of the ball. The Aggies will need to have a spy on Hall to watch his scrambling abilities, he gained several first downs by Utah getting so far up field on broken plays and then rolling to the out side. Not sure how good Utah is. This might be one of the Whit's worst teams in the last several years. Be interesting to see how they play against SDSU this week who completely manhandled UofA after a lackluster performance against NMSU. it was very evident that BYU was the more aggressive team. They flat out wanted it more than Utah. Things change so quickly from week to week. Stanford was horrendous on offense against K-State and then against USC they had a field day.

I do worry about our D-line with their O-line, but we shall see.

You guys are crazy. It’s idiotic to think Utah may only win 1 game this year.

BYU is also really really good & will be easily the best team we play this year.

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 6:06 pm

You guys are crazy. It’s idiotic to think Utah may only win 1 game this year.

BYU is also really really good & will be easily the best team we play this year.

Ehhh… I want to see more of Boise and BYU before giving BYU the nod.

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 6:06 pm

You guys are crazy. It’s idiotic to think Utah may only win 1 game this year.

BYU is also really really good & will be easily the best team we play this year.

Fresno will be the best team we play this year when we get them in the MWCG

gomretat wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 3:08 pm

My take - we have not played a team yet that is as good as Utah, BYU, AFA or Boise so it is hard to judge how good we are. Very glad we are 2-0 but over the next 3 weeks the schedule gets real.

I think both teams we’ve played so far are better than AFA. But I accept and agree with your point on the others.

Let’s see how this ages…

Does BYU have an incredible pass protection or is Utah that bad at pass rushing? Certainly Hall has wheels but the Ute dline couldn’t break free from BYUs pass rush.

I think there is some elements of both. Not only is Utah probably not as good as you’d expect, BYU has some big bubbas up front that were able to stay engaged with their men.

Allgeier looked excellent running inside. He was not so great on the outside. The Nacuas and Romney certainly have talent too.

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 6:06 pm

You guys are crazy. It’s idiotic to think Utah may only win 1 game this year.

BYU is also really really good & will be easily the best team we play this year.

Yeah I hate to say it, but byu was impressive in the trenches last night. Utah's supposedly great D-line barely provided any penetration all night. They are probably a 9-3,10-2 type team this year.

As for Utah, they are overrated and won't be a real contender in the Pac 12, but yeah it is silly to say they will only win one game.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 6:29 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 6:06 pm

You guys are crazy. It’s idiotic to think Utah may only win 1 game this year.

BYU is also really really good & will be easily the best team we play this year.

Yeah I hate to say it, but byu was impressive in the trenches last night. Utah's supposedly great D-line barely provided any penetration all night. They are probably a 9-3,10-2 type team this year.

As for Utah, they are overrated and won't be a real contender in the Pac 12, but yeah it is silly to say they will only win one game.

And I hate to say it but their receivers along with their te’s are pretty talented. The nacua brothers were big additions for them.

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 10:12 am

AggieFBObsession wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:12 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 9:08 am

I also don’t think there’s a snowball chance to beat either Boise or Byu. I hope I’m wrong but I’m just being realistic.

There's a chance but we'll need the turnovers in our favor and good special teams play.

Bonner needs to stop starring down his receivers!

I disagree that he is

GeoAg wrote: ↑

September 13th, 2021, 12:04 am

OrangeCountyAggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 10:12 am

Bonner needs to stop starring down his receivers!

I disagree that he is

@GeoAg I've seen it several times also, particularly with Thompkins. That may have worked in the first couple of games but defenses will be ready in the future and pick up on it, especially the better, more experienced defenses in the MWC.

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 8:25 am

BYU o line is probably the best we will face all year. They played really well against a very good Ute defense. Gave up 0 sacks and rushed for 230 yards. Hall also is a home run threat with his feet. That’s gonna be a really tough test for our defense.

On the flip side the Utes had a 7.7 ypc. Hopefully we can figure out a way to be successful against their d.

And features two guys that were once Aggies.

slcagg wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 8:01 pm

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 6:29 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 6:06 pm

You guys are crazy. It’s idiotic to think Utah may only win 1 game this year.

BYU is also really really good & will be easily the best team we play this year.

Yeah I hate to say it, but byu was impressive in the trenches last night. Utah's supposedly great D-line barely provided any penetration all night. They are probably a 9-3,10-2 type team this year.

As for Utah, they are overrated and won't be a real contender in the Pac 12, but yeah it is silly to say they will only win one game.

And I hate to say it but their receivers along with their te’s are pretty talented. The nacua brothers were big additions for them.

Thank their Dad and his love of byu football.

aggies22 wrote: ↑

September 13th, 2021, 6:10 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 8:25 am

BYU o line is probably the best we will face all year. They played really well against a very good Ute defense. Gave up 0 sacks and rushed for 230 yards. Hall also is a home run threat with his feet. That’s gonna be a really tough test for our defense.

On the flip side the Utes had a 7.7 ypc. Hopefully we can figure out a way to be successful against their d.

And features two guys that were once Aggies.

They have several former commits and players playing quite a bit. Can’t wait to have them match up Robinson against our slots

slcagg wrote: ↑

September 13th, 2021, 7:32 am

aggies22 wrote: ↑

September 13th, 2021, 6:10 am

Elkaggie wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 8:25 am

BYU o line is probably the best we will face all year. They played really well against a very good Ute defense. Gave up 0 sacks and rushed for 230 yards. Hall also is a home run threat with his feet. That’s gonna be a really tough test for our defense.

On the flip side the Utes had a 7.7 ypc. Hopefully we can figure out a way to be successful against their d.

And features two guys that were once Aggies.

They have several former commits and players playing quite a bit. Can’t wait to have them match up Robinson against our slots

I have made no secret about my desire to have Deven Thompkins thrown to at least 20 times in that game with the Robinson/Christensen matchup.

Aggie formerly in Hawaii wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 6:29 pm

Roy McAvoy wrote: ↑

September 12th, 2021, 6:06 pm

You guys are crazy. It’s idiotic to think Utah may only win 1 game this year.

BYU is also really really good & will be easily the best team we play this year.

Yeah I hate to say it, but byu was impressive in the trenches last night. Utah's supposedly great D-line barely provided any penetration all night. They are probably a 9-3,10-2 type team this year.

As for Utah, they are overrated and won't be a real contender in the Pac 12, but yeah it is silly to say they will only win one game.

Agreed. The Cougs are looking good which is very painful and the Utes will still go bowling.

The best part about this game was the absolute silence about it from a national stand point. Not having it played on an isolated night and having the big ranked match ups really helped make this game disappear. Unless you live in Utah, no one was talking before or since about this game at all.