#24 In the Coaches Poll

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#24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by NowhereLandAggie » January 11th, 2022, 12:14 pm

No SDSU, first team out.

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/p ... ches-poll/

Utah #12, BYU #22
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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by ViAggie » January 11th, 2022, 12:26 pm

Interesting, rare to be the same ranking in two polls that far down. We'll take it!


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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by Hoot » January 11th, 2022, 12:28 pm

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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by NowhereLandAggie » January 11th, 2022, 12:51 pm

I can't find a vote breakdown yet, but these are voters on it of interest that have a closer connection to USU. Curious to see how they all voted.

Blake Anderson, Utah State; Craig Bohl, Wyoming; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Danny Gonzales, New Mexico; Todd Graham, Hawaii; Bryan Harsin, Auburn; Brady Hoke, San Diego State; Jonathan Smith, Oregon State; Kyle Whittingham, Utah.



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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by OrangeCountyAggie » January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm

How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?



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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by Aglicious » January 11th, 2022, 1:06 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm
How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?
Their bloated ranking previous to the bowl saved them. They should have been more like 19-21 previous to the bowls and should have fallen out with their loss.
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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by coolag » January 11th, 2022, 1:07 pm

OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm
How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?
Or maybe ask, how in the hell did we lose to them?
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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by YoungBloodAggie » January 11th, 2022, 1:08 pm

coolag wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:07 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm
How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?
Or maybe ask, how in the hell did we lose to them?
Tyler Allgeier singlehandedly killed us.
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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by Yossarian » January 11th, 2022, 1:19 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:08 pm
coolag wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:07 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm
How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?
Or maybe ask, how in the hell did we lose to them?
Tyler Allgeier singlehandedly killed us.
And they will replace him with not one, but two, big power backs that we can't tackle for next year.


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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by coolag » January 11th, 2022, 1:20 pm

Yossarian wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:19 pm
YoungBloodAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:08 pm
coolag wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:07 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm
How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?
Or maybe ask, how in the hell did we lose to them?
Tyler Allgeier singlehandedly killed us.
And they will replace him with not one, but two, big power backs that we can't tackle for next year.
Black Jerseys will be the bigger obstacle to overcome.
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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by YoungBloodAggie » January 11th, 2022, 1:21 pm

Yossarian wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:19 pm
YoungBloodAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:08 pm
coolag wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:07 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm
How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?
Or maybe ask, how in the hell did we lose to them?
Tyler Allgeier singlehandedly killed us.
And they will replace him with not one, but two, big power backs that we can't tackle for next year.
I am not as worried about the guys they are bringing in, mostly because Allgeier was unbelievably quick for his size. If they want to try to nickel and dime us down the field with big strong RBs, we've won despite that before. Allgeier could grind it out or break off huge runs. BYU is going to be quite tough next year again, but I think we will be better as well.


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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by Yossarian » January 11th, 2022, 1:21 pm

coolag wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:20 pm
Yossarian wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:19 pm
YoungBloodAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:08 pm
coolag wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:07 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm
How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?
Or maybe ask, how in the hell did we lose to them?
Tyler Allgeier singlehandedly killed us.
And they will replace him with not one, but two, big power backs that we can't tackle for next year.
Black Jerseys will be the bigger obstacle to overcome.
If I ever see the Aggies in black jerseys again, ...........
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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by Yossarian » January 11th, 2022, 1:24 pm

YoungBloodAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:21 pm
Yossarian wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:19 pm
YoungBloodAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:08 pm
coolag wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:07 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm
How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?
Or maybe ask, how in the hell did we lose to them?
Tyler Allgeier singlehandedly killed us.
And they will replace him with not one, but two, big power backs that we can't tackle for next year.
I am not as worried about the guys they are bringing in, mostly because Allgeier was unbelievably quick for his size. If they want to try to nickel and dime us down the field with big strong RBs, we've won despite that before. Allgeier could grind it out or break off huge runs. BYU is going to be quite tough next year again, but I think we will be better as well.
I don't know that they are run-of-the-mill power backs. One a transfer from Cal (their leading rusher in 2 of the last 3 years) and the other a transfer from Stanford. They will be more than plodding type backs.


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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by NavyBlueAggie » January 11th, 2022, 1:40 pm

Fair comments about what the school in Provo could have for running backs next season. Over many years that school has enjoyed large running backs and very big linebackers. Just hard to evaluate next season from the projected players vs. the established players. that school should be tough next year, and we should be much better with more size in the trenches.

I seem to recall that "speed kills" on a football field. We will know next season.

On another note, I believe the 2021 team improved as the season went along, the Wyoming game excepted. We actually had the team talent to over achieve in 2021, and our players bought into a winning mentality.



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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by GeoAg » January 11th, 2022, 1:52 pm

NavyBlueAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:40 pm
Fair comments about what the school in Provo could have for running backs next season. Over many years that school has enjoyed large running backs and very big linebackers. Just hard to evaluate next season from the projected players vs. the established players. that school should be tough next year, and we should be much better with more size in the trenches.

I seem to recall that "speed kills" on a football field. We will know next season.

On another note, I believe the 2021 team improved as the season went along, the Wyoming game excepted. We actually had the team talent to over achieve in 2021, and our players bought into a winning mentality.
If we apply the lessons learned from the Wyo game next year the way we applied them against the Aztecs and the Beavers at tend of this year, we'll have a very good shot at beating the one true team.
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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by ViAggie » January 11th, 2022, 1:59 pm

Yossarian wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:19 pm
YoungBloodAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:08 pm
coolag wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:07 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm
How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?
Or maybe ask, how in the hell did we lose to them?
Tyler Allgeier singlehandedly killed us.
And they will replace him with not one, but two, big power backs that we can't tackle for next year.
We hadn't quite figured out how to use our speed yet, it took us losing to Wyoming and having an existential reckoning and coming to the realization that we weren't going to be able to win every game just by having a shoot out.


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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by Yossarian » January 11th, 2022, 2:04 pm

ViAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:59 pm
Yossarian wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:19 pm
YoungBloodAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:08 pm
coolag wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 1:07 pm
OrangeCountyAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:56 pm
How is byu still ranked after their pathetic bowl game?
Or maybe ask, how in the hell did we lose to them?
Tyler Allgeier singlehandedly killed us.
And they will replace him with not one, but two, big power backs that we can't tackle for next year.
We hadn't quite figured out how to use our speed yet, it took us losing to Wyoming and having an existential reckoning and coming to the realization that we weren't going to be able to win every game just by having a shoot out.
It seems like it took half the year for something to click on the defense. Either;

A) The players finally started to buy into Banda's system and get themselves into the right position to defend the way he wanted to; or

B) Banda finally dialed in a system that would work for the personnel that he had. He started using their smaller size and speed as a strength, rather than trying to defend straight up against larger lines.

I'm thinking it was more "B". The way the defense played in the second half of the season was much different than the first. Except for the Wyoming game. I cannot wrap my mind around what happened in that game.


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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by ProvoAggie » January 11th, 2022, 3:45 pm

NowhereLandAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:51 pm
I can't find a vote breakdown yet, but these are voters on it of interest that have a closer connection to USU. Curious to see how they all voted.

Blake Anderson, Utah State; Craig Bohl, Wyoming; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Danny Gonzales, New Mexico; Todd Graham, Hawaii; Bryan Harsin, Auburn; Brady Hoke, San Diego State; Jonathan Smith, Oregon State; Kyle Whittingham, Utah.
The coaches ballots are rarely released.
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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by Yossarian » January 12th, 2022, 9:13 pm

The interesting thing:

The state of Utah has more teams ranked in the final poll than the states of Texas and Florida...... combined.
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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by LKGates » January 13th, 2022, 1:35 am

ProvoAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 3:45 pm
NowhereLandAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:51 pm
I can't find a vote breakdown yet, but these are voters on it of interest that have a closer connection to USU. Curious to see how they all voted.

Blake Anderson, Utah State; Craig Bohl, Wyoming; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Danny Gonzales, New Mexico; Todd Graham, Hawaii; Bryan Harsin, Auburn; Brady Hoke, San Diego State; Jonathan Smith, Oregon State; Kyle Whittingham, Utah.
The coaches ballots are rarely released.
I saw a link to the coaches' ballots, but I can't remember where I found it. I did jot down some of the ballots of interest:
Blake Anderson: Utah 11, BYU 22, USU 24, SDSU 25
Bohl: Utah 11, USU 12, SDSU 16, AFA 19
Calhoun: Utah 14, SDSU 19, USU 20, AFA 21
Gonzalez: Utah 8, USU 13, AFA 17, SDSU 21, Fresno 25, BYU NR
Graham: Utah 11, USU 23, SDSU 24, BYU 25
Harsin: Utah 12, BYU 19, SDSU 24, USU NR
Hoke: Utah 11, USU 17, SDSU 18, AFA 22, BYU 25
Whittingham: Utah 9, USU 19, BYU 20, SDSU 21

Harsin, what a tool.
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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by NowhereLandAggie » January 13th, 2022, 11:25 am

LKGates wrote:
January 13th, 2022, 1:35 am
ProvoAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 3:45 pm
NowhereLandAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:51 pm
I can't find a vote breakdown yet, but these are voters on it of interest that have a closer connection to USU. Curious to see how they all voted.

Blake Anderson, Utah State; Craig Bohl, Wyoming; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Danny Gonzales, New Mexico; Todd Graham, Hawaii; Bryan Harsin, Auburn; Brady Hoke, San Diego State; Jonathan Smith, Oregon State; Kyle Whittingham, Utah.
The coaches ballots are rarely released.
I saw a link to the coaches' ballots, but I can't remember where I found it. I did jot down some of the ballots of interest:
Blake Anderson: Utah 11, BYU 22, USU 24, SDSU 25
Bohl: Utah 11, USU 12, SDSU 16, AFA 19
Calhoun: Utah 14, SDSU 19, USU 20, AFA 21
Gonzalez: Utah 8, USU 13, AFA 17, SDSU 21, Fresno 25, BYU NR
Graham: Utah 11, USU 23, SDSU 24, BYU 25
Harsin: Utah 12, BYU 19, SDSU 24, USU NR
Hoke: Utah 11, USU 17, SDSU 18, AFA 22, BYU 25
Whittingham: Utah 9, USU 19, BYU 20, SDSU 21

Harsin, what a tool.
It is right here, I don't have a subscription, and I won't buy one just for this.

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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by 3rdGenAggie » January 13th, 2022, 11:56 am

Yossarian wrote:
January 12th, 2022, 9:13 pm
The interesting thing:

The state of Utah has more teams ranked in the final poll than the states of Texas and Florida...... combined.
Same number as Texas, Florida, and California combined.


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Re: #24 In the Coaches Poll

Post by Elkaggie » January 13th, 2022, 12:01 pm

LKGates wrote:
January 13th, 2022, 1:35 am
ProvoAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 3:45 pm
NowhereLandAggie wrote:
January 11th, 2022, 12:51 pm
I can't find a vote breakdown yet, but these are voters on it of interest that have a closer connection to USU. Curious to see how they all voted.

Blake Anderson, Utah State; Craig Bohl, Wyoming; Troy Calhoun, Air Force; Danny Gonzales, New Mexico; Todd Graham, Hawaii; Bryan Harsin, Auburn; Brady Hoke, San Diego State; Jonathan Smith, Oregon State; Kyle Whittingham, Utah.
The coaches ballots are rarely released.
I saw a link to the coaches' ballots, but I can't remember where I found it. I did jot down some of the ballots of interest:
Blake Anderson: Utah 11, BYU 22, USU 24, SDSU 25
Bohl: Utah 11, USU 12, SDSU 16, AFA 19
Calhoun: Utah 14, SDSU 19, USU 20, AFA 21
Gonzalez: Utah 8, USU 13, AFA 17, SDSU 21, Fresno 25, BYU NR
Graham: Utah 11, USU 23, SDSU 24, BYU 25
Harsin: Utah 12, BYU 19, SDSU 24, USU NR
Hoke: Utah 11, USU 17, SDSU 18, AFA 22, BYU 25
Whittingham: Utah 9, USU 19, BYU 20, SDSU 21

Harsin, what a tool.
This is awesome. I love that Whit ranked us higher than byu.



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